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  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,207
    edited December 2024
    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe because in a lot of those places it isn't normal for pedestrians to cross roads outside of strictly-defined locations.
    Imo that's not quite right from from Leon and Andy_JS.

    Historically US cities were built for the horse, horse and cart or coach, and people walking.

    What happened is that the motor industry lobby took control of the process via US money-based rather than people-based politics, and newer areas have been designed to exclude non-motor-vehicle forms of transport in part via zoning laws starting from around 1900 - using features such as non-mixed use areas. Then it gets into a conditioning loop where Usonians lost sight of the idea that they do not have to be drones, and that they can choose how they want to live.

    In older areas quite often they have literally been semi-demolished to make way for roads and parking. You don't walk the dog or the old person or the disabled relative; you put them in your truck, drive them to wherever you want to walk them, and walk them in that place. Here we still normally just walk to the local park or public footpath or multiuser trail etc, pretty much everywhere.

    "Get them out of our way" jaywalking laws are part of that.

    One of the more interesting things are how developing countries have over the last 2 generations in places largely adopted the crazy Usonian model, which dying. Pity Shanghai and Beijing.
  • CHartCHart Posts: 106
    Omnium said:

    Your allowing the veils to blind you as to the lady's charm. AI is absolutely nowhere in terms of thinking, understanding, or being. It's just a very effective charade.
    I would be very careful.investing in the mag 7 at these levels. Market getting very one sided.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    CHart said:

    I would be very careful.investing in the mag 7 at these levels. Market getting very one sided.
    I've no idea what that means.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,946

    Expecially given the economic issues on the continent. The pre-Brexit wave of immigration from the EU wasn't just from the accession countries but also from people in "old Europe" fleeing unemployment.
    Have you never seen Au Wiedesehen Pet?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,297
    Omnium said:

    Your allowing the veils to blind you as to the lady's charm. AI is absolutely nowhere in terms of thinking, understanding, or being. It's just a very effective charade.
    Aren't we all, darling, aren't we all?

    *faints away dramatically*
  • Driverless vehicles regulatory software was an option for sale at the local gov conf this summer.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    Leon said:

    Aren't we all, darling, aren't we all?

    *faints away dramatically*
    In that frock!
  • Absolutely certifiably insane.

    Are their asylum claims still valid? No? Well toodleoo then.
    Legally the claims absolutely will still be valid.

    We still define HTS as a proscribed terrorist organisation. It is far too premature to claim Syria is now "safe".

    So the question is what happens with people who still have a legal right to remain here, but could potentially be tempted to return despite having a right to remain.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406
    edited December 2024

    Have you never seen Au Wiedesehen Pet?
    Yes, and having lived in the North East, I could understand the actors, too.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,144
    "Why Kemi Badenoch keeps misfiring
    The Conservative leader appears to have somehow missed the 2024 election result.
    By George Eaton"

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/conservatives/2024/12/why-kemi-badenoch-keeps-misfiring
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,207

    When I lived in London I gave up the car, as public transport was so good and finding somewhere to park was so expensive. Living in rural Oxfordshire as I do now it feels impossible.
    It is also a matter of degree, surely?

    For a couple a switch from two cars to one-and-a-runabout, or to one-and-a-car-club-for-big-loads are possible, then to one-and-walk-or-cycle-locally.

    Then if possible you can choose to go further.

    These are models we can choose to make impossible or make possible, by how we design our built environment.

    Current issues are around where dominance by motor transport removes the possibility of choice, and vested interests that benefit, or believe they benefit, from maintenance of that social setup.

    We need to be intentional around creating the possibility of choices.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,881
    edited December 2024
    Feels like someone has finally heard me banging my head against that particular wall for the last decade plus.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/15/traumatise-children-education-london-academies-schools
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,946
    ...

    Yes, and having lived in the North East, I could understand the actors, too.
    I mentioned it as a counterpoint to @williamglenn 's assertion that old Europe came over here to steal our jobs (and there was no reciprocation).

    Mind you It was odd casting that the Brummie was played by a Londoner and the Bristolian by a Brummie.
  • We've always had economic migrants. From the Irish digging the canals to post war school teachers from Wales. Also in the other direction North East English miners to the Carmarthenshire coal fields. These people assimilate into society despite the NE miners families being referred to as the Durham's for three generations. Same with the EU. We had the Windrush generation. The World goes around..

