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  • OllyT said:

    They won't care because they know they will be pardoned by Trump before he leaves office.

    The pardoning of those convicted of Jan 6th offences gave a clear signal that it's OK to break the law provided it is done in the interests of Donald Trump. Musk will do whatever he pleases knowing that he is practically immune from legal prosecution.

    The ability of Presidents to pardon people convicted of criminal acts is one of the most ludicrous aspects of the US political system. In the wrong hands it simply encourages criminality without consequences which is what I believe we are going to see over the next 4 years
    Among Biden's many failings was pardoning Hunter.

    Trump will do what suits Trump.

    But the Dems have lost any claim to the moral high ground.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    murali_s said:

    The man is an idiot. That has been proved time and again - even Trump doesn’t rate him - for Trump, he is a useful idiot. The thing I can’t quite work out is my sister, Usha Vance. She is allegedly very bright academically - just shows you can get straight As and still be an ignorant fool. Alternatively, she is just there for the ride…
    Is she actually your sister?

    I hope so, because that would make you interesting, for the very first time in the entire history of PB
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,051
    Leon said:

    Yes, they are ashen. Like a bunch of posh kids used to sodomising the school badger, suddenly caught by an actual adult with morals
    To be fair, sodomising the school badger was not against the rules, in fact it was our main sport in Short Half. Indeed, I was Captain of badger buggery in my final year. Good times.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    White british births will likely be a minority by 2030. And apparently now Tommy Robinson is being mistreated in jail.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    boulay said:

    To be fair, sodomising the school badger was not against the rules, in fact it was our main sport in Short Half. Indeed, I was Captain of badger buggery in my final year. Good times.
    Judging by your posts a job at mcdonalds would be too good for you.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551

    And with Eagles on holiday and OGHJr presumably on American hours, it could be a long morning.

    yup
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004

    There is a whistle-blower involved but without the BBC naming them it is not possible to identify them, even though you seem to suggest it is a Tory without any providing any evidence
    Yes. You're right. It could simply be someone with a long standing personal grudge against Reeves.

    I've fallen into the trap that I was complaining about others, namely creating a narrative to support a preconceived belief. In my case that it is a Tory with a political motive rather than some ex-colleague with a personal grudge.

    Interesting. So easy to do.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,813

    I actually think that they’ve been quite careful in caveating their reporting in what they do/don’t know.

    Should they not be running the story at all because it’s a bit embarrassing for Reeves? I think unless there’s more to come it’s weak sauce, but I don’t see why they shouldn’t run it.
    They haven't found the slightest evidence of misconduct or disciplinary action against Rachel Reeves. They heavily imply this however, or as you put it, "caveat" their reporting. I'm not sure this is appropriate for a national broadcaster.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,693
    Thelakes said:

    Judging by your posts a job at mcdonalds would be too good for you.
    It’s Saturday morning!
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004

    Good morning one and all.
    I miss our usual Russian contributor. More interesting than some of what's being posted this morning.

    He's here. In plain sight.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,027
    Scott_xP said:

    Trump can only pardon them for Federal crimes.

    Publicly posting personal information on a US citizen is a civil offence. A class action could see them looking at serious jail time and bankruptcy
    Thank's for that clarification, I hope you are right and the MAGAs can't work a way around it.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004
    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Depending on the state, it's REALLY easy to fire people in the US.

    Pennsylvania for example is "right to work" state, which in effect means right to terminate immediately

    EDIT: Perhaps 'fire' is a confusing word in this context. What actually happens is the position is eliminated, so perhaps made redundant is a better term
    Its not a confusing word, its the wrong word.

    People are 'fired' for incompetence or misconduct.

    With the public perception of being fired influenced by The Apprentice.

    While being made redundant comes with notice periods and redundancy payments as per employment contracts.

    With the more senior the position likely the better contract.

    Now organisations often make redundancies.

    Sometimes successfully, sometimes not.

    What is currently happening in USA government employment is uncertain, what the consequences of whatever is happening is even more uncertain.

