Time for Badenoch to paint the canvas or others will – politicalbetting.com
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Unlike you to worry about American v Brit spelling. That's Luckyguy1983.Leon said:
“channelling”kinabalu said:
We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.TOPPING said:
Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
Why is that your go-to example.
But I'll take it. If we don't fight for our traditions who will.0 -
This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.TOPPING said:
Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.kinabalu said:
We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.TOPPING said:
Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
Why is that your go-to example.0 -
Move all their EU branches to East Germany and Hungary.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...0 -
You mean Starmer is subject to Mrs T's conceptual error of thinking the nation's finances are directly comparable with those of a family ?Fairliered said:
It’s called Inheritance Tax planning.eek said:
The idea that we are giving the land to them and still paying money for it is insane.kinabalu said:
When somebody asks you (as I imagine they must sometimes) how much you spend on carrots, do you first estimate how many times a month you have one, then times 12 to get your annual carrot trough, times the current cost per carrot, times the 25 years you hope to be eating carrots before the curtain falls and you go to the great hutch in the sky where carrots aren't available, and then uplift the total for projected inflation over those 25 years, and answer THREE THOUSAND POUNDS?Leon said:
I don’t believe the Chagos deal with go through now. It is so absurdly high profile and it could doom the government by itselfPulpstar said:
Come on, how will Starmer be able to show his face at Matrix Chambers to sue the UK for god knows what after he's booted out if he doesn't acquiesce with the right sort of opinions regarding ICJ rulings ?Leon said:
That’s within the MoE of a year without growth. Total stagnancyBig_G_NorthWales said:Bank of England cut rate to 4.5%
Growth forecast halved from 1.5 to .75
This government likely won’t recover from this disastrous beginning. Still, great time to give Mauritius £18bn, eh?
Think of how awkward the dinner parties with Sands and his friends will be.
Isn't £18 Bn a mere pittance to save Starmer from personal embarrassment ?!
People have no clue where these islands are, they mostly couldnt give a fuck, but EIGHTEEN BILLION QUID
There is no way you can spin that
There’s a very amusing TwiX thread saying “it’s like seeing a nice table in IKEA for sale for £175,000 and you go the till presuming it’s £175 because…. Surely not….”
It’s like gifting a house to your children and then paying rent to life there1 -
Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.kinabalu said:
It's gone viral!Mexicanpete said:
Six now, keep up.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Odd hobby.0 -
He's confident. Really puffed up. Like the gangster who's just taken out all his competitors.CatMan said:
I've thought for a few weeks that there's something different about Trump. He's still as bad as ever, but how he speaks and behaves isn't the same.Leon said:Trump is live on TV for the National Prayer Breakfast
He is cracking quite good jokes about his mad hair. This is a different man to Trump 1.0
I think it's because of the assassination attempt.
Sorry, not "like". He IS that.2 -
He's trying. That's the main thing.bondegezou said:
This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.TOPPING said:
Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.kinabalu said:
We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.TOPPING said:
Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
Why is that your go-to example.1 -
It’s was very predictable which PBs would be susceptible to the ol’ Trump charm.0
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Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...
Do better, Britain!1 -
We need the newly brilliant, newly confident Trumpite America to come home and save the mother country
Like the strapping son, long abroad, who sails into port just in time to rescue his aged granny from a house fire0 -
This point seems to escape people.bondegezou said:
We would be still paying money for it because we want to go on using it.eek said:
The idea that we are giving the land to them and still paying money for it is insane.kinabalu said:
When somebody asks you (as I imagine they must sometimes) how much you spend on carrots, do you first estimate how many times a month you have one, then times 12 to get your annual carrot trough, times the current cost per carrot, times the 25 years you hope to be eating carrots before the curtain falls and you go to the great hutch in the sky where carrots aren't available, and then uplift the total for projected inflation over those 25 years, and answer THREE THOUSAND POUNDS?Leon said:
I don’t believe the Chagos deal with go through now. It is so absurdly high profile and it could doom the government by itselfPulpstar said:
Come on, how will Starmer be able to show his face at Matrix Chambers to sue the UK for god knows what after he's booted out if he doesn't acquiesce with the right sort of opinions regarding ICJ rulings ?Leon said:
That’s within the MoE of a year without growth. Total stagnancyBig_G_NorthWales said:Bank of England cut rate to 4.5%
Growth forecast halved from 1.5 to .75
This government likely won’t recover from this disastrous beginning. Still, great time to give Mauritius £18bn, eh?
