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  • The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Definitely.... Tory lead of 2 points min..

    I'm calling it...

    the Blues (and lilywhites) are on the charge*



    *charge as in a glacial speed of progress but there nonetheless!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,020

    The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    I suspect not. He set an unfairly high bar for himself last week in terms of getting the right answer.

    It reminds me of Joseph Heller's response when it was suggested he had never written another book as good as Catch 22: "Who has?"

    My guess is that it will another of those interminable polls with the main parties within 1% of each other.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,155
    edited January 2015
    Neil said:

    Neil said:



    The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).

    'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.

    - See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'

    Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?
    I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.
    I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).

    True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Us Geordies are famous for wearing no socks or coats in January - and girls with purple legs from the cold.
    Indigo said:

    Cyclefree said:

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    When you were a teenager you would have said "it's fashionable" in a tone which implied that explained everything, and no further discussion was required... my sister did, my daughter would do it we didn't live in the tropics ;)

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,173

    Here are the Tory levels of support in all Populus polls this year, for the 65+ age group:

    46%, 44%, 38%, 44%, 52%.

    Guess which one comes in the most recent Populus, after the introduction of the pensioner bribebond?

    Oh dear - are we feeling bitter to be younger than 65?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Neil said:

    Neil said:



    The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).

    'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.

    - See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'

    Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?
    I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.
    I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).

    True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.
    But then 45% of people did turn out to vote for a something "just a bit more shit than the UK Government" last September so there's no accounting for taste.

  • CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    As you say, whatever threads you put up, the 'others' will suspect they're being short changed.

    Many Labour people accuse the BBC of being rabidly right wing. We all have our biases, and despite what some people think, even scientists do.

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    I love the Big Bang Theory, Physics gives me a hadron. Although I'm like Raj.

    Re Rotherham and Louise Casey's report, it is being finalised, the delay as I understand it is, that there was more people coming forward to give evidence than anticipated, and one her report aims was to help draw wider conclusions/ideas for all Councils, not just Rotherham.

    Obviously M'learned friends are taking their time over the report before it is published.
  • FF42FF42 Posts: 114
    Turnout is going to be the key thing in Scotland. There's always a danger in talking about the "mood" of a nation, if you just project your own feelings onto your fellow countrymen. But I suspect there is a huge sense of disillusionment about in Scotland.

    Those supporting independence were motivated by a combination of a positive vision of the future with a sense of grievance about the present. With their positive vision crushed by the referendum, only the grievance remains, but doubled by a sense of being robbed.

    Meanwhile the rest of us are fed up with the posturing, the politics and the anti-politics.

    How will this translate into turnout? Will independence voters turn out to show their rage or stay at home? Will voters be the normal older middle class people, who mostly voted No?

    An interesting factoid from the survey tables. Interviewees were asked, " In the May 2011 election for the Scottish Parliament, half of Scottish people voted and the other half did not vote. Can you remember whether you voted in that particular election?" 77% said Yes to that question
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Morning all.

    The single most important thing I did to reduce my heating bills was to insulate my house properly and eliminate as many draughts as possible. It has made a huge difference both to the bills and to our comfort.

    Improving our existing housing stock would do at least as much as price freezing/lower energy bills and what-have-you to reduce what people have to spend and our carbon emissions.

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    Boring, unglamorous, old-fashioned: yes but essential IMO.

    This is possibly my boringest comment ever, but have you tried HIVE? It's heating you control with wifi, from your PC, laptop, iPad, smartphone, anywhere in the world - or from your nice warm bed. Amazing.

    https://www.hivehome.com/

    It asks you - as you leave the house - do you want to turn your heating off, or down, or set it at 13C for 3 hours? It offers automatic frost protection. It saves £100s.

    I just got a hefty rebate from NPower - three figures - because after installing Hive my heating bills nosedived, and I had overpaid.
    Not boring at all. Interesting (to me anyway) because I have just been offered this by nPower and couldn't work out whether worth it or not. So thanks - will have another look.

    BTW - just to show how much draughts cost you - and what a difference two mild winters make - my combined monthly gas/electricity payments dropped by nearly four-fifths.

    It's definitely worth it. Here's a positive review (and I think they underplay the money-saving aspect). Hive and its cousins are also the future of heating, for sure: within 10 years all domestic central heating will be operated this way - might as well start now?

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gadgets/appliances/british-gas-hive-1266485/review
    What happens when the North Koreans hack the system?
    It will turnout to be disgruntled former Sony employees but not before a war hysteria is generated leading to yet another unprovoked attack on some hapless country as well as yet more billions wasted on cyber security.
  • Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:



    The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).

    'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.

    - See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'

    Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?
    I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.
    I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).

    True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.
    But then 45% of people did turn out to vote for a something "just a bit more shit than the UK Government" last September so there's no accounting for taste.

    I'm talking about your 'informative value', no longer sure what you're talking about.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326
    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Morning all.

    The single most important thing I did to reduce my heating bills was to insulate my house properly and eliminate as many draughts as possible. It has made a huge difference both to the bills and to our comfort.

    Improving our existing housing stock would do at least as much as price freezing/lower energy bills and what-have-you to reduce what people have to spend and our carbon emissions.

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    Boring, unglamorous, old-fashioned: yes but essential IMO.

    Amazing.

    https://www.hivehome.com/

    It asks you - as you leave the house - do you want to turn your heating off, or down, or set it at 13C for 3 hours? It offers automatic frost protection. It saves £100s.

    I just got a hefty rebate from NPower - three figures - because after installing Hive my heating bills nosedived, and I had overpaid.
    Not boring at all. Interesting (to me anyway) because I have just been offered this by nPower and couldn't work out whether worth it or not. So thanks - will have another look.

    BTW - just to show how much draughts cost you - and what a difference two mild winters make - my combined monthly gas/electricity payments dropped by nearly four-fifths.

    It's definitely worth it. Here's a positive review (and I think they underplay the money-saving aspect). Hive and its cousins are also the future of heating, for sure: within 10 years all domestic central heating will be operated this way - might as well start now?

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gadgets/appliances/british-gas-hive-1266485/review
    Thank you.
    Indigo said:

    Cyclefree said:

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    When you were a teenager you would have said "it's fashionable" in a tone which implied that explained everything, and no further discussion was required... my sister did, my daughter would do it we didn't live in the tropics ;)

    When I was a teenager I lived in houses that had no central heating or, indeed, heating of any kind beyond hot water bottles and it was always freezing. So I got used to it and my mother's incessant insistence on wearing vests. It may explain why my lungs are shot to pieces now, though.

    Teenagers seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in bed so maybe that explains why they don't feel the cold as much. They're not in it for very long.