    But self-serving garbled claims on twatter are effectively worthless whoever they come from.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Time to get a shack in appalachia losers.

    The rats are dispersing.

    Homes put up for sale in just the last 14 days in DC.

    https://x.com/merissahansen17/status/1890543820099522786
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Barnesian said:

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    Indeed. About as long as you can keep it up.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Could you imagine gutting the uk civil service like this. What fun that would be as the parasites are fired.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551

    being made redundant comes with notice periods and redundancy payments as per employment contracts.

    The notice periods in the US in this respect can be days though, not the weeks or months we might expect in the UK.

    IIRC my contract is something like 1 weeks notice for every year of employment.

    My erstwhile boss in PA called me up and said "today is my last day" after 25 years with the company.
  • Among Biden's many failings was pardoning Hunter.

    Trump will do what suits Trump.

    But the Dems have lost any claim to the moral high ground.
    If the Biden administration had been fit for purpose both Trump and Hunter would now be in jail.

    That neither are shows that its incompetence matched its immorality.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,954
    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Good. Should have had the birch!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551
    Posting only for the unintentionally hilarious photo

    https://x.com/pritipatel/status/1890731100747530467
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    Good. Should have had the birch!
    Ah a bit of classism i see.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    Barnesian said:

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,092
    TimS said:

    It’s Saturday morning!
    What do they do on Saturday afternoons?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,051
    Thelakes said:

    Judging by your posts a job at mcdonalds would be too good for you.
    Thanks babe, wanna be my new badger?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    Very true. Especially if he comes out looking obviously the worse for wear. Leon is one of the few sensible posters on here.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Haven't they got any 6th storey windows for him to fall out of? Or Polonium tea?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Foxy said:

    Haven't they got any 6th storey windows for him to fall out of? Or Polonium tea?
    How do you like RFK as health secretary foxy. Hes already stopping the child covid vax.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,954
    Thelakes said:

    Ah a bit of classism i see.
    Who gives a fuck? When he's out of nick Robinson will be back in his million quid gated mansion.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    Thelakes said:

    How do you like RFK as health secretary foxy. Hes already stopping the child covid vax.
    Should sort out the US population problem in no time.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,051
    Thelakes said:

    How do you like RFK as health secretary foxy. Hes already stopping the child covid vax.
    Ahh, RFK,


  • Barnesian said:

    Yes. You're right. It could simply be someone with a long standing personal grudge against Reeves.

    I've fallen into the trap that I was complaining about others, namely creating a narrative to support a preconceived belief. In my case that it is a Tory with a political motive rather than some ex-colleague with a personal grudge.

    Interesting. So easy to do.
    It may not have a political motive to be fair, just someone who feels a grievance whilst working with her all those years ago
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Foxy said:

    Should sort out the US population problem in no time.
    HHS Secretary RFK Jr. on Fox News: “I have a list in my head” of HHS and NIH employees who need to be FIRED.

    “It’s all corruption.”

    “There’s people at NIH who were involved in the amyloid plaque scandal that derailed Alzheimer’s treatment for 20 YEARS.”

    https://x.com/CartlandDavid/status/1890698688156094741
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Foxy said:

    Should sort out the US population problem in no time.
    Perhaps that's the plan.

    Kill off all the oldies and smart people.

    And then leave Elon and his latest squeeze to repopulate the continental area with Ze Master Race.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,954
    Thelakes said:

    Very true. Especially if he comes out looking obviously the worse for wear. Leon is one of the few sensible posters on here.
    Leon's due for an honorary colonelship of the KGB.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Why do you guys give out antidepressants like candy foxy. Is it kickbacks from the drugs companies.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    Leon said:

    Vance's earlier European speech - in Paris - has somewhat gone under the radar

    And yet it is in some ways even better than his brilliant Munich speech. He is absolutely lucid, candid, forthright, eloquent. You can tell he is a good writer. Compare his crisp, clever, subtly passionate delivery with the windbagging torrent of verbless ordure we get from British politicos