Think of how awkward the dinner parties with Sands and his friends will be.
Isn't £18 Bn a mere pittance to save Starmer from personal embarrassment ?!
People have no clue where these islands are, they mostly couldnt give a fuck, but EIGHTEEN BILLION QUID
There is no way you can spin that
There’s a very amusing TwiX thread saying “it’s like seeing a nice table in IKEA for sale for £175,000 and you go the till presuming it’s £175 because…. Surely not….”
It’s like gifting a house to your children and then paying rent to life there0 -
Partly because our market is so poorly served with alternatives ?Gardenwalker said:
Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...
Do better, Britain!0 -
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
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Believe he now posts here as (censored).Stark_Dawning said:
Interesting. There was a young guy who frequented my local pub back in my home town. Had always been a bit of a violent nutter. On one occasion he got up to the karaoke mike and started making racist rants about 'p*k*s' until the landlord told him to pipe down. Yet, a few years later, he was spotted hanging around with traditionally dressed young Muslim men. And after that he was pictured in The Mirror leading an anti-Covid-vaccine march in London.kinabalu said:
And we are all in that final group. Let nobody say otherwise.boulay said:…
Yes it’s only one way…kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
There are people who actively hope it’s a Muslim as it bolsters their world view.
There are people who actively hope it’s a far righty as it bolsters their world view.
There are people who hope it’s not a far righty as it questions their world view.
Thee are people who hope it’s not a Muslim as it questions their world view.
Then there are people who have managed to realise by now that it’s best to wait and see as it can be Muslim, far right or just mentally disturbed people.
Heard an interesting thing the other day. The point that there are some people (almost always young men) who are susceptible to violent extremism of any stripe. They might find it in the far right but could just as easily (the same person) find it in eco or religious fundamentalism or whatever.0 -
You will know better, but I thought the UK, unlike the EU, did not have significant tariffs on Chinese EVs.Nigelb said:
Partly because our market is so poorly served with alternatives ?Gardenwalker said:
Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...
Do better, Britain!
(Hence the farcical story about MoD buying a fleet of them and then advising staff not to discuss confidential matters while inside them.)0 -
Erm…. No?kjh said:
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED0 -
Palpating something, surely.Nigelb said:
Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.kinabalu said:
It's gone viral!Mexicanpete said:
Six now, keep up.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Odd hobby.0 -
Thought so. Says it all.Leon said:
Erm…. No?kjh said:
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED0 -
Crouch spills a Guinness down the jumper, which ruins it, and then wonders if this was his subconscious at work. Later he met Abbey who took care of all his styling needs.kamski said:
I thought that was going to be from some kind of UK fan-fiction version of American Psycho.DecrepiterJohnL said:
But before then came the biggest disaster of all, a Prada jumper from Harrods that even now makes me both angry and upset. By this stage I was doing alright financially. I could walk into a menswear department with optimism. And so when I saw this top with standard woollen arms but some weird half-cashmere, half-camelhair body, I thought, maybe, and when I tried it on and it fitted I thought, why not? To the till, a pleasant conversation ongoing with the shop assistant. Barcode under the scanner, a beep and a smile. ‘That will be £800, please.’ Eight hundred pounds! I was furious, first with the assistant and then myself. Why had there been no price on it? Actually that bit made sense. But why had he not warned me? Even worse, why did I then hand over my credit card, smoke coming out of my ears, rather than throwing the jumper in his face and the hanger on the floor? Instantly I resented the jumper too.Leon said:
I don’t believe the Chagos deal with go through now. It is so absurdly high profile and it could doom the government by itselfPulpstar said:
Come on, how will Starmer be able to show his face at Matrix Chambers to sue the UK for god knows what after he's booted out if he doesn't acquiesce with the right sort of opinions regarding ICJ rulings ?Leon said:
That’s within the MoE of a year without growth. Total stagnancyBig_G_NorthWales said:Bank of England cut rate to 4.5%
Growth forecast halved from 1.5 to .75
This government likely won’t recover from this disastrous beginning. Still, great time to give Mauritius £18bn, eh?