  • YouGov have put Peter Kellner's article from the Sunday Times up.
    If he's right then there's some decent bets out there.
    David Cameron is on course to lead the largest party following May’s general election – but it could be touch and go whether he can remain prime minister
    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/01/19/how-cameron-could-win-and-lose/

    If Cameron is able to remain as PM, EdM will have to go. The betting then moves onto who his replacement is. After the shift to the left with EdM, will Labour choose a more Blairite candidate? Or are the internal electoral numbers stacked up for another leftie such as Burnham, albeit his leftie roots are recently acquired?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Morning all.

    The single most important thing I did to reduce my heating bills was to insulate my house properly and eliminate as many draughts as possible. It has made a huge difference both to the bills and to our comfort.

    Improving our existing housing stock would do at least as much as price freezing/lower energy bills and what-have-you to reduce what people have to spend and our carbon emissions.

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    Boring, unglamorous, old-fashioned: yes but essential IMO.

    Amazing.

    https://www.hivehome.com/

    It asks you - as you leave the house - do you want to turn your heating off, or down, or set it at 13C for 3 hours? It offers automatic frost protection. It saves £100s.

    I just got a hefty rebate from NPower - three figures - because after installing Hive my heating bills nosedived, and I had overpaid.
    Not boring at all. Interesting (to me anyway) because I have just been offered this by nPower and couldn't work out whether worth it or not. So thanks - will have another look.

    BTW - just to show how much draughts cost you - and what a difference two mild winters make - my combined monthly gas/electricity payments dropped by nearly four-fifths.

    It's definitely worth it. Here's a positive review (and I think they underplay the money-saving aspect). Hive and its cousins are also the future of heating, for sure: within 10 years all domestic central heating will be operated this way - might as well start now?

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gadgets/appliances/british-gas-hive-1266485/review
    Thank you.
    Indigo said:

    Cyclefree said:

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    When you were a teenager you would have said "it's fashionable" in a tone which implied that explained everything, and no further discussion was required... my sister did, my daughter would do it we didn't live in the tropics ;)

    When I was a teenager I lived in houses that had no central heating or, indeed, heating of any kind beyond hot water bottles and it was always freezing. So I got used to it and my mother's incessant insistence on wearing vests. It may explain why my lungs are shot to pieces now, though.

    Teenagers seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in bed so maybe that explains why they don't feel the cold as much. They're not in it for very long.

    Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited January 2015
    Big Bang relies on either being a geek or knowing them. Without that, it'd make little sense. Have you seen Boston Legal? William Shatner and James Spader are epic.
    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.

    CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    As you say, whatever threads you put up, the 'others' will suspect they're being short changed.

    Many Labour people accuse the BBC of being rabidly right wing. We all have our biases, and despite what some people think, even scientists do.

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    My GF loves Big Bang but I just don't get it. Didn't raise a single chuckle in me. I agree about 24 tho, it loses pace by season 3 or 4, and flails beyond that. As indeed do most TV dramas. It is virtually a law of scriptwriting. And it is the reason very very few dramas go beyond 5 seasons.

    As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    edited January 2015
    Interesting/fascinating piece by Isabel Hardman

    Don't write David Cameron off - the tide may be turning among Tories

    Many Conservative Party release the PM is more popular than they are - and could keep them in power

    http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/isobel-hardman-dont-write-david-cameron-off--the-tide-may-be-turning-among-tories-9987626.html
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    No, my opinion is based on the fact that I used to be a nurse, and also the reality of having three elderly relatives who had suffered from very poor care while they were in hospital in various parts of Scotland in recent years. Add to that my own personal experience over the last few months due to a health scare, and I have some very genuine concerns.
    malcolmg said:

    fitalass said:

    I genuinely believe that anyone other than the SNP could do a better job of getting their priorities right when it comes to running the Scottish NHS right now. For start, I would get rid of the new shift hours that nursing staff now work. What the hell were people thinking when they thought this was a good idea, certainly not maintaining a good continuity of care for the patients that is for sure.

    JPJ2 said:

    fitalass:

    "As a side note. I have been warning of the difficulties that the Scottish NHS was facing for the last few years on PB, it is under serious pressure right now"

    While this is true, as it is everywhere in the UK, a recent poll showed the SNP are the most trusted party on the NHS in Scotland.

    In spite of all the efforts of BBC Scotland, there is no plurality believing that SLAB or the Tories would do as well, never mind better.

    LOL, surprise surprise a Tory thinks they could sell of the NHS and it would be better. I am sure it is the SNP that do the shift rotas on the NHS. Not too bright methinks or just blinded by hatred of SNP.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Only 210 mins for random number generator poll.

    Do all other firms last polls have Lab narrowly ahead.

    If so LARGER (Lord Ashcroft Randomly Generated Election Result) probably a 10 pt lead either way.

    As you say Gold Standard
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    edited January 2015
    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.

    CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    As you say, whatever threads you put up, the 'others' will suspect they're being short changed.

    Many Labour people accuse the BBC of being rabidly right wing. We all have our biases, and despite what some people think, even scientists do.

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    My GF loves Big Bang but I just don't get it. Didn't raise a single chuckle in me. I agree about 24 tho, it loses pace by season 3 or 4, and flails beyond that. As indeed do most TV dramas. It is virtually a law of scriptwriting. And it is the reason very very few dramas go beyond 5 seasons.

    As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
    I find the Big Bang theory to be the most painfully unfunny sitcom I can remember watching. It seems to be mainly laughing at stale cliches of nerds, but with a laughter track to remind you when to laugh.

    I agree on 24, but felt it nose-dived quicker than you felt. The first season was great, but the format quickly became repetitive. It also lost my suspension of disbelief when the CTU turned out to have the worst screening process for counter-agents I've ever seen. I felt a similar thing with Homeland. You can take one, or even two, incredible consequences as just the premise of the show, but when it gets to five or six you've lost me.
  • The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Only 210 mins for random number generator poll.

    Do all other firms last polls have Lab narrowly ahead.

    If so LARGER (Lord Ashcroft Randomly Generated Election Result) probably a 10 pt lead either way.

    As you say Gold Standard
    Odd you don't diss the Lord Ashcroft polling when it had Labour doing well in the marginals.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Only 210 mins for random number generator poll.

    Do all other firms last polls have Lab narrowly ahead.

    If so LARGER (Lord Ashcroft Randomly Generated Election Result) probably a 10 pt lead either way.

    As you say Gold Standard
    Odd you don't diss the Lord Ashcroft polling when it had Labour doing well in the marginals.
    Always been random in my eyes
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I had a fish tank thermometer on my bedroom window as a kid. It usually said about 54f during the winter. We had real Norwegian eider downs to stay snug at night
    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:



    Improving our existing housing stock would do at least as much as price freezing/lower energy bills and what-have-you to reduce what people have to spend and our carbon emissions.

