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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,408
    I mentioned xmas being cancelled in the USA the other day on PB.

    And here we are...


    Reuters
    @Reuters
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    1h
    US retailers are almost completely reliant on China for Christmas decorations; sourcing 87% of their goods here. But Chinese producers said that orders from US clients have slowed as both sides are cautious about the risk of rising import tariffs https://reut.rs/43MVcFS
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,318

    Oblique as it was a subtle humblebrag.
    Is that your new angle?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,242
    Bogota said:

    Hes going to ban vaccines isnt he.

    RFK Jr: "By September we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we will be able to eliminate those exposures."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1910385387614146987

    Here you go: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12632/w12632.pdf

    It's correlation based, but seems plausible.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,044
    Andy_JS said:

    "Woman in her 40s airlifted to hospital with 'life-changing' injuries after 'being mauled by XL Bully' at home"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14596597/Woman-airlifted-hospital-life-changing-injuries-mauled-XL-Bully.html

    These dogs should be totally banned , removed from their owners and put down . I’m sick of these stupid owners whining about XL bullies being misunderstood or wouldn’t hurt a fly .
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,254
    Ratters said:

    No, I wouldn't be. Learning times table by heart would just mean I can calculate things marginally quicker. The hard part of proper maths problems is the logic behind it, not the numerical processing.

    I think it's better to have the tools to quickly calculate different sums. I would calculate 13 x 15 the same way as I would 283 x 15. By quickly breaking down each sum into solvable parts. You still get to the result in seconds.

    I think that is a far more valuable thing to learn than memorising a set number of multiplications by rote.
    I never advocated learning tables by rote

    I always teach people tools to calculate them
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,113
    ydoethur said:

    Is that your new angle?
    Are you just being obtuse?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,160
    ...
    isam said:

    Well Starmer introduced the subject I think, and it has followed from there - Badenoch being repeatedly asked whether she has watched it, and kind of attacked when she said she hasn't. It appears that in the media's eyes she is now the bad guy for not having watched it, which seems a bit much
    Nick Ferrari (I know! Nick Ferrari) was surprised she hadn't made the effort to see it when toxic masculinity was a particularly hot topic. I don't think the fact she didn't watch it is as much of an issue as the use of extreme right wing propaganda to justify why she didn't watch it.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,388
    Foxy said:

    This is the Gallup polling:


    that's well out from the Morning Consult poll. There could give findoutnow a run for their money
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,046
    @jimsciutto

    Bond yields, the dollar and global stocks are an antidote to the Trump reality distortion field. Unlike election fraud or condoms to Gaza and the like, he can’t create numbers out of thin air. When money is on the line, if investors don’t believe him, they will sell.

    https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1910430540890857873
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,242
    Ratters said:

    No, I wouldn't be. Learning times table by heart would just mean I can calculate things marginally quicker. The hard part of proper maths problems is the logic behind it, not the numerical processing.

    I think it's better to have the tools to quickly calculate different sums. I would calculate 13 x 15 the same way as I would 283 x 15. By quickly breaking down each sum into solvable parts. You still get to the result in seconds.

    I think that is a far more valuable thing to learn than memorising a set number of multiplications by rote.
    Indeed: it also helps you understand how maths works.

    When I was teaching my son maths, I really focused on him understanding that 17 is (1 x 10, and 1 x 7), because that is the very essence of our mathematics, and I only reallyunderstood it much later in life.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,697
    MattW said:

    Here's a short review of the shuttle bus on the Silvertown Tunnel by a mate who videoblogs, who is ... yes they exist ... a traffic sign designer. It is an add on to a longer vid about the Silvertown Tunnel. He has a bit of the Les Dawson's about him:
    https://youtu.be/7UQ3SZJuw88?t=558

    TLDR: it's an abortion, and a sticky plaster.

    They have done things like only have one wheelchair ramp, not two - so you can't wheel on, then off, and have to turn round on the bus. Or alternatively reverse down a narrow ramp with no side rails, which is very steep because the bus can't lower its floor and extend the ramp at the same time.

    it's all in the detail, and all the detail is all wrong. This and more is just normal TFL standards.

    Here's the assessment by Wheels for Wellbeing. TLDR is 'Unsafe, don't use unless you use a normal cycle as your mobility aid and have enough mobility/strength to be able to pick it up.'

    https://wheelsforwellbeing.org.uk/tfl-silvertown-tunnel-cycle-bus-wfw-comments-on-access/

    There are underlying issues such as the design standard still being the 1990s "reference wheelchair", which research back ~2020 showed excluded 1/3 of wheelchairs, and since when there has been a rush to force in e-buses without updating the standards with easy changes.

    But mainly it's an utter fuckup on this scheme. From their £2.2bn budget they could not find a working answer.

    (Update: Hmmm. Wonders about practicality of mobiliety aid users using the Superloop Bus for this segment.)
    Out of interest, what is the maximum amount that should be spent to make a scheme like this fully wheelchair/disabled-friendly
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,708
    https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/1910388089610207360

    "China retaliated today by reducing the number of American films that can be shown there. What's your reaction to them now targeting cultural exports?"