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1889349078657716680

    He is genuinely good at this. Unless the American economy goes tits up and over (quite possible with Trump at the helm) then he will be very hard to beat for the Dems and he is the obvious candidate for the GOP. He's right here in front of them

    If Trump does to the standard of living of many millions of GOP voters what I think is quite likely, then he could be the love child of Lincoln and Demosthenes, and still easily lose.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    Leon's due for an honorary colonelship of the KGB.
    He's halfway there already, he's got the six different identities with ludicrous backstories.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,127

    Who gives a fuck? When he's out of nick Robinson will be back in his million quid gated mansion.
    For a moment I was struggling with Tommeh being in Nick Robinson.
    The BBC are inclined to grovel to the new/far/hard/alt right but that would be taking it too far.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Nigelb said:

    If Trump does to the standard of living of many millions of GOP voters what I think is quite likely, then he could be the love child of Lincoln and Demosthenes, and still easily lose.

    No he will blame the deep state. More purges forthcoming.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    I think we could all be missing the subtext of Vance's recent speeches.

    He's gone after Trump again, this time by comparing him to a child with mental health challenges.

    Very much more subtle than the jibe about Trump being Hitler, but the meaning is surely clear.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    No he will blame the deep state. More purges forthcoming.
    Chiska, tovarisch.
  • Scott_xP said:

    The notice periods in the US in this respect can be days though, not the weeks or months we might expect in the UK.

    IIRC my contract is something like 1 weeks notice for every year of employment.

    My erstwhile boss in PA called me up and said "today is my last day" after 25 years with the company.
    Contracts are a two way thing.

    The employer has to give notice if they make the work redundant, the worker has to give notice if they want to leave their employer.

    Now this story was about nuclear weapons inspectors wasn't it?

    Very skilled, very experienced, very valuable and very difficult to replace people.

    I suspect their employment contracts don't allow for a notice period of only days.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    Leon said:

    ...Like a bunch of posh kids used to sodomising the school badger, suddenly caught by an actual adult with morals...

    With any other poster that would be fictional... :)
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,954
    ydoethur said:

    He's halfway there already, he's got the six different identities with ludicrous backstories.
    Seriously though. It's obvious that Kremlin are aware of Leon. I wonder if he's been approached.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    Seriously though. It's obvious that Kremlin are aware of Leon. I wonder if he's been approached.
    Nah, he's just a Spectator.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    edited February 15

    Maybe but that will take years and buying US military including fighter jets is the only option in the meantime

    Also what is going to happen with AUKUS ?
    It's not the only option, though the F35 offers capabilities others don't.

    But the urgent items - missiles of all kinds; artillery rounds; armoured vehicles etc - can be made in Europe/UK.
    And if we are to spend 3.5% of GDP on defence, we and Europe must develop domestic capability in everything.

    S Korea and Japan also enter the chat.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Trump fully controlling the media now. He will be jailing them in a year.

    New statement from The AP:

    “The decision by the White House to block an AP reporter from an open press conference with President Trump and Prime Minister Modi is a deeply troubling escalation of the administration’s continued efforts to punish The Associated Press for its editorial decisions.

    It is a plain violation of the First Amendment, and we urge the Trump administration in the strongest terms to stop this practice.

    This is now the third day AP reporters have been barred from covering the president – first as a member of the pool, and now from a formal press conference – an incredible disservice to the billions of people who rely on The Associated Press for nonpartisan news.”
    10:39 PM · Feb 13, 2025
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    1.1M
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    https://x.com/brianstelter/status/1890168968402415709
  • ydoethur said:

    Nah, he's just a Spectator.
    Who wants to be a Dic ... tator :wink:
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Barnesian said:

    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.
    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    edited February 15
    The US Secretary of Defence Mr Hegseth is a fvcking idiot:

    https://youtu.be/Z2zGbyto814?t=1807
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083

    Who wants to be a Dic ... tator :wink:
    Shurely a Dickensian?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    MattW said:

    The US Defence Mr Hegseth is a fvcking idiot:

    https://youtu.be/Z2zGbyto814?t=1807

    Is he?

