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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    kinabalu said:

    OllyT said:

    On DOGE teenagers and their website:


    "Security clearance lawyer Bradley Moss posted: “If you’re a clearance holder, stay away from the DOGE site. These ignorant virgins are going to find themselves prosecuted for violating the Espionage Act before all is said and done.” "

    Heather Cox Richardson email

    They won't care because they know they will be pardoned by Trump before he leaves office.

    The pardoning of those convicted of Jan 6th offences gave a clear signal that it's OK to break the law provided it is done in the interests of Donald Trump. Musk will do whatever he pleases knowing that he is practically immune from legal prosecution.

    The ability of Presidents to pardon people convicted of criminal acts is one of the most ludicrous aspects of the US political system. In the wrong hands it simply encourages criminality without consequences which is what I believe we are going to see over the next 4 years
    Among Biden's many failings was pardoning Hunter.

    Trump will do what suits Trump.

    But the Dems have lost any claim to the moral high ground.
    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
    Eaglebalu
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    Thelakes said:

    Thelakes said:

    And now this.

    BREAKING: The IRS is gearing up to fire thousands of federal workers as soon as next week, according to the New York Times.



    The revelation comes one day after DOGE workers were reportedly unleashed on the Internal Revenue Service.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1890509162427404782

    Will DOGE axe the IRS workers investigating tech bro squillionaires and New York property developers?
    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    Takes one to know one.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    Thelakes said:

    Time to get a job at mcdonalds.

    BREAKING: President Trump & RFK Jr. are planning to fire up to 5,200 federal employees today across the health agencies, including the NIH, CDC, etc.

    https://x.com/realdogeusa/status/1890484617817239823

    So expanding fast food and obesity while cutting agency workers trying to improve public health? Very Trump
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
  • kinabalu said:

    OllyT said:

    On DOGE teenagers and their website:


    "Security clearance lawyer Bradley Moss posted: “If you’re a clearance holder, stay away from the DOGE site. These ignorant virgins are going to find themselves prosecuted for violating the Espionage Act before all is said and done.” "

    Heather Cox Richardson email

    They won't care because they know they will be pardoned by Trump before he leaves office.

    The pardoning of those convicted of Jan 6th offences gave a clear signal that it's OK to break the law provided it is done in the interests of Donald Trump. Musk will do whatever he pleases knowing that he is practically immune from legal prosecution.

    The ability of Presidents to pardon people convicted of criminal acts is one of the most ludicrous aspects of the US political system. In the wrong hands it simply encourages criminality without consequences which is what I believe we are going to see over the next 4 years
    Among Biden's many failings was pardoning Hunter.

    Trump will do what suits Trump.

    But the Dems have lost any claim to the moral high ground.
    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
    False equivalence.

    A phrase trotted out when faced with an inconvenient fact.

    And the Hunter Biden pardon is both a fact and inconvenient.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,117
    MattW said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Good reply to rory stewart this.
    You have spent your entire adult life as a delusional arrogant condescending arsehead. Wrong on every major political decision this millenium. You think you're right because you only speak to similarly vacuous knownothings who applaud you as leader of their tribe of obnoxious arsebreaths.
    11:29 AM · Feb 15, 2025
    ·
    19.9K
    Views

    https://x.com/BurnsideWasTosh/status/1890725082127093804
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
    I certainly ignore your laughable contributions.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    Scott_xP said:

    Posting only for the unintentionally hilarious photo

    https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1890731100747530467

    Near and far away?

    Is she Foreign Secretary now? I just can't keep up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622
    Thelakes said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    Thelakes said:

    Thelakes said:

    And now this.

    BREAKING: The IRS is gearing up to fire thousands of federal workers as soon as next week, according to the New York Times.



    The revelation comes one day after DOGE workers were reportedly unleashed on the Internal Revenue Service.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1890509162427404782

    Will DOGE axe the IRS workers investigating tech bro squillionaires and New York property developers?
    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    Takes one to know one.
    So you are able to identify him but the rest of us must just guess?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
    Better than Tommy
  • Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    Thelakes said:

    Thelakes said:

    And now this.

    BREAKING: The IRS is gearing up to fire thousands of federal workers as soon as next week, according to the New York Times.



    The revelation comes one day after DOGE workers were reportedly unleashed on the Internal Revenue Service.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1890509162427404782

    Will DOGE axe the IRS workers investigating tech bro squillionaires and New York property developers?
    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    ...and an enormous wan...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622
    Thelakes said:

    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
    I certainly ignore your laughable contributions.
    You've just responded to someone by saying you are ignoring them.