    @POTUS: "I've heard of worse things." 🤣
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,242
    Roger said:

    that's well out from the Morning Consult poll. There could give findoutnow a run for their money
    The Nate Silver polling average is -to my mind- the Gold Standard

    https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,697

    The most valuable human asset is the one
    who does what you want without any input or control on your part.
    A bit like a Romba then… trundling around the house spitting out dirt?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,558
    edited April 10

    Same, and in my case a year early for both, too.

    #sadclaimtofame
    I was such a geek those years, I was so happy when I did a full A-Level course in less than a year.

    My final Further Maths exam was the most stressful experience of my life, final A-Level exam ever, 3 hrs, Q1 worth 50 marks, and Q2 & Q3 worth 25 marks each, I was planning on spending 90 mins on Q1, after 60 mins I thought I was on track, next time I locked at the clock, I was 150 mins into the exam and had just finished Q1.

    Raced through Qs 2 & 3 and spent the summer worrying I had screwed up my grades and wouldn't get into my first choice university.

    Still managed an A overall.

    It was the last time I was ever plagued by self doubt.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582
    rcs1000 said:

    At least it was a short interview.
    Sadly not. So desperate are unis for bums on seats that we just make a note ‘May need maths support’ and accept!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,516

    https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/1910388089610207360

    "China retaliated today by reducing the number of American films that can be shown there. What's your reaction to them now targeting cultural exports?"

    @POTUS: "I've heard of worse things." 🤣

    London has hundreds of Chinese-built (BYD) buses in service, or about to be, but no American-built ones.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,113

    ...

    Nick Ferrari (I know! Nick Ferrari) was surprised she hadn't made the effort to see it when toxic masculinity was a particularly hot topic. I don't think the fact she didn't watch it is as much of an issue as the use of extreme right wing propaganda to justify why she didn't watch it.
    A better response would have been:

    "No, I haven't seen Adolescence, but have seen enough misogyny over the years to be familiar enough with the issues. It's up to schools how they frame such subjects to their students, just as it is with other important subjects like Islamic extremism, gang culture and other social issues."
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,697
    Cicero said:

    Americans may need to have vaccination certificates in order to travel. We should not let this mindless idiocy become a threat to our own public health.
    It’s not an area of much interest to me, but I thought it was in-group breeding magnifying certain traits.

    Basically science nerds can now find each other and mate…
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,113
    Roger said:

    that's well out from the Morning Consult poll. There could give findoutnow a run for their money
    This chart is a few weeks out of date, but the trend is clear.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,242
    My daughter nailed the 0 and 1 times tables by time she was three.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 828

    ‘As used by Pinochet’s secret police’
    Would that be a Peanut Sheller? I'll get my coat
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 119

    I was such a geek those years, I was so happy when I did a full A-Level course in less than a year.

    My final Further Maths exam was the most stressful experience of my life, final A-Level exam ever, 3 hrs, Q1 worth 50 marks, and Q2 & Q3 worth 25 marks each, I was planning on spending 90 mins on Q1, after 60 mins I thought I was on track, next time I locked at the clock, I was 130 mins into the exam and had just finished Q1.

    Raced through Qs 2 & 3 and spent the summer worrying I had screwed up my grades and wouldn't get into my first choice university.

    Still managed an A overall.

    It was the last time I was ever plagued by self doubt.
    I always though id aced my Maths A level after i had done it but there is always that element of doubt until the results come through in August.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,347
    Scott_xP said:

    @jimsciutto

    Bond yields, the dollar and global stocks are an antidote to the Trump reality distortion field. Unlike election fraud or condoms to Gaza and the like, he can’t create numbers out of thin air. When money is on the line, if investors don’t believe him, they will sell.

    https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1910430540890857873

    Wasn't there a suggestion that Trump wants to have Whitehouse approved economic statistics in case things turn south? It probably sounds like a good idea to him, but the people with money will not play ball.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,382

    If you can't do basic arithmetic then you can't work out when you've made a key entry error in your calculator for a more complicated calculation. And that's when things get dangerous, because it ends with the wrong dosage being given by orders of magnitude, or a building that can't support its own weight.
    Bring back the slide rule!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,278
    edited April 10
    Memory and knowledge/understanding/method are pretty much one and the same thing in my opinion. The idea that you can do anything much without using memory doesn't really make sense.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,777
    Foxy said:

    A better response would have been:

    "No, I haven't seen Adolescence, but have seen enough misogyny over the years to be familiar enough with the issues. It's up to schools how they frame such subjects to their students, just as it is with other important subjects like Islamic extremism, gang culture and other social issues."
    That would have been fine! Surely the issue politically for Badenoch is this - she's claiming that its had the race changed for woke reasons. Hasn't seen it, but wants to use it as a stick to beat the government with.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,652

    I mentioned xmas being cancelled in the USA the other day on PB.

    And here we are...