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    Boring, unglamorous, old-fashioned: yes but essential IMO.

    Amazing.

    https://www.hivehome.com/

    It asks you - as you leave the house - do you want to turn your heating off, or down, or set it at 13C for 3 hours? It offers automatic frost protection. It saves £100s.

    I just got a hefty rebate from NPower - three figures - because after installing Hive my heating bills nosedived, and I had overpaid.
    Not boring at all. Interesting (to me anyway) because I have just been offered this by nPower and couldn't work out whether worth it or not. So thanks - will have another look.

    BTW - just to show how much draughts cost you - and what a difference two mild winters make - my combined monthly gas/electricity payments dropped by nearly four-fifths.

    It's definitely worth it. Here's a positive review (and I think they underplay the money-saving aspect). Hive and its cousins are also the future of heating, for sure: within 10 years all domestic central heating will be operated this way - might as well start now?

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gadgets/appliances/british-gas-hive-1266485/review
    Thank you.
    Indigo said:

    Cyclefree said:

    That and telling teenagers who seem to think a light T-shirt is adequate wear for early January to stop moaning and put some clothes on.

    When you were a teenager you would have said "it's fashionable" in a tone which implied that explained everything, and no further discussion was required... my sister did, my daughter would do it we didn't live in the tropics ;)

    When I was a teenager I lived in houses that had no central heating or, indeed, heating of any kind beyond hot water bottles and it was always freezing. So I got used to it and my mother's incessant insistence on wearing vests. It may explain why my lungs are shot to pieces now, though.

    Teenagers seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in bed so maybe that explains why they don't feel the cold as much. They're not in it for very long.

  • JamesMoJamesMo Posts: 35
    Since a couple of people have picked up on the Jim Murphy demanding knighthoods for old Rangers and Celtic players, this is from a Celtic fans' site.

    http://etims.net/?p=6412

    Dear Jim Murphy – Please Stop!
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326
    edited January 2015
    In response to Pulpstar


    "Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O"

    It is if you live in a flat so damp that it was declared unfit for human habitation. At any event, I have the sort of medical history with my lungs that makes doctors drool. I am practically a walking medical casebook. When I was v ill once in hospital I could hardly get any sleep so frequent were the visits from students and their teachers anxious to use me as a teaching aid.

  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    antifrank said:

    fitalass said:

    Nope, you are obviously not ready to admit that this smart politics by Jim Murphy when it comes to targeting the Scots voters he is trying to persuade to vote for Labour at the next GE. I doubt that dyed in the wool Yes voting Celtic fans are at the top of that list. He is at least attempting to bring together and unite Scots with this campaign, whereas the SNP seem determined to maintain the politics of division...

    fitalass said:

    You are obviously not old enough to remember the popularity of both Billy McNeil and John Greig.... Go on, admit it through gnashing of teeth, this is extremely smart politics from Jim Murphy?

    malcolmg said:

    As J***s K***y notes, the much touted SCon revival on the back of Davidson's 'good' referendum appears entirely absent. It seems, as with Murphy, that despite winning the referendum, it has had very few knock-on benefits for Unionist pols.

    How pathetic can Murphy get, he now wants knighthoods for Billy McNeil and John Greig. You just could not make it up.
    UK honours have always gone down well with the Green Brigade.
    There are people who give a toss about honours, and there are people who don't. I'm pretty sure Yes voting Celtic supporters are in the latter category.

    It's just another example of Murphy's slightly tin-eared hoordom: 'You like this, and this? Is this doing it for you baby?'


    Jim Murphy understands who he needs to get back to Labour and has some understanding of what motivates them. I'm far from convinced that he has time to achieve the job for May to salvage much from the wreckage, or that the people he needs to get back are ready to listen to him.
    I think Jim Murphy's main challenge is to keep SLAB support at the 25% level. Not only is he fighting the SNP, but UKIP and the Greens will also be eating into SLAB's support base. A further challenge will be hanging onto the ex-LibDem support once they are free of the shackles of the Coalition. He will also need to turn his guns onto the Tories, which will limit any tactical voting.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Olive Kitteridge was the last good bit of drama I watched.. Sky Atlantic seems to be a good channel for this. Fortitude is the next big one apparently
  • Unimpressed by performance of Labour's 34 yr old "hope for the future" Alison McGovern MP on Daily Politics Show. Trained by G. Brown so that may explain a lot.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Only 210 mins for random number generator poll.

    Do all other firms last polls have Lab narrowly ahead.

    If so LARGER (Lord Ashcroft Randomly Generated Election Result) probably a 10 pt lead either way.

    As you say Gold Standard
    Dunno about Gold Standard but it was certainly very, very reliable last week.

    At least I think it was. I never understand polls until someone else has Baxtered them for me.

  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    This could shake things up in Scotland.The SNP to decide,to frack,or not to frack.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/19/scottish-government-decision-on-fracking-imminent?CMP=share_btn_tw
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited January 2015
    Socrates said:

    It also lost my suspension of disbelief when the CTU turned out to have the worst screening process for counter-agents I've ever seen.

    Yup, since the US seems to model policy on it (or they did with torture) they really need to just go ahead and lock up everybody in their intelligence services preventatively before they have a chance to attempt their various evil plots.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,020
    edited January 2015
    Cyclefree said:

    In response to Pulpstar

    "Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O"

    It is if you live in a flat so damp that it was declared unfit for human habitation. At any event, I have the sort of medical history with my lungs that makes doctors drool. I am practically a walking medical casebook. When I was v ill once in hospital I could hardly get any sleep so frequent were the visits from students and their teachers anxious to use me as a teaching aid.



    A friend of mine emigrated to Canada, came out of a shopping centre in Toronto on a cold winter's day, took a gulp of air and died. Apparently his lungs froze. Locals knew to baffle the air flows through scarfs etc but he was used to sunny Dundee.

    It was seriously cold, even colder than your flat I would guess

    When I was a child ice on the inside of bedroom windows was fairly commonplace. Its what you are used to I suspect.
  • I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    Cyclefree said:

    In response to Pulpstar

    "Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O"

    It is if you live in a flat so damp that it was declared unfit for human habitation. At any event, I have the sort of medical history with my lungs that makes doctors drool. I am practically a walking medical casebook. When I was v ill once in hospital I could hardly get any sleep so frequent were the visits from students and their teachers anxious to use me as a teaching aid.



    Ah fair enough, "damp" (And the associated fungus) is for sure.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    SeanT,

    There may be evidence that fits her theory and to be fair, she did try to predict, but the LHC results aren't being as helpful as they might (don't ask me for the details, though). These theories come and go and very few persist in their original form but they form a basis to move forward. Of course, it helps if you can definitively rule them out at some stage. It's still wait and see.