    I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    No of conversations with people i have now who say they want a dictatorship is incredible.
    They'd be damn brave to say anything else in your parts.

    As long, of course, as they don't get the wrong idea as to *who* is going to be the 'tator, like Prigozhin did.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,846
    edited February 15
    Leon said:

    You suspect our new friend is a Putin-bot

    So do I

    But do you know that he's wrong about Tommy Robinson? Because if he is right, this sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. It is also counter-productive for the Woke UK State, as it makes him more of a martyr
    tbh at first I thought it was you. The Lakes, you see.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    ydoethur said:

    Is he?

    I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
    Hes got good hair though.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,295
    edited February 15

    Seriously though. It's obvious that Kremlin are aware of Leon. I wonder if he's been approached.
    Yes and yes

    How do you think I can afford to stay in 4-5 star hotels for months on end? They’re not ALL freebies
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,051
    Nigelb said:

    It's not the only option, though the F35 offers capabilities others don't.

    But the urgent items - missiles of all kinds; artillery rounds; armoured vehicles etc - can be made in Europe/UK.
    And if we are to spend 3.5% of GDP on defence, we and Europe must develop domestic capability in everything.
    European countries need to drop the requirement that the manufacturer’s country must give permission to use the weaponry if we are to build a mutually beneficial pan European arms industry.

    There is no point loading up on German tanks and then finding that the German government won’t let us use them in some situation. Imagine buying Spanish missiles and then they veto us using them if the Falklands kicks off because they want to use the situation to their advantage re Gibraltar.

    Whilst it’s hard to trust Trump’s America our nearer neighbours aren’t necessarily any more reliable either.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    Hes got good hair though.
    Grass only grows on deserted streets.

    As OGH and I both demonstrate with our skinhead looks.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    Barnesian said:

    Countdown beginning. I give you 10 minutes max.
    @TSE is on holiday and @rcs1000 is on US time? I think it'll take longer than that
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Leon said:

    Yes and yes
    Hes a prime target. Single man with no real family always travelling. A lot of paranoia on this board lol.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Thelakes said:

    Hes a prime target. Single man with no real family always travelling. A lot of paranoia on this board lol.
    He may not be as paranoid in real life as he is on this board though.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    viewcode said:

    @TSE is on holiday and @rcs1000 is on US time? I think it'll take longer than that
    Rcs will be getting a picture of Trump on his wall soon. Hecwill have to polish it every day.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,602
    pigeon said:

    Streeting is a do-nothing. He's deliberately booted any kind of decision on social care beyond the next election by commissioning a useless three year long review that he can then spend more time pretending to read and consider, putting off any actual reform conveniently until after the Government had
    to write a manifesto spelling out how much it'll cost and where the money is meant to
    come from.

    Whether this is because he wants to avoid
    carrying the can for incredibly unpopular
    decisions, or because he knows that
    Reeves simply won't countenance paying
    for any of it, I don't know.
    It’s because he wants to be prime minister

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    boulay said:

    European countries need to drop the requirement that the manufacturer’s country must give permission to use the weaponry if we are to build a mutually beneficial pan European arms industry.

    There is no point loading up on German tanks and then finding that the German government won’t let us use them in some situation. Imagine buying Spanish missiles and then they veto us using them if the Falklands kicks off because they want to use the situation to their advantage re Gibraltar.

    Whilst it’s hard to trust Trump’s America our nearer neighbours aren’t necessarily any more reliable either.
    Partially true - but right now we're all in the same boat.
    In any event, if the UK buys tanks (not a priority for us, IMO) we should license the new Korean design, as has Poland.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173

    It’s because he wants to be prime minister
    Sounds like as valid a theory as any. You don't get to be Prime Minister by asking the rich olds and the heirs for anything.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,051
    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    Thelakes said:

    HHS Secretary RFK Jr. on Fox News: “I have a list in my head” of HHS and NIH employees who need to be FIRED.

