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Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Neil said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

The Canadian pollsters

Canadian pollsters - about as successful as French military strategists?

You mean like at Yorktown? Austerlitz? Wagram?

Without the French at the Battle of Yorktown, Americans would be singing God Save The Queen before baseball games.

Wagram was bloody nearly Cannae with Napoleon as Varro!

Jena-Auerstadt

Bond_James_Bond said:

Neil said:

woody662 said:

BenM said:

So, as I thought would happen, the Tory Labour spending dossier and press conference turned into a bit of a car crash.

The Tories have nothing to boast about on the economy. And it shows.

What was the name of that spoof poster on here a few years ago, Adrian something?

Adrian Harper. Many have tried but few have succeeded in reaching similar heights of spoofdom.

I dunno. BenM and malcolmG are clearly not meant to be real.

I long had you down as a spoof except that you're not funny.

Richard_Nabavi said:

malcolmg said:

Fantasy Labour , you could not make it up. Their manifesto is whatever SNP say we will add 1000 to it..

That must be a spoof, surely?

It is real, hard to believe.

Time to up the bets on the SNP, methinks....

Neil said:

malcolmg said:

Fantasy Labour , you could not make it up. Their manifesto is whatever SNP say we will add 1000 to it.
https://twitter.com/scottishlabour/status/552067774995234816

PS and that is on top of sticking to the Tory spending budget.

Jesus but that has to be one of the most desperate and ridiculous election pledges ever. Presumably free lollypops for all was vetoed.

If I were Scottish, I'd vote for whichever party was best placed to beat Labour, including the SNP, after seeing that dreck.

I'm willing to stake 25 quid on Labour having zero to 3 MPs in Scotland.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, is that genuine, or a spoof account [the 95% tweet not the poster]?

The Conservatives should put it on a campaign poster.

If they put it on a poster, it would only help Labour. "Give the South East a kicking" would be wildly popular everywhere in the UK apart from the SE itself.

Richard_Nabavi said:

@jimmurphymp: We will fund #1000Nurses using money Scotland gets from a mansion tax across UK. 95% will be levied in the South East of UK.

Oh, so they wont be devolving the mansion tax to Holyrood then. So much for Home Rule.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Neil said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

The Canadian pollsters

Canadian pollsters - about as successful as French military strategists?

You mean like at Yorktown? Austerlitz? Wagram?

Without the French at the Battle of Yorktown, Americans would be singing God Save The Queen before baseball games.

Wagram was bloody nearly Cannae with Napoleon as Varro!

Jena-Auerstadt

I'll see your Jena-Auerstadt and I'll raise you the Six Days' Campaign (the successive battles of Champaubert, Montmirail, Chateau-Thierry, and Vauchamps) - four victories between 10 and 15 February 1814!

Mr. 565, taxing the English to pay for Scottish nurses would not be.

Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Neil said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

The Canadian pollsters

Canadian pollsters - about as successful as French military strategists?

You mean like at Yorktown? Austerlitz? Wagram?

Without the French at the Battle of Yorktown, Americans would be singing God Save The Queen before baseball games.

Wagram was bloody nearly Cannae with Napoleon as Varro!

Jena-Auerstadt

I'll see your Jena-Auerstadt and I'll raise you the Six Days' Campaign (the successive battles of Champaubert, Montmirail, Chateau-Thierry, Vauchamps) - four victories between 10 and 15 February 1814!

There was also Friedland!

Danny565 said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, is that genuine, or a spoof account [the 95% tweet not the poster]?

The Conservatives should put it on a campaign poster.

If they put it on a poster, it would only help Labour. "Give the South East a kicking" would be wildly popular everywhere in the UK apart from the SE itself.

I'm happy to stick my neck out on this.

Extra taxes on the English, to fund additional public spending on the Scottish, will go down like a cup of cold sick, South of the Border.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I'm willing to stake 25 quid on Labour having zero to 3 MPs in Scotland.

And how many will Labour have left in London.....?

Mr. F, UKIP should bang on about it as well (could be a chance for them to emphasise the UK rather than IP aspect of the party).

Scottish Labour do appear to be so stupid and vindictive they're actually going to harm Labour in England. No wonder the SNP are treating them like Hannibal treated Varro.