    Reuters
    @Reuters
    ·
    1h
    US retailers are almost completely reliant on China for Christmas decorations; sourcing 87% of their goods here. But Chinese producers said that orders from US clients have slowed as both sides are cautious about the risk of rising import tariffs https://reut.rs/43MVcFS

    One just sends the children to bring down the tatty cardboard box from the loft and takes the cotton wool off the baubles, and patches up one's late great aunt's paper chains from '38 n'est-ce pas? Consumerism gone mad innit.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,046
    glw said:

    Wasn't there a suggestion that Trump wants to have Whitehouse approved economic statistics in case things turn south? It probably sounds like a good idea to him, but the people with money will not play ball.
    Trump just wants to be loved...

    https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1910302381289398508
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,831
    edited April 10

    A lesson sadly ignored or forgotten within just a few short years by (1) the Empire again and then (2) the First Order. #lazyscriptwriting
    *GEEK ALERT*

    The problem was, in the original version of "The Star Wars" the Death Star didn't appear until the third act (which is basically what we now know as Return of the Jedi)

    When Lucas had to cut the story down and the first act become A New Hope, he decided to take the Death Star from act three and move it into act one.

    But now you have a problem. How do you "top" the Death Star that you've already used as the climax to your first act in your final act?

    Hence, Death Star II.

    As for the First Order, that's another issue as the Sequel Trilogy is SWINO (Star Wars In Name Only) IMO and I have no interest in it.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759
    Pagan2 said:

    This is part of today's problems....download the app to your phone.....how about we just don't take a phone everywhere and interact
    When I leave the house, I'm 99% certain to have my wallet - and therefore my clubcard with me. But only about 75% certain to have a working phone with me.

    I also don't really want tobe downoading someone else's software onto my phone. Once, you only needed three apps - one for phoning, one for texting and one for exploring the internet. That's all I want and all I need.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,148
    ...

  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,697
    ydoethur said:

    Is that your new angle?
    No, he’s triangulating
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,652
    Cookie said:

    When I leave the house, I'm 99% certain to have my wallet - and therefore my clubcard with me. But only about 75% certain to have a working phone with me.

    I also don't really want tobe downoading someone else's software onto my phone. Once, you only needed three apps - one for phoning, one for texting and one for exploring the internet. That's all I want and all I need.
    They used to, and maybe still do provide little keychain fobs with your barcode on:



    Bit tacky, though.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266

    No, he’s triangulating
    A very acute observation
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,148
    Foxy said:

    Are you just being obtuse?
    Ah. Cute.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,477

    That's a truly pathetic admission

    Learn your times tables, then teach them to someone else

    You'll be a better mathematician and person by doing so
    Utter, utter utter nonsense. Someone with mathematical ability doesn't need to learn times tables. What is the point?. People who learn by rote usually can't work outside of those parameters or implement in a different scenario. Sure if you don't have that ability learn them, but otherwise it is pointless. I can never do arithmetic on combinations of numbers up to 180 that a darts player can do, but on any other problem I will be better than 99% of them. What is special about multiplication upto 12x12, but nothing else. Why learn just hat by rote. What is better is to teach people how to work stuff out. I have come across so many people who know how to solve a problem they have been taught, but can't solve a different problem which in essence is identical, because they have been taught by rote and not why they are doing what they are doing.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,442
    Bogota said:

    Hes going to ban vaccines isnt he.

    RFK Jr: "By September we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we will be able to eliminate those exposures."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1910385387614146987

    “This is another example of Kennedy being an ignoramus about vaccination, if not other things as well. And you can quote me on that,” said Stanley Plotkin, a co-developer of the rotavirus vaccine and of the vaccine that protects against rubella. Plotkin is a professor emeritus at the University of Pennsylvania.
    https://x.com/adamfeuerstein/status/1910435131745329551

  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726
    Cookie said:

    When I leave the house, I'm 99% certain to have my wallet - and therefore my clubcard with me. But only about 75% certain to have a working phone with me.

    I also don't really want tobe downoading someone else's software onto my phone. Once, you only needed three apps - one for phoning, one for texting and one for exploring the internet. That's all I want and all I need.
    My phone has no apps on it nor does it leave my desk unless I have to go away for work reasons
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    edited April 10
    Cookie said:

    When I leave the house, I'm 99% certain to have my wallet - and therefore my clubcard with me. But only about 75% certain to have a working phone with me.

    I also don't really want tobe downoading someone else's software onto my phone. Once, you only needed three apps - one for phoning, one for texting and one for exploring the internet. That's all I want and all I need.
    Your choice but I suspect you're cutting yourself off from the future.

    I spend a lot of time helping people, generally over-75, who have chosen not to join in to the PC/Internet/Smartphone world but who now find themselves digitally excluded. I often wonder whether I will decline to use something that will place me at a similar disadvantage in the future - hopefully not.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,477

    I never advocated learning tables by rote

    I always teach people tools to calculate them
    You did. You said people should learn their times tables. When I said I hadn't but had a maths degree you presumably didn't assume I couldn't work out 7x6 did you? Of course I can. I just don't know it from memory.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    Pagan2 said:

    My phone has no apps on it nor does it leave my desk unless I have to go away for work reasons
    Yeah, I had one of those back in the 70s.

    image
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726

    Your choice but I suspect you're cutting yourself off from the future.