    And for M theory, it's still a matter of faith - faith in mathematics as representing reality. Don't forget that mathematics doesn't have time at all and infinities still boggles its mind

    To get a Theory of Everything, we need to begin by linking relativity with quantum theory and that's still a way off, despite the weekly "breakthroughs" announced. Think the tabloid press and cures for cancer.

    Mr Eagles, thanks for the info about the Casey review. I 'd forgotten about the lawyers.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I much prefer Homeland. The current season has surprises. It got lost in the previous season.

    You've had a House experience too. Mine was multiple emergency admissions for a random selection of life threatening ones. Still no idea what set off tachycardia or other stuff.
    Cyclefree said:




    Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O

    .

    Cyclefree said:




    Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O

    It is if you live in a flat so damp that it was declared unfit for human habitation. At any event, I have the sort of medical history with my lungs that makes doctors drool. I am practically a walking medical casebook. When I was v ill once in hospital I could hardly get any sleep so frequent were the visits from students and their teachers anxious to use me as a teaching aid.

    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.

    CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    Snip

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
    I find the Big Bang theory to be the most painfully unfunny sitcom I can remember watching. It seems to be mainly laughing at stale cliches of nerds, but with a laughter track to remind you when to laugh.

    I agree on 24, but felt it nose-dived quicker than you felt. The first season was great, but the format quickly became repetitive. It also lost my suspension of disbelief when the CTU turned out to have the worst screening process for counter-agents I've ever seen. I felt a similar thing with Homeland. You can take one, or even two, incredible consequences as just the premise of the show, but when it gets to five or six you've lost me.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Ishmael_X said:

    The big polling question today is will Lord Ashcroft's poll retain its gold standard status ?

    Only 210 mins for random number generator poll.

    Do all other firms last polls have Lab narrowly ahead.

    If so LARGER (Lord Ashcroft Randomly Generated Election Result) probably a 10 pt lead either way.

    As you say Gold Standard
    Dunno about Gold Standard but it was certainly very, very reliable last week.

    At least I think it was. I never understand polls until someone else has Baxtered them for me.

    I think I can help you there
  • CD13 said:

    SeanT,

    There may be evidence that fits her theory and to be fair, she did try to predict, but the LHC results aren't being as helpful as they might (don't ask me for the details, though). These theories come and go and very few persist in their original form but they form a basis to move forward. Of course, it helps if you can definitively rule them out at some stage. It's still wait and see.

    And for M theory, it's still a matter of faith - faith in mathematics as representing reality. Don't forget that mathematics doesn't have time at all and infinities still boggles its mind

    To get a Theory of Everything, we need to begin by linking relativity with quantum theory and that's still a way off, despite the weekly "breakthroughs" announced. Think the tabloid press and cures for cancer.

    Mr Eagles, thanks for the info about the Casey review. I 'd forgotten about the lawyers.

    Given the legal action instigated last week, they have to be cautious.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    Can I urge people to follow the link. I know we are on best behaviour about copy n pasting today but that is by no means the only good bit.

  • Ishmael_X said:

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    Can I urge people to follow the link. I know we are on best behaviour about copy n pasting today but that is by no means the only good bit.

    Yeah, I was going to lead with "You classist gimp"
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Toxic black mould is a regular on House. Never known anyone who was made ill by it.
    Pulpstar said:

    Cyclefree said:

    In response to Pulpstar

    "Cold is bad for your lungs ? o_O"
    It is if you live in a flat so damp that it was declared unfit for human habitation. At any event, I have the sort of medical history with my lungs that makes doctors drool. I am practically a walking medical casebook. When I was v ill once in hospital I could hardly get any sleep so frequent were the visits from students and their teachers anxious to use me as a teaching aid.



    Ah fair enough, "damp" (And the associated fungus) is for sure.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited January 2015
    Umunna storms off Sky News after being asked to comment on Pickles letter.
  • RodCrosby said:

    Umunna storms off Sky News after being asked to comment on Pickles letter.

    He was such an idiot.

    The interviewer, Dermot Murnaghan said "he's needing more time to find out the Labour line to to take"
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    James Blunt is very funny on Twitter He pushes back on detractors without fear.
    Ishmael_X said:

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    Can I urge people to follow the link. I know we are on best behaviour about copy n pasting today but that is by no means the only good bit.

  • JamesMo said:

    Since a couple of people have picked up on the Jim Murphy demanding knighthoods for old Rangers and Celtic players, this is from a Celtic fans' site.

    http://etims.net/?p=6412

    Dear Jim Murphy – Please Stop!

    Ho, ho, etims evidently know nothing about smart politics.

    'I could write a few dozen paragraphs on how it sickens me to see a so called Scottish Party( Do Scottish Labour exist on their own?) use Celtic (and Rangers) to increase their grass roots appeal and expand their media coverage, aided of course by that great friend of Celtic , The Daily Record ( Thugs and Thieves anyone), but I wont.
    I could write a long and lengthy rant at how sad it is to see our Greatest Captain being used as a Political toy ( knowingly or unknowingly) to further a desperate mans attempt to climb up the popularity stakes by going for the lowest common denominator instead of actually thinking up Policy that can help people, but I wont.'
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.

    Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    That article really doesn't invoke any sort of passion either way, but the dreadful spelling and grammar in the comments section winds me up.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    RodCrosby said:

    Umunna storms off Sky News after being asked to comment on Pickles letter.

    RodCrosby said:

    Umunna storms off Sky News after being asked to comment on Pickles letter.

    He was such an idiot.

    The interviewer, Dermot Murnaghan said "he's needing more time to find out the Labour line to to take"
    Sadiq Khan already gave Labour's line on it, which was fair and reasoned, just like the letter and Dave's response to the criticism of it.
  • Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.

    Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.

    James Blunt is a top egg.

    I've seen him live a few times.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,568

    Oxfam (they used to worry about famine) are filling the BBC news channels with this "report" into global inequality. 10 years ago other NGOs complained about Oxfam's closeness with the Labour party. From the New Statesman May 2005.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/world-affairs/2014/04/why-oxfam-failing-africa
    "One senior NGO official .....describes the relationship as "far too cosy". He says: "They have incredible access, and what that has meant is that Oxfam are the ones who are always asked to speak for the whole development movement.......They have decided that, in the longer term, their lot is best served by being in with Labour and they go out on a limb to endorse the government.""

