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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    kinabalu said:

    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
    Eaglebalu
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    ydoethur said:

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    Takes one to know one.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Thelakes said:

    Time to get a job at mcdonalds.

    BREAKING: President Trump & RFK Jr. are planning to fire up to 5,200 federal employees today across the health agencies, including the NIH, CDC, etc.

    https://x.com/realdogeusa/status/1890484617817239823

    So expanding fast food and obesity while cutting agency workers trying to improve public health? Very Trump
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Thelakes said:

    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
  • kinabalu said:

    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
    False equivalence.

    A phrase trotted out when faced with an inconvenient fact.

    And the Hunter Biden pardon is both a fact and inconvenient.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    MattW said:

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Good reply to rory stewart this.
    You have spent your entire adult life as a delusional arrogant condescending arsehead. Wrong on every major political decision this millenium. You think you're right because you only speak to similarly vacuous knownothings who applaud you as leader of their tribe of obnoxious arsebreaths.
    11:29 AM · Feb 15, 2025
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    https://x.com/BurnsideWasTosh/status/1890725082127093804
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Nigelb said:

    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
    I certainly ignore your laughable contributions.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    Scott_xP said:

    Posting only for the unintentionally hilarious photo

    https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1890731100747530467

    Near and far away?

    Is she Foreign Secretary now? I just can't keep up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    Takes one to know one.
    So you are able to identify him but the rest of us must just guess?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Thelakes said:

    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
    Better than Tommy
  • Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    ydoethur said:

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    ...and an enormous wan...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    I certainly ignore your laughable contributions.
    You've just responded to someone by saying you are ignoring them.

    By definition, that is a logical impossibility. It's as nonsensical a paradox as Putin maintaining an erection with a woman.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Better than Tommy
    I like her educated english accent. Of course not all the uk sees her as such sadly.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
  • boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    "Join the Mobile Infantry and save the Galaxy. Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?"

    :lol:
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Better than Tommy
    Is the tory party justva bunch of cucks.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,124
    Barnesian said:

    It wasn't the report from the preliminary investigation. It was the whistle blower's original complaint that the BBC saw.

    What did these 20 people say? "Sorry. I don't remember anything about this". Could be anything.
    It’s absolutely astonishing the BBC is reporting on this.
    This looks like a witch-hunt.

    The HR Business Partner for her division is on record to say there was nothing going on, FFS.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,966
    Thelakes said:

    I like her educated english accent. Of course not all the uk sees her as such sadly.
    Why do your ilk always drop on a Saturday?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
    There goes your paranoia again.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Thelakes said:

    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    So still a comfortable majority even if we do need to improve the birthrate
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    Amazing facts:

    As late as 2020 the US government was still paying a pension to the daughter of a US Civil War Veteran;

    John Tyler still has one living grandson (the next presidents with living grandchildren are Taft and Franklin D. Roosevelt).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    Not sure it stinks any more than any other politics. Dobbing in Johnson for his parties during lockdown?

    The only important questions are, were the allegations true and, if they were, were they serious enough to make the targets position untenable?

    In the case of Johnson this seems to be a clear yes to both questions.

    In the case of Reeves, I have seen it posted on here and reported in the Times, without apparent challenge, that the whistleblower's claims were found to be substantially true, even if it didn't get to disciplinary action because she left.

    So the only question that really then matters is whether they were serious enough to merit removing Reeves from her current position.

    I don't know the answer to that one. It is more politics and public mood than a fact based decision.

    But to claim it 'stinks' seems to be excusing any sort of bad behaviour no matter how severe simply on the grounds that you don't like whistleblowers.
    Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113
    Thelakes said:

    There goes your paranoia again.
    I'm not quite sure how you make that conclusion from my factual statement...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    I'm not quite sure how you make that conclusion from my factual statement...
    He did say 'it takes one to know one' and then described a number of people as 'morons.'