    I spend a lot of time helping people, generally over-75, who have chosen not to join in to the PC/Internet/Smartphone world but who now find themselves digitally excluded. I often wonder whether I will decline to use something that will place me at a similar disadvantage in the future.
    Consider this as I am not what you would call a luddite by any means in fact a bit of a geek

    If we all adopt cashless
    Everything accessed via apps etc

    We are in effect forcing others to do the same.

    These maybe people who are unbanked, they maybe people who cant afford a smartphone. Personally I feel we have a responsibility to ensure such people who cannot join the new tech society whether because of cost or tech disconnect. As time goes by those figures will fall and when the time is right all fine but it is not yet in my view
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 48
    edited April 10
    kjh said:

    Utter, utter utter nonsense. Someone with mathematical ability doesn't need to learn times tables. What is the point?. People who learn by rote usually can't work outside of those parameters or implement in a different scenario. Sure if you don't have that ability learn them, but otherwise it is pointless. I can never do arithmetic on combinations of numbers up to 180 that a darts player can do, but on any other problem I will be better than 99% of them. What is special about multiplication upto 12x12, but nothing else. Why learn just hat by rote. What is better is to teach people how to work stuff out. I have come across so many people who know how to solve a problem they have been taught, but can't solve a different problem which in essence is identical, because they have been taught by rote and not why they are doing what they are doing.
    Darts is great for arithmetic.

    Re. times tables, it's fine to learn them up to wherever you want. But it's even better to work stuff out. Here's an example. Say you want to multiply two numbers between 10 and 20. Call them 1m and 1n.

    All you have to do is this.

    1. Lose a 1 and imagine yourself a little map of Africa, like this:

    1m
    _n

    2. Perform an addition in yer 'ead, to get T.

    3. Take 10T and add on m times n.

    4. That's your answer.

    Example

    _17
    x14

    Steps 1-2: 21
    Steps 3-4: 210 + 28 = 238. Ta-dah!

    As for multiplying a number less than 10 with a number between 10 and 20, anyone who can't do that in their 'ead is a bit dim.

    So adding together not being dim with the above rule, anyone can do any product up to 20 x 20.


  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582

    Your choice but I suspect you're cutting yourself off from the future.

    I spend a lot of time helping people, generally over-75, who have chosen not to join in to the PC/Internet/Smartphone world but who now find themselves digitally excluded. I often wonder whether I will decline to use something that will place me at a similar disadvantage in the future - hopefully not.
    We lost my mum last year. She had looked after the online stuff for her and my dad, things like booking tickets for the rugby, flights etc. When she died dad decided to get rid of all the ‘internet stuff’. I’m a bit sad for him as there is much out there that he would enjoy, but he is set in his ways at 85.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726

    Yeah, I had one of those back in the 70s.

    image
    Serious question here so please dont dismiss it

    If requiring cashless and phone apps for everything what portion of the populace would you be happy to exclude to make it happen?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582
    Pagan2 said:

    My phone has no apps on it nor does it leave my desk unless I have to go away for work reasons
    A few years ago we took the mother in law to Yorkshire for a holiday. One day we became separated. Hunted high and low but in the end decided to return to the car. No answer on her mobile.
    Because the bloody thing was back at the holiday cottage. I mean, why would you need a mobile phone…
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759

    Your choice but I suspect you're cutting yourself off from the future.

    I spend a lot of time helping people, generally over-75, who have chosen not to join in to the PC/Internet/Smartphone world but who now find themselves digitally excluded. I often wonder whether I will decline to use something that will place me at a similar disadvantage in the future - hopefully not.
    I think there is a natural tendency to think, in terms of tech 'but life is fine now!'. Beyond that point, the advantages of being able to do the new thing no longer appear to outweigh the disadvantages. For me, that point was reached in the very early days of internet enabled mobile phones. Anything you need to download a specific app to do - well, it's a password to remember, it's something to port over to your new phone, it's a programme on a device which follows you around not to trust. I don't want not to be able to turn my lights on because I can't remember my password.
    There is not one app - beyond an internet explorer proxy - I use that I do not use reluctantly.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726

    A few years ago we took the mother in law to Yorkshire for a holiday. One day we became separated. Hunted high and low but in the end decided to return to the car. No answer on her mobile.
    Because the bloody thing was back at the holiday cottage. I mean, why would you need a mobile phone…
    What woould you have done before mobile phones. Sorry the reason I don't carry mine is precisely because if I go out I don't want people ringing me constantly. I won't out to do something not answer random phone calls I didn't actually want and if I go out to a pub with a friend and they start to spend more time answering calls and texts I say.....we will go out when you are less busy and leave because that is what a mobile phone seems to mean to most.

    Lets go out but I will ignore you for my phone most of the time and if thats the case then they can fuck off
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,046
    Cookie said:

    There is not one app - beyond an internet explorer proxy - I use that I do not use reluctantly.

    How do you pay bills?

    Are you still putting cheques in the post?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,442
    The Japanese ambassador is a gem.

