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Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html0 -
Outlier of the year! (so far!)TheScreamingEagles said:The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?
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Not so good for you but basically a voodoo poll of you and your elderly family.fitalass said:No, my opinion is based on the fact that I used to be a nurse, and also the reality of having three elderly relatives who had suffered from very poor care while they were in hospital in various parts of Scotland in recent years. Add to that my own personal experience over the last few months due to a health scare, and I have some very genuine concerns.
malcolmg said:
LOL, surprise surprise a Tory thinks they could sell of the NHS and it would be better. I am sure it is the SNP that do the shift rotas on the NHS. Not too bright methinks or just blinded by hatred of SNP.fitalass said:I genuinely believe that anyone other than the SNP could do a better job of getting their priorities right when it comes to running the Scottish NHS right now. For start, I would get rid of the new shift hours that nursing staff now work. What the hell were people thinking when they thought this was a good idea, certainly not maintaining a good continuity of care for the patients that is for sure.
JPJ2 said:fitalass:
"As a side note. I have been warning of the difficulties that the Scottish NHS was facing for the last few years on PB, it is under serious pressure right now"
While this is true, as it is everywhere in the UK, a recent poll showed the SNP are the most trusted party on the NHS in Scotland.
In spite of all the efforts of BBC Scotland, there is no plurality believing that SLAB or the Tories would do as well, never mind better.
Has there ever been a time when the NHS has not been "under pressure". I contend based on my voodoo poll that it is significantly better than if it was under Labour control, their only plan was to close A&E all over the place.0 -
Looking at the underlying data, that would seem a much fairer representation of the facts.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html
Ireland looks like a special case and a little odd. Who are all these Brits going to Ireland to claim benefits? Would I be right in my hunch that they usually come from northern Ireland?0 -
New English manners. Come to my party, but if you don't, beware.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-30876360
Party invoice: Boy sent bill for birthday no-show.
Is that how the hoi poloi behave in Cornwall?0 -
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/0 -
The only outliers this year are the ones with Labour leads.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Outlier of the year! (so far!)TheScreamingEagles said:The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?
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But ultimately the margin is only 1 in 19 people. And that 1 in 19 (at least) is waiting to see how we are really are better off together in the UK.CarlottaVance said:
Or that fewer than 2 in 5 Scots fell for the SNP's fantastical 'currency union with the UK, automatic EU membership land of milk and honey funded by $110/barrel oil'.......Carnyx said:
The other way to look at it is that only a minority of Scots actually voted for the most glorious Union in the last 300 years. Not exactly a resounding statement of approval. The rest voted against or cared so little about remaining in the UK that they didn't bother voting. And that was after a propaganda campaign of which we won't see the like till the Brexit campaign (and you lot will sure know it when it happens).Neil said:
But then 45% of people did turn out to vote for a something "just a bit more shit than the UK Government" last September so there's no accounting for taste.Theuniondivvie said:
True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.Neil said:
I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).Theuniondivvie said:
I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.Neil said:
Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?Theuniondivvie said:
The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).
'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.
- See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'
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The Survation poll has only 19.4% of the population wanting a Labour government. Which suggests that there's at least another 6% aren't just soft but postively there for the taking.SouthamObserver said:Maybe the best that can be said for Labour in Scotland right now is that it has reached rock bottom.
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I'm quite relaxed about Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister.bigjohnowls said:
I think May 7/8 will be more depressing for one of us TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Today is Blue Monday, the most depressing day of the yearSunil_Prasannan said:
You really need to have True Faith in TSE!antifrank said:
You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.Scrapheap_as_was said:James Blunt songs nighthawks please.
Brilliantly angry letter.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/19/blue-monday-most-depressing-day-year0 -
His music/lyrics are very interesting. Much scorn missing the point. Only saw it recently. I find his falsetto style odd but it's tragic in context. Well worth paying attention. IIRC he commanded 30k troops. No luvvies.
Epic war song http://open.spotify.com/track/0TtbdD068t7JBif88ruL83Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.
Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.