    By definition, that is a logical impossibility. It's as nonsensical a paradox as Putin maintaining an erection with a woman.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
    Better than Tommy
    I like her educated english accent. Of course not all the uk sees her as such sadly.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,607

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
  • boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    "Join the Mobile Infantry and save the Galaxy. Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?"

    :lol:
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
    Better than Tommy
    Is the tory party justva bunch of cucks.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,914
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Chris said:

    It's a bit difficult to know how else Reeves could have responded, if she was never told anything about the complaint at the time and the bank decided not to take any action about the complaint. The claim about what the "initial stage" of the investigation found - that Reeves "appeared" to have broken the rules - seems to come from a single unidentified source. Isn't it a bit strange that this source, supposedly with "direct knowledge of the probe", couldn't tell the BBC anything about its final outcome, or even whether any conclusion was reached?

    It is strange that this anonymous hit job is being pushed by the BBC. I'd expect it of the Mail or Telegraph.

    There must be someone fairly senior in the BBC who is pushing this story. They should be named as well as the anonymous source.

    If I were Reeves, I would treat it with total disdain.
    Going after reporters for reporting things you don’t like?

    Have you considered a job at the Trump Whitehouse?
    I'm not a Reeves supporter and dislike many of her policies.

    But this stinks.

    I don't think the leaker is a rival in the Labour Party. It's too much of a coincidence as they would also have to have worked with Reeves in HBOS 15 years ago.

    It is more likely that it is a hard core Tory who did work alongside Reeves and has come out with this story, anonymously and unsubstantiated, in order to harm Labour.

    Others on here have then made up narratives to support their preferred story of "a thief in cabinet".

    The odd thing is that the BBC has lowered its standards by running with this.

    I suspect, but don't know, that the BBC reporters concerned think that they are Bob Woodwards. Pathetic.

    I see the BBC is on the defensive on this.
    "However, the BBC has not reported that the case reached a formal conclusion, or that there was disciplinary action."
    Not sure it stinks any more than any other politics. Dobbing in Johnson for his parties during lockdown?

    The only important questions are, were the allegations true and, if they were, were they serious enough to make the targets position untenable?

    In the case of Johnson this seems to be a clear yes to both questions.

    In the case of Reeves, I have seen it posted on here and reported in the Times, without apparent challenge, that the whistleblower's claims were found to be substantially true, even if it didn't get to disciplinary action because she left.

    So the only question that really then matters is whether they were serious enough to merit removing Reeves from her current position.

    I don't know the answer to that one. It is more politics and public mood than a fact based decision.

    But to claim it 'stinks' seems to be excusing any sort of bad behaviour no matter how severe simply on the grounds that you don't like whistleblowers.
    We don't know that there was bad behaviour.


    All we really know is that there is someone with a grudge against Reeves and/or the Labour Party and has made an unsubstantiated claim about events 15 years ago, and this has been taken up by the BBC.
    The BBC has spoken to 20 people and seen the report from the preliminary investigation.

    It’s not an “unsubstantiated claim”
    It wasn't the report from the preliminary investigation. It was the whistle blower's original complaint that the BBC saw.

    What did these 20 people say? "Sorry. I don't remember anything about this". Could be anything.
    It’s absolutely astonishing the BBC is reporting on this.
    This looks like a witch-hunt.

    The HR Business Partner for her division is on record to say there was nothing going on, FFS.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,502
    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    Well if most of your conversations are with EDL members not that surprising!
    Hows your dei hire Kemi doing.
    Better than Tommy
    I like her educated english accent. Of course not all the uk sees her as such sadly.
    Why do your ilk always drop on a Saturday?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
    There goes your paranoia again.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    So still a comfortable majority even if we do need to improve the birthrate
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    Amazing facts:

    As late as 2020 the US government was still paying a pension to the daughter of a US Civil War Veteran;

    John Tyler still has one living grandson (the next presidents with living grandchildren are Taft and Franklin D. Roosevelt).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Chris said:

    It's a bit difficult to know how else Reeves could have responded, if she was never told anything about the complaint at the time and the bank decided not to take any action about the complaint. The claim about what the "initial stage" of the investigation found - that Reeves "appeared" to have broken the rules - seems to come from a single unidentified source. Isn't it a bit strange that this source, supposedly with "direct knowledge of the probe", couldn't tell the BBC anything about its final outcome, or even whether any conclusion was reached?

    It is strange that this anonymous hit job is being pushed by the BBC. I'd expect it of the Mail or Telegraph.