Think of how awkward the dinner parties with Sands and his friends will be.
Isn't £18 Bn a mere pittance to save Starmer from personal embarrassment ?!
People have no clue where these islands are, they mostly couldnt give a fuck, but EIGHTEEN BILLION QUID
There is no way you can spin that
There’s a very amusing TwiX thread saying “it’s like seeing a nice table in IKEA for sale for £175,000 and you go the till presuming it’s £175 because…. Surely not….”
Crouch, Peter. How to Be a Footballer.
Or maybe it is? How does the story go on?
It's an interesting book.1 -
Difficult to see you're in a madhouse from the inside. I suspect we won't agree, as you'd accuse me of the same.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Right about Badenoch though isn't it? You can more or less predict her PMQs or statements from whatever the week's big right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX are that week, regardless if they are in her party's strategic interests, and without bothering to check if are potent criticisms or niche takes that haven't escaped that bubble.
Compare that to Farage, who appears to have a far healthier relationship with that place in terms of treating it as a useful megaphone for his established talking points, but not being lured into thinking the frenzied discourse on there is representative or matters.1 -
Leon is at his best when writing vivaciously but thoughtfully about something he knows a lot about.Nigelb said:
Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.kinabalu said:
It's gone viral!Mexicanpete said:
Six now, keep up.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Odd hobby.
There was a particular post he did last October that was excellent. I can't recall exactly what it was about but it really hit the spot.0 -
So why did you choose to channel that thinking. Why bring up Muslims at all. Or is it in the name of "research".kinabalu said:
He's trying. That's the main thing.bondegezou said:
This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.TOPPING said:
Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.kinabalu said:
We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.TOPPING said:
Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
Why is that your go-to example.0 -
Classic unconscious bias by Kinabalu. Of course he will try to dissemble and divert.bondegezou said:
This is some weak ass trolling, Topping.TOPPING said:
Why would you amplify or, to use the dictionary definition, emulate or seem to be inspired by such thinking.kinabalu said:
We must ask the people I was channeling. It's a good question.TOPPING said:
Why do you mention the word Muslim in connection to a terrorist outrage.kinabalu said:
It's the only thing that matters to the 'multiculturalism doesn't work" crowd.Mexicanpete said:
Tbh does the creed or colour of a madman really matter?tlg86 said:
If it makes you feel better, my guess was white guy as it was at an educational setting. EDIT: and with a gun.Mexicanpete said:....
Eabhal said:
At least two people on PB did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
I believe the two likes Leon spuriously received for his post should removed by the embarrassed likers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Andy_JS did.Leon said:
No, no one didTheuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
That must annoy you
We shouldn't speculate but what are the chances it was someone who'd been told to leave the country.
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5109561/#Comment_5109561
A mass murder happens.
"Ooo great. Hope it's a muslim!"
It is ... a deluge of commentary ensues about how this can't go on, "enough is enough", close those borders, vote for those national populists, c'mon it's time, Trump shows the way, great big magnificent man.
It isn't ... what's for tea tonight?
Why is that your go-to example.0 -
Sat in Tesla Aberdeen as my car gets a warranty repair. The new uglier Model Y is available for order but not being delivered until at least May. There are only 12 unallocated Model Y dual motor e cars left in the UK and they aren't getting any more. That means there will be a drop in sales simply because they have no vehicles to sell. Yes, they have stock on the single motor Y but the best seller is the dual motor.Gardenwalker said:
Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...
Do better, Britain!1 -
NEW THREAD
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I see why you like Bluesky. You have the perfect mix of pomposity and humourlessnessMJW said:
Difficult to see you're in a madhouse from the inside. I suspect we won't agree, as you'd accuse me of the same.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Right about Badenoch though isn't it? You can more or less predict her PMQs or statements from whatever the week's big right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX are that week, regardless if they are in her party's strategic interests, and without bothering to check if are potent criticisms or niche takes that haven't escaped that bubble.