    In order to manipulate the figures the Sunak Government sold the Higher Education industry down the river.

    Boris Johnson told us after Brexit that when Eastern Europeans whom he didn't like went home we could welcome " our friends from South East Asia" which was nice of him. Now it doesn't bother me but you Johnsonians are barking on about Johnny Foreigner yet Alexander Johnson said it would be fine. And of course he was famous for getting all the big calls right.
    There's a difference between economic migrants whose numbers and type are controlled and economic migrants who are unrestricted.

    Which is why richer and skilled immigrants are more popular than poorer and unskilled immigrants and why migrants who come to work in health and social care are more popular than those who come to wash cars.

    Incidentally Starmer criticizes the Conservatives for a 'open borders experiment' even though the type of immigrants was more controlled than previously.

    Having free movement with the EU again would be an actual open borders experiment.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493

    Have you never seen Au Wiedesehen Pet?
    I said “pre-Brexit wave”. We’ve had far too much job creation in the UK.
  • If Labour suggested paying people to leave the Tories would immediately say it is a bad use of money.
  • MattW said:

    It is also a matter of degree, surely?

    For a couple a switch from two cars to one-and-a-runabout, or to one-and-a-car-club-for-big-loads are possible, then to one-and-walk-or-cycle-locally.

    Then if possible you can choose to go further.

    These are models we can choose to make impossible or make possible, by how we design our built environment.

    Current issues are around where dominance by motor transport removes the possibility of choice, and vested interests that benefit, or believe they benefit, from maintenance of that social setup.

    We need to be intentional around creating the possibility of choices.
    Where I live, a new build area, it's been built with both in mind.

    I have my own off road parking, and every road that has been built has cycle paths.

    I can ride my bike with my kids to the local park at the weekend, or I can drive to work, the choice is mine and mine alone.

    No reason it needs to be all one or all the other. And by building more roads we can build infrastructure that supports both options.
  • Leon said:

    Coming to a country near you

    "Denmark offers €27,000 to Syrian refugees for voluntary return, plus €6,700 per child, under a repatriation program.

    Source: Bild"

    https://x.com/clashreport/status/1868211741819392329

    What's to stop them from returning to Denmark under a different identity and claiming another £27k ?

    Even easier if more countries offer similar schemes.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400

    If Labour suggested paying people to leave the Tories would immediately say it is a bad use of money.

    Great shovels and compactors you think? It's paying people to stay that's the main problem.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,477
    ...
    Andy_JS said:

    "Why Kemi Badenoch keeps misfiring
    The Conservative leader appears to have somehow missed the 2024 election result.
    By George Eaton"

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/conservatives/2024/12/why-kemi-badenoch-keeps-misfiring

    Meh. Stupid and self-serving left winger column that basically equates to 'Badenoch should fight Reform for us'.

    Mandy Rice Davis obviously applies, but whilst criticism of Badenoch is justified, why would 'apologising for Liz Truss' be a genius move? Would it be an amazing move for Starmer to issue an apology for Jeremy Corbyn?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613
    IanB2 said:

    A priori, the former is no less credible than the latter; hence all that time spent sitting around inventing religions in ancient times was wasted, assuming you actually expect them to explain anything.

    Even in the latter case, there’s no evidence nor logic for worshipping such an entity, who might very credibly be malign, or indifferent, as the evidence of history strongly suggests.
    Take the Buddhist approach:

    Is there a god? It doesn't matter either way.
  • ...

    Meh. Stupid and self-serving left winger column that basically equates to 'Badenoch should fight Reform for us'.

    Mandy Rice Davis obviously applies, but whilst criticism of Badenoch is justified, why would 'apologising for Liz Truss' be a genius move? Would it be an amazing move for Starmer to issue an apology for Jeremy Corbyn?
    Yes.

    Starmer expelled Corbyn from the Party.
  • CHartCHart Posts: 106
    Omnium said:

    I've no idea what that means.
    The mag 7 are the leading ai companies like nvidia and microsoft.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    CHart said:

    The mag 7 are the leading ai companies like nvidia and microsoft.
    Ah, I see - what does the market being one sided mean? Surely a market has equal numbers of buyers and sellers? Also why do you imagine I might invest in such things?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,615

    First of all the chap himself won't pay it. Secondly I don't understand the calculations. Is he saying that the inheritance tax his children will pay has gone from £200,000 to £640,000 AND that the children will have to pay a further £360,000?