    There must be someone fairly senior in the BBC who is pushing this story. They should be named as well as the anonymous source.

    If I were Reeves, I would treat it with total disdain.
    Going after reporters for reporting things you don’t like?

    Have you considered a job at the Trump Whitehouse?
    I'm not a Reeves supporter and dislike many of her policies.

    But this stinks.

    I don't think the leaker is a rival in the Labour Party. It's too much of a coincidence as they would also have to have worked with Reeves in HBOS 15 years ago.

    It is more likely that it is a hard core Tory who did work alongside Reeves and has come out with this story, anonymously and unsubstantiated, in order to harm Labour.

    Others on here have then made up narratives to support their preferred story of "a thief in cabinet".

    The odd thing is that the BBC has lowered its standards by running with this.

    I suspect, but don't know, that the BBC reporters concerned think that they are Bob Woodwards. Pathetic.

    I see the BBC is on the defensive on this.
    "However, the BBC has not reported that the case reached a formal conclusion, or that there was disciplinary action."
    Not sure it stinks any more than any other politics. Dobbing in Johnson for his parties during lockdown?

    The only important questions are, were the allegations true and, if they were, were they serious enough to make the targets position untenable?

    In the case of Johnson this seems to be a clear yes to both questions.

    In the case of Reeves, I have seen it posted on here and reported in the Times, without apparent challenge, that the whistleblower's claims were found to be substantially true, even if it didn't get to disciplinary action because she left.

    So the only question that really then matters is whether they were serious enough to merit removing Reeves from her current position.

    I don't know the answer to that one. It is more politics and public mood than a fact based decision.

    But to claim it 'stinks' seems to be excusing any sort of bad behaviour no matter how severe simply on the grounds that you don't like whistleblowers.
    Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,607
    Thelakes said:

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
    There goes your paranoia again.
    I'm not quite sure how you make that conclusion from my factual statement...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622

    Thelakes said:

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    And the Muskovite young shits who are doing the job have neither the skill nor the experience. They may think they do, and the people who cheer them on are too clueless to know otherwise; but they do not.
    There goes your paranoia again.
    I'm not quite sure how you make that conclusion from my factual statement...
    He did say 'it takes one to know one' and then described a number of people as 'morons.'

    Maybe that's a line of enquiry?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    So still a comfortable majority even if we do need to improve the birthrate
    It will be lower now. 56 % is not a comfortable majority. The tories did this
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,914
    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.
  • Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Ignore the troll, I would suggest.
    Absolutely
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    Well, the Republicans have been busy interfering in US elections and they did say they wanted new products for export.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Chris said:

    It's a bit difficult to know how else Reeves could have responded, if she was never told anything about the complaint at the time and the bank decided not to take any action about the complaint. The claim about what the "initial stage" of the investigation found - that Reeves "appeared" to have broken the rules - seems to come from a single unidentified source. Isn't it a bit strange that this source, supposedly with "direct knowledge of the probe", couldn't tell the BBC anything about its final outcome, or even whether any conclusion was reached?

    It is strange that this anonymous hit job is being pushed by the BBC. I'd expect it of the Mail or Telegraph.

    There must be someone fairly senior in the BBC who is pushing this story. They should be named as well as the anonymous source.

    If I were Reeves, I would treat it with total disdain.
    Going after reporters for reporting things you don’t like?

    Have you considered a job at the Trump Whitehouse?
    I'm not a Reeves supporter and dislike many of her policies.

    But this stinks.

    I don't think the leaker is a rival in the Labour Party. It's too much of a coincidence as they would also have to have worked with Reeves in HBOS 15 years ago.

    It is more likely that it is a hard core Tory who did work alongside Reeves and has come out with this story, anonymously and unsubstantiated, in order to harm Labour.

    Others on here have then made up narratives to support their preferred story of "a thief in cabinet".

    The odd thing is that the BBC has lowered its standards by running with this.

    I suspect, but don't know, that the BBC reporters concerned think that they are Bob Woodwards. Pathetic.

    I see the BBC is on the defensive on this.
    "However, the BBC has not reported that the case reached a formal conclusion, or that there was disciplinary action."
    Not sure it stinks any more than any other politics. Dobbing in Johnson for his parties during lockdown?

    The only important questions are, were the allegations true and, if they were, were they serious enough to make the targets position untenable?

    In the case of Johnson this seems to be a clear yes to both questions.

    In the case of Reeves, I have seen it posted on here and reported in the Times, without apparent challenge, that the whistleblower's claims were found to be substantially true, even if it didn't get to disciplinary action because she left.

