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It’s grim up North for Labour and the South isn’t any better – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,419
edited April 11 in General
It’s grim up North for Labour and the South isn’t any better – politicalbetting.com

If these results are a harbinger for next month’s locals then Labour and Sir Keir Starmer are going to going to to have a horrible night on the 1st of May.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,580
    edited April 11
    First?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,050
    She actually went on TV and said this...

    @atrupar.com‬

    Alina Habba: "We are following executive orders."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmkbrjf4q32c

    "An argument that didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremburg."
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,972
    edited April 11
    Second?
    No third.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,972
    Interesting and plausible evidence from David Pakman of a development in the USA turning to fascism; an attack on the circulation of books. Worth keeping an eye on:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtEymx55dnU
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,501
    algarkirk said:

    Second?

    At least TSE can count to one.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,501
    MPs recalled for emergency vote on British Steel
    Easter recess halted in order to pass bill taking assets into public control, with full nationalisation a possibility
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/11/parliament-recalled-to-discuss-british-steel-nationalisation
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,972
    edited April 11
    Nigelb said:

    algarkirk said:

    Second?

    At least TSE can count to one.
    He must have borrowed my copy of Principia Mathematica. Getting to two is quite a struggle without it.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,561
    edited April 11
    Longdendale is probably, by a smidgen, the Reformiest ward in Tameside.

    The couple of small stone Peak villages are very much dominated by Hattersley council estate, which was thoroughly WWC when I knew it.

    However, with plenty of other red wall wards, and a 20% lead here, it could be a happy hunting ground for Reform come 2026.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,214
    As I've said a few times, Starmer and Labour are very fortunate* that so few seats are up this year, and many of those that are don't have all that many Labour councillors to start with, so the headline losses won't look that bad - although Runcorn may take the primary media attention if Labour loses.

    * Labour has made quite a bit of its own luck there by postponing so many elections.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,501
    edited April 11
    One of the most conservative legal commentators in the US (former Scalia clerk), on the Supreme Court's El Salvador decision.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/some-observations-on-strong-supreme-court-ruling-requiring-trump-administration-to-facilitate-return-of-wrongly-deported-alien/
    ...Some observations:

    1. The Trump administration completely deserves this loss. As Justice Sotomayor points out in her separate opinion, the Trump administration’s position “implies that it could deport and incarcerate any person, including U. S. citizens, without legal consequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene.” (The fact that I am agreeing with Sotomayor signals how ludicrous DOJ’s position is.)

    2. The notion that the Trump administration could not readily secure Abrego Garcia’s return is difficult to take seriously. Are we really to believe that the “Art of the Deal” president has struck a deal with El Salvador that prevents him from obtaining the return of individuals that have been wrongly deported?

    3. Insofar as the district court’s order is (implausibly) interpreted to require President Trump to “effectuate” the return of Abrego Garcia by, say, threatening to break off diplomatic operations with El Salvador or ordering a military rescue, then it would not show “due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs.” But if the district court leaves it to the Trump administration to figure out the means and allows for the theoretical possibility that there might be no effective means available, it would be difficult to see any difficulty with the order.

    4. Contrary to the DOJ statement, the Supreme Court did not “recognize” that “it is the exclusive prerogative of the President to conduct foreign affairs.” Further, unless it is very narrowly construed, that proposition is not sound. To cite just a few examples: Congress has the authority to “declare War … and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water.” The Senate has the authority to approve or reject treaties. The Senate has the authority to confirm or reject the president’s nominees to be ambassadors. Congress has the authority to “regulate Commerce with foreign Nations.” Congress has the authority to make immigration laws. The federal courts have the authority to interpret treaties as well as all the laws that Congress enacts that bear on foreign affairs.

    As for the president’s non-exclusive power to conduct foreign affairs: That power has a core and a periphery. Dealing with a foreign country to serve as a prison contractor would sure seem to me to lie near the outer part of the periphery, if not entirely outside it...
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,823
    edited April 11
    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,639
    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    It's very hard to come up with a reason to vote Labour now apart from being the lesser of two evils, and that doesn't apply in byelections and locals.