    Maybe that's a line of enquiry?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    So still a comfortable majority even if we do need to improve the birthrate
    It will be lower now. 56 % is not a comfortable majority. The tories did this
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,124
    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.
  • Nigelb said:

    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
    Absolutely
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    Well, the Republicans have been busy interfering in US elections and they did say they wanted new products for export.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
    Mr cryptic arrives. Thinks it makes him sound intelligent. Hes just a blagger really wink wink.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,222
    Nigelb said:

    That's indeed your right.
    But would it represent any change from how you treated her at the last election ?
    Now I'd have better reason...

    (To be fair, I waited to see how she performed in office before treating her with the now deserved total disdain. The dodgy CV makes little difference when set beside her actual job performance.)
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    edited February 15

    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    Indeedy-doody.



  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Trump hangs his own mugshot outside the oval office.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1890611074371666223
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,222

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    edited February 15

    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    No, I just humiliate you. Again and again and again

    I can see why you want me banned. Again
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    Are you saying it would be Heily dangerous?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    It could be a siegnificant issue in the campaign.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
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    MattW said:

    Indeedy-doody.



    Is there a category for the Pisco Sour soaked?

    Asking for a friend.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,966
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    The best feeling isnt it.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    No, I just humiliate you. Again and again and again

    I can see why you want me banned. Again
    Right about the ukraine war when all pb was in favour of continuing the pointless conflict.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551
    ydoethur said:

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    Sounds like a wanker
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    edited February 15
    IanB2 said:

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic drivel.
    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    IanB2 said:

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
    Ummmmm...that's not the most unselfaware comment I've ever seen, but that's only because I heard Amanda Spielman say the reason she kept being criticised was that people weren't open to accepting legitimate criticism.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    How many of these are there alleged to be?

    The sort of error that could be done easily by one of Musk's script kiddies in a hurry would be reading the partner date for a young widow still alive in old age.

    Extreme eg Helen Viola Jackson the last USA Civil War widow died in 2020, when her husband had been born in 1843. There will be parallel cases in all sorts of circumstances. 1843 to 2020 is 177 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,008

    The sovereign bases in Cyprus are very similar to the Chagos situation, but they occurred before the UN declaration that is the basis of the ruling that this was illegal, whereas Chagos was later. That makes the Cyprus case much weaker.

    The Falklands is a different case. The Chagos case has no direct relevance.
    Are you under estimating how gaming the system is a professional industry?
    that how standing up for bits of British colonialism is UK versus rest of the world with no allies, not even UKs own Attorney General?
    That for Putin merely sponsoring these type of attacks on us, victory for Moscow isn’t we lose Cyprus base, that’s merely cherry on cake, but the money, time, effort, resources, and distraction it costs us defending ourselves?
    and Chagos deal is a starting gun for yet more such mayhem to commence?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,487
    ydoethur said:

    Perhaps that's the plan.

    Kill off all the oldies and smart people.

    And then leave Elon and his latest squeeze to repopulate the continental area with Ze Master Race.
    Didn’t Pol Pot try that?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Right off to the gym now so long. And if rcs wants to ban me tell me i really admire the way he blagged his way into goldman sachs with a 2 2 in philosophy. Kudos.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,966
    Thelakes said:

    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
    Says our latest troll that I have just outed, above.

    On Monday you will be back to sending photos of Russian beauties to foolish western men.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,487

    What do they do on Saturday afternoons?
    They go to Con Home, but nobody’s noticed yet.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,571
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    The best feeling isnt it.
    This love-in between you two is very odd. I always assumed the Kremlin made their approaches in a clandestine fashion.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Think goldman sachs normally requires 2 1s minimum but hey ho.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    I mean who the fuck flagged this

    LOL!

    The Quintessence of Tragic
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    maxh said:

    This love-in between you two is very odd. I always assumed the Kremlin made their approaches in a clandestine fashion.
    Particularly since gay sex is a crime in Russia, so they have to keep it very private.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551
    @mattsheffield

    Trump and his handlers are malignant children with flamethrowers. They know nothing and hate everything.

    Co-president Elon Musk's DOGE Dummies accidentally fired the people in charge of America's nuclear weapons, and had to walk the terminations back.

    https://x.com/mattsheffield/status/1890634454231650776
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,222
    IanB2 said:

    Says our latest troll that I have just outed, above.