    “It’s all corruption.”

    “There’s people at NIH who were involved in the amyloid plaque scandal that derailed Alzheimer’s treatment for 20 YEARS.”

    https://x.com/CartlandDavid/status/1890698688156094741
    Is it the worm who keeps the list in his head?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,477
    I still don't think Streeting makes it. Yvette Cooper still seems the likeliest to me.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,477
    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    Um.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173
    Nigelb said:

    It's not the only option, though the F35 offers capabilities others don't.

    But the urgent items - missiles of all kinds; artillery rounds; armoured vehicles etc - can be made in Europe/UK.
    And if we are to spend 3.5% of GDP on defence, we and Europe must develop domestic capability in everything.

    S Korea and Japan also enter the chat.
    We are not going to increase the defence budget by £30bn a year. The Government is too terrified either to cut spending to provide money on that scale, or raise taxes.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,602
    Barnesian said:

    We don't know that there was bad behaviour.


    All we really know is that there is someone with a grudge against Reeves and/or the Labour Party and has made an unsubstantiated claim about events 15 years ago, and this has been taken up by the BBC.
    The BBC has spoken to 20 people and seen the report from the preliminary investigation.

    It’s not an “unsubstantiated claim”
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,371
    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    https://www.gov.uk/apply-indefinite-leave-to-remain-armed-forces

    There is a scheme whereby you can get indefinite leave to remain having been in the armed forces, although to join the armed forces, if you are not British, you have to be from a Commonwealth country or Ireland.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Foxy said:

    Is it the worm who keeps the list in his head?
    How much have you had in kickbacks from the drugs companies foxy
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,602
    Thelakes said:

    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    Describing have sex with a woman (regardless of how attractive she is) as “the spoils” suggests you have a strange view of individual agency and the rights of women
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,079
    MattW said:

    The US Secretary of Defence Mr Hegseth is a fvcking idiot:

    https://youtu.be/Z2zGbyto814?t=1807

    MattW said:

    The US Secretary of Defence Mr Hegseth is a fvcking idiot:

    https://youtu.be/Z2zGbyto814?t=1807

    They are all idiots. Sadly not harmless idiots…
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,541
    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    Commonwealth citizens already can, if they have residence already. So it's not a huge leap for some countries.

    Plus, of course, we already allow Irish citizens to enlist.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534

    I still don't think Streeting makes it. Yvette Cooper still seems the likeliest to me.

    She was third last time she ran. I think Starmer lasts until the next general election but if he is replaced it would likely be by Streeting or Rayner
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83

    Describing have sex with a woman (regardless of how attractive she is) as “the spoils” suggests you have a strange view of individual agency and the rights of women
    Oh look woke nonsense. This aint 2015 you know.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,541
    carnforth said:

    Commonwealth citizens already can, if they have residence already. So it's not a huge leap for some countries.

    Plus, of course, we already allow Irish citizens to enlist.
    Actually, it looks like we're already recruiting commonwealth soldiers who are not in Britain yet:

    https://jobs.army.mod.uk/how-to-join/can-i-apply/nationality/
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,371
    HYUFD said:

    She was third last time she ran. I think Starmer lasts until the next general election but if he is replaced it would likely be by Streeting or Rayner
    Badenoch was 4th in 2022, and then won the next time (there was a contested election).
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    edited February 15
    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    We do already.

    https://www.gov.uk/apply-indefinite-leave-to-remain-armed-forces

    Around 10% of our soldiers are foreign nationals, from Commonwealth countries mostly.

    https://www.declassifieduk.org/revealed-one-in-10-soldiers-in-the-british-army-is-a-foreign-national-amid-concerns-over-racism-and-mercenaries/#:~:text=Ten percent of full-time,troops, new analysis has found.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    edited February 15

    Among Biden's many failings was pardoning Hunter.

    Trump will do what suits Trump.

    But the Dems have lost any claim to the moral high ground.
    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004
    edited February 15

    The BBC has spoken to 20 people and seen the report from the preliminary investigation.