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That's mainly because we export old people who do not work, but do use many other public services, such as health. It's a big issue in Spain, for example.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html
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I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?0
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The video showed a fictitious band called The Killers - which inspired the real band called The Killers to take that name?isam said:My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
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isam said:
My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
You've done one for NO before...and my favourite ones on it were pieces 5.8.6TheScreamingEagles said:
Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.Scrapheap_as_was said:James Blunt songs nighthawks please.
Brilliantly angry letter.
Chukka and Bryant showing the Lab front bench utter lack of Substance and the latter is a Lowlife who'd be at home in a Republic.
But then what do you expect it's all power, corruption and lies to these people.
Let's call this Blunt's Revenge.
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You think more British immigrants use foreign health systems than vice versa?SouthamObserver said:
That's mainly because we export old people who do not work, but do use many other public services, such as health. It's a big issue in Spain, for example.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html0 -
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?0 -
A friend of mine and I watched him in a little open air concert one evening in Juan Les Pins.. beautiful!Plato said:His music/lyrics are very interesting. Much scorn missing the point. Only saw it recently. I find his falsetto style odd but it's tragic in context. Well worth paying attention.
Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.
Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.0 -
I agree - tho it was unfortunate to walk off, Murnaghan was out of order suggesting he 'come back in 30 minutes after you've read the letter.....'TCPoliticalBetting said:Felt a bit sorry for Chuka. Why should we expect our policians to have an instant response to everything?
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But not "supremely relaxed"?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm quite relaxed about Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister.bigjohnowls said:
I think May 7/8 will be more depressing for one of us TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Today is Blue Monday, the most depressing day of the yearSunil_Prasannan said:
You really need to have True Faith in TSE!antifrank said:
You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.Scrapheap_as_was said:James Blunt songs nighthawks please.
Brilliantly angry letter.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/19/blue-monday-most-depressing-day-year
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Careful isam - you'll get posters coming out with "Kipper praises the New Order - must be a closet Nazi" lines!isam said:My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
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TSE has got no more hair to pull out; or won't have by May 8th.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm quite relaxed about Ed Miliband becoming Prime Minister.bigjohnowls said:
I think May 7/8 will be more depressing for one of us TSETheScreamingEagles said:
Today is Blue Monday, the most depressing day of the yearSunil_Prasannan said:
You really need to have True Faith in TSE!antifrank said:
You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.TheScreamingEagles said:
Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.Scrapheap_as_was said:James Blunt songs nighthawks please.
Brilliantly angry letter.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/19/blue-monday-most-depressing-day-year
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TheScreamingEagles said:
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There's a Preview button for testing posts; you don't actually have to post it.
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I've a few services friends and he translates it so well. The sneering shows so much ignorance and class war. He's a very sharp guy and a warrior. It seems to unnerve his detractors.isam said:
A friend of mine and I watched him in a little open air concert one evening in Juan Les Pins.. beautiful!Plato said:His music/lyrics are very interesting. Much scorn missing the point. Only saw it recently. I find his falsetto style odd but it's tragic in context. Well worth paying attention.
Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.
Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.0 -
Many expats in Spain opt for private health cover which is much cheaper than in the UK - typically 80€ per month for full cover at age 55 with no increases for age. Service is excellent,SouthamObserver said:
That's mainly because we export old people who do not work, but do use many other public services, such as health. It's a big issue in Spain, for example.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html
and this is affordable for those of us on modest UK employment pensions, especially as everything else with the exception of electricity is typically 20% less than in the UK.0 -
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/0 -
Survation:malcolmg said:
Not so good for you but basically a voodoo poll of you and your elderly family.fitalass said:No, my opinion is based on the fact that I used to be a nurse, and also the reality of having three elderly relatives who had suffered from very poor care while they were in hospital in various parts of Scotland in recent years. Add to that my own personal experience over the last few months due to a health scare, and I have some very genuine concerns.
malcolmg said:
LOL, surprise surprise a Tory thinks they could sell of the NHS and it would be better. I am sure it is the SNP that do the shift rotas on the NHS. Not too bright methinks or just blinded by hatred of SNP.fitalass said:I genuinely believe that anyone other than the SNP could do a better job of getting their priorities right when it comes to running the Scottish NHS right now. For start, I would get rid of the new shift hours that nursing staff now work. What the hell were people thinking when they thought this was a good idea, certainly not maintaining a good continuity of care for the patients that is for sure.