    On Monday you will be back to sending photos of Russian beauties to foolish western men.
    On Monday he'll be off to the front in a meat wave.

    Bye.
  • Scott_xP said:

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,008
    Leon said:

    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


    Quim for me, if there’s some going. It’s been soooooo long. 🥺

    And I started drinking hours before you on my day off.

    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,226
    Boulay asked: "Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?"

    Here's the US program: https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

    There are some stats at the site, including countries of origin.

    (If there have been any great scandals in the program, I have missed them.)

    For what it is worth, native Americans are disproportionately likely to join our armed services.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?

    I didn't ask

    The CCN headline for the nuclear inspectors is "fired"

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295

    Quim for me, if there’s some going. It’s been soooooo long. 🥺

    And I started drinking hours before you on my day off.

    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
    Gin After Gym, Except Before Quim

    … is actually a rule invented by my then wife, the 21 year old Corbynite beauty (now a 29 year old raging Farageiste!)

    She noticed that after the gym I got a surge of testosterone, and she didn’t want me wasting it on the Hendricks, she wanted it for herself, to be pleasured thereby. However, if she was not in the mood for sex (rare, but it happened) then I was allowed to go straight to the bottle, after my workout

    GIN AFTER GYM, EXCEPT BEFORE QUIM

    She was very wise for one so young

    As I am skipping the stews tonight, I am having a G&T in Invite, on soi 8, feel free to join
  • ydoethur said:

    Amazing facts:

    As late as 2020 the US government was still paying a pension to the daughter of a US Civil War Veteran;

    John Tyler still has one living grandson (the next presidents with living grandchildren are Taft and Franklin D. Roosevelt).
    “My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Oliver Cromwell—and liked him well.”

    The setting for the article was 1999 but the remark was made in 1923 by a 91 year old who had been born in 1832. At the age of 16 she had married an 80 year old man named Henry. Sixty four years earlier, in 1784, the young Henry had, for obscure reasons, married an 82 year old woman. Her first marriage had been in 1720 and was to an 80 year old who had served Cromwell before his death in 1658!


    https://www.charlesholloway.co.uk/2010/09/a-theory-of-relativity/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    edited February 15
    ydoethur said:

    Particularly since gay sex is a crime in Russia, so they have to keep it very private.
    No, sex between consenting same sex couples is legal in Russia but promotion of homosexuality is illegal and same sex couples do not have the legal protections opposite sex couples do
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    Because one hand does not know what the other is doing, and/or one hand cares for the legal niceties, and one hand does not?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    It will be lower now. 56 % is not a comfortable majority. The tories did this
    More New Labour but the low birthrate in the UK of the British born is as big an issue, which also needs more child benefit etc
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    edited February 15
    HYUFD said:

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    Difference between career US Civil Service - virtually impossible to fire - and contractors, who have varying terms of service. Some contractors can be terminated with no notice.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    MattW said:

    How many of these are there alleged to be?

    The sort of error that could be done easily by one of Musk's script kiddies in a hurry would be reading the partner date for a young widow still alive in old age.

    Extreme eg Helen Viola Jackson the last USA Civil War widow died in 2020, when her husband had been born in 1843. There will be parallel cases in all sorts of circumstances. 1843 to 2020 is 177 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century
    It's simpler than that. If there is no known date of birth COBOL defaults to 1875. The point is to flag it to someone who knows what they are looking at.

    https://bsky.app/profile/pbump.com/post/3li5daxur322v
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,612
    Leon said:

    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?
  • Scott_xP said:

    I didn't ask

    The CCN headline for the nuclear inspectors is "fired"

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html
    So they were supposedly 'fired' and then the 'firing' was rescinded.

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    All this, including the media reports, taking only a few hours.

    Doubtless an odd way to be conducting affairs but the exaggerated and emotive reporting only adds to the confusion.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295

    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?

    Probably self identification, as used by the Home Office and the rest of HMG
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,342
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    Foxy said:

    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
    They've had 3% of the workforce sign up, allegedly, to an agreement which has no flexibility on their side, and the offer which can be withdrawn at will.