    I have to say I find that surprising.
    I don’t read the telegraph

    But I assume that they have assumed (a) inheritance tax on his pension (charge of £440k) leaving approximately £750k on which they will pay income tax as they draw it down
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493
    https://nypost.com/2024/12/15/us-news/feds-to-deploy-high-tech-system-to-ny-as-drone-swarms-have-experts-baffled/

    Federal officials are set to deploy a high-tech drone detection system to New York State as swarms of unidentified flying objects popping up in the tri-state area continue to leave experts perplexed.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,709
    A day as overcast as a Viking's arse has suddenly revealed an unexpectedly dramatic sunset.
    I love living at 53 degrees north. In the afternoons and evenings, anyway.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,881
    edited December 2024

    Take the Buddhist approach:

    Is there a god? It doesn't matter either way.
    Not sure that's precisely the mainstream Buddhist view.
  • Its bizarre how Auf Wiedersehen, Pet is brought up as some justification for freedom of movement.

    A fictional TV series from over 40 years ago about some people struggling on the margins of society - criminals, unemployed, failed marriages etc.

    Note also, it was the ability to work tax free which was a big inducement for Dennis, Oz etc to move to Germany - when that tax incentive is removed they decide to return.

    And after all its hardly likely than any current British construction workers are going to have to emigrate to find work is it.

    A better justification for freedom of movement would be that the UK is going to have to find some place to dump millions of indebted graduates whose career hopes have been destroyed by AI and globalisation.

    Although given the lack of language skills among British people there's no reason to believe they would do any better elsewhere.
  • dixiedean said:

    Feels like someone has finally heard me banging my head against that particular wall for the last decade plus.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/15/traumatise-children-education-london-academies-schools

    If one were a teeny weeny bit world-weary, one could wonder if having friends in high places has meant that some schools have not had quite as fearless scrutiny as they should have done.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613
    dixiedean said:

    Not sure that's precisely the mainstream Buddhist view.
    Well it was taught by the Buddha.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,615

    I don’t read the telegraph

    But I assume that they have assumed (a) inheritance tax on his pension (charge of £440k) leaving approximately £750k on
    which they will pay income tax as they draw it down
    Edit: read the article (thanks @mattw) and was spot on. I don’t have sympathy on the inheritance tax point, but I do think the draw down penalty is unfair. Once inheritance tax has been paid surely the capital should be treated as outside a pension and therefore no longer subject to the drawdown rules (but interest would be subject to income tax obviously)
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,946
    edited December 2024

    Its bizarre how Auf Wiedersehen, Pet is brought up as some justification for freedom of movement.

    A fictional TV series from over 40 years ago about some people struggling on the margins of society - criminals, unemployed, failed marriages etc.

    Note also, it was the ability to work tax free which was a big inducement for Dennis, Oz etc to move to Germany - when that tax incentive is removed they decide to return.

    And after all its hardly likely than any current British construction workers are going to have to emigrate to find work is it.

    A better justification for freedom of movement would be that the UK is going to have to find some place to dump millions of indebted graduates whose career hopes have been destroyed by AI and globalisation.

    Although given the lack of language skills among British people there's no reason to believe they would do any better elsewhere.

    Fictional? I thought it was a documentary.

    I am also intellectually rather shallow.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613

    https://nypost.com/2024/12/15/us-news/feds-to-deploy-high-tech-system-to-ny-as-drone-swarms-have-experts-baffled/

    Federal officials are set to deploy a high-tech drone detection system to New York State as swarms of unidentified flying objects popping up in the tri-state area continue to leave experts perplexed.

    So why haven't the military tried to intercept any of these things?

    Maybe because they are flying them.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,477

    Yes.