    I expect Labour to get a battering, and the Tories too, with the byelection bad for Labour and the Locals horrible for the Tories.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,580
    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,059
    Parliament could have dealt with sooner but of course very good optics for No 10 to recall MPs.

    “It’s a race against time to save British Steel . “ Starmer finally getting to grips with politics !
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    tbh I cannot understand why Reform is standing for local councils. It can only end in tears. They should have waited for the general election.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,454
    Afternoon all :)

    Labour's "exposure" in three weeks time is nowhere near that of the Conservatives in terms of seats held and potential losses.

    On a quick count of the County Councils due to hold elections, the Conservatives will be defending 554 seats and Labour just 128 so it's the former with much more skin in the game and much more to lose.

    That's not to say it won't be a difficult night for Labour but in terms of counting the losses, I suspect the Conservatives will be doing more counting.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,580
    nico67 said:

    Parliament could have dealt with sooner but of course very good optics for No 10 to recall MPs.

    “It’s a race against time to save British Steel . “ Starmer finally getting to grips with politics !

    Socialism never ends well.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,483

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    What do you think will happen to the LibDem and Green numbers?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,823

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    What do you think will happen to the LibDem and Green numbers?
    Both will do well. LD councils broadly are well run and we've been picking up seats and with it councils. But these will be concentrated - I'd also expect some Green pockets to do well.

    The country is in ruins. The Tories are going to get smashed. Labour should have been well placed to pick up many seats but now they are the ones smashing things up.

    So everyone else will do very well.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144
    edited April 11

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    tbh I cannot understand why Reform is standing for local councils. It can only end in tears. They should have waited for the general election.
    They have to become more than a one issue party if they are serious about being in government.

    For better or worse they need to spend time pointing at potholes and tutting over planning applications.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144
    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,007
    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    I was just praying the the bees had been at work on my plum tree.. not that many seen so far this spring.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,969

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    The Reformers I know of, who are likely hoping to be parliamentary candidates next year in Scotland, all seem pretty unbiddable types with a high opinion of their own abilities not shared by anyone else. So, likely to end in tears, but not before they've been elected.

    The UKIP experience, when they won 7 seats in the Senedd, (Neil Hamilton, Mark Reckless, etc) is not a happy omen.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,639

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,214

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    The Reformers I know of, who are likely hoping to be parliamentary candidates next year in Scotland, all seem pretty unbiddable types with a high opinion of their own abilities not shared by anyone else. So, likely to end in tears, but not before they've been elected.

    The UKIP experience, when they won 7 seats in the Senedd, (Neil Hamilton, Mark Reckless, etc) is not a happy omen.
    And Hamilton and Reckless had been MPs before - albeit a very tainted one in the case of Hamilton.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,191
    Over 5000 people in the Oval today apparently. Long live county cricket!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,537
    Foxy said:

    nico67 said:

    Parliament could have dealt with sooner but of course very good optics for No 10 to recall MPs.

    “It’s a race against time to save British Steel . “ Starmer finally getting to grips with politics !

    Socialism never ends well.
    Privatising the steel industry not looking at great success either.
    Or water.
  • vikvik Posts: 247
    Leon said:


    What places are left without tourists?!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,214
    stodge said:

    Afternoon all :)

    Labour's "exposure" in three weeks time is nowhere near that of the Conservatives in terms of seats held and potential losses.

    On a quick count of the County Councils due to hold elections, the Conservatives will be defending 554 seats and Labour just 128 so it's the former with much more skin in the game and much more to lose.

    That's not to say it won't be a difficult night for Labour but in terms of counting the losses, I suspect the Conservatives will be doing more counting.

    Even the unitaries up this time are more Tory-inclined. The only Met with an election is Doncaster (which also has a mayoral race).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,501
    German manufacturer Rheinmetall is massively expanding its ammunition production.