    So the only question that really then matters is whether they were serious enough to merit removing Reeves from her current position.

    I don't know the answer to that one. It is more politics and public mood than a fact based decision.

    But to claim it 'stinks' seems to be excusing any sort of bad behaviour no matter how severe simply on the grounds that you don't like whistleblowers.
    Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
    Mr cryptic arrives. Thinks it makes him sound intelligent. Hes just a blagger really wink wink.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,570
    Nigelb said:

    Barnesian said:

    Chris said:

    It's a bit difficult to know how else Reeves could have responded, if she was never told anything about the complaint at the time and the bank decided not to take any action about the complaint. The claim about what the "initial stage" of the investigation found - that Reeves "appeared" to have broken the rules - seems to come from a single unidentified source. Isn't it a bit strange that this source, supposedly with "direct knowledge of the probe", couldn't tell the BBC anything about its final outcome, or even whether any conclusion was reached?

    It is strange that this anonymous hit job is being pushed by the BBC. I'd expect it of the Mail or Telegraph.

    There must be someone fairly senior in the BBC who is pushing this story. They should be named as well as the anonymous source.

    If I were Reeves, I would treat it with total disdain.
    As a voter, why shouldn't I treat her with total disdain?
    That's indeed your right.
    But would it represent any change from how you treated her at the last election ?
    Now I'd have better reason...

    (To be fair, I waited to see how she performed in office before treating her with the now deserved total disdain. The dodgy CV makes little difference when set beside her actual job performance.)
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,220
    edited February 15

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    Indeedy-doody.



  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Trump hangs his own mugshot outside the oval office.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1890611074371666223
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,570

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    edited February 15

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    No, I just humiliate you. Again and again and again

    I can see why you want me banned. Again
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    Are you saying it would be Heily dangerous?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,170

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    It could be a siegnificant issue in the campaign.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941
    a
    MattW said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    Indeedy-doody.



    Is there a category for the Pisco Sour soaked?

    Asking for a friend.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,502
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    The best feeling isnt it.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
    No, I just humiliate you. Again and again and again

    I can see why you want me banned. Again
    Right about the ukraine war when all pb was in favour of continuing the pointless conflict.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    Thelakes said:

    Thelakes said:

    And now this.

    BREAKING: The IRS is gearing up to fire thousands of federal workers as soon as next week, according to the New York Times.



    The revelation comes one day after DOGE workers were reportedly unleashed on the Internal Revenue Service.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1890509162427404782

    Will DOGE axe the IRS workers investigating tech bro squillionaires and New York property developers?
    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
    Sounds like a wanker
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    edited February 15
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic drivel.
    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
    Ummmmm...that's not the most unselfaware comment I've ever seen, but that's only because I heard Amanda Spielman say the reason she kept being criticised was that people weren't open to accepting legitimate criticism.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,220
    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    How many of these are there alleged to be?

    The sort of error that could be done easily by one of Musk's script kiddies in a hurry would be reading the partner date for a young widow still alive in old age.

    Extreme eg Helen Viola Jackson the last USA Civil War widow died in 2020, when her husband had been born in 1843. There will be parallel cases in all sorts of circumstances. 1843 to 2020 is 177 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850

    Chagos Deal - big development to report. Any day I expect this EXACT sentence from Trump: “it’s a very bad deal, it’s very bad, but we are sorting it out. Mauritius will get a deal, but we will sort it out first, and everyone will love it after we do that.”

    What has just happened? FT reported in January Starmer Government will wait for Trump’s approval before signing. Modi met Trump for working visit this week BBC reported “both sides comfortable continuing Biden-era collaborations, in tech and defence”. India courted by the West as partner in countering China, experts say Trump's second presidency will continue this, not lecture India on human rights as last administration did.

    India is HUGE fan of UKs Chagos surrender. Chagos was negotiated with Mauritius by both Conservative and Labour government with Biden administration and Modi’s government “inputting”. Yesterday, after meeting Modi - Trump placed his own negotiator overtly in the middle of the ongoing negotiating room. This makes me inform you for sure, at some point Trump will instruct Starmer to sign it. In fact i am convinced Trumps order is not just sign it, UK must frontload millions in payments to Mauritius for Trump and Modi’s newly elected friend Navin Ramgoolam to play with.

    Surely Trumps intervention in negotiations will not just be front load millions for Ramgoolam, but all those security fears fettled away too? Key item in the deal to watch for, restrictions on fishing rights around Garcia. Otherwise how will we really know it not just rebranding same deal they said was bad?