Neil said:

Danny565 said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, is that genuine, or a spoof account [the 95% tweet not the poster]?

The Conservatives should put it on a campaign poster.

If they put it on a poster, it would only help Labour. "Give the South East a kicking" would be wildly popular everywhere in the UK apart from the SE itself.

They might put it on posters in the south east only though. Tories can be crafty like that.

By my reckoning, Labour has about 20 target seats in London and the South East.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Bond_James_Bond said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Neil said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

The Canadian pollsters

Canadian pollsters - about as successful as French military strategists?

You mean like at Yorktown? Austerlitz? Wagram?

Without the French at the Battle of Yorktown, Americans would be singing God Save The Queen before baseball games.

Wagram was bloody nearly Cannae with Napoleon as Varro!

Jena-Auerstadt

I'll see your Jena-Auerstadt and I'll raise you the Six Days' Campaign (the successive battles of Champaubert, Montmirail, Chateau-Thierry, Vauchamps) - four victories between 10 and 15 February 1814!

There was also Friedland!

The man was class.

The best thing about the 1814 campaign is that it makes Wellington look better in 1815. If Napoleon had been crap for 10 years before Waterloo it would be easier for the diehards to claim that Wellington survived only because Napoleon was past it. In fact the dodgy Eyetie was clearly well on top of "it" as recently as 16 months before, since when he'd had a nice long rest!

Neil said:

Danny565 said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, is that genuine, or a spoof account [the 95% tweet not the poster]?

The Conservatives should put it on a campaign poster.

If they put it on a poster, it would only help Labour. "Give the South East a kicking" would be wildly popular everywhere in the UK apart from the SE itself.

They might put it on posters in the south east only though. Tories can be crafty like that.

Sneaky !

It's very tragic to see devolution biting Labour on the arse like this. But it's refreshing to see that Jim Murphy is clearly not running a branch office.

Richard_Nabavi said:

The other curious thing about those SLAB tweets is that they suggest we're going to have to revise our opinions of Jim Murphy. What on earth has got into the guy (other than panic, of course)? I'd always thought of him as one of the smart Labour figures.

I guess he wants to hold his seat :-)

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

Something had to take the place of the obsession with Salmond's wife.

The latest potential saviour of The Rangers is, as the Sun put it, a hoops man.

http://tinyurl.com/p7e6l5o

Mr. Price, tragic? It's watching an idiot who fed a dragon suddenly feel its fiery breath.

On Dunbartonshire East, the patent antifrank SNP detector predicts the following result:

Lib Dems 20.2%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 14.1%
SNP 33.1%
Others 1.6%
Turnout 83%

antifrank said:

On Dunbartonshire East, the patent antifrank SNP detector predicts the following result:

Lib Dems 20.2%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 14.1%
SNP 33.1%
Others 1.6%
Turnout 83%

Excellent. Like others, I'm on Labour at 1/2 and the SNP at 50/1

Danny565 said:

Sean_F said:

Danny565 said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Nabavi, is that genuine, or a spoof account [the 95% tweet not the poster]?

The Conservatives should put it on a campaign poster.

If they put it on a poster, it would only help Labour. "Give the South East a kicking" would be wildly popular everywhere in the UK apart from the SE itself.

I'm happy to stick my neck out on this.

Extra taxes on the English, to fund additional public spending on the Scottish, will go down like a cup of cold sick, South of the Border.

If it's only for Scotland, then yes. If it's for the whole of the UK, then no.

I honestly think among the average northerner, there is more resentment towards the South East (and London) than there is towards Scotland.

How do you think the Conservatives are going to present this promise of higher taxes South of the Border, to fund public spending North of the Border, to the English electorate?

Please don't take my Scottish seat prognostications too seriously. "Rough and ready" doesn't begin to cover it. Not to mention it takes no account of tactical voting considerations.

I'll try to put together a full list and see what that shows. I'm about halfway through right now. I'm not quite as extreme as the Canadians - I've found a few Labour holds.

Richard_Nabavi said:

antifrank said:

On Dunbartonshire East, the patent antifrank SNP detector predicts the following result:

Lib Dems 20.2%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 14.1%
SNP 33.1%
Others 1.6%
Turnout 83%

Excellent. Like others, I'm on Labour at 1/2 and the SNP at 50/1

Anyone want to lay me the Lib dems?

