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It’s Kemi Badenough for the Tories as they sink to third – politicalbetting.com

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  • Scott_xP said:

    Front page of The Star tomorrow features a headline TSE would be proud of

    Sadly I can't post it here

    This one, presumably.


  • rcs1000 said:

    Of course you can buy single Apples in the US. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy more than one iPhone at a time.
    Nobody has told TSE that...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785

    You can preserve the bread by applying more butter than an NHS consultant is probably allowed to eat. That is what butter is for - you put fat in a sandwich to stop the ingredients making it soggy. And to make it a balanced meal
    The more I think about this, the more it becomes an important point. We only use spread such as butter on certain sandwich fillings. We wouldn't normally use butter on a hamburger roll, or when making a Prego, but rather apply the meat directly to the bread, but we do use spread with other fillings. I think there is a second role as well as the function of providing a barrier to liquid in that spread also has adhesive qualities that are essential to keeping the structure of a sandwich together.

    The key perhaps is not that the bread should be completely dry, after all part of the pleasure of a hot sandwich filling like a burger or a prego is the juices soaking into the bread, perhaps facilitated by burger relish, sauce or ketchup. The issue arises more with a cold filling, where spread is more essential to keep the bread dry, and raw tomatoes do not have a place. They are simply too wet for any spread to provide an adequate barrier.

    Panzanella is a salad, not a sandwich, so does not contradict the important principle of keeping bread from getting soggy, and cooking alters the properties so toasting bread makes brusschetta possible with fresh tomatoes, as toasted bread retains its structure rather than going soggy.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    The Dem problem in a total nutshell.



    Acyn
    @Acyn
    Trump: I tell the story about a woman who… went to a grocery store, had three apples and she put them down on the counter and she looked and saw the price and she said will you excuse me? And she walked one of the apples back to the refrigerator...

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1867316591521935778


    The comments are full of - 'why, that can't happen - apples aren't in the fridge', 'Trump made this up', 'No one would buy three apples and nothing else' etc etc.

    The Dems just don't get it. You gotta tell the voters a story. A narrative. Trump's story may often be actually made up but they are close enough to truth that Joe Public says 'yeh, huh, I saw that last week'.

    Meanwhile, everyone who’s not a Democrat activist is saying “Yeah, groceries have gone way up recently”, which is very much true in the US.

    This is how Trump won the election.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Andy_JS said:

    I think we may have reached the limits of libertarianism, with the case of Lily Phillips.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbV07tK0sn4

    We’ve gone from making stupid people famous on ‘reality’ TV, to now making the mentally ill famous and showering them in praise and money.

    This girl will need some serious counselling, one doesn’t need to wonder why suicide rates in her ‘industry’ are so high.

    Perhaps this is the moment when the pushback starts to happen?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785

    They absolutely do put fruit like apples in the fridge in places like Bodegas i.e. NY corner shops, because it gets so warm / humid in the summer and those places are like little heat boxes.

    https://freshfoodsnyc.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/the-bedford-express-fresh-bodega/

    Also, its quite common in supermarkets (normally higher ends ones) to have all the produce in open refrigerated shelving that also sprays mists of water.
    It's a habit that I have retained from living in America of keeping fruit in the fridge. Apples, pears, oranges etc simply keep better in