    I’m enjoying the Manchester Tart !! 👍
    https://x.com/AmbJapanUK/status/1909717906524450903
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759
    carnforth said:

    They used to, and maybe still do provide little keychain fobs with your barcode on:



    Bit tacky, though.
    Tesco is fine. My clubcard lives in my wallet. Sainsburys is more of a PITA, because to access most of the nectar vouchers you need it in your phone. Though I do have a dummy Nectar card for when I don't have my phone - no points but I can access the discounts.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726
    Scott_xP said:

    How do you pay bills?

    Are you still putting cheques in the post?
    Most use the internet....just don't need a phone app I am connected to 24/7....most bills for a start are monthly
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 48
    edited April 10
    Pagan2 said:

    Serious question here so please dont dismiss it

    If requiring cashless and phone apps for everything what portion of the populace would you be happy to exclude to make it happen?
    It would be good if there were a law against discriminating against people not carrying one of those wretched devices.

    Although I was thinking this afternoon what the advice should be to a non-twatstick user who goes somewhere where there's a lot of street stickup crime, where the usual advice is when you see a gun pointed at you, hand over your wallet, bank cards, and phone. E.g. Brazil and many other places. The advice might be to carry a twatstick so you can hand it over, because the stickup merchant might not believe you if you were to say "Steady on, old chepp, I'd examine my assumptions if I were you."
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759
    Pagan2 said:

    Most use the internet....just don't need a phone app I am connected to 24/7....most bills for a start are monthly
    Yes, me too - I bank online but when I am sat at a computer. No-one needs paying that instantly. Or if they do, First Direct still answer the phone.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582
    Pagan2 said:

    What woould you have done before mobile phones. Sorry the reason I don't carry mine is precisely because if I go out I don't want people ringing me constantly. I won't out to do something not answer random phone calls I didn't actually want and if I go out to a pub with a friend and they start to spend more time answering calls and texts I say.....we will go out when you are less busy and leave because that is what a mobile phone seems to mean to most.

    Lets go out but I will ignore you for my phone most of the time and if thats the case then they can fuck off
    I’m old enough to remember going out and meeting up before mobile phones. I was hold out against them for quite a while. And you do have a point about people using them when in company.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    Pagan2 said:

    Consider this as I am not what you would call a luddite by any means in fact a bit of a geek

    If we all adopt cashless
    Everything accessed via apps etc

    We are in effect forcing others to do the same.

    These maybe people who are unbanked, they maybe people who cant afford a smartphone. Personally I feel we have a responsibility to ensure such people who cannot join the new tech society whether because of cost or tech disconnect. As time goes by those figures will fall and when the time is right all fine but it is not yet in my view
    I'm all for supporting those who genuinely cannot adopt cashless but I don't think refusing to adopt it myself will hold back the tide. Of course if enough did refuse it would be effective but that's never going to happening and me personally resisting would be like Canute trying to stop the tide.

    Better to encourage and support those who are a bit scared of tech to adopt it imo.

    My 93 yo father-in-law has never touched a computer or mobile phone in his life and never will now but boy does it piss him off how excluded that leaves him. Not a day goes past without him moaning about how unfair it is that everything's switched to apps/online etc.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,708
    Cicero said:

    Americans may need to have vaccination certificates in order to travel. We should not let this mindless idiocy become a threat to our own public health.
    It would be ridiculous to single out Americans when we've been putting public health at risk by letting unscreened people into the country for years.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,278
    Another helicopter crash in the US. Awful news.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726

    I’m old enough to remember going out and meeting up before mobile phones. I was hold out against them for quite a while. And you do have a point about people using them when in company.
    There have been more than one person I used to know that I have parted company with due to going out for a few pints with them and them spending more time on the phone than chatting and just said you know what forget it
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 48
    edited April 10
    Pagan2 said:

    Most use the internet....just don't need a phone app I am connected to 24/7....most bills for a start are monthly
    I use Payzone, Paypoint, sometimes the post office. Internet usually for council tax. Never direct debit ever.

    Fun fact: Wechat won't allow Chinese citizens in China to use it unless they link it to their bank account.
    carnforth said:

    They used to, and maybe still do provide little keychain fobs with your barcode on:



    Bit tacky, though.
    Cool kids cut out the square with the QR code on it and only carry that.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,284
    glw said:

    Wasn't there a suggestion that Trump wants to have Whitehouse approved economic statistics in case things turn south? It probably sounds like a good idea to him, but the people with money will not play ball.
    Ooh like doing a budget but not letting the OBR give forecasts on its impact.

    Nothing could possibly go wrong.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,347
    Ratters said:

    Ooh like doing a budget but not letting the OBR give forecasts on its impact.

    Nothing could possibly go wrong.
    IIRC the suggestion was that they might have Trump approved GDP and inflation figures. "You might think everything seems more expensive but inflation is down. The economy is booming, those factories didn't close, the workers all decided to retire early."
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759
    I also still listen to music on an ipod, which I load with music using a laptop and a usb connection.
    Because tech truly was absolutely fine in 2008.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,726

    I'm all for supporting those who genuinely cannot adopt cashless but I don't think refusing to adopt it myself will hold back the tide. Of course if enough did refuse it would be effective but that's never going to happening and me personally resisting would be like Canute trying to stop the tide.

    Better to encourage and support those who are a bit scared of tech to adopt it imo.