    Starmer expelled Corbyn from the Party.
    Irrelevant. For Starmer to go back and apologise for the Corbyn era would be a ludicrously stupid way to shine a spotlight on a weak area, and the Tories would love it. The same applies to Eaton's idea of Badenoch 'apologising' for Truss.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,144

    I don’t read the telegraph

    But I assume that they have assumed (a) inheritance tax on his pension (charge of £440k) leaving approximately £750k on which they will pay income tax as they draw it down
    The figures are from the person writing the letter, not calculated by the Telegraph.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,008

    I don't like the current Russian regime, and LOL at any ships they lose. But it can't be nice to be on a ship and to see even your bow is giving you the finger.

    https://x.com/AussieSteve64/status/1868266436734726647/video/2

    (Apparently two Russian ships broke up this morning in the Kerch Strait.)

    could not happen to a nicer lot
  • Fictional? I thought it was a documentary.

    I am also intellectually rather shallow.
    Clearly not - the episode when Dennis and Oz go to see Standard Liege versus Sunderland was the big giveaway.

    Real life Newcastle fans would never have done that.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,564
    Leon said:

    Students are all using bots to write essays. First class degrees are becoming the norm. Universities are hurtling towards pointlessness, kids will not take on debt to get worthless degrees that don’t lead to a decent job

    Imagine a world where intelligence has a value close to zero, because intelligence will be everywhere and freely available. That’s the future and there ain’t much room for the university
    Only if you assume AI automatically becomes the oracle of all intelligence and fact and skill, in which case most jobs would be done by AI anyway
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,400
    malcolmg said:

    could not happen to a nicer lot
    Russians swarm around the UK still. Putin - 'nothing to do with us' they say. Having thought about this a little I think that all Russian citizens are responsible for Putin. Thus all Russian citizens should be booted out of the UK and generally treated as though they were Putin. This includes dual citizens.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,008
    Taz said:

    I can assure you you’re not.
    I would not watch if forced, feckin crap
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,564

    I think the break point is when kids go to senior school. At infant/Junior school there is a general acceptance that no one mentions the reality even if there is a nod and a wink amongst the oldest children. Once they are going up to senior school the aim is to ensure that, even if they are still pretending to believe, they don't expose themselves to ridicule or a hard landing from the bigger kids.

    But the bottom line is the vicar was being a complete arse. Particularly for someone who believes in another non existent mythical being.
    A spokesperson for the Diocese of Portsmouth said: “We understand that the vicar of St Faith’s, Lee-on-the-Solent, the Rev Paul Chamberlain, was leading an RE lesson for 10- and 11-year-olds at Lee-on-Solent junior school.

    “After talking about the nativity story from the Bible, he made some comments about the existence of Father Christmas.

    “Paul has accepted that this was an error of judgment, and he should not have done so. He apologised unreservedly to the school, to the parents and to the children, and the headteacher immediately wrote to all parents to explain this.

    “The school and diocese have worked together to address this issue, and the headteacher has now written to parents a second time, sending them Paul’s apology.”

    God is real of course, as is Santa
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406
    malcolmg said:

    could not happen to a nicer lot
    Got to be sorry for the matelots, though, surely.
  • Unfortunately our planning system gives permission to these developers to develop large estates, while denying permission to small developments by independent could-be developers.

    In Japan where permission is not required to build most development happens on demand, when and where it is needed, one house at a time.

    In the UK, where permission can be got by the developers who can game the system while nonody else can, we get entire estates or nothing with no real competition.
    Simply irrelevant to what I wrote as well as being factually wrong. Apart from that well done.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406

    Clearly not - the episode when Dennis and Oz go to see Standard Liege versus Sunderland was the big giveaway.

    Real life Newcastle fans would never have done that.
    Might have done; to support Standard Liege!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406
    HYUFD said:

    A spokesperson for the Diocese of Portsmouth said: “We understand that the vicar of St Faith’s, Lee-on-the-Solent, the Rev Paul Chamberlain, was leading an RE lesson for 10- and 11-year-olds at Lee-on-Solent junior school.

    “After talking about the nativity story from the Bible, he made some comments about the existence of Father Christmas.

    “Paul has accepted that this was an error of judgment, and he should not have done so. He apologised unreservedly to the school, to the parents and to the children, and the headteacher immediately wrote to all parents to explain this.

    “The school and diocese have worked together to address this issue, and the headteacher has now written to parents a second time, sending them Paul’s apology.”

    God is real of course, as is Santa
    I reckon the Rev Chamberlain should have kept his head well down. Probably made things worse now.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613

    Clearly not - the episode when Dennis and Oz go to see Standard Liege versus Sunderland was the big giveaway.