I think Swinson is going to hold on.

Socrates said:

Has Jim Murphy deleted that tweet? I can't see it there now.

It's a Scottish Labour tweet.

Pong said:

Ed's going to have to reign in the branch office. If this is how SLAB plans to fight the SNP, then it's going to hurt labour in the english cities.

But he can't. So sad.

A pound shop Ben Elton...???

I'd sue. If I was Ben Elton.

Pulpstar said:

Pong said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

antifrank said:

On Dunbartonshire East, the patent antifrank SNP detector predicts the following result:

Lib Dems 20.2%
Labour 31%
Conservatives 14.1%
SNP 33.1%
Others 1.6%
Turnout 83%

Excellent. Like others, I'm on Labour at 1/2 and the SNP at 50/1

Anyone want to lay me the Lib dems?

I think Swinson is going to hold on.

Paddy Power is 9-4 on the Lib Dems there now.

I got 7/2 on Betfair, I'm fishing for 4/1 or higher before Ashcroft polls it

Pulpstar said:

antifrank said:

Please don't take my Scottish seat prognostications too seriously. "Rough and ready" doesn't begin to cover it. Not to mention it takes no account of tactical voting considerations.

I'll try to put together a full list and see what that shows. I'm about halfway through right now. I'm not quite as extreme as the Canadians - I've found a few Labour holds.

Willie Bain ?

Yes, he just holds on, though his seat becomes a marginal.

Is there a book being made on the total number of hospitals declaring a "major incident" this winter?
3 so far.
(edit to correct lazy spell checker use)

taffys said:

A pound shop Ben Elton...???

I'd sue. If I was Ben Elton.

I'd sue. If I was pound shop.

Neil said:

MarqueeMark said:

SLAB is so screwed when the SNP pledges an infinite number of new nurses.....

I can still Sturgeon letting out an evil laugh, putting her left pinky up to the corner of her mouth and cackling, "one MILLION nurses ... oh, wait...".

Sturgeon going from Wee Jimmy Krankie to Dr. evil is quite a shift....

@TheWatcher
It was nice of the Tories to make them all redundant, then hire them back on, wasn't it?

TGOHF said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Neil said:

TGOHF said:

Alistair said:

TGOHF said:

Pulpstar said:

http://www.ukelect.co.uk/HTML/forecasts/20150103ForecastUK.html

SNP on 51 seats ? Are they asking secret Canadians ?

SMAPS has them on 57.

Guido picking up the "secret Canadians bull shine"

http://order-order.com/2015/01/05/social-media-sentiment-is-a-myth-just-ask-alex-salmond/

What on earth is this Canadians thing all about? Is it a reference to the latest group of people meant to save Rangers from insolvency?

Something had to take the place of the obsession with Salmond's wife.

The latest potential saviour of The Rangers is, as the Sun put it, a hoops man.

http://tinyurl.com/p7e6l5o

You believe this nonsense divvy ? Figures.

I believe a 'The Rangers' fan should think long and hard before accusing anyone of credulity.

DavidL said:

So on the same day as Balls is accusing the Tories of lying about "uncosted" spending commitments SLAB are making an absolutely open ended commitment to spend more money on nurses, no matter what?

I mean, seriously, how can you vote tactically for this sort of rubbish?

And the tweet about the Mansion tax. Crass beyond belief. And it is already spent isn't it? http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-labours-mansion-tax

Is that the Unionist alliance stuffed in the first week of 2015?

DavidL said:

So on the same day as Balls is accusing the Tories of lying about "uncosted" spending commitments SLAB are making an absolutely open ended commitment to spend more money on nurses, no matter what?

I mean, seriously, how can you vote tactically for this sort of rubbish?

And the tweet about the Mansion tax. Crass beyond belief. And it is already spent isn't it? http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-labours-mansion-tax

Surely the sensible No voting majority in Scotland must be looking at The Scot LDs and Scottish Conservatives more positively? With SLAB going bonkers and SNP not to everyones taste there must be better prospects for a thrifty Unionist party?

taffys said:

Have the Conservatives told us how they will fund their £7 billion tax cut yet?