    It’s not an “unsubstantiated claim”
    It wasn't the report from the preliminary investigation. It was the whistle blower's original complaint that the BBC saw.

    What did these 20 people say? "Sorry. I don't remember anything about this". Could be anything.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    One for you foxy.

    RFK JR. Has revealed that President Trump’s DOJ will launch RICO investigation to prosecute the collusion between medical boards, medical journals and Big Pharma. Buckle Up.!!!!!

    https://x.com/emma6USA/status/1890438996251062476
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,430
    Barnesian said:

    We only have Robinson's word for it. It's worth reading the Community Notes on his tweet.

    I agree it will make him more of a martyr for some. But how many?
    I'm guessing 10-25% of Reform supporters?
    So 3-7% of voters?
    Politically I think Robinson as a martyr is good for the Tories as it damages Reform. I think Farage will continue to distance himself and his party from Robinson to continue to appeal to more moderate voters, which he needs.

    But what do I know! I'm continually confounded.

    For example I was wrong about our new friend. He's lasted more than 10 more minutes. He seems to be more your friend than mine!
    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,017
    boulay said:

    Has anyone considered allowing foreign nationals a route to citizenship through joining the military in the UK?

    I know there are security implications but if a lot of young people are prepared to risk death in the Channel to get here then why not offer citizenship after 10 years in the navy without any bad behaviour (not Dura type bad behaviour, that’s what sailors do of course).

    We get sailors we need, people get a job and a route to citizenship, win/win.

    Or we could treat them like we did the Afghan translators and support team we had over there. Just promise and renege.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    Thelakes said:

    Important update on Tommy's treatment at Woodhill high security prison.

    Where he's already spent over 3 months in solitary confinement, for a civil offence!

    Recently he's had visit after visit cancelled, phone calls, emails, barred.

    Now he's had contact with his ex wife, the mother of his children, terminated!

    He's being mentally tortured by the state, for exposing their corruption.

    https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1890153835173187826

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    kinabalu said:

    I haven't though. I remain at altitude and eagle eyed, therefore able to spot False Equivalence in the world below.
    The ivory tower is sweet Kinabalu.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,004
    edited February 15
    HYUFD said:

    She was third last time she ran. I think Starmer lasts until the next general election but if he is replaced it would likely be by Streeting or Rayner
    I fancy Raynor.

    To clarify: I have a small amount on her as next Labour leader
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    MattW said:

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Very Trumpian behaviour. The big dog would love him.
  • ThelakesThelakes Posts: 83
    Barnesian said:

    I fancy Raynor.
    Shes a clear DEU hire but would be good behind the bikesheds
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    edited February 15
    MattW said:

    Who is this prick Thelakes?
    Today's choice to Putin a shift looking like a muppet.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,017
    MattW said:

    Who is this prick Thelakes?

    Yaxley-Lennon is in prison because he pled guilty to contempt of court, which is criminal.

    AIUI he's in solitary for his own safety, as assessed by the Prison Authorities.

    As for the missus, is she the one who tried to help him hide around £1m of assets when he went bankrupt?
    Maybe Musk has got a bit bored on Twitter?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,371

    Well, Leon gets banned and then returns over and over again, so who knows?
    But Saturday morning trolls get banned for posting ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro-Putin nonsense, whereas Leon posts ludicrous, incendiary, insulting, pro... hold on...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    carnforth said:

    Actually, it looks like we're already recruiting commonwealth soldiers who are not in Britain yet:

    https://jobs.army.mod.uk/how-to-join/can-i-apply/nationality/
    Jamaican?

    No, they're all volunteers.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    Thelakes said:

    Musk has just fathered another child you know. Shes pretty hot too. To the victor the spoils the losers lose their cushy public sector job and work at maccyds.
    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    viewcode said:

    If memory serves, Musk prefers to impregnate his baby mammas via artificial insemination, and he has used this technique for all his children (except for the first one which died). He is rather strange.

    So he's a hopeless fucker?
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