    Aside from Chinese spy equipment in simple junks, defining reason UK must NOT sign this deal is a legal precedent created that will be used by other states, backed in gaming the system by gang of UK belligerents who sponsored Mauritius, (Russia, India, etc), to make predatory claims on British territory everywhere, where it’s difficult now to argue precedent applies to Chagos, not Cyprus nor Falklands. But UK colonialism on retreat not so much a Chagos deal breaker for our Indian and America friends, for them it’s actually incentive to ratify! They are anti UK colonial power except, brazen hypocrisy, rare instances like Chagos UK retaining something benefits them!
    A tricky, unacknowledgeable war Britain fights alone last 100 years.

    A key item to watch for - giving in on Trump and Modi’s bullying for upfront millions for Ramgoolam government - will prove just how hapless Labour are standing up for Britain. Even £90M a year is far too much.*

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78xpxpx005o

    https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/uks-surrender-chagos-symptom-strategic-ineptitude

    *caveat is how much US chips in, in the round, that’s never overtly acknowledged.

    The sovereign bases in Cyprus are very similar to the Chagos situation, but they occurred before the UN declaration that is the basis of the ruling that this was illegal, whereas Chagos was later. That makes the Cyprus case much weaker.

    The Falklands is a different case. The Chagos case has no direct relevance.
    Are you under estimating how gaming the system is a professional industry?
    that how standing up for bits of British colonialism is UK versus rest of the world with no allies, not even UKs own Attorney General?
    That for Putin merely sponsoring these type of attacks on us, victory for Moscow isn’t we lose Cyprus base, that’s merely cherry on cake, but the money, time, effort, resources, and distraction it costs us defending ourselves?
    and Chagos deal is a starting gun for yet more such mayhem to commence?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,342
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Thelakes said:

    Foxy said:

    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Haven't they got any 6th storey windows for him to fall out of? Or Polonium tea?
    How do you like RFK as health secretary foxy. Hes already stopping the child covid vax.
    Should sort out the US population problem in no time.
    Perhaps that's the plan.

    Kill off all the oldies and smart people.

    And then leave Elon and his latest squeeze to repopulate the continental area with Ze Master Race.
    Didn’t Pol Pot try that?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Right off to the gym now so long. And if rcs wants to ban me tell me i really admire the way he blagged his way into goldman sachs with a 2 2 in philosophy. Kudos.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,502
    Thelakes said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
    Says our latest troll that I have just outed, above.

    On Monday you will be back to sending photos of Russian beauties to foolish western men.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,342

    TimS said:

    Thelakes said:

    boulay said:

    Leon said:

    Thelakes said:

    Leon said:

    Vance's earlier European speech - in Paris - has somewhat gone under the radar

    And yet it is in some ways even better than his brilliant Munich speech. He is absolutely lucid, candid, forthright, eloquent. You can tell he is a good writer. Compare his crisp, clever, subtly passionate delivery with the windbagging torrent of verbless ordure we get from British politicos

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1889349078657716680

    He is genuinely good at this. Unless the American economy goes tits up and over (quite possible with Trump at the helm) then he will be very hard to beat for the Dems and he is the obvious candidate for the GOP. He's right here in front of them


    Hes great isnt he. And look at the faces in the audience.
    Yes, they are ashen. Like a bunch of posh kids used to sodomising the school badger, suddenly caught by an actual adult with morals
    To be fair, sodomising the school badger was not against the rules, in fact it was our main sport in Short Half. Indeed, I was Captain of badger buggery in my final year. Good times.
    Judging by your posts a job at mcdonalds would be too good for you.
    It’s Saturday morning!
    What do they do on Saturday afternoons?
    They go to Con Home, but nobody’s noticed yet.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,435
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    The best feeling isnt it.
    This love-in between you two is very odd. I always assumed the Kremlin made their approaches in a clandestine fashion.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Think goldman sachs normally requires 2 1s minimum but hey ho.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    I mean who the fuck flagged this

    LOL!

    The Quintessence of Tragic
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622
    maxh said:

    Thelakes said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    The best feeling isnt it.
    This love-in between you two is very odd. I always assumed the Kremlin made their approaches in a clandestine fashion.
    Particularly since gay sex is a crime in Russia, so they have to keep it very private.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648
    @mattsheffield

    Trump and his handlers are malignant children with flamethrowers. They know nothing and hate everything.

    Co-president Elon Musk's DOGE Dummies accidentally fired the people in charge of America's nuclear weapons, and had to walk the terminations back.

    https://x.com/mattsheffield/status/1890634454231650776
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,570
    IanB2 said:

    Thelakes said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic-induced drivel.
    It would be better off without you but i dont get personal
    Says our latest troll that I have just outed, above.

