Leon said:

kinabalu said:

TOPPING said:

kinabalu said:

Mexicanpete said:

tlg86 said:

Mexicanpete said:

....

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

At least two people on PB did.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

Andy_JS did.

We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.

https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561

I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.

If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.

Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?

It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.

A mass murder happens.

"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"

It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.

It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?

Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.

Why is that your go-to example.

We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.

“channelling”

RochdalePioneers said:

Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c

Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...

kinabalu said:

Mexicanpete said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

Six now, keep up.

It's gone viral!

bondegezou said:

TOPPING said:

kinabalu said:

TOPPING said:

kinabalu said:

Mexicanpete said:

tlg86 said:

Mexicanpete said:

....

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

At least two people on PB did.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

Andy_JS did.

We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.

https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561

I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.

If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.

Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?

It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.

A mass murder happens.

"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"

It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.

It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?

Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.

Why is that your go-to example.

We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.

Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.

This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.

RochdalePioneers said:

Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c

Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...

bondegezou said:

eek said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

Pulpstar said:

Leon said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Bank of England cut rate to 4.5%

Growth forecast halved from 1.5 to .75

That’s within the MoE of a year without growth. Total stagnancy

This government likely won’t recover from this disastrous beginning. Still, great time to give Mauritius £18bn, eh?

Come on, how will Starmer be able to show his face at Matrix Chambers to sue the UK for god knows what after he's booted out if he doesn't acquiesce with the right sort of opinions regarding ICJ rulings ?
Think of how awkward the dinner parties with Sands and his friends will be.
Isn't £18 Bn a mere pittance to save Starmer from personal embarrassment ?!

I don’t believe the Chagos deal with go through now. It is so absurdly high profile and it could doom the government by itself

People have no clue where these islands are, they mostly couldnt give a fuck, but EIGHTEEN BILLION QUID

There is no way you can spin that

There’s a very amusing TwiX thread saying “it’s like seeing a nice table in IKEA for sale for £175,000 and you go the till presuming it’s £175 because…. Surely not….”

When somebody asks you (as I imagine they must sometimes) how much you spend on carrots, do you first estimate how many times a month you have one, then times 12 to get your annual carrot trough, times the current cost per carrot, times the 25 years you hope to be eating carrots before the curtain falls and you go to the great hutch in the sky where carrots aren't available, and then uplift the total for projected inflation over those 25 years, and answer THREE THOUSAND POUNDS?

The idea that we are giving the land to them and still paying money for it is insane.

It’s like gifting a house to your children and then paying rent to life there

We would be still paying money for it because we want to go on using it.

kinabalu said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

8 likes!

Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.

Stark_Dawning said:

kinabalu said:

boulay said:

…

kinabalu said:

Mexicanpete said:

tlg86 said:

Mexicanpete said:

....

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

At least two people on PB did.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

Andy_JS did.

We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.

https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561

I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.

If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.

Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?

It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.

A mass murder happens.

"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"

It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.

It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?

Yes it’s only one way…

There are people who actively hope it’s a Muslim as it bolsters their world view.

There are people who actively hope it’s a far righty as it bolsters their world view.

There are people who hope it’s not a far righty as it questions their world view.

Thee are people who hope it’s not a Muslim as it questions their world view.

Then there are people who have managed to realise by now that it’s best to wait and see as it can be Muslim, far right or just mentally disturbed people.

And we are all in that final group. Let nobody say otherwise.

Heard an interesting thing the other day. The point that there are some people (almost always young men) who are susceptible to violent extremism of any stripe. They might find it in the far right but could just as easily (the same person) find it in eco or religious fundamentalism or whatever.

Interesting. There was a young guy who frequented my local pub back in my home town. Had always been a bit of a violent nutter. On one occasion he got up to the karaoke mike and started making racist rants about 'p*k*s' until the landlord told him to pipe down. Yet, a few years later, he was spotted hanging around with traditionally dressed young Muslim men. And after that he was pictured in The Mirror leading an anti-Covid-vaccine march in London.

kjh said:

kinabalu said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

8 likes!

Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.

12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.

Leon said:

kjh said:

kinabalu said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

8 likes!

Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.

12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.

Erm…. No?

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

kinabalu said:

bondegezou said:

TOPPING said:

kinabalu said:

TOPPING said:

kinabalu said:

Mexicanpete said:

tlg86 said:

Mexicanpete said:

....

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

At least two people on PB did.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

No, no one did

That must annoy you

Andy_JS did.

We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.

https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561

I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.

If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.

Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?

It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.

A mass murder happens.

"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"

It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.

It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?

Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.

Why is that your go-to example.

We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.

Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.

This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.

He's trying. That's the main thing.

Gardenwalker said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c

Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...

Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.

Do better, Britain!

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

Difficult to see you're in a madhouse from the inside. I suspect we won't agree, as you'd accuse me of the same.

Right about Badenoch though isn't it? You can more or less predict her PMQs or statements from whatever the week's big right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX are that week, regardless if they are in her party's strategic interests, and without bothering to check if are potent criticisms or niche takes that haven't escaped that bubble.

Compare that to Farage, who appears to have a far healthier relationship with that place in terms of treating it as a useful megaphone for his established talking points, but not being lured into thinking the frenzied discourse on there is representative or matters.

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

Difficult to see you're in a madhouse from the inside. I suspect we won't agree, as you'd accuse me of the same.

Right about Badenoch though isn't it? You can more or less predict her PMQs or statements from whatever the week's big right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX are that week, regardless if they are in her party's strategic interests, and without bothering to check if are potent criticisms or niche takes that haven't escaped that bubble.

Compare that to Farage, who appears to have a far healthier relationship with that place in terms of treating it as a useful megaphone for his established talking points, but not being lured into thinking the frenzied discourse on there is representative or matters.

kjh said:

kinabalu said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

QED

8 likes!

Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.

12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.

RochdalePioneers said:

Gardenwalker said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c

Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...

Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.

Do better, Britain!

Sat in Tesla Aberdeen as my car gets a warranty repair. The new uglier Model Y is available for order but not being delivered until at least May. There are only 12 unallocated Model Y dual motor e cars left in the UK and they aren't getting any more. That means there will be a drop in sales simply because they have no vehicles to sell. Yes, they have stock on the single motor Y but the best seller is the dual motor.

Fairliered said:

kjh said:

kinabalu said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

MJW said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Leon said:

kamski said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

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8 likes!

Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.

12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.

15 now. I give it a like just to annoy Leon.

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Theuniondivvie said:

Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.

Here's the BBC article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo

The picture caption says

"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"

Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day

Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno


https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1

Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.

Tut tut @Theuniondivvie

The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.

And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.

They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe it

amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?

It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brussels

As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens

If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast

On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad

Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.

The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.

Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.

I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble

This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right

Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings

I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.

TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.

As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.

Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.

And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivel

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Six now, keep up.

It's gone viral!

Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.

Odd hobby.

Leon is at his best when writing vivaciously but thoughtfully about something he knows a lot about.