JPJ2 said:fitalass:
"As a side note. I have been warning of the difficulties that the Scottish NHS was facing for the last few years on PB, it is under serious pressure right now"
While this is true, as it is everywhere in the UK, a recent poll showed the SNP are the most trusted party on the NHS in Scotland.
In spite of all the efforts of BBC Scotland, there is no plurality believing that SLAB or the Tories would do as well, never mind better.
Has there ever been a time when the NHS has not been "under pressure". I contend based on my voodoo poll that it is significantly better than if it was under Labour control, their only plan was to close A&E all over the place.
Since the SNP government came to power in 2007
NHS Scotland:
Quality of care has got:
Better: 22
Worse: 32 (splits SNP VI 19, all others 40%+)
About same: 30
Waiting time:
Better: 22
Worse: 33
About the same: 25
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I disagree - when called on to the box any half-way decent minister or shadow must expect to be asked to comment on issues of the day as well as the brief. The question was not hard. the bigger idiot of the day was the chap form the MCGB who clearly hadn't read Pickles letter before criticising it.CarlottaVance said:
I agree - tho it was unfortunate to walk off, Murnaghan was out of order suggesting he 'come back in 30 minutes after you've read the letter.....'TCPoliticalBetting said:Felt a bit sorry for Chuka. Why should we expect our policians to have an instant response to everything?
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While that's true, we currently aren't exporting enough people to hit Cameron's target on net migration, so clearly there are going to be fewer [recent] British emigrants abroad, than [recent] foreign immigrants in Britain.SouthamObserver said:
That's mainly because we export old people who do not work, but do use many other public services, such as health. It's a big issue in Spain, for example.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html
If you take a long view, back to the 17th century, say, the present period of net inward migration probably stands out as being very unusual. I would guess that for most of that time net migration has been outward from Britain to the rest of the world. Change tends to upset people.0 -
Bryant says he's replied to Blunt.
Where's that popcorn.0 -
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?0 -
Do you shop at a low-cost supermarket, read a red top or right-wing newspaper and have a pay as you go phone?
On average, you fit the profile of a UKIP voter for the General Election.
Can Your Supermarket Predict Your Politics?
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I know, I was trying to be clever with the wordpress app.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Test embed
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Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside.....
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The Kills are superb. Future Starts Slowopen.spotify.com/track/2res3Ptlahsu1kh5XtFhu4SlowSunil_Prasannan said:
The video showed a fictitious band called The Killers - which inspired the real band called The Killers to take that name?isam said:My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
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This picture of Ed Miliband, for a future threadbigjohnowls said:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/10/article-2186527-1479D494000005DC-280_634x798.jpg0 -
Just read James Blunt on Poshgate. Brilliant.0
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If the £ holds it's current rate at 1.30€ to the euro elderly Brits with savings/pension wealth can get lots of bargains in Spain at the moment and live a very comfortable life. The average Spanish wage is around €14000 a year in most of Spain - a typical expat retiree can easily command double that.OblitusSumMe said:
While that's true, we currently aren't exporting enough people to hit Cameron's target on net migration, so clearly there are going to be fewer [recent] British emigrants abroad, than [recent] foreign immigrants in Britain.SouthamObserver said:
That's mainly because we export old people who do not work, but do use many other public services, such as health. It's a big issue in Spain, for example.isam said:
Same facts.. different story...TheWatcher said:
According to the statistics there are still many more EU claimants in the UK, than UK claimants in the rest of the EU, though the phrase 'Unemployed Britons in richer EU states outnumber jobless from those countries in UK', is an interesting spin.Alistair said:Cahrt in this article is awesome
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
There are 2 Britons claiming unemployment benefit in Poland. One in Slovenia. And None in Lithuania or Romania
"More than twice as many European Union immigrants are claiming unemployment benefits in Britain than vice versa, new figures have revealed.