    Not convinced by this "Someone said in 2005" evidence. I think they're oppositionist rather than Labour-leaning. As a Labour MP I felt they were tiresomely hostile (War on Want was even more so, and I support both organisations) - you could do 75% of what they wanted and they'd instantly slag you off for not doing the remaining 25%. I'm not religious but I found Christian Aid a lot more reasonable - they'd praise you if you did what they thought was the right thing and attack you if you didn't.

    Ultimately, though NGOs do what their supporters want, and why not? That's the reason there's an "N" in the phrase.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,831
    Ishmael_X said:

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    Can I urge people to follow the link. I know we are on best behaviour about copy n pasting today but that is by no means the only good bit.

    And so say all of us. Well done Blunt.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,410
    My Guardian "name" is JamesBl ...
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Just read blunt's letter to Bryant.

    Rather magnificent.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    scotslass said:

    I should have added Mr McKenna "a traditional Labour voter now supporting independence has his finger rather closer to the pulse in understanding these things than Carlotta."

    I have my finger on the pulse sufficiently to note that George Osborne has not been Chancellor of the exchequer for 10 years....
  • scotslass said:

    I should have added Mr McKenna "a traditional Labour voter now supporting independence has his finger rather closer to the pulse in understanding these things than Carlotta."

    I have my finger on the pulse sufficiently to note that George Osborne has not been Chancellor of the exchequer for 10 years....
    It's GOTV all over again innit?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    As J***s K***y notes, the much touted SCon revival on the back of Davidson's 'good' referendum appears entirely absent. It seems, as with Murphy, that despite winning the referendum, it has had very few knock-on benefits for Unionist pols.

    How pathetic can Murphy get, he now wants knighthoods for Billy McNeil and John Greig. You just could not make it up.
    UK honours have always gone down well with the Green Brigade.
    You have to wonder if being at the trough in London for so long has addled his brain. He seems to think Scotland is as it was 20 years ago.
    He definitely seems very out of touch as to the influence Sectarianism has in Scotland these days, this goes back to the Monklands by-election when the dirty politics of Labour's institutional Catholic bias was exposed.

    Sectarianism has been dying for years, it's been dying since at least the late 80s and I can't remember the last time the code-phrase "what team do you support?" was asked of me by someone I met for the first time. I remember not so long ago it was the standard first question you ever got asked.

    Now with the removal of the Old Firm Game for three years, its main re-enforcing factor has also gone.

    Murphy appear to be courting a Catholic vote, he's been very forthright in reminding people how good a Catholic he is, I would think his expectation is that the Loyalist vote will stay with Labour regardless of what he says. I don't know how much traction that will have. UKIP support in the Loyalist trenches is pretty apparent on Rangers forums.

    In effect he's failing to get Yes supporting Catholics back while alienating Yes and No supporting Protestants and alienating those of no religion.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    RodCrosby said:

    Umunna storms off Sky News after being asked to comment on Pickles letter.

    Chuka was in a rush to get to a cool bar that wasn't full of trash and C-list wannabes.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.

    CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    Snip

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    ...
    As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
    I find the Big Bang theory to be the most painfully unfunny sitcom I can remember watching. It seems to be mainly laughing at stale cliches of nerds, but with a laughter track to remind you when to laugh.

    I agree on 24, but felt it nose-dived quicker than you felt. The first season was great, but the format quickly became repetitive. It also lost my suspension of disbelief when the CTU turned out to have the worst screening process for counter-agents I've ever seen. I felt a similar thing with Homeland. You can take one, or even two, incredible consequences as just the premise of the show, but when it gets to five or six you've lost me.

    Willing suspension of disbelief. Oxford and its surrounding countryside are nothing like Morse Lewis and Midsommer Murders. Although the recent arson and destruction of the council offices contradict that (in fact on second thought they don't - its far too unbelievable event for fiction).
    All crime/police/spy/political dramas are fantasy. The more you try to make them look believable the more of dilemma's horns you catch yourself on.

    If my grandson is anything to go by, Big Bang Theory is comedy for 11 year olds. I can't work out if that is good or bad. There is of course the possibility that all Art is infantile which, were it to be true, is perhaps a concept even deeper than Quantum Mechanics.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,384
    Labour really going to turn the leadership over to him after Red Ed? I mean really?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    edited January 2015
    GIN1138 said:

    Labour really going to turn the leadership over to him after Red Ed? I mean really?

    Do people still call Barack Obama the American Chuka Umunna?
  • Ishmael_X said:

    I've always liked James Blunt, and he's socking it to Reverend Underpants

    After the shadow culture minister name-checked Blunt as one of the performers from a ‘privileged background’ dominating the arts, the singer decided to write back

    And then you come along, looking for votes, telling working class people that posh people like me don’t deserve it, and that we must redress the balance. But it is your populist, envy-based, vote-hunting ideas which make our country crap, far more than me and my shit songs, and my plummy accent.

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/19/james-blunts-letter-chris-bryant-in-full

    Can I urge people to follow the link. I know we are on best behaviour about copy n pasting today but that is by no means the only good bit.

    And so say all of us. Well done Blunt.

    And many thanks for preventing WW3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753050 . No, I really mean it. Hate the songs but they can be forgiven.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Labour really going to turn the leadership over to him after Red Ed? I mean really?

    If he'd stuck to his guns and said, look when I read the letter I will give you a comment, he;d have been OK....
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    James Blunts letter to Chris Bryant,published on Order-Order shows why Labour are a failed Political party..the party of envy and dumbing down.

    And you can also enjoy the flounce of Chukka..spoiled brat that he is.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,347
    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:



    The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).

    'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.

    - See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'

    Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?
    I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.
    I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).

    True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.
    But then 45% of people did turn out to vote for a something "just a bit more shit than the UK Government" last September so there's no accounting for taste.

    The other way to look at it is that only a minority of Scots actually voted for the most glorious Union in the last 300 years. Not exactly a resounding statement of approval. The rest voted against or cared so little about remaining in the UK that they didn't bother voting. And that was after a propaganda campaign of which we won't see the like till the Brexit campaign (and you lot will sure know it when it happens).

  • How awesome

    Young Tories promised a holiday in Ibiza with Dave and SamCam if they knock on enough doors before election

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916765/Young-Tories-promised-holiday-Ibiza-Dave-SamCam-knock-doors-election.html
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @GIN1138

    'Labour really going to turn the leadership over to him after Red Ed? I mean really?'

    I hope so,great entertainment.

    Pure comedy gold.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,590

    YouGov have put Peter Kellner's article from the Sunday Times up.
    If he's right then there's some decent bets out there.
    David Cameron is on course to lead the largest party following May’s general election – but it could be touch and go whether he can remain prime minister
    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/01/19/how-cameron-could-win-and-lose/

    If Cameron is able to remain as PM, EdM will have to go. The betting then moves onto who his replacement is. After the shift to the left with EdM, will Labour choose a more Blairite candidate? Or are the internal electoral numbers stacked up for another leftie such as Burnham, albeit his leftie roots are recently acquired?
    Surely his recent acquisition of leftie roots show you which way things are going in the Labour party membership...
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,550
    Yes, we another double by-election for two hereditary crossbencher peers in the House of Lords due to two retirements.