    The production capacity of 155mm artillery shells will increase fifteenfold by 2027 compared to the level at the outbreak of the war in Ukraine in 2022. Production of 120 mm caliber ammunition for battle tanks will increase fourfold.

    It is also noted that at the new 155 mm ammunition factory in Unterluss, built in just 13 months, the first ammunition is expected to be produced as early as April-May 2025. The factory will eventually manufacture some 200,000 artillery shells a year.

    https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1910575502735057325
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,639
    vik said:

    Leon said:


    What places are left without tourists?!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

    Hah. I love those people. Long may they defy the world

    Ok now, in my little shepherds hut in the Saty valley of the lower Tien Shan - with excellent wifi - I’m going to watch the 2nd episode of White Lotus, which is perfect viewing on multiple levels
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,643
    algarkirk said:

    Interesting and plausible evidence from David Pakman of a development in the USA turning to fascism; an attack on the circulation of books. Worth keeping an eye on:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtEymx55dnU

    They're defunding libraries too.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,191
    As you may recall, following Brexit I panicked regarding the value of GBP, and at one point actually had $3000 in my back pocket as a reserve. In the following years I became more rational and set up a reserve of foreign currency, USD and EUR, to act as a cushion.

    So as you can imagine my reaction this week as the USD collapsed was (AARGH!) not good. But I neglected to check on EUR, and incredibly EUR has risen as fast as USD has fallen. Although I don't know how far down USD will go (I keep thinking I should buy USD around £1=$1.35), it appears that my EUR holding more than compensates, and it appears that I am £300 up on the past 10 days.

    Which is nice. :)

    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=1M
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=1M
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,643
    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,747
    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/creq99l218do

    Insubordination will not be tolerated..😏
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,191
    Cyclefree said:

    algarkirk said:

    Interesting and plausible evidence from David Pakman of a development in the USA turning to fascism; an attack on the circulation of books. Worth keeping an eye on:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtEymx55dnU

    They're defunding libraries too.
    I made that point with some force

    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5169245#Comment_5169245
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5169246#Comment_5169246
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5169256#Comment_5169256
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5169263#Comment_5169263
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,223

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Didnt he repeatedly promise to end the war in 1 day?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144
    edited April 11
    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    It's my flowering currant that they are busy on here, Ribes Sanguiniem, which is one of my favourite harbingers of spring with flowers that last 6 weeks. Its particularly glorious this season as is my Cheals Weeping cherry. My Amalanchier looks lovely too, but blink and you miss the blossom.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Didnt he repeatedly promise to end the war in 1 day?
    Yes, but did he say which day?
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,214

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Didnt he repeatedly promise to end the war in 1 day?
    Indeed. Currently 8000% over target. Which isn't quite as much as Putin (over 37000%) but he's catching up.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,717

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Perhaps he should apply some leverage then. Just a thought.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,697

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    What is he actually asking Russia to do and what does get moving mean?




  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,223
    Foxy said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Didnt he repeatedly promise to end the war in 1 day?
    Yes, but did he say which day?
    He did. Within 24 hours of taking his oath.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,191

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Didnt he repeatedly promise to end the war in 1 day?
    He meant a Venusian day

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus#Orbit_and_rotation
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,223
    eek said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    What is he actually asking Russia to do and what does get moving mean?




    Towards Kiev probably. And remember Trump was too chicken to serve when drafted.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,483

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    The Reformers I know of, who are likely hoping to be parliamentary candidates next year in Scotland, all seem pretty unbiddable types with a high opinion of their own abilities not shared by anyone else. So, likely to end in tears, but not before they've been elected.