Almost 65,000 EU nationals are getting Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) in the UK compared to around 30,000 Britons claiming unemployment benefits elsewhere in the EU"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11355148/Twice-as-many-EU-immigrants-claiming-unemployment-benefits-in-UK-than-vice-versa-new-research-show.html
If you take a long view, back to the 17th century, say, the present period of net inward migration probably stands out as being very unusual. I would guess that for most of that time net migration has been outward from Britain to the rest of the world. Change tends to upset people.0 -
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.0 -
George Eaton on the Scottish polls:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/01/labour-starting-turn-tide-scotland0 -
Lol - but if they go out for a brisk stroll in this weather the figure falls dramatically!TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside.....0 -
I think James Blunt would make a fantastic Tory MP.
I'd love to hear his put downs in the Commons.0 -
Sweet Jesus!TheScreamingEagles said:
This picture of Ed Miliband, for a future threadbigjohnowls said:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/10/article-2186527-1479D494000005DC-280_634x798.jpg0 -
I was thinking about bringing back the smiling Daves (and smiling Eds) and working out which picture I should use for each one.Casino_Royale said:
Sweet Jesus!TheScreamingEagles said:
This picture of Ed Miliband, for a future threadbigjohnowls said:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/10/article-2186527-1479D494000005DC-280_634x798.jpg0 -
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.0 -
He's so well. Blunt.Casino_Royale said:
Just read James Blunt on Poshgate. Brilliant.
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A fair few billionaires in India (and China too IIRC)OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.0 -
Except in many cases, they're private organisations in receipt of vast sums of public money. How much are Oxfam taking out of the taxpayers purse?OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.0 -
Yes!Sunil_Prasannan said:
The video showed a fictitious band called The Killers - which inspired the real band called The Killers to take that name?isam said:My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
Have yourself an extra biscuit with your tea watching Portillo's Great British Railway Journeys tonight on me
The singer of the fictional band also inspired me to grow my hair long, although I couldn't have expected anyone to get that0 -
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board. 0 -
That can't be right. According to MaxPB, half of the global richest 1% are British.Sunil_Prasannan said:
A fair few billionaires in India (and China too IIRC)OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.0 -
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.0 -
Charities are not supposed to political at all, their agenda is clear for everyone to see.OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.
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If the Government decides it is a more efficient use of public money to hand it over to a private organisation in return for contracted services, rather than to use that money to employ public servants to deliver those services, then that is an entirely separate question to interfering in the ability of that organisation to participate in public debate.TheWatcher said:
Except in many cases, they're private organisations in receipt of vast sums of public money. How much are Oxfam taking out of the taxpayers purse?OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.
What are you trying to do - create a police state where no dissent is permitted?0 -
Chuckle. LOL.MikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.
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KIPPER MP count collapses!TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.0 -
Chuka and Labour trying to excuse his littly hissy fit..He should be able to handle questions like that0
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Yes, Oxfam have a very clear agenda in favour of helping the world's poorest people.MaxPB said:
Charities are not supposed to political at all, their agenda is clear for everyone to see.OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.0 -
Twitter comebacks aside, I do find his songs pretty horrid (those I've heard). The first time I listened to 'You're Beautiful' I literally predicted each linePlato said:His music/lyrics are very interesting. Much scorn missing the point. Only saw it recently. I find his falsetto style odd but it's tragic in context. Well worth paying attention. IIRC he commanded 30k troops. No luvvies.
Epic war song http://open.spotify.com/track/0TtbdD068t7JBif88ruL83Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.
Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.
him - 'I saw your face'
me -'in a crowded place'
him 'in a crowded place'
and so on through the entire song, that was how relentlessly cliched it was.0 -
Ah, that explains it! I read the FT and have a contract phone, but I do shop at Lidl and Aldi! Why pay unnecessarily pay more money? I suppose that explains a lot of my euroscepticism too!MarkHopkins said:
Do you shop at a low-cost supermarket, read a red top or right-wing newspaper and have a pay as you go phone?
On average, you fit the profile of a UKIP voter for the General Election.
Can Your Supermarket Predict Your Politics?0 -
Oxfam does great work. But the revolving door between its staff and the Labour party is apparently compromising its political neutrality:
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/18795/oxfam_criticised_by_charity_commission_after_accusations_of_political_bias_in_tweet0 -
All about for the four month meltdown.richardDodd said:Chuka and Labour trying to excuse his littly hissy fit..He should be able to handle questions like that
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That 508m figure includes children, retired people, part time employed and the unemployed. Whittle that figure down and adjust for the average wage how much closer does the figure look.OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.