Labour = fiscal incontinence
Conservatives = fiscal incontinence and cash back

Yes. Ask the OBR. The govt plan to create a 23 billion surplus by 2020.

One million public sector jobs will be lost in the 2015-20 parliament, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), on top of the 400,000 axed since 2010. But it predicted that 1.8m private sector jobs will be created.

foxinsoxuk said:

DavidL said:

So on the same day as Balls is accusing the Tories of lying about "uncosted" spending commitments SLAB are making an absolutely open ended commitment to spend more money on nurses, no matter what?

I mean, seriously, how can you vote tactically for this sort of rubbish?

And the tweet about the Mansion tax. Crass beyond belief. And it is already spent isn't it? http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-labours-mansion-tax

Surely the sensible No voting majority in Scotland must be looking at The Scot LDs and Scottish Conservatives more positively? With SLAB going bonkers and SNP not to everyones taste there must be better prospects for a thrifty Unionist party?

There isn't the slightest sign of that in the opinion polls as yet.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Antifrank, it'll be interesting to see to what degree the dismemberment of Scottish Labour's mad poster/pledge affects the polls.

I expect that it will cement the SNP lead and otherwise not do much. It may make it harder for Scottish Labour to attract tactical votes from the likes of DavidL though.

In other news...

@thetimes: Panic as euro hits nine-year low against the dollar http://t.co/9ZYA2LaFXp (Pic: Reuters) http://t.co/jaQcfD129U

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Antifrank, it'll be interesting to see to what degree the dismemberment of Scottish Labour's mad poster/pledge affects the polls.

TBF I doubt if many ordinary voters will notice.

To me it's interesting more because of the desperation it reveals at SLAB.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Antifrank, it'll be interesting to see to what degree the dismemberment of Scottish Labour's mad poster/pledge affects the polls.

My guess is: not at all.

Cyclefree said:

Patrick said:

I just received an email from George Osborne. A reasonably nicely balanced bit of trumpet blowing and scaremongering. It ends with:

The choice at the next election is clear.
Continue on the road to a stronger economy with a competent Conservative team that have a long-term plan.
Or choose the chaos of Labour's £20.7 billion unfunded spending promises, higher taxes and more borrowing which would take us back to square one.

I agree - but remain to be convinced everyone else does. He's playing the left brain/common sense/logic card. But Labour is playing the NHS religion /left brain/Joseph Goebbels playbook card.

As the irreplaceable George Carlin once said: “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” Labour know this.

Isn't the obvious answer for the Tories to say that Labour means YOU will pay HIGHER taxes i.e. make it personal.

Re 'scaremongering' ...
''Ed Miliband denies scaremongering after claiming NHS would vanish under Conservatives''
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11325549/Ed-Miliband-denies-scaremongering-after-claiming-NHS-would-vanish-under-Conservatives.html
And for those who do not think Labour's lost votes have not come from its anti nuclear peacnik wing he also said ... ''he would like to see Britain give up its nuclear weapons in the long term in concert with other atomic powers''. Clearly he does.
More reasons if there were not already not enough to realise that it is Labour who pose the biggest clear and present danger to the UK.

Punters on Clegg should note ... ''Mr Miliband said he will personally campaign against Nick Clegg, who is facing an insurgency from Labour in Sheffield Hallam.''

Theuniondivvie said:

DavidL said:

So on the same day as Balls is accusing the Tories of lying about "uncosted" spending commitments SLAB are making an absolutely open ended commitment to spend more money on nurses, no matter what?

I mean, seriously, how can you vote tactically for this sort of rubbish?

And the tweet about the Mansion tax. Crass beyond belief. And it is already spent isn't it? http://www.labour.org.uk/blog/entry/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-labours-mansion-tax

Is that the Unionist alliance stuffed in the first week of 2015?

Well, they are not making it easy!

antifrank said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Antifrank, it'll be interesting to see to what degree the dismemberment of Scottish Labour's mad poster/pledge affects the polls.

I expect that it will cement the SNP lead and otherwise not do much. It may make it harder for Scottish Labour to attract tactical votes from the likes of DavidL though.

You are telling me!

Idiots. Labour just don't know how to handle a party that promises to outspend them. Probably never happened before to any material extent although they did struggle with Tommy Sheridan and his groupies a few years ago.