    The UKIP experience, when they won 7 seats in the Senedd, (Neil Hamilton, Mark Reckless, etc) is not a happy omen.
    I remember the brexit party winners in the 2019 European election. What a bunch of weirdos. They earned a fair bunch of money slagging off the parliament they'd been elected to, now they are gbnews rejects and assorteds.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,636
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380
    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    If (if!) I ever get the keys to my new house in Gloucestershire, my dearest wish is to plant a damson tree. I love damsons and damson jam but they're incredibly hard to get hold of.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 119

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
    Having travelled all over the world my conclusion is Europe is the best continent. Good variety of scenery and some of the best cities in the world.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,435
    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar.com‬

    more law firms have just sold out to Trump

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmkhqymloc2z
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
    There was an American who missed Trump between his terms.

    The Secret Service stopped him taking another shot though.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,636
    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    If (if!) I ever get the keys to my new house in Gloucestershire, my dearest wish is to plant a damson tree. I love damsons and damson jam but they're incredibly hard to get hold of.
    You are moving to Gloucestershire? Where exactly?

    I require at least three months notice.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380
    edited April 11

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    If (if!) I ever get the keys to my new house in Gloucestershire, my dearest wish is to plant a damson tree. I love damsons and damson jam but they're incredibly hard to get hold of.
    You are moving to Gloucestershire? Where exactly?

    I require at least three months notice.
    Cam, near Dursley.

    I hope. My vendors are playing silly buggers at the moment and I am not happy with them.

    Three months sounds about right the way they've behaved over the last six.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,098
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
    There was an American who missed Trump between his terms.

    The Secret Service stopped him taking another shot though.
    I'm surprised by the lack of conspiracy theories about that. Trump's ear looks fine. Maybe they just reserve them to school shootings?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088
    Foxy said:

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    tbh I cannot understand why Reform is standing for local councils. It can only end in tears. They should have waited for the general election.
    They have to become more than a one issue party if they are serious about being in government.

    For better or worse they need to spend time pointing at potholes and tutting over planning applications.
    Reform is NOTA which means firstly that they do not need any track record, and secondly that there is little chance of their councillors agreeing about very much at all. There's no upside and a huge potential downside.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,034

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380
    Eabhal said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
    There was an American who missed Trump between his terms.

    The Secret Service stopped him taking another shot though.
    I'm surprised by the lack of conspiracy theories about that. Trump's ear looks fine. Maybe they just reserve them to school shootings?
    He was never in any danger. Going through his ear meant it was a good three feet away from his brain.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,144
    Bogota said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    North Korea, you’d love it.
    Trust me; it’s on my list

    Just seeing into it at the DMZ was creepy and exciting

    My problem is that I am an ardent traveller but I have now travelled most of the world

    Except Africa. Large chunks of Africa are unknown to me but I don’t have much desire to go. Because, Africa
    As a fairly seasoned traveller myself, Leon, may I suggest that you confine visits to places from which you are likely to return.

    Honestly, Sweetie, we'd miss you if you didn't.
    Having travelled all over the world my conclusion is Europe is the best continent. Good variety of scenery and some of the best cities in the world.
    I agree, and if I had to pick a single country then it would be the UK.

    If I had to pick a single other country to exile myself to it would be Italy.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 265
    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    Afghanistan?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,636
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    If (if!) I ever get the keys to my new house in Gloucestershire, my dearest wish is to plant a damson tree. I love damsons and damson jam but they're incredibly hard to get hold of.
    You are moving to Gloucestershire? Where exactly?

    I require at least three months notice.
    Cam, near Dursley.

    I hope. My vendors are playing silly buggers at the moment and I am not happy with them.

    Three months sounds about right the way they've behaved over the last six.
    Ah, the Deep South. That's ok. Beyond my exclusion zone.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,393

    Good afternoon all. Or is it Good evening?
    Anyway Mrs C and I are home now, courtesy of Eldest Granddaughter. Mrs C’s leg has been dressed and she’s been referred to the local surgery for re- dressing after the weekend, and that’s booked.
    Apparently no need for referral to the Plastics Unit.

    Thanks to all who expressed sympathy!