    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2014/Lords-notice-list-of-candidates-Chorley-Abernethy.pdf

    As usual we have short statements from most of the candidates (but not the Duke of Marlborough).

    Results first week of February.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Keep telling you about our chuka,the mirror mirror on the wall politician.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Socrates said:


    I find the Big Bang theory to be the most painfully unfunny sitcom I can remember watching. It seems to be mainly laughing at stale cliches of nerds, but with a laughter track to remind you when to laugh.

    I agree on 24, but felt it nose-dived quicker than you felt. The first season was great, but the format quickly became repetitive. It also lost my suspension of disbelief when the CTU turned out to have the worst screening process for counter-agents I've ever seen. I felt a similar thing with Homeland. You can take one, or even two, incredible consequences as just the premise of the show, but when it gets to five or six you've lost me.

    The first season of 24 is great, absolutely fantastic television. The second season is poor, the third season is worse and, after a great opening couple of hours, the 4th season is despicably bad.

    Do you know the original concept of 24 was going to be 24 hours before a wedding. I watched 24 for the real-time ness, not the Jack Bauer and his CTU friends fun show. It would have been great if the second season had ditched tyhe entire cast of the first season and had done something different - just kept the real time nature.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    @Socrates said:

    I find the Big Bang theory to be the most painfully unfunny sitcom I can remember watching. It seems to be mainly laughing at stale cliches of nerds, but with a laughter track to remind you when to laugh.


    They use a live audience, not a laughter track.

  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    How awesome

    Young Tories promised a holiday in Ibiza with Dave and SamCam if they knock on enough doors before election

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916765/Young-Tories-promised-holiday-Ibiza-Dave-SamCam-knock-doors-election.html


    1st prize: one week with Dave and Sam.

    2nd prize....

  • Some of you may have noticed, I put in the subtle pop music reference here and there.

    But I have nothing, on John Boehner, Speaker of the US House of Representatives.

    He's done a response to Obama's latest policy using Taylor Swift gifs

    http://www.speaker.gov/general/12-taylor-swift-reactions-president-obamas-free-college-idea
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    edited January 2015
    The left are just determined to avoid discussion of this issue. They just repeat this thing of "nothing to see here", "Muslim values are British values" (really? "Muslim values" include freedom of speech, representative government and constitutionalism?") etc and refuse to engage further. When Ed Miliband was asked about the Rotherham and Rochdale scandals, he just said "it's awful, lessons will be learnt" platitudes. Nothing more will be done.

    Just the other day the Guardian release a piece of saying that 'Islamophobia' (i.e. criticism of Islam), is "racism plain and simple" and therefor not "legitimate expression":

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/10/islamophobia-racism-dresden-protests-germany-islamisation

    Presumably the ground is being prepared for a banning of anti-Islam criticism, because, like racism, it is "illegitimate" and therefore not covered by free speech.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,347
    Dair said:

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    As J***s K***y notes, the much touted SCon revival on the back of Davidson's 'good' referendum appears entirely absent. It seems, as with Murphy, that despite winning the referendum, it has had very few knock-on benefits for Unionist pols.

    How pathetic can Murphy get, he now wants knighthoods for Billy McNeil and John Greig. You just could not make it up.
    UK honours have always gone down well with the Green Brigade.
    You have to wonder if being at the trough in London for so long has addled his brain. He seems to think Scotland is as it was 20 years ago.
    He definitely seems very out of touch as to the influence Sectarianism has in Scotland these days, this goes back to the Monklands by-election when the dirty politics of Labour's institutional Catholic bias was exposed.

    Sectarianism has been dying for years, it's been dying since at least the late 80s and I can't remember the last time the code-phrase "what team do you support?" was asked of me by someone I met for the first time. I remember not so long ago it was the standard first question you ever got asked.

    Now with the removal of the Old Firm Game for three years, its main re-enforcing factor has also gone.

    Murphy appear to be courting a Catholic vote, he's been very forthright in reminding people how good a Catholic he is, I would think his expectation is that the Loyalist vote will stay with Labour regardless of what he says. I don't know how much traction that will have. UKIP support in the Loyalist trenches is pretty apparent on Rangers forums.

    In effect he's failing to get Yes supporting Catholics back while alienating Yes and No supporting Protestants and alienating those of no religion.
    Excellent, thanks. I'd been wondering about that issue but didn't know enough about it as I don't live in the obvious area.

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    taffys said:

    Labour really going to turn the leadership over to him after Red Ed? I mean really?

    If he'd stuck to his guns and said, look when I read the letter I will give you a comment, he;d have been OK....

    It was bizarre - for some reason he wasn't even being a politician very well:

    Q: "Is the letter patronising?"
    A: "I haven't read the letter and I will do so and look forward to coming back to discuss it here (endearing grin to Dermot) but I think we need to remember that all communities make a great contrib...etc, etc, blah, blah.."

    Job done.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    fitalass said:

    Nope, you are obviously not ready to admit that this smart politics by Jim Murphy when it comes to targeting the Scots voters he is trying to persuade to vote for Labour at the next GE. I doubt that dyed in the wool Yes voting Celtic fans are at the top of that list. He is at least attempting to bring together and unite Scots with this campaign, whereas the SNP seem determined to maintain the politics of division...

    fitalass said:

    You are obviously not old enough to remember the popularity of both Billy McNeil and John Greig.... Go on, admit it through gnashing of teeth, this is extremely smart politics from Jim Murphy?

    malcolmg said:

    As J***s K***y notes, the much touted SCon revival on the back of Davidson's 'good' referendum appears entirely absent. It seems, as with Murphy, that despite winning the referendum, it has had very few knock-on benefits for Unionist pols.

    How pathetic can Murphy get, he now wants knighthoods for Billy McNeil and John Greig. You just could not make it up.
    UK honours have always gone down well with the Green Brigade.
    There are people who give a toss about honours, and there are people who don't. I'm pretty sure Yes voting Celtic supporters are in the latter category.

    It's just another example of Murphy's slightly tin-eared hoordom: 'You like this, and this? Is this doing it for you baby?'


    I wonder if you've thought your point through.

    It is absolutely divisive. Over half of Scotland DO NOT SUPPORT the Old Firm. In fact they despise the Old Firm for a variety of football and non-football reasons. Where's Willie Miller or John Robertson or David Narey or whoever other Scottish players might deserve the same consideration of Greig and McNeill but don't happen to be Old Firm legends?
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    scotslass said:

    Mike

    I now have the chance to look at the Survation detail.