    On Monday you will be back to sending photos of Russian beauties to foolish western men.
    On Monday he'll be off to the front in a meat wave.

    Bye.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850
    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic drivel.
    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


    Quim for me, if there’s some going. It’s been soooooo long. 🥺

    And I started drinking hours before you on my day off.

    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,173
    Boulay asked: "Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?"

    Here's the US program: https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

    There are some stats at the site, including countries of origin.

    (If there have been any great scandals in the program, I have missed them.)

    For what it is worth, native Americans are disproportionately likely to join our armed services.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?

    I didn't ask

    The CCN headline for the nuclear inspectors is "fired"

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic drivel.
    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


    Quim for me, if there’s some going. It’s been soooooo long. 🥺

    And I started drinking hours before you on my day off.

    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
    Gin After Gym, Except Before Quim

    … is actually a rule invented by my then wife, the 21 year old Corbynite beauty (now a 29 year old raging Farageiste!)

    She noticed that after the gym I got a surge of testosterone, and she didn’t want me wasting it on the Hendricks, she wanted it for herself, to be pleasured thereby. However, if she was not in the mood for sex (rare, but it happened) then I was allowed to go straight to the bottle, after my workout

    GIN AFTER GYM, EXCEPT BEFORE QUIM

    She was very wise for one so young

    As I am skipping the stews tonight, I am having a G&T in Invite, on soi 8, feel free to join
  • ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    Its easy to believe that there is both a lot of fraud and a lot of admin errors.

    Being able to sort one from the other is where the skilled experience is required.
    Amazing facts:

    As late as 2020 the US government was still paying a pension to the daughter of a US Civil War Veteran;

    John Tyler still has one living grandson (the next presidents with living grandchildren are Taft and Franklin D. Roosevelt).
    “My husband’s first wife’s first husband knew Oliver Cromwell—and liked him well.”

    The setting for the article was 1999 but the remark was made in 1923 by a 91 year old who had been born in 1832. At the age of 16 she had married an 80 year old man named Henry. Sixty four years earlier, in 1784, the young Henry had, for obscure reasons, married an 82 year old woman. Her first marriage had been in 1720 and was to an 80 year old who had served Cromwell before his death in 1658!


    https://www.charlesholloway.co.uk/2010/09/a-theory-of-relativity/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    edited February 15
    ydoethur said:

    maxh said:

    Thelakes said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    The best feeling isnt it.
    This love-in between you two is very odd. I always assumed the Kremlin made their approaches in a clandestine fashion.
    Particularly since gay sex is a crime in Russia, so they have to keep it very private.
    No, sex between consenting same sex couples is legal in Russia but promotion of homosexuality is illegal and same sex couples do not have the legal protections opposite sex couples do
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,607

    Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    Because one hand does not know what the other is doing, and/or one hand cares for the legal niceties, and one hand does not?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    edited February 15
    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    So still a comfortable majority even if we do need to improve the birthrate
    It will be lower now. 56 % is not a comfortable majority. The tories did this
    More New Labour but the low birthrate in the UK of the British born is as big an issue, which also needs more child benefit etc
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    edited February 15
    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941

    Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    Difference between career US Civil Service - virtually impossible to fire - and contractors, who have varying terms of service. Some contractors can be terminated with no notice.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,170
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Those 150 year old social security claimants are apparently real people - the age was reportedly a COBOL error, as the tech kids were unfamiliar with the ole code.

    How many of these are there alleged to be?

    The sort of error that could be done easily by one of Musk's script kiddies in a hurry would be reading the partner date for a young widow still alive in old age.

    Extreme eg Helen Viola Jackson the last USA Civil War widow died in 2020, when her husband had been born in 1843. There will be parallel cases in all sorts of circumstances. 1843 to 2020 is 177 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_widows_who_survived_into_the_21st_century
    It's simpler than that. If there is no known date of birth COBOL defaults to 1875. The point is to flag it to someone who knows what they are looking at.

    https://bsky.app/profile/pbump.com/post/3li5daxur322v
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,170

    Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,470
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?
  • Scott_xP said:

    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?

    I didn't ask

    The CCN headline for the nuclear inspectors is "fired"

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/climate/nuclear-nnsa-firings-trump/index.html
    So they were supposedly 'fired' and then the 'firing' was rescinded.

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    All this, including the media reports, taking only a few hours.

    Doubtless an odd way to be conducting affairs but the exaggerated and emotive reporting only adds to the confusion.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?