    Well done, Eldest Granddaughter.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,435
    Nunu3 said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    Afghanistan?
    USA?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459
    Nunu3 said:

    Leon said:

    The lakes of Tien Shan

    Pretty but also a tad touristy. As you can see

    What places are left without tourists?!



    Afghanistan?
    Nealy all places have no tourists.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459
    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Picking over the bones of the history of UK-US relations I think they've always been our enemy. The US has after all been the main force in wrecking our trade, destroying our manufacturing, and discrediting our reputation. You'd think it would have been the French, but no, it's the US.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 119
    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Remember its reality tv every day with Trump. We pay the price.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380
    Omnium said:

    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Picking over the bones of the history of UK-US relations I think they've always been our enemy. The US has after all been the main force in wrecking our trade, destroying our manufacturing, and discrediting our reputation. You'd think it would have been the French, but no, it's the US.
    The USA was created by the French. Without the aid of King Louis they would have lost.

    So we can still blame the French and avoid TSE spontaneously combusting.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,454

    Foxy said:

    I have been talking up the coming storm of Reform for literal years on here. They are going to smash Labour and the Tories up into little pieces next month - not everywhere, but that is a good thing for them and a bad thing for the other two as Reform's support has coalesced into hotspots.

    And after the election? The real fun begins. We are going to see some amazing people elected to councils. A selection of types
    Young and Outspoken - the world is broken and I will fix it
    Dave - why can't these [deleted] just be sent home
    Opportunist Middle Aged rider - Andrea Jenkyns et al riding Reform for their own personal reasons
    Gammony Fool - older, angrier, stupider

    Someone should open a book on what % of councillors elected in May have lost the whip by the end of the summer. It will be into double figures %

    tbh I cannot understand why Reform is standing for local councils. It can only end in tears. They should have waited for the general election.
    They have to become more than a one issue party if they are serious about being in government.

    For better or worse they need to spend time pointing at potholes and tutting over planning applications.
    Reform is NOTA which means firstly that they do not need any track record, and secondly that there is little chance of their councillors agreeing about very much at all. There's no upside and a huge potential downside.
    I've seen Farage has said he doesn't want any new Reform councillors elected on May 1st to go into joint administrations with any other party. The practicalities of governance are going to force the new cohort of Reform councillors to get their hands dirty.

    As an example, Kent - it seems likely the Conservatives will lose seats to Reform but they could also lose seats to the LDs and Greens leaving Reform short of an overall majority. If they are, however, the largest party on the new county council, what would the Reform caucus do?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459
    ydoethur said:

    Omnium said:

    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Picking over the bones of the history of UK-US relations I think they've always been our enemy. The US has after all been the main force in wrecking our trade, destroying our manufacturing, and discrediting our reputation. You'd think it would have been the French, but no, it's the US.
    The USA was created by the French. Without the aid of King Louis they would have lost.

    So we can still blame the French and avoid TSE spontaneously combusting.
    I rather like fireworks - and if odd but expensive shoes are distributed randomly about London then who's to grumble. (The very odd traces of McWhittys emergency Hawaiian pizza can, I think, be discounted)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,380
    Bugger. Mr Sandpaper is out.

    Admittedly having scored 163.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459
    ydoethur said:

    Omnium said:

    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Picking over the bones of the history of UK-US relations I think they've always been our enemy. The US has after all been the main force in wrecking our trade, destroying our manufacturing, and discrediting our reputation. You'd think it would have been the French, but no, it's the US.
    The USA was created by the French. Without the aid of King Louis they would have lost.

    So we can still blame the French and avoid TSE spontaneously combusting.
    The French forces in the war of Independence were rubbish though weren't they?

    France has of course fielded the most magnificent armies - Agincourt, Crecy, Waterloo - amazing legendary warriors all round.. but not British.

    Magnificent naval prowess too... ok so nobody will buy that.