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scottish-Attitudes-Jan.pdf

    There is no "cheer" of any kind for Labour in these figures small or otherwise. Just the opposite in fact. Here is just six of the best pointers.

    1) The survey was three days later than Panelbase ie 20 per cent SNP lead three days AFTER 10 per cent SNP lead.
    2) The SNP lead among women is now even higher than among men
    3) The geographical breakdown is disastrous for Labour. SNP leads everywhere but biggest swings in Glasgow and West Central Scotland (58 to 28!)
    4) Big SNP lead in North East suggests an "oil effect" if anything favourable to SNP
    5) SNP outpolls Liberals by 2-1 in Highlands , the only place Liberals have significant support
    6) SNP at 50 per cent for Scottish Parliament! In other words Labour under Murphy would get masssively less seats than the 2011 disaster under Ian Gray!

    There is much, much more in the detail and all of it good news for the SNP team.

    The lead among women is interesting, I think it reflects the fact that the SNP surge is being led by women - now 44% (pre-surge 33%), which is the highest % of any party. Not sure how this fits into Jim Murphy's lost 190,000 older male voters theory.

    Interestingly Survation identified the SNP surge 6 months ahead of the referendum, whereas most other pollsters didn't pick it up until post-ref. I think this might be due to Survation weighting regionally.

  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,550
    This document published on Friday by the ONS shows the UK deficit and debt under the Maastricht criteria ( 3% deficit and 60% debt to GDP).

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_391066.pdf

    It show Labour spending in the last parliament almost targeting a 3% deficit. For 2013/14 the deficit is 5.8% down from 10.8% in 2009/10, with debt now up to 87.9%. This shows there is still a long way to go on deficit reduction, let alone debt reduction.

    One methodological change is that child tax credits and working tax credits are now accounted for as benefits received, rather than negative tax as in the past.
  • James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.
  • Oxfam (they used to worry about famine) are filling the BBC news channels with this "report" into global inequality. 10 years ago other NGOs complained about Oxfam's closeness with the Labour party. From the New Statesman May 2005.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/world-affairs/2014/04/why-oxfam-failing-africa
    "One senior NGO official .....describes the relationship as "far too cosy". He says: "They have incredible access, and what that has meant is that Oxfam are the ones who are always asked to speak for the whole development movement.......They have decided that, in the longer term, their lot is best served by being in with Labour and they go out on a limb to endorse the government.""

    Not convinced by this "Someone said in 2005" evidence. I think they're oppositionist rather than Labour-leaning. As a Labour MP I felt they were tiresomely hostile (War on Want was even more so, and I support both organisations) - you could do 75% of what they wanted and they'd instantly slag you off for not doing the remaining 25%. I'm not religious but I found Christian Aid a lot more reasonable - they'd praise you if you did what they thought was the right thing and attack you if you didn't.......
    Er NickMP the point made was just about Oxfam being far too close with Labour WHEN IT WAS IN GOVT. Not making any point about NGOs being oppositionist. It was other NGOs (not just someone) making the point in the leftie mag New Statesman that OXFAM was in bed with Labour.

    No reason today to believe that Oxfam have severed their ties with Labour.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Carnyx said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:



    The Scottish Greens are kinda against now. They should probably rejig their website copy though (temporarily).

    'The world is also facing the end of the age of cheap oil.

    - See more at: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/policy/energy/#sthash.jExsRc0R.dpuf'

    Shouldnt they wait until the Scottish Government revises its projections for oil prices?
    I don't think alliances made during the referendum campaign extend to the Scottish Greens waiting breathlessly upon pronouncements made by the SNP government.
    I cant imagine many people are waiting breathlessly for the SNP government's oil price projections (well, not for their informative value anyway).

    True (though a few Unionists seem desperate for them). 'Just a bit more shit than those of the UK Government' isn't a great strapline.
    But then 45% of people did turn out to vote for a something "just a bit more shit than the UK Government" last September so there's no accounting for taste.

    The other way to look at it is that only a minority of Scots actually voted for the most glorious Union in the last 300 years. Not exactly a resounding statement of approval. The rest voted against or cared so little about remaining in the UK that they didn't bother voting. And that was after a propaganda campaign of which we won't see the like till the Brexit campaign (and you lot will sure know it when it happens).

    Or that fewer than 2 in 5 Scots fell for the SNP's fantastical 'currency union with the UK, automatic EU membership land of milk and honey funded by $110/barrel oil'.......
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Some of you may have noticed, I put in the subtle pop music reference here and there.

    But I have nothing, on John Boehner, Speaker of the US House of Representatives.

    He's done a response to Obama's latest policy using Taylor Swift gifs

    http://www.speaker.gov/general/12-taylor-swift-reactions-president-obamas-free-college-idea

    Subtle?
  • More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.

    https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1

    Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?
  • James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Brilliantly angry letter.

    With Klass and Blunt against them, I really don't see how labour can win from here.

    Annoy Philip Schofield, and its definitely curtains.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Patrick said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    SeanT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Morning all.

    The single most important thing I did to reduce my heating bills was to insulate my house properly and eliminate as many draughts as possible. It has made a huge difference both to the bills and to our comfort.

    ...

    Boring, unglamorous, old-fashioned: yes but essential IMO.

    ...
    https://www.hivehome.com/

    It asks you - as you leave the house - do you want to turn your heating off, or down, or set it at 13C for 3 hours? It offers automatic frost protection. It saves £100s.

    I just got a hefty rebate from NPower - three figures - because after installing Hive my heating bills nosedived, and I had overpaid.
    Not boring at all. Interesting (to me anyway) because I have just been offered this by nPower and couldn't work out whether worth it or not. So thanks - will have another look.

    BTW - just to show how much draughts cost you - and what a difference two mild winters make - my combined monthly gas/electricity payments dropped by nearly four-fifths.

    It's definitely worth it. Here's a positive review (and I think they underplay the money-saving aspect). Hive and its cousins are also the future of heating, for sure: within 10 years all domestic central heating will be operated this way - might as well start now?