    Real life Newcastle fans would never have done that.
    They would. Supporting Liege.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,542
    edited December 2024

    Its bizarre how Auf Wiedersehen, Pet is brought up as some justification for freedom of movement.

    A fictional TV series from over 40 years ago about some people struggling on the margins of society - criminals, unemployed, failed marriages etc.

    Note also, it was the ability to work tax free which was a big inducement for Dennis, Oz etc to move to Germany - when that tax incentive is removed they decide to return.

    And after all its hardly likely than any current British construction workers are going to have to emigrate to find work is it.

    A better justification for freedom of movement would be that the UK is going to have to find some place to dump millions of indebted graduates whose career hopes have been destroyed by AI and globalisation.

    Although given the lack of language skills among British people there's no reason to believe they would do any better elsewhere.

    At least it's a step above "Paddington bear was an immigrant, you know!" which, as far as I know, has no inspiration in reality.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406

    They would. Supporting Liege.
    Snap!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,613
    Am I the only PBer to have stood in the away end at Standard Liege?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406
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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    Dopermean said:

    Well the solution seems fairly clear, he needs to die before 2027 for tax reasons.
    Where do I send the invoice?
    Or alternatively draw the pension himself. Pensions are a provision for old age, not an IHT dodge.

    It would have to be a large estate too if his allowance is all used up.
  • carnforth said:

    At least it's a step above "Paddington bear was an immigrant, you know!" which, as far as I know, has no inspiration in reality.
    The man who brought Paddington's stories to the attention of the world might disagree;

    So Paddington, in a sense, was a refugee, and I do think that there’s no sadder sight than refugees

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddington_Bear
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,207
    The ABC - Trump defamation settlement is strange. AIUI Stephanopoulus described Trump as an adjudicated rapist (in accordance with NY Court findings) on his programme, and Trump sued him for defamation because he seems OK with "sex abuser", but not with "rapist".

    Deposition hearings were coming up, with Trump due to be on oath on video being interviewed by ABC lawyers about what he understands about the difference, his alleged history of sex abuse, ogling half-naked teenage girls in the changing rooms at his beauty pageants, grabbing women by the pussy, and so on.

    ABC have folded, and agreed to pay legal costs and $15m to be used in Trump's Presidential Library.

    The last time this was up was when Trump sued Michael Cohen for $500m for defamation in connection with statements made. Cohen held his line, and Trump collapsed his own case the day before the hearings were to start.

    Trump sued Carroll herself for defamation on rape vs sexual abuse similar grounds, and his case was rejected by the Judge.

    What gives with ABC and their glass jaw?

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5040801-abc-settles-trumps-defamation-suit-for-15m/
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,207
    Dopermean said:

    Well the solution seems fairly clear, he needs to die before 2027 for tax reasons.
    Where do I send the invoice?
    Isn't this a bit Milliways (and Islington)?

    Wasn't it Hotblack Desiato who was spending a year dead for tax reasons?
  • Irrelevant. For Starmer to go back and apologise for the Corbyn era would be a ludicrously stupid way to shine a spotlight on a weak area, and the Tories would love it. The same applies to Eaton's idea of Badenoch 'apologising' for Truss.
    Starmer has apologised for the Corbyn era.

    Because it was the right thing to do and helped him move the party on.

    https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/israel-is-not-an-apartheid-state-says-keir-starmer-as-he-apologises-for-the-corbyn-years-god9iyh7
  • AnthonyTAnthonyT Posts: 141
    DavidL said:

    The naughty list is made up of comic book villains not the truly monstrous. If it were otherwise Dominique Pelicot would have featured.
    And the 80 other men involved in these hideous crimes. They should be on anyone's naughty list. Plus all the other men who used that website during the many years it was allowed to exist.
  • MattW said:

    The ABC - Trump defamation settlement is strange. AIUI Stephanopoulus described Trump as an adjudicated rapist (in accordance with NY Court findings) on his programme, and Trump sued him for defamation because he seems OK with "sex abuser", but not with "rapist".

    Deposition hearings were coming up, with Trump due to be on oath on video being interviewed by ABC lawyers about what he understands about the difference, his alleged history of sex abuse, ogling half-naked teenage girls in the changing rooms at his beauty pageants, grabbing women by the pussy, and so on.