    My 93 yo father-in-law has never touched a computer or mobile phone in his life and never will now but boy does it piss him off how excluded that leaves him. Not a day goes past without him moaning about how unfair it is that everything's switched to apps/online etc.
    Countries that were far ahead of us on cashless adoption are now realising complete cashless is a bad idea for security reasons such as sweden....maybe we should pay attention
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,477
    College said:

    Darts is great for arithmetic.

    Re. times tables, it's fine to learn them up to wherever you want. But it's even better to work stuff out. Here's an example. Say you want to multiply two numbers between 10 and 20. Call them 1m and 1n.

    All you have to do is this.

    1. Lose a 1 and imagine yourself a little map of Africa, like this:

    1m
    _n

    2. Perform an addition in yer 'ead, to get T.

    3. Take 10T and add on m times n.

    4. That's your answer.

    Example

    _17
    x14

    Steps 1-2: 21
    Steps 3-4: 210 + 28 = 238. Ta-dah!

    As for multiplying a number less than 10 with a number between 10 and 20, anyone who can't do that in their 'ead is a bit dim.

    So adding together not being dim with the above rule, anyone can do any product up to 20 x 20.


    Agree. I can work out any multiplication upto 15x15 as @BlancheLivermore wants and much higher even, in my head. Why the hell should I memorise them as per 'Old School' maths seems to require. Spend more time teaching actual useful maths and less time memorising stuff that is very limited in its usefulness.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,252
    The elder Cuomo once said "You campaign in poetry. You govern in prose."

    He was wrong, of course: You should, mostly, campaign in prose, and, on many subjects, govern in numbers. For example: Should elected officials in the UK watch a striking story on TV, or should they look at the look at trends in crime?

    They can do both, and should if they have time, but if they are considering what policy changes to make, they should spend most of their time with the numbers.

    Naturally, good politicians will illustrate their arguments to the public, with stories.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    edited April 10
    Cookie said:

    Yes, me too - I bank online but when I am sat at a computer. No-one needs paying that instantly. Or if they do, First Direct still answer the phone.
    Some top apps I've started using in the past year:

    - Passenger Assist. for booking ramps, wheelchair spaces, assistance etc. on trains. Works like a dream, a simple but brilliant app.
    - Reolink. Alerts from a 4G solar-powered camera at our building plot whenever anything moves on it.
    - HMRC app - surprisingly good.

    Others I've been using longer, I wouldn't be without:

    - Safari, Mail, Contacts, Notes, Wallet, Maps, Home, Camera
    - Halifax bank - quicker and better than than online banking via a browser
    - Met Office - still the best UK forecasts
    - Waitrose: use your phone to scan as you shop, better than their in-house scanners.

    I confess I do have a lot of crap apps on my phone I have only used once or twice and need to get rid of though.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,252
    Question on eVtols: Would they require less investment in infrastructure than rail or road transport? (It seems to me that they would, but I have seen no numbers on the question.)
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,576
    Pagan2 said:

    What woould you have done before mobile phones. Sorry the reason I don't carry mine is precisely because if I go out I don't want people ringing me constantly. I won't out to do something not answer random phone calls I didn't actually want and if I go out to a pub with a friend and they start to spend more time answering calls and texts I say.....we will go out when you are less busy and leave because that is what a mobile phone seems to mean to most.

    Lets go out but I will ignore you for my phone most of the time and if thats the case then they can fuck off
    People hardly ever ring me. If they do, and I'm busy they can leave a voicemail. Texts can be answered tomorrow.

    I take a mobile phone with me because it is a useful portable computer. I can do most of my basic computing jobs on it, access the Internet, pay bills, book holidays, find out where I am and how to get home, and keep in touch with people
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,442
    Police raid barbers and vape shops suspected of being fronts for crime gangs
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3677xzk56no
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,278
    Cookie said:

    I think there is a natural tendency to think, in terms of tech 'but life is fine now!'. Beyond that point, the advantages of being able to do the new thing no longer appear to outweigh the disadvantages. For me, that point was reached in the very early days of internet enabled mobile phones. Anything you need to download a specific app to do - well, it's a password to remember, it's something to port over to your new phone, it's a programme on a device which follows you around not to trust. I don't want not to be able to turn my lights on because I can't remember my password.
    There is not one app - beyond an internet explorer proxy - I use that I do not use reluctantly.
    I don't use apps at all, unless applications on laptops are now being called apps as well.
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 48
    Pagan2 said:

    What woould you have done before mobile phones. Sorry the reason I don't carry mine is precisely because if I go out I don't want people ringing me constantly. I won't out to do something not answer random phone calls I didn't actually want and if I go out to a pub with a friend and they start to spend more time answering calls and texts I say.....we will go out when you are less busy and leave because that is what a mobile phone seems to mean to most.

    Lets go out but I will ignore you for my phone most of the time and if thats the case then they can fuck off
    I recently had a go at someone who when I asked her why on earth she had a Kindle, replied that she wanted it so she could read stuff when waiting for medical appointments. She is a classic case of someone who's been lowballed. She has a medical appointment about 3-4 times a year.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    Pagan2 said:

    Serious question here so please dont dismiss it

    If requiring cashless and phone apps for everything what portion of the populace would you be happy to exclude to make it happen?
    Zero. 0% But I'm not really a cashless society advocate - I just don't use it myself.