    Air? They had the biggest airforce in the world once. As Gene Hackman would say Gerrmans!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,732
    Omnium said:

    OllyT said:

    Trump tries to move the news cycle back to the war in Ukraine:

    https://x.com/trump_repost/status/1910728548434010244

    Russia has to get moving. Too many people ere DYING, thousands a week, in a terrible and senseless war - A war that should have never happened, and wouldn't have happened, if I were President!!!

    Moving the news cycle back to Ukraine simply serves to remind everyone that Trump is in Putin's pocket and that he and Vance despise their former NATO allies.

    Just reinforces how much the US is now our enemy in foreign policy as well as trade.
    Picking over the bones of the history of UK-US relations I think they've always been our enemy. The US has after all been the main force in wrecking our trade, destroying our manufacturing, and discrediting our reputation. You'd think it would have been the French, but no, it's the US.
    They have rather. The US had invasion plans of the British Empire even into the 1930s (when Britain had recovered pretty powerfully from WW1 and was still very much a competitor). It was only after WW2 when we became more of a US satrapy (US bases, foreign policy geared toward US interests in exchange for post-war funding, locked into a US-led NATO system) that they dropped it.

    Ironically, I don't actually think DT really follows in this vein. He wants his pound of flesh, but he doesn't discriminate.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,639
    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088
    Batman and Robin costumed police make arrests

    Two Metropolitan Police officers have gone undercover in unconventional fashion by dressing as Batman and Robin to tackle illegal gambling on Westminster Bridge.

    They donned the unusual uniforms to target suspects familiar with their usual patrols, the Met said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5yg6q0861ro (10-second video included)
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,617

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar.com‬

    more law firms have just sold out to Trump

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmkhqymloc2z

    This is gross corruption. I mean, I know there’s plenty of malfeasance going on with Trump and it can be easy to miss another example, but what we have here is private companies threatened by government action into giving free work to Trump.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088
    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,617

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    Would this be the Telegraph selectively quoting something out of context, like every other time?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,732
    edited April 11

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    I'm just going to say it - sack these judges. Having to recruit a new judge is less costly and divisive than the outcomes of the decisions that these Britain-haters are inflicting on us. Even the ECHR does not to my knowledge protect our right not to be stressed.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    I'm just going to say it - sack these judges. Having to recruit a new judge is less costly and divisive than the outcomes of the decisions that these Britain-haters are inflicting on us. Even the ECHR does not to my knowledge protect our right not to be stressed.
    Deport the judges too if they're so daft. Actually I think deporting the judge is more important than deporting the scumbag.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088
    edited April 11
    Five surprising wine and ice cream pairings
    ...
    • The classic: PX sherry with vanilla
    • Surprise red wine pairing: Pinot noir with chocolate and cherry
    • Fruity sweet wine with fruit: Spätlese riesling with peach melba
    • Dairy and tawny: Tawny port with millionaire’s ice cream
    • French twist: Sauternes with coconut ice cream
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/wine/wine-and-ice-cream-pairings/ (£££)

    PB needs its own food, wine and travel correspondent.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,098

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    I'm just going to say it - sack these judges. Having to recruit a new judge is less costly and divisive than the outcomes of the decisions that these Britain-haters are inflicting on us. Even the ECHR does not to my knowledge protect our right not to be stressed.
    Lazy. Dangerous.

    If you're going to change something like this, have the courage to put it to Parliament and legislate accordingly.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,560
    Foxy said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Foxy said:

    Sitting in my garden in the gorgeous spring sun I am encouraged to see some many insects about. It was a silent and very damp spring last year.

    Lots of bees here too. They like purple flowers apparently.

    I am going to try growing apricots. The lemons, fig and orange trees have done ok so far. I've now acquired a cherry tree as well.
    It's my flowering currant that they are busy on here, Ribes Sanguiniem, which is one of my favourite harbingers of spring with flowers that last 6 weeks. Its particularly glorious this season as is my Cheals Weeping cherry. My Amalanchier looks lovely too, but blink and you miss the blossom.
    We also have an amelanchier. We call it the tree that flowers for five minutes.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,612

    Five surprising wine and ice cream pairings
    ...