    ABC have folded, and agreed to pay legal costs and $15m to be used in Trump's Presidential Library.

    The last time this was up was when Trump sued Michael Cohen for $500m for defamation in connection with statements made. Cohen held his line, and Trump collapsed his own case the day before the hearings were to start.

    Trump sued Carroll herself for defamation on rape vs sexual abuse similar grounds, and his case was rejected by the Judge.

    What gives with ABC and their glass jaw?

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5040801-abc-settles-trumps-defamation-suit-for-15m/

    How unpleasant can an American President make life for an American TV company?
  • Simply irrelevant to what I wrote as well as being factually wrong. Apart from that well done.
    Entirely relevant and factually correct.

    Its relevant because you complain about the "shit" developers are putting up, while defending the planning system that grants permission to those same developers while denying it to others.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,959
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925

    ...

    Meh. Stupid and self-serving left winger column that basically equates to 'Badenoch should fight Reform for us'.

    Mandy Rice Davis obviously applies, but whilst criticism of Badenoch is justified, why would 'apologising for Liz Truss' be a genius move? Would it be an amazing move for Starmer to issue an apology for Jeremy Corbyn?
    It might be a smart move; similarly, disavowing the equally ridiculous Truss.
  • CHartCHart Posts: 106
    Omnium said:

    Russians swarm around the UK still. Putin - 'nothing to do with us' they say. Having thought about this a little I think that all Russian citizens are responsible for Putin. Thus all Russian citizens should be booted out of the UK and generally treated as though they were Putin. This includes dual citizens.
    My grandad always told me to never trust a russian.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925
    edited December 2024
    carnforth said:

    At least it's a step above "Paddington bear was an immigrant, you know!" which, as far as I know, has no inspiration in reality.
    Doesn't it ?
    ...On the bear's refugee status, Bond was inspired by the sight, during World War II, of Jewish refugee children from Europe arriving in Britain and of London children who were being evacuated to the countryside, the evacuees bearing luggage labels perhaps similar to that attached to the bear Paddington "Please look after this bear". Bond reflects, "They all had a label round their neck with their name and address on and a little case or package containing all their treasured possessions. So Paddington, in a sense, was a refugee, and I do think that there’s no sadder sight than refugees"...

    That sort of sounds like aspiration in reality.
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,555
    Foxy said:

    Or alternatively draw the pension himself. Pensions are a provision for old age, not an IHT dodge.

    It would have to be a large estate too if his allowance is all used up.
    The underlying principle should be that all alternatives should be taxed the same, unless there is a good policy reason.

    Pensions are income tax free on the way in and investment roll up.

    Draw down excess cash from pension is subject to income tax and then iht on death.

    So leaving excess cash in pension should be the same but in reverse. IHT on death and the income tax on draw down.

    It is the pre 75 death with income tax free subsequent draw downs which is the anomaly. Perhaps the policy intent is to try and ensure pensions are not drawn down too early?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,225
    On episode 4 (of 6) of Black Doves.

    It's going to get binged to the end.
  • The underlying principle should be that all alternatives should be taxed the same, unless there is a good policy reason.

    Pensions are income tax free on the way in and investment roll up.

    Draw down excess cash from pension is subject to income tax and then iht on death.

    So leaving excess cash in pension should be the same but in reverse. IHT on death and the income tax on draw down.

    It is the pre 75 death with income tax free subsequent draw downs which is the anomaly. Perhaps the policy intent is to try and ensure pensions are not drawn down too early?
    It won't apply to me as I am already drawing my teachers pension, but if I'd died the day before retirement, could I have left my whole pension to someone else?
    (I'm not counting the dependents 50%)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,959
    ...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925

    On episode 4 (of 6) of Black Doves.

    It's going to get binged to the end.

    It is entertaining.
    High class nonsense.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,313

    It won't apply to me as I am already drawing my teachers pension, but if I'd died the day before retirement, could I have left my whole pension to someone else?
    (I'm not counting the dependents 50%)
    Isn’t there a pension for surviving spouse or dependent children in cases like that?
  • RobD said:

    Isn’t there a pension for surviving spouse or dependent children in cases like that?
    Yes, the 50% I mentioned.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,207
    edited December 2024

    Yes, the 50% I mentioned.
    I suspect he's seen nothing on loopholes yet. At present it's a festival of tax avoidance.