    I think it's better to encourage and help people to get on board themselves if they can rather than resist generally beneficial change myself.

    UC has probably been the largest driver of increased IT adoption in recent years. It's very difficult to claim without a smartphone or PC.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082

    Any Russians surviving their foray into the meatgrinder have the real prospect of going to a war crimes trial.

    Who'd be a Russian soldier in Putin's 2025 army?
    Before, after and during various investigations and trials of British military personnel, there are always complaints.

    I say weaponise the idea.

    Form a special legal unit, whose only job is to prosecute the Kings enemies. Forever.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082

    Adolescence has a 15 certificate.
    So showing it to sub 15 would be a safeguarding breach?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,759
    Nigelb said:

    Police raid barbers and vape shops suspected of being fronts for crime gangs
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3677xzk56no

    Nigelb said:

    Police raid barbers and vape shops suspected of being fronts for crime gangs
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3677xzk56no

    There is a street in North Manchester on which every unit is a vape shop. There are about 50 of them.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266

    People hardly ever ring me. If they do, and I'm busy they can leave a voicemail. Texts can be answered tomorrow.

    I take a mobile phone with me because it is a useful portable computer. I can do most of my basic computing jobs on it, access the Internet, pay bills, book holidays, find out where I am and how to get home, and keep in touch with people
    Spot on
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 119
    Cookie said:

    I also still listen to music on an ipod, which I load with music using a laptop and a usb connection.
    Because tech truly was absolutely fine in 2008.

    Tech developments since 2008 have arguably made life worse. For example without social media i dont think we would have seen the rise of Trump. The smartphone has ruined many nights out as people no longer live in the moment.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    Bogota said:

    Tech developments since 2008 have arguably made life worse. For example without social media i dont think we would have seen the rise of Trump. The smartphone has ruined many nights out as people no longer live in the moment.
    Some friends have tried the following. Get a Nokia £10 phone. Swap the sim over.

    So the kids/babysitter can contact you, but no smartphone…
  • isamisam Posts: 41,217
    edited April 10
    These pylons are going to be very close to where I live. The natives are pretty restless!

    I was surprised to see that a poll showed people would consider £250 a year off their electricity bills sufficient compensation; myself and a few mates all agreed we’d each happily pay a grand a year extra to not have the pylons built

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2vvgjjvgmo
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 637
    Nigelb said:

    The Japanese ambassador is a gem.

    I’m enjoying the Manchester Tart !! 👍
    https://x.com/AmbJapanUK/status/1909717906524450903

    The Brand Director of this Bank got his revenge on leaving
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,242
    edited April 10
    College said:

    I use Payzone, Paypoint, sometimes the post office. Internet usually for council tax. Never direct debit ever.

    Fun fact: Wechat won't allow Chinese citizens in China to use it unless they link it to their bank account. Cool kids cut out the square with the QR code on it and only carry that.
    The coolest kids get their tesco clubcard QR code tattooed in the middle of their forehead.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,603

    People hardly ever ring me. If they do, and I'm busy they can leave a voicemail. Texts can be answered tomorrow.

    I take a mobile phone with me because it is a useful portable computer. I can do most of my basic computing jobs on it, access the Internet, pay bills, book holidays, find out where I am and how to get home, and keep in touch with people
    Similarly here. My 'phone' is still a somewhat resented 'expensive iPod' for me however.

    Once a week it tells me I spend 20-30 minutes a day on it - most of which is my podcast app or the kodi-remote app to skip through TV shows.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582
    Nigelb said:

    Police raid barbers and vape shops suspected of being fronts for crime gangs
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3677xzk56no

    Whatever made them think that these numerous yet frequently unfrequented establishments might be a cover for something nefarious?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,044
    According to the Times the 10% tariff could remain on the UK even if there’s a deal and the government is now trying to just get the tariff reduced on cars .

    If this really is true then it’s a total humiliation for no 10.

  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,576
    College said:

    I recently had a go at someone who when I asked her why on earth she had a Kindle, replied that she wanted it so she could read stuff when waiting for medical appointments. She is a classic case of someone who's been lowballed. She has a medical appointment about 3-4 times a year.
    That's something else you can do on a mobile phone, especially if infrequently - if you read ebooks often, I suppose you might prefer something bigger.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,582
    College said:

    I recently had a go at someone who when I asked her why on earth she had a Kindle, replied that she wanted it so she could read stuff when waiting for medical appointments. She is a classic case of someone who's been lowballed. She has a medical appointment about 3-4 times a year.
    I love my kindle. For boring reasons my two year old still sleeps in our room and the kindle means I can read under the duvet like a naughty10 year old, but without the torch.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,046
    @politico

    Trump is upending his trade team.