It is just part of Oxfam and Labour's co-ordinated attack against the cost of living crap and their continued anti-wealth agenda.0 -
Oxfam started in 1942 as the Oxford Committee for Famine Relief. FAMINE RELIEF.TheWatcher said:
Except in many cases, they're private organisations in receipt of vast sums of public money. How much are Oxfam taking out of the taxpayers purse?OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.
In November 2000, Oxfam adopted:-
the right to a sustainable livelihood
the right to basic social services
the right to life and security
the right to be heard
the right to an identity
Basically a statist leftie lobbying unit for a large public sector...... Even "the right to life" does not mean they actually should be spending most of their money feeding people.
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Depends what you are comparing it to, compared to most of my "customers" they are dripping in cash.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/0 -
LOL James Blunt! Dude.
Interesting to me how many luvvies are becoming so very openly anti-Labour.0 -
No, they don't. They are now campaigning on zero-hours contracts and such, which is a nakedly political agenda aligned to the Labour party. They campaign in favour of social security and the welfarism, which is again, politically driven to increase the size of the state.OblitusSumMe said:
Yes, Oxfam have a very clear agenda in favour of helping the world's poorest people.MaxPB said:
Charities are not supposed to political at all, their agenda is clear for everyone to see.OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.0 -
How opinion polls under-estimated Tories and over-estimated Labour
http://blogs.channel4.com/michael-crick-on-politics/opinion-polls-underestimated-tories-overestimated-labour/47490 -
James Blunt.
LOL tremendous.0 -
Ed West @edwest
'Where are the Albert Finneys and the Glenda Jacksons?' Chris Bryant asks http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/16/arts-diversity-chris-bryant-eddie-redmayne … they both went to grammar schools0 -
Shatner has done an entire spokenb word album of cover versionsSunil_Prasannan said:
Had to Google to find out, but Bill Shatner does the voiceover for the "Bohemian Rhapsody" Thomson teddybear advert!Plato said:Big Bang relies on either being a geek or knowing them. Without that, it'd make little sense. Have you seen Boston Legal? William Shatner and James Spader are epic.
SeanT said:
My GF loves Big Bang but I just don't get it. Didn't raise a single chuckle in me. I agree about 24 tho, it loses pace by season 3 or 4, and flails beyond that. As indeed do most TV dramas. It is virtually a law of scriptwriting. And it is the reason very very few dramas go beyond 5 seasons.Plato said:Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.
CD13 said:Mr Eagles,
As you say, whatever threads you put up, the 'others' will suspect they're being short changed.
Many Labour people accuse the BBC of being rabidly right wing. We all have our biases, and despite what some people think, even scientists do.
That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.
Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).
It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.
As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMlGymb8jY0 -
I'm contract, subscribe to the Spectator (though it usually falls by the wayside in favour of PB.com), Tesco delivery.Socrates said:
Ah, that explains it! I read the FT and have a contract phone, but I do shop at Lidl and Aldi! Why pay unnecessarily pay more money? I suppose that explains a lot of my euroscepticism too!MarkHopkins said:
Do you shop at a low-cost supermarket, read a red top or right-wing newspaper and have a pay as you go phone?
On average, you fit the profile of a UKIP voter for the General Election.
Can Your Supermarket Predict Your Politics?0 -
Oxfam is a truly wonderful organisation.MaxPB said:
That 508m figure includes children, retired people, part time employed and the unemployed. Whittle that figure down and adjust for the average wage how much closer does the figure look.OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.
It is just part of Oxfam and Labour's co-ordinated attack against the cost of living crap and their continued anti-wealth agenda.
Far better than any right-wing organisation including the Tory party that you obviously subscribe to....0 -
So, when we get a poll, we need to add two to the Tory Score, and take two from the Labour score.