    At present he can draw it down, pay 40% tax on it, give it the kids tax free if it is "income not required for normal living expenses" (or whatever the phrase is), and I think he does not have to live for 7 years.

    That loophole - the "gifts from surplus income" IHT exemption - won't last for long, I suggest.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925
    Metaphor of the day.

    Former Assad regime tank is now a grocery store used by locals in Damascus.
    https://x.com/clashreport/status/1868316508058722641
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,014
    'Are Electric Vehicles a Mistake?'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trepC6pbs0M
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,545
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    I'll take papering over the cracks whilst we see if Amorim can conjure a supply of Polyfilla.
  • CHart said:

    My grandad always told me to never trust a russian.
    Presumably he identified them by the snow on their boots.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 23,267
    edited December 2024
    Should we be betting now on Guardiola getting sacked? 🤣
  • Past 11 Manchester City games:

    L L D W L D L L L L L

    Bet you could have got some incredible odds on anything like that back in October.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925

    'Are Electric Vehicles a Mistake?'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trepC6pbs0M

    No.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,925
    Probably the most important thing to remember about post-war Syria is that basically anyone with any power right now is very, very tired.
    https://x.com/SashoTodorov1/status/1868082231664877586

    This occurred to me too.
    Anyone but the sociopaths/psychopaths in Syria must be absolutely sick of war by now.
  • The Telegraph oppose any of the building Labour wants to do. So they've made the right decisions, then.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493

    Who do you think would make a better Prime Minister?

    Keir Starmer (LAB): 28%
    Kemi Badenoch (CON): 23%

    via @Moreincommon_, 6-10 Dec

    https://x.com/OprosUK/status/1868274664457535764

    Dire for both of them.

    The Tories' best option would be to reappoint Sunak but give up on chasing 2019 Johnson voters/2024 Farage voters and instead let Sunak be Sunak. Failing that, do the same strategy with Hunt or Mordaunt. The implosion of Starmer means that a centrist strategy is much more viable than it was at the tail end of the last Tory government.
  • Entirely relevant and factually correct.

    Its relevant because you complain about the "shit" developers are putting up, while defending the planning system that grants permission to those same developers while denying it to others.
    Nope. The main reason continually cited by small developers for not being able to compete with the large developers is not planning but finance. There have been multiple small companies making this point. Indeedcas many of them point out, removing planning will make the situation worse for them not better.

    Of course you won't listen to them because it goes against your fanatical obsession with planning
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,858

    Why?
    Auto braking systems (not self driving) - just “step on the brakes if something is on the road” are common and may be mandated for new cars in the near future.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,135
    edited December 2024

    What's to stop them from returning to Denmark under a different identity and claiming another £27k ?

    Even easier if more countries offer similar schemes.
    Maybe they're doing something like taking DNA samples to identify them?
  • Auto braking systems (not self driving) - just “step on the brakes if something is on the road” are common and may be mandated for new cars in the near future.
    That reduces rather than increases the need for anti jaywalking rules.

    If cars can adaptively brake as required there's less risk of collisions, and the car behind the braking car should brake too, so win/win.

    Makes sharing the road space safer not more dangerous.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,297

    Past 11 Manchester City games:

    L L D W L D L L L L L

    Bet you could have got some incredible odds on anything like that back in October.

    It's great for the EPL. A new champion. It was starting to look like the Bundesliga
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,406

    Dire for both of them.

    The Tories' best option would be to reappoint Sunak but give up on chasing 2019 Johnson voters/2024 Farage voters and instead let Sunak be Sunak. Failing that, do the same strategy with Hunt or Mordaunt. The implosion of Starmer means that a centrist strategy is much more viable than it was at the tail end of the last Tory government.
    Bring back Blair!

    Ducks.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,116
    "Tesla Tops Fatal Accident Rates In New Study
    NHTSA data indicates that the Tesla Model Y is one of the most dangerous cars, but not for the reasons you think."