    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is now taking the lead, with Peter Navarro sidelined and Howard Lutnick recast as the "bad cop."

    https://x.com/politico/status/1910415079423554015

    @maitlis

    This is significant. Gives us a first glimpse of who controlled the events of the last 48 hours. Bessent was critical in talking Trump down from his tariff ledge. And Navarro was over ruled - and is now paying the political price ..

    https://x.com/maitlis/status/1910452908593942887
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,652
    edited April 10
    nico67 said:

    According to the Times the 10% tariff could remain on the UK even if there’s a deal and the government is now trying to just get the tariff reduced on cars .

    If this really is true then it’s a total humiliation for no 10.

    Why? If Trump really means it when he says 10% is permanent everyone will be in the same boat.

    Only a humiliation if we get worse terms than others.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,160
    Scott_xP said:

    @politico

    Trump is upending his trade team.

    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is now taking the lead, with Peter Navarro sidelined and Howard Lutnick recast as the "bad cop."

    https://x.com/politico/status/1910415079423554015

    @maitlis

    This is significant. Gives us a first glimpse of who controlled the events of the last 48 hours. Bessent was critical in talking Trump down from his tariff ledge. And Navarro was over ruled - and is now paying the political price ..

    https://x.com/maitlis/status/1910452908593942887

    I wonder what Ron Vara thinks of this?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,217
    rcs1000 said:

    The coolest kids get their tesco clubcard QR code tattooed in the middle of their forehead.
    When they're fifteen... at Alton Towers!
  • isamisam Posts: 41,217
    edited April 10

    ...

    I would think TV as a trigger highly unlikely. My eldest lad demonstrated peculiar traits from a very, very young age. When he started crawling he crawled backwards and at this point getting himself out of corners was nigh on impossible. He was noticeably different from similarly aged children including his brother.

    The debilitating element of the condition was social interaction. He was viewed as weird from aged around two and a half by his peers. That continues today. Communication skills including speech and language were slow and not because he was glued to the Teletubbies. Throughout his life he has focused on a particular interest, and I mean focused. It is the only focus in the moment. Firstly it was Thomas the Tank Engine, apparently young autistic boys relate to the faces on the engines (toys, books and on screen). There is certainly a marked neurodiversity about him. He thinks differently to others, and it was notable before he started watching Bob the Builder. He's quite smart, he has a 2:1 programming degree, although he didn't do well at GCSEs and got where he is today via a BTec route, but he only reads stuff that is of interest to him (he passed his driving theory test on the second attempt and a practical driving test on the first) and his general knowledge is shockingly poor. He doesn't assimilate information well but can function well using routine. He is rules based so he meticulously adheres to speed limits and he is unnaturally polite. He is learning Japanese at evening classes. He is different, well different and not just "a bit peculiar"!

    So why the burgeoning rates of autism diagnosis? Now I am sceptical when Leon claims, for example, Theresa May is "on the spectrum" because she is "awkward". There is more to it than that, although perhaps over diagnosing awkward people as neurodiverse is an issue that should be looked at and avoided. Sometimes naughty boys are just naughty, and pinning it on ADHD and/or autism is simply a handy hook to hang it on. Perhaps in that instance they watched too much TV.
    I have to agree. It strikes me as a bit of an insult to people with autism that it is used use it as a label for anyone who is a bit geeky, clever or socially awkward. Anyone who gets impatient in a queue or reading a book calls says they have ADHD. Does it work the other way? I suppose those who are confident or arrogant are called psychopaths readily enough.

    "over diagnosing awkward people as neurodiverse is an issue that should be looked at and avoided" couldn't agree more
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,200

    Whatever made them think that these numerous yet frequently unfrequented establishments might be a cover for something nefarious?
    Unlike the previous administration Labour will take law and order a bit more seriously.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220
    edited April 10
    carnforth said:

    Why? If Trump really means it when he says 10% is permanent everyone will be in the same boat.

    Only a humiliation if we get worse terms than others.
    Bit of an embarrassment for the ‘Only 10% is a massive validation of Brexit!’ lads, mind.
    A week is a long time etc.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,160
    isam said:

    I have to agree. It strikes me as a bit of an insult to people with autism that it is used use it as a label for anyone who is a bit geeky, clever or socially awkward. Anyone who gets impatient in a queue or reading a book calls says they have ADHD. Does it work the other way? I suppose those who are confident or arrogant are called psychopaths readily enough.

    "over diagnosing awkward people as neurodiverse is an issue that should be looked at and avoided" couldn't agree more
    I am going to be controversial here. Genuine autism is not to be "celebrated" or seen as a "superpower", it is f****** horrible to watch someone you love struggle through life because their brain is wired up differently to the rest of us. I'm really looking forward to RFK's cure, but I am not holding my breath.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,590

    It would be ridiculous to single out Americans when we've been putting public health at risk by letting unscreened people into the country for years.
    Trump keeps singling out other countries for ill treatment. Why can’t we do the same?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,044
    carnforth said:

    Why? If Trump really means it when he says 10% is permanent everyone will be in the same boat.

    Only a humiliation if we get worse terms than others.
    After all that begging for scraps and the unedifying fawning at the WH by Starmer and the sum total is 10% tariffs . It’s a total embarrassment for no 10 and we’re still going to be subjected to two visits from Trump where there will be more gimp like behaviour .
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