So last week's Ashcroft poll was a Tory lead of 10%0 -
No, look again at the post. I said that 102 seats was a number I heard repeated among kippers at the time.TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.0 -
I believe their charitable status gives them exemption form taxes like VAT. If they cannot sustain their political neutrality then those privileges should be withdrawn.OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.0 -
Indeed. That wasn't the question. You can do all that and be either party political or not, one is legal, the other isn't. I am making no judgement on the case under discussion, but it is fatuous to say in effect that because something is for a worthy cause it is necessarily legal for a charity to do it.OblitusSumMe said:
Yes, Oxfam have a very clear agenda in favour of helping the world's poorest people.MaxPB said:
Charities are not supposed to political at all, their agenda is clear for everyone to see.OblitusSumMe said:
I think your own politics is colouring your perception of Oxfams.MaxPB said:
It's not the chart, it's their political agenda that needs to be stripped away. The chart is just a symptom of the disease infecting the charity (and many others).OblitusSumMe said:
I'm all for enforcing stricter standards of Mathematics in public discourse, but don't you think that's a trifle harsh?MaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
What would you do to the Cabinet Ministers who have been reprimanded over their mis-use of statistics?
No way should the government be interfering with charities who decide to be vocal in public debate. They're private organisations and it's up to individuals to decide if they merit their support.Legal requirement: in the political arena, a charity must stress its independence and ensure that any involvement it has with political parties is balanced. A charity must not give support or funding to a political party, nor to a candidate or politician.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/speaking-out-guidance-on-campaigning-and-political-activity-by-charities-cc9/speaking-out-guidance-on-campaigning-and-political-activity-by-charities
A charity may give its support to specific policies advocated by political parties if it would help achieve its charitable purposes. However, trustees must not allow the charity to be used as a vehicle for the expression of the political views of any individual trustee or staff member (in this context we mean personal or party political views).0 -
Also, since I haven't seen you in a while. I would like to lord it over you for a while about foreign voters deserting the Labour party. As I have said continually over the last few years on PB and denied by yourself.murali_s said:
Oxfam is a truly wonderful organisation.MaxPB said:
That 508m figure includes children, retired people, part time employed and the unemployed. Whittle that figure down and adjust for the average wage how much closer does the figure look.OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.
It is just part of Oxfam and Labour's co-ordinated attack against the cost of living crap and their continued anti-wealth agenda.
Far better than any right-wing organisation including the Tory party that you obviously subscribe to....0 -
I fear you misheard, they were saying 1 or 2.MikeK said:
No, look again at the post. I said that 102 seats was a number I heard repeated among kippers at the time.TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.0 -
Looks like we've reached peak Kipper fantasist...0
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Yet arguably less posh\establishment than Chris Bryant.FalseFlag said:
Private school and then the Army, Household Cavalry no less, not exactly luvvy.Patrick said:LOL James Blunt! Dude.
Interesting to me how many luvvies are becoming so very openly anti-Labour.
Cheltenham, Oxford, CofE
The lovely thing about the prophets of diversity and privilege is the way they think it never applies to them.0 -
Chris Bryant replies bluntly...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/19/chris-bryant-letter-james-blunt-in-full0 -
LOL climbdown with added bluster.DaemonBarber said:Chris Bryant replies bluntly...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/19/chris-bryant-letter-james-blunt-in-full
Bryant really is a prize wazzock.0 -
I like that one @Scrapheap. :>)Scrapheap_as_was said:
I fear you misheard, they were saying 1 or 2.MikeK said:
No, look again at the post. I said that 102 seats was a number I heard repeated among kippers at the time.TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.0 -
The man is an idiot. This much is clear. Luckily for him this argument won't get beyond the Westminster bubble and a few Twatters sniggering about it for a few hours today.DaemonBarber said:Chris Bryant replies bluntly...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/19/chris-bryant-letter-james-blunt-in-full0 -
I see pbc's bizarre anti Oxfam thing has resurfaced for the day.
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I recall McMillan Cancer care get caught up in questions of impartiality CIRCA 2011, question to the Prime Minister fed thro Ed Miliband. I thought it a disgrace at the time, and noble charity it might be, but they'll never get a penny from me until the can prove their impartiality.. and that might be some time.0
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Chris "Underpants" Bryant vs James "Cliche" Blunt.
It's really hard to know who to cheer in this one !
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Another Kipper surge in the making?MikeK said:
No, look again at the post. I said that 102 seats was a number I heard repeated among kippers at the time.TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought your latest prediction was for 102 seatsMikeK said:
LOL.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Dear MikeKMikeK said:I've been out a lot today. Where are these polls that were/are expected?