    Probably self identification, as used by the Home Office and the rest of HMG
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,066
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,220
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
    They've had 3% of the workforce sign up, allegedly, to an agreement which has no flexibility on their side, and the offer which can be withdrawn at will.

    And the agreement is illegal under several US laws (eg "Administrative Leave" is capped at 9 days per annum, not "6 months").

    But that's just the same as perhaps 99% or more of what Musk has done - illegal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT848djz4jA
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,570

    Leon said:

    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    RIGHT

    I’ve just been to the gym, and the rules are the rules

    “Gin after gym, except before quim”

    To the gin!

    PB really would be better off without your alcoholic drivel.
    I’m just about to have my first drink, actually

    Cheers, mon vieux


    Hey - watching this Arsenal team trying to create an opening is like watching a St Bernard try to tighten a screw using a Maggot, they are so mid table on this performance Arsenal won’t even make top 4. 😆
    Here's a Forest fan hoping so!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,980
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    s.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
    This line from the CNN article sounds more decisive than "you may be at risk";

    all NNSA employees whose access to the agency’s network and internal IT systems was shut off would be turned back on, one source told CNN.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,722

    Olaf Scholz has accused VP Vance of unacceptable interference in the German elections.

    I wonder if his intervention will have an effect similar to Barack "back of the queue" Obama had in our Referendum?

    I can imagine many Germans would love to give Donald Trump the one-fingered salute.... Musk's salute being somewhat out of fashion there now as it can get you six months inside.
    Vance told them that they should legalise it, same way his admin legalised gunmen storming the legislature to annul a democratic vote.
  • Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Chris said:

    It's a bit difficult to know how else Reeves could have responded, if she was never told anything about the complaint at the time and the bank decided not to take any action about the complaint. The claim about what the "initial stage" of the investigation found - that Reeves "appeared" to have broken the rules - seems to come from a single unidentified source. Isn't it a bit strange that this source, supposedly with "direct knowledge of the probe", couldn't tell the BBC anything about its final outcome, or even whether any conclusion was reached?

    It is strange that this anonymous hit job is being pushed by the BBC. I'd expect it of the Mail or Telegraph.

    There must be someone fairly senior in the BBC who is pushing this story. They should be named as well as the anonymous source.

    If I were Reeves, I would treat it with total disdain.
    Going after reporters for reporting things you don’t like?

    Have you considered a job at the Trump Whitehouse?
    I'm not a Reeves supporter and dislike many of her policies.

    But this stinks.

    I don't think the leaker is a rival in the Labour Party. It's too much of a coincidence as they would also have to have worked with Reeves in HBOS 15 years ago.

    It is more likely that it is a hard core Tory who did work alongside Reeves and has come out with this story, anonymously and unsubstantiated, in order to harm Labour.

    Others on here have then made up narratives to support their preferred story of "a thief in cabinet".

    The odd thing is that the BBC has lowered its standards by running with this.

    I suspect, but don't know, that the BBC reporters concerned think that they are Bob Woodwards. Pathetic.

    I see the BBC is on the defensive on this.
    "However, the BBC has not reported that the case reached a formal conclusion, or that there was disciplinary action."
    Not sure it stinks any more than any other politics. Dobbing in Johnson for his parties during lockdown?

    The only important questions are, were the allegations true and, if they were, were they serious enough to make the targets position untenable?

    In the case of Johnson this seems to be a clear yes to both questions.

    In the case of Reeves, I have seen it posted on here and reported in the Times, without apparent challenge, that the whistleblower's claims were found to be substantially true, even if it didn't get to disciplinary action because she left.

    So the only question that really then matters is whether they were serious enough to merit removing Reeves from her current position.

    I don't know the answer to that one. It is more politics and public mood than a fact based decision.

    But to claim it 'stinks' seems to be excusing any sort of bad behaviour no matter how severe simply on the grounds that you don't like whistleblowers.
    Or who they are blowing the whistle on.
    I was holding off that accusation as I believe Barnesian is a long suffering Lib Dem and I am taking his opening comment about not liking Reeves at face value.

    I don't think this is party bias just a rather blindly positive view of politicians as a whole.

    It's easier for me as I think they are all inherently scumbags.
  • Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    That's my point. After 25 years, my boss got 1 days notice.
    And how much payoff ?

    If US government employees can be got rid off so easily then why are they offering nine months pay for anyone who wants to resign ?
    I think that is just bait and switch by DOGE. I wouldn't expect anyone to actually receive it.
    They'd be extremely stupid not to pay.

    The resulting court cases would cost more.