    And the agreement is illegal under several US laws (eg "Administrative Leave" is capped at 9 days per annum, not "6 months").

    But that's just the same as perhaps 99% or more of what Musk has done - illegal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT848djz4jA
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,222

    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
    Here's a Forest fan hoping so!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,014
    Leon said:

    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    s.
  • Scott_xP said:

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
    This line from the CNN article sounds more decisive than "you may be at risk";

    all NNSA employees whose access to the agency’s network and internal IT systems was shut off would be turned back on, one source told CNN.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    Vance told them that they should legalise it, same way his admin legalised gunmen storming the legislature to annul a democratic vote.
  • Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
    I was holding off that accusation as I believe Barnesian is a long suffering Lib Dem and I am taking his opening comment about not liking Reeves at face value.

    I don't think this is party bias just a rather blindly positive view of politicians as a whole.

    It's easier for me as I think they are all inherently scumbags.
  • Foxy said:

    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
    They'd be extremely stupid not to pay.

    The resulting court cases would cost more.

    And the loss of goodwill among the rest of the government workforce would cost far, far more.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 623
    Thelakes said:

    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    Wonder where this statistic is from? Because of the various changes (at least 10) to the Immigration Acts in the past 30 years, it would be difficult to look at a baby and decide if it is British or not. You would have to know the precise status of the parents and whether they were British automatically, or were working towards Citizenship or has ILR. All I can assume is that when asked the question, an answer is given which may or may not be legally sound.

    Anyway good to see there are more 'British' births as the UK will be needing them. All you need is love, or in Musk's case a test tube.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    Sean_F said:

    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
    So maybe white BRITISH is the discrepancy? Or is the original claim bollocks?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,342
    Leon said:

    So maybe white BRITISH is the discrepancy? Or is the original claim bollocks?
    A huge number of white people have European or Irish ancestry. Since 2000, the categories of ethnic groups have also expanded enormously.

    There’s also a growing number of mixed-race children, too.
  • Scott_xP said:

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
    The story is all emotive froth until it is known how many people have lost their jobs, what they do and how much it has cost the government.

    Filling the media with emotive froth meanwhile plays into Trump's hands.
  • WinchyWinchy Posts: 130
    Leon said:

    Probably self identification, as used by the Home Office and the rest of HMG
    What would you prefer - a pencil test?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)
  • WinchyWinchy Posts: 130
    Battlebus said:

    Wonder where this statistic is from? Because of the various changes (at least 10) to the Immigration Acts in the past 30 years, it would be difficult to look at a baby and decide if it is British or not. You would have to know the precise status of the parents and whether they were British automatically, or were working towards Citizenship or has ILR. All I can assume is that when asked the question, an answer is given which may or may not be legally sound.

    Anyway good to see there are more 'British' births as the UK will be needing them. All you need is love, or in Musk's case a test tube.
    What is this I keep hearing about Musk and IVF? Is he sex phobic??
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,124
    Winchy said:

    What is this I keep hearing about Musk and IVF? Is he sex phobic??
    It’s more efficient, I presume?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    Sean_F said:

    A huge number of white people have European or Irish ancestry. Since 2000, the categories of ethnic groups have also expanded enormously.

    There’s also a growing number of mixed-race children, too.

    I just checked. I think the stat is legit. It is a catastrophe in the making, and very very sad

    It’s one reason I travel so much, to be brutally honest. I can’t bear to see what is happening to my country. it’s like leaving a friend with some terminal cancer, better to have the memory of what was, than see what is

    And before everyone has conniptions, I favour immigration. You need it to keep genetic variety and cultural dynamism. in moderation it is a really GOOD thing. But we are far beyond “moderation” now
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,124
    Winchy said:

    What would you prefer - a pencil test?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)
    I have thick, Celtic curls.
    Think the actor John C Reilly or similar.

    I would have failed the pencil test.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,728
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE

    Stacking a dishwasher is much harder than gyrating in the middle of an empty room for a humanoid robot.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 623
    Leon said:

    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE

    Been around for about 20 years and this is all the progress they've made....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYAthiROTGM
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