Compare that to Farage, who appears to have a far healthier relationship with that place in terms of treating it as a useful megaphone for his established talking points, but not being lured into thinking the frenzied discourse on there is representative or matters.0 -
Trump is a gobshite artist. Fabulous at politics - I give you that. But "save the mother country" means action is needed. And he's crap at that.Leon said:We need the newly brilliant, newly confident Trumpite America to come home and save the mother country
Like the strapping son, long abroad, who sails into port just in time to rescue his aged granny from a house fire0 -
For the last 24 hours, she has just been lambasted for doing the exact opposite of what you are saying she does. She spent this weeks PMQ talking about oil fields in the North Sea, much to the despair of the 'right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX ' who wanted her to talk about other stuff.MJW said:
Difficult to see you're in a madhouse from the inside. I suspect we won't agree, as you'd accuse me of the same.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Right about Badenoch though isn't it? You can more or less predict her PMQs or statements from whatever the week's big right-wing accounts' talking points on TwiX are that week, regardless if they are in her party's strategic interests, and without bothering to check if are potent criticisms or niche takes that haven't escaped that bubble.
Compare that to Farage, who appears to have a far healthier relationship with that place in terms of treating it as a useful megaphone for his established talking points, but not being lured into thinking the frenzied discourse on there is representative or matters.0 -
Musk has not Ratnered the brand, that's not the right term, but has surely alienated a lot of potential buyers. Who wants to own an expensive car whose image is no longer a cool, high tech way of saving whales but of a fascist-adjacent squillionaire lunatic?RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...1 -
15 now. I give it a like just to annoy Leon.kjh said:
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
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If not for NEW THREAD would it have broken the record?Fairliered said:
15 now. I give it a like just to annoy Leon.kjh said:
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED1 -
What is your impression of Tesla cars? My mate's one was very badly screwed together. They all look ugly, and often plasticky as well.RochdalePioneers said:
Sat in Tesla Aberdeen as my car gets a warranty repair. The new uglier Model Y is available for order but not being delivered until at least May. There are only 12 unallocated Model Y dual motor e cars left in the UK and they aren't getting any more. That means there will be a drop in sales simply because they have no vehicles to sell. Yes, they have stock on the single motor Y but the best seller is the dual motor.Gardenwalker said:
Disappointing to see sales dropping by a mere 8% in the UK.RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...
Do better, Britain!0 -
Fascists? And especially the rich, posh boy, fascist adjacent who don't want to be identified as a fascist but enjoy flirting with them....DecrepiterJohnL said:
Musk has not Ratnered the brand, that's not the right term, but has surely alienated a lot of potential buyers. Who wants to own an expensive car whose image is no longer a cool, high tech way of saving whales but of a fascist-adjacent squillionaire lunatic?RochdalePioneers said:Wheels may be falling off at Tesla. A precipitous drop in sales across Europe (despite big increases in sales of EVs) in Jan25 vs Jan 24 https://www.ft.com/content/ea2329e4-b4bc-4e2d-be34-e9a8ea31129c
Musk needs to be careful that this doesn't become a trend. He may be less bothered by European sales, but will surely take notice in Murica. Sales dropping steeply in California too...1 -
For some unaccountable reason (an intelligent AND balanced post on PB?) I gave it a like too.Fairliered said:
15 now. I give it a like just to annoy Leon.kjh said:
12 now. Wonder whether it ever crosses @leon mind that he is often (usually) wrong.kinabalu said:
Deservedly so but still insufficient. One of the best posts on PB ever. Talk about nailing something.Sunil_Prasannan said:
8 likes!Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED0 -
Erm there are topics he actually knows a lot about other than thinking he knows a lot about them?kinabalu said:
Leon is at his best when writing vivaciously but thoughtfully about something he knows a lot about.Nigelb said:
Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.kinabalu said:
It's gone viral!Mexicanpete said:
Six now, keep up.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Odd hobby.