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gadgets/appliances/british-gas-hive-1266485/review
    For those looking to replace their boiler also very very much worth looking at the new Flow boilers. They generate electricity from your gas supply and heat water. Thermally this is alot more efficient than generating in a power station and transmitting the electricity long distances. The water is heated as a by-product of the power or as 'surge' demand when needed. Dramatic cuts to both gas AND ELECTRICITY bills.

    http://www.flowenergy.uk.com/
    Patrick may be right but I read - ''In effect the household gets a new money-making boiler for the cost of installation. (A typical boiler costs around £2,500.) But for the first five years Flow Energy keeps the feed-in tariffs (FITs) plus the electricity you generate. Only after that does it share the income 50-50 with the homeowner.''
    ''Unlike other manufacturers who offer more generous warranties, Flow’s boilers – manufactured in Scotland by a US firm called Jabil – only have a two-year warranty. ''

    Generating electricity is an advantage - but the 'payback' period for any modern traditional boiler usually kicks in just as it reaches the end of its life. Of course if your boiler has gone kaput then you need a new one...
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
    You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.
  • Some of you may have noticed, I put in the subtle pop music reference here and there.

    But I have nothing, on John Boehner, Speaker of the US House of Representatives.

    He's done a response to Obama's latest policy using Taylor Swift gifs

    http://www.speaker.gov/general/12-taylor-swift-reactions-president-obamas-free-college-idea

    Subtle?
    I'm as subtle as a brick through a window.
  • Felt a bit sorry for Chuka. Why should we expect our policians to have an instant response to everything?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Mr. Eagles, James Blunt always came across as a properly nice chap on his two Top Gear appearances.

    Mr. Crosby, that seems a weird thing to storm off over.

    James Blunt is a top egg.

    I've seen him live a few times.
    I think James Blunt's music is boring and rubbish but he stopped world war 3 from breaking out so he's alright in my book.
  • antifrank said:

    James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
    You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.
    I already have. (Is a story from last week) But I think it counts.

    Following on from the Bizarre Love Triangle involving Brooks Newmark, his todger and his cameraphone, the Tories have selected James Cleverly as their candidate to replace Brooks Newmark in Braintree.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,384

    How awesome

    Young Tories promised a holiday in Ibiza with Dave and SamCam if they knock on enough doors before election

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916765/Young-Tories-promised-holiday-Ibiza-Dave-SamCam-knock-doors-election.html

    Dave and Sam Cam going to Ibiza with Young Tories would have had the makings of a great NotW expose if Dreary Red hadn't had it shut down. :(
  • antifrank said:

    James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
    You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.
    You really need to have True Faith in TSE!
  • antifrank said:

    James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
    You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.
    You really need to have True Faith in TSE!
    Today is Blue Monday, the most depressing day of the year

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/19/blue-monday-most-depressing-day-year
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    More insight into Oxfam's approach to massaging the data. See second graph.

    https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/557146128349941761/photo/1

    Maybe they hired someone from the Lib Dems instead of from Labour?

    It is time to strip Oxfam of it's charitable status in the UK. It has become a joke of political agendas.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    antifrank said:

    James Blunt songs nighthawks please.

    Brilliantly angry letter.

    Is a toss up between New Order or James Blunt.
    You really need to find a political Bizarre Love Triangle in the next ten hours then.
    You really need to have True Faith in TSE!
    Today is Blue Monday, the most depressing day of the year

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jan/19/blue-monday-most-depressing-day-year
    I think May 7/8 will be more depressing for one of us TSE
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    My favourite New Order song is "Crystal"... does anybody know a bit of pop trivia associated with it..... ?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,347
    calum said:

    scotslass said:

    Mike

    I now have the chance to look at the Survation detail.

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Scottish-Attitudes-Jan.pdf

    There is no "cheer" of any kind for Labour in these figures small or otherwise. Just the opposite in fact. Here is just six of the best pointers.

    1) The survey was three days later than Panelbase ie 20 per cent SNP lead three days AFTER 10 per cent SNP lead.
    2) The SNP lead among women is now even higher than among men
    3) The geographical breakdown is disastrous for Labour. SNP leads everywhere but biggest swings in Glasgow and West Central Scotland (58 to 28!)
    4) Big SNP lead in North East suggests an "oil effect" if anything favourable to SNP
    5) SNP outpolls Liberals by 2-1 in Highlands , the only place Liberals have significant support
    6) SNP at 50 per cent for Scottish Parliament! In other words Labour under Murphy would get masssively less seats than the 2011 disaster under Ian Gray!

    There is much, much more in the detail and all of it good news for the SNP team.

    The lead among women is interesting, I think it reflects the fact that the SNP surge is being led by women - now 44% (pre-surge 33%), which is the highest % of any party. Not sure how this fits into Jim Murphy's lost 190,000 older male voters theory.

    Interestingly Survation identified the SNP surge 6 months ahead of the referendum, whereas most other pollsters didn't pick it up until post-ref. I think this might be due to Survation weighting regionally.

    Any observer in an A&E unit, or polis station, on an Old Firm night could give us a couple of reasons why women might respond poorly to Mr Murphy's footie-related initiatives. Alcohol at a footie match anybody? I don't know if the polling was done late enough to pick up on the full effect of the fitba offensive, though.

    TBF he may have a point about it being a class thing - but then the logical thing to do is to ban all alcohol from football stadia, even the directors' box.
  • Plato said:

    Big Bang relies on either being a geek or knowing them. Without that, it'd make little sense. Have you seen Boston Legal? William Shatner and James Spader are epic.

    SeanT said:

    Plato said:

    Sheldon is marvellous. Jim Parsons is a human marionette. A wonderful un pc show complete with Raj.

    CD13 said:

    Mr Eagles,

    As you say, whatever threads you put up, the 'others' will suspect they're being short changed.

    Many Labour people accuse the BBC of being rabidly right wing. We all have our biases, and despite what some people think, even scientists do.

    That's why some theories last longer than they should. Incidentally, string theory and M theory, beloved of Stephen Hawking, also seems to be drifting out of fashion. I can't follow the maths but it appears the concept of eleven dimensions and a multiverse may be losing popularity.

    Even 'Big Bang' the sitcom has the character Sheldon Cooper wanting to switch from it (and the script writers do receive advice from the theoretical physics experts).

    It's lasted thirty years and I thought it might linger as it's virtually impossible to prove it false. I may be an old fuddy-duddy, but I'd call that metaphysics. But it made things interesting for a while - the aim of many scientific theories.

    My GF loves Big Bang but I just don't get it. Didn't raise a single chuckle in me. I agree about 24 tho, it loses pace by season 3 or 4, and flails beyond that. As indeed do most TV dramas. It is virtually a law of scriptwriting. And it is the reason very very few dramas go beyond 5 seasons.

    As for the physics, my layman's understanding is that multiverse theory is still highly fashionable - almost verging on consensus. There may even be *evidence*.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2326869/Is-universe-merely-billions-Evidence-existence-multiverse-revealed-time-cosmic-map.html
    Had to Google to find out, but Bill Shatner does the voiceover for the "Bohemian Rhapsody" Thomson teddybear advert!

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMlGymb8jY
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