    The classic: PX sherry with vanilla
    Surprise red wine pairing: Pinot noir with chocolate and cherry
    Fruity sweet wine with fruit: Spätlese riesling with peach melba
    Dairy and tawny: Tawny port with millionaire’s ice cream
    French twist: Sauternes with coconut ice cream

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/wine/wine-and-ice-cream-pairings/ (£££)

    PB needs its own food, wine and travel correspondent.

    Cointreau in chocolate milk-shake is quite like drinking a creamy Terry's Chocolate Orange.

    I've been told.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    Would this be the Telegraph selectively quoting something out of context, like every other time?
    Perhaps. But since Britain is the best country in the world, it follows that anyone deported or refused entry is being sent to a worse place.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,393
    Leon said:

    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc

    Maybe some magazine would offer a lucrative commission which might be very persuasive.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,612
    Leon said:

    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc

    I have never been - but tangentially (and I hope the mods give you a break for being asked a direct question) - have you seen the new LLM models from the SLX lab in Cairo? At least they are laying claim to them.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,459
    AnneJGP said:

    Leon said:

    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc

    Maybe some magazine would offer a lucrative commission which might be very persuasive.
    Whizzer and Chips doesn't have the budget for such things now.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,435
    Leon said:

    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc

    Camus writes movingly (often) of Algeria.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,204
    Apple doing well today. Must be a great time lined up for Indian production.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,435
    Some good news for a change. Well in my opinion anyway.

    Philip Collins
    @PhilipJCollins1
    ·
    1h
    For anyone who once really liked The Times you might like the new incarnation of The Observer. I am going to join soon and that's where I will be doing my writing.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,469
    edited April 11

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    I'm just going to say it - sack these judges. Having to recruit a new judge is less costly and divisive than the outcomes of the decisions that these Britain-haters are inflicting on us. Even the ECHR does not to my knowledge protect our right not to be stressed.
    They are just acting as recruiting seargents for Reform.

    Who they presumably hate with a passion.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,823
    Very excited. We've recorded the first episode of our forthcoming YouTube politics channel. Can't tell you what its called as need to register the name - which came out of that pilot episode...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,088
    Omnium said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Leon said:

    Can someone persuade me that central and west Africa are worth visiting? And the more Islamy parts of North Africa?

    Because that would open up 2/3 of a continent I’ve never seen (I’ve seen south and east Africa, and Ethiopia, Egypt and Morocco - ie the good bits)

    The trouble is when anyone I trust goes to central/west/Islamy Africa they come back saying Hmm, yeah, not great, I had one decent curry, etc

    Maybe some magazine would offer a lucrative commission which might be very persuasive.
    Whizzer and Chips doesn't have the budget for such things now.
    Any excuse to post the Prime Minister's press conference from Little Britain!
    Roy Sloane, Whizzer and Chips: Are you concerned you've lost your strongest ally in the Cabinet?
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d9CQRinbxLo
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,732
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    Eabhal said:

    Deporting migrant would ‘stress’ him out, judge rules
    ...
    A Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided deportation after a judge ruled that returning him to his home country would cause him too much “stress”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/11/deporting-migrant-would-stress-him-out-judge-rules/ (£££)

    I'm just going to say it - sack these judges. Having to recruit a new judge is less costly and divisive than the outcomes of the decisions that these Britain-haters are inflicting on us. Even the ECHR does not to my knowledge protect our right not to be stressed.
    Lazy. Dangerous.

    If you're going to change something like this, have the courage to put it to Parliament and legislate accordingly.
    Sure. We can (and should, and will in my opinion) remove the Human Rights Act and leave the ECHR. But that will not decalcify the judiciary from a culture that seeks deliberately to undermine social cohesion, make a mockery of border security, and excuse lawlessness. A culture that has also taken hold within the police force and probably in every other public body that you care to name.
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