There was a particular post he did last October that was excellent. I can't recall exactly what it was about but it really hit the spot.1 -
"Siri, give me an example of some Venn diagram circles that don't overlap....?"kinabalu said:
Leon is at his best when writing vivaciously but thoughtfully about something he knows a lot about.Nigelb said:
Meanwhile, Leon is palpating drivel.kinabalu said:
It's gone viral!Mexicanpete said:
Six now, keep up.Leon said:
And you get 4 likes for this palpable drivelMJW said:
I've been on both, and I'd say TwiX is far worse - it's really quite odd switching between the two. Yes, BlueSky has its leans and it is too homogenous than it would ideally be - but importantly it allows you to tailor your own experience so if you want to try and follow as broader range as people as possible, and ignore the nutters you can.Leon said:MJW said:
Of course misinformation will happen on any platform that reaches a certain size. The problem on TwiX is that the owner deliberately promotes it all the time - whether personally by sharing fake stories, or by shoving bullshit into your feed via the algorithm. It's become basically unusable as a gague of opinion or discussion, or even a pleasant place to look at for a bit of a laugh. It's just become another shitty part of the internet. 4chan for cowards.Leon said:
It’s a shame that Bruno Maceas has turned into a nutter. I’m not sure what did it, maybe Gaza, maybe something else. He used to be good value, During Brexit he was one of the few journalists willing to be equally critical of London and Brusselskamski said:
amazing how that keeps happening with some people and Twixter, isn't it?Leon said:
They deliberately clipped the screenshot to do some race-baiting, is all. And @Theuniondivvie fell for it, hook line and sporran. Because he WANTED to believe itkamski said:
The BBC article does seem to contain purely speculative bollocks, so should be criticised. But not for the reasons given by those twitterers. I've no idea who adamemedia is, but Bruno Maçães has a history of spreading misinformation.Leon said:
Tut tut @Theuniondivviekamski said:Theuniondivvie said:Good job no one speculated on the ethnicity of the Swedish shooter. No one did, right?
https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1887240710757490999?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
OK I followed your link, and as it's X it is of course bollocks.
Here's the BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm71dmkjjyo
The picture caption says
"Ismail Moradi told the BBC he fears there was a racial element to the shooting"
Can we just ban twitter from PB.com? it would reduce all the stupid misinformation that's posted here every day
Here's the same bollocks from that lying shit MacaesBruno
https://x.com/MacaesBruno/status/1887363904080138266/photo/1
Note how he has clipped the picture to omit the picture caption, and doesn't include any of the actual article.
And in his book The Dawn of Eurasia he heaps praise on ultra-nationalist Turkish politician Doğu Perinçek, who denies the Armenian holocaust, and supports Erdoğan and Putin.
As for TwiX do you think misinfo happens because of Musk? Noooo. It happens because TwiX is where shit happens
If Bluesky ever reaches 250m users and global salience then it too will be full of shit, and it will struggle to moderate it. It’s the nature of the beast
On the upside, the world may be coming to an end but I am nearly through the worst of my Tramadol withdrawal so it’s not all bad
The equivalent would be if Owen Jones, George Galloway, Corbyn and that woman who charges rich white people $2,000 to call them racist owned BlueSky and decided to push everything that accorded with some of their more objectionable views.
Ultimately that will probably become more of a problem for the right than the left (especially in the UK due to its American focus), as Twitter's much less drastic left lean ended up being for the left when it deluded activists that they'd won arguments because they got thousands of likes from people agreeing with them, but had put off and shut up those who didn't.
I take it you haven’t been to Bluesky then? If you want to see people trapped in a bubble, that’s where they are, and they are oblivious to the real world. And it’s a lefty bubble
This will be far worse for them than TwiX is for the right
Twats like @MattW hang out there and congratulate themselves on their good sense and finer feelings
TwiX by comparison feels like a lunatic asylum and radicalisation machine where you see people who were sensible six months ago spout demonstrably false nutter opinions because that's what's been relentlessly been pumped into their timelines every day by its ketamine-addled king.
As I think a friend - who is a bit pick and mix politically, doesn't like ultra-wokeness (and was once upon a time a fan of Elon) - said, he now prefers BlueSky while using both as while both have people spouting lunatic fringe opinions, on TwiX the angriest, maddest ones are the ones shoved in your face whether you like it or not, whereas BlueSky if you want to seek out people claiming pronouns make them feel unsafe, you can - but if you want to get on with life without that, it's easy.
Both are obviously not the real world, and their own ideological silos to some extent - but I suspect one of them has users slightly more self-aware about it than the other and we're already seeing an example of a right-wing politician floundering by spending too much time on TwiX - Kemi Badenoch.
QED
Odd hobby.2