    "Automotive research and data analytics firm iSeeCars said the Tesla Model Y has a fatal accident rate of more than three times the average car over a billion miles driven. The Model S is twice more likely to result in a fatal crash than the average car."

    https://insideevs.com/news/741185/tesla-fatal-accident-rates-new-study-report/
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,493

    Bring back Blair!

    Ducks.
    To lead the Tories?
  • Nope. The main reason continually cited by small developers for not being able to compete with the large developers is not planning but finance. There have been multiple small companies making this point. Indeedcas many of them point out, removing planning will make the situation worse for them not better.

    Of course you won't listen to them because it goes against your fanatical obsession with planning
    No, a few firms cite that which you leap on as you love our planning system obstructing construction and are satisfied with the status quo.

    There are many firms that don't get into developments at all because they can't get permission to do so reliably.

    In country after country where planning is not the barrier it is here, small firms rather than an oligopoly get on with construction. And where firms can reliably do their work, finance follows.

    Finance is more of an issue here as the small firms can't reliably get a regular series of jobs where they need permission every time. Whereas large developers with land banks of permission can get finance easier as a result.

    You can't divorce the two.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,008

    Got to be sorry for the matelots, though, surely.
    OKC, I have no sympathy for any Russians, they are complicit and quite happy killing Ukranians. If you sup with the devil
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,564
    edited December 2024
    𝕏 stands out as the most politically balanced social media platform. Unlike many other platforms, 𝕏 has an almost equal split between Democrat (48%) and Republican (47%) news consumers. As you would expect, the data don't align with the "right-wing dominance" narrative projected by traditional media.

    Instagram, TikTok and Reddit mainly consumed by Democrats and Facebook and Youtube by Republicans

    https://x.com/stat_sherpa/status/1867627066826400096
  • @Richard_Tyndall our MNOs stand ready to invest in new sites but the planning system completely hampers them.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,297
    HYUFD said:

    𝕏 stands out as the most politically balanced social media platform. Unlike many other platforms, 𝕏 has an almost equal split between Democrat (48%) and Republican (47%) news consumers. As you would expect, the data don't align with the "right-wing dominance" narrative projected by traditional media.

    Instagram, TikTok and Reddit mainly consumed by Democrats and Facebook and Youtube by Republicans

    https://x.com/stat_sherpa/status/1867627066826400096

    And Bluesky is a tedious Woke tea-party. Pleasant chit chat. Yawn
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,612

    It won't apply to me as I am already drawing my teachers pension, but if I'd died the day before retirement, could I have left my whole pension to someone else?
    (I'm not counting the dependents 50%)
    You could leave to spouse. But in public sector generally your pension ends with you I think.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,564
    edited December 2024

    Dire for both of them.

    The Tories' best option would be to reappoint Sunak but give up on chasing 2019 Johnson voters/2024 Farage voters and instead let Sunak be Sunak. Failing that, do the same strategy with Hunt or Mordaunt. The implosion of Starmer means that a centrist strategy is much more viable than it was at the tail end of the last Tory government.
    Labour already under 30% and LDs still under 15% leaves little room for a centrist Tory leader to squeeze much more from either.

    Kemi's best hope is a hung parliament which looks possible, however if she fails to even win enough seats to do a deal with Reform to form a government the Tories best hope might ironically be JRM if he wins back a seat in Somerset as he would be the only Tory leader capable of collapsing the Reform vote again (bar Boris who CCHQ likely block from standing again). The Tories cannot progress further and have a hope of a majority with FPTP until they have done that, then if a Labour and LD minority government next time also unpopular the Conservatives post a Reform squeeze then end up the opposition by default to both
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,564

    I reckon the Rev Chamberlain should have kept his head well down. Probably made things worse now.
    Santa Claus of course originated in name from Christian Bishop St Nicholas, he was an idiot and correctly apologised
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited December 2024
    rkrkrk said:

    You could leave to spouse. But in public sector generally your pension ends with you I think.
    No; there is usually a spouse/dependent/partner pension. But on the same annuity model.

    There is, however, often a quite separate death in service (and in early years of retirement) lump sum. This is effectivelyt a life insurance component, but if one has been lazy and failed to fill in the little bit of paper assigning it to one's spouse etc. then it gets paid into one's estate and is liable for IHT.

    But all this depends on the details of the scheme, whether it is old, old new, newish new or very new ... so don't hold me to that for any particular case.
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