Are you sitting down?
Have you taken all the pills?
I heard a rumour that UKIP were on 30%+
Amongst 90 year old males living by the seaside..... Actually I heard a rumour that my forecast of 40± seats for UKIP are now a minimum. Keep than fan going; smelling salts on the side board.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/5568825060842823680 -
Perhaps that is because Oxfam have today released a very silly 'study'.Neil said:I see pbc's bizarre anti Oxfam thing has resurfaced for the day.
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SNP "expectations"
Against this, one SNP source told me that the party stood to gain a minimum of six from Labour and a maximum of 17, with the former more likely.
The nationalists are more optimistic in the case of the Liberal Democrats, They believe they can win 10 of the Lib Dem’s 11 seats if just a quarter of the party’s 2010 vote swings its way (a result that would leave just Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael standing).
http://may2015.com/datablast/is-labour-starting-to-turn-the-tide-in-scotland/
6+17+10 = 33. But of course, any such source may be managing expectations. Perhaps 17 is the number they are quietly confident of, as things stand?0 -
Perhaps they could set it up as an MTV Celebrity Deathmatch.Pulpstar said:Chris "Underpants" Bryant vs James "Cliche" Blunt.
It's really hard to know who to cheer in this one !0 -
Bah! Excellent native PB Tory wit! [whack]TheScreamingEagles said:So, when we get a poll, we need to add two to the Tory Score, and take two from the Labour score.
So last week's Ashcroft poll was a Tory lead of 10%0 -
Don't mention the RSPCA either!Neil said:I see pbc's bizarre anti Oxfam thing has resurfaced for the day.
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I'm not denying that this is happening. The illegal disastrous war in Iraq is still is stiIl a huge drag on Labour. There is also a fear that Labour might alienate ethnic minorities more by appealing to the WWC core more strongly.MaxPB said:
Also, since I haven't seen you in a while. I would like to lord it over you for a while about foreign voters deserting the Labour party. As I have said continually over the last few years on PB and denied by yourself.murali_s said:
Oxfam is a truly wonderful organisation.MaxPB said:
That 508m figure includes children, retired people, part time employed and the unemployed. Whittle that figure down and adjust for the average wage how much closer does the figure look.OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.
It is just part of Oxfam and Labour's co-ordinated attack against the cost of living crap and their continued anti-wealth agenda.
Far better than any right-wing organisation including the Tory party that you obviously subscribe to....
Having said that, ethnic minorities will still disproportionately vote in favour of Labour. I suspect BME turnout will be lowest ever recorded as huge numbers stay at home.0 -
Useful insight. That report came out a few days before Xmas so would have been missed.antifrank said:Oxfam does great work. But the revolving door between its staff and the Labour party is apparently compromising its political neutrality:
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/18795/oxfam_criticised_by_charity_commission_after_accusations_of_political_bias_in_tweet
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Wow, really? You're defending your ludicrous claim that people in Britain on the national average salary are in the richest 1%?MaxPB said:
That 508m figure includes children, retired people, part time employed and the unemployed. Whittle that figure down and adjust for the average wage how much closer does the figure look.OblitusSumMe said:
Global top 1% = 70 million people.MaxPB said:
Oxfam exists to serve its political agenda at the moment. They need to either clear all of the ex-Labour party members out or the charities commission should reconsider their charitable status. People on the national average wage in the UK are considered part of the global top "1%", are you seriously suggesting that people on the national average wage are in some way wealthy? Oxfam are.bigjohnowls said:
Oxfam save lives everydayMaxPB said:
It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.TCPoliticalBetting said:More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.
https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1
Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
Perhaps Charitable status should be reserved for charities like this
https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/william-hague-charitable-trust/
Population of the US, Japan and UK combined is 508 million, so if we assume that all of the global richest 1% are either British, American or Japanese [and none German, Swiss, Russian, etc], then they represent the richest 14% of those countries.
Your Maths appears to be erroneous. I'm happy to be corrected, of course, if the error is mine.
It is just part of Oxfam and Labour's co-ordinated attack against the cost of living crap and their continued anti-wealth agenda.0
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