    And the loss of goodwill among the rest of the government workforce would cost far, far more.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 386
    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    Wonder where this statistic is from? Because of the various changes (at least 10) to the Immigration Acts in the past 30 years, it would be difficult to look at a baby and decide if it is British or not. You would have to know the precise status of the parents and whether they were British automatically, or were working towards Citizenship or has ILR. All I can assume is that when asked the question, an answer is given which may or may not be legally sound.

    Anyway good to see there are more 'British' births as the UK will be needing them. All you need is love, or in Musk's case a test tube.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
    So maybe white BRITISH is the discrepancy? Or is the original claim bollocks?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,066
    Leon said:

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
    So maybe white BRITISH is the discrepancy? Or is the original claim bollocks?
    A huge number of white people have European or Irish ancestry. Since 2000, the categories of ethnic groups have also expanded enormously.

    There’s also a growing number of mixed-race children, too.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Or perhaps in the real world they were put on notice of risk of redundancy and then informed that they were no longer at risk.

    In the real world they were told they no longer had a job, and then they were told they did still have a job

    Pick whatever word for that makes you happy
    The story is all emotive froth until it is known how many people have lost their jobs, what they do and how much it has cost the government.

    Filling the media with emotive froth meanwhile plays into Trump's hands.
  • WinchyWinchy Posts: 110
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?
    Probably self identification, as used by the Home Office and the rest of HMG
    What would you prefer - a pencil test?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)
  • WinchyWinchy Posts: 110
    Battlebus said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    Wonder where this statistic is from? Because of the various changes (at least 10) to the Immigration Acts in the past 30 years, it would be difficult to look at a baby and decide if it is British or not. You would have to know the precise status of the parents and whether they were British automatically, or were working towards Citizenship or has ILR. All I can assume is that when asked the question, an answer is given which may or may not be legally sound.

    Anyway good to see there are more 'British' births as the UK will be needing them. All you need is love, or in Musk's case a test tube.
    What is this I keep hearing about Musk and IVF? Is he sex phobic??
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,914
    Winchy said:

    Battlebus said:

    Thelakes said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    White british births are now only 56% of total. No wonder the tpries are in trouble jeez. Bunch of m.r.ns
    Wonder where this statistic is from? Because of the various changes (at least 10) to the Immigration Acts in the past 30 years, it would be difficult to look at a baby and decide if it is British or not. You would have to know the precise status of the parents and whether they were British automatically, or were working towards Citizenship or has ILR. All I can assume is that when asked the question, an answer is given which may or may not be legally sound.

    Anyway good to see there are more 'British' births as the UK will be needing them. All you need is love, or in Musk's case a test tube.
    What is this I keep hearing about Musk and IVF? Is he sex phobic??
    It’s more efficient, I presume?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    I checked the figures on the ONS website, for births where ethnicity is recorded. The number of white babies in 2022 was 412,000 out of 585,000, or 70.7%.
    So maybe white BRITISH is the discrepancy? Or is the original claim bollocks?
    A huge number of white people have European or Irish ancestry. Since 2000, the categories of ethnic groups have also expanded enormously.

    There’s also a growing number of mixed-race children, too.

    I just checked. I think the stat is legit. It is a catastrophe in the making, and very very sad

    It’s one reason I travel so much, to be brutally honest. I can’t bear to see what is happening to my country. it’s like leaving a friend with some terminal cancer, better to have the memory of what was, than see what is

    And before everyone has conniptions, I favour immigration. You need it to keep genetic variety and cultural dynamism. in moderation it is a really GOOD thing. But we are far beyond “moderation” now
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,914
    Winchy said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thelakes said:

    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.

    Unlikely given over 80% of the population is still white
    Er, if you project the numbers then it is extremely likely that white British births will be the minority by 2030, if they are only 56% now. That’s just math
    What proportion of whiteness is required in a baby's ancestry for them to be classed as white? Or do you have to use a colour chart?
    Probably self identification, as used by the Home Office and the rest of HMG
    What would you prefer - a pencil test?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil_test_(South_Africa)
    I have thick, Celtic curls.
    Think the actor John C Reilly or similar.

    I would have failed the pencil test.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,681
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE

    Stacking a dishwasher is much harder than gyrating in the middle of an empty room for a humanoid robot.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 386
    Leon said:

    Look the fuck at this

    https://x.com/unitreerobotics/status/1890377207169548775?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg

    We are far beyond @Benpointer’s request for a robot that can “stack my dishwasher”

    BRACE

    Been around for about 20 years and this is all the progress they've made....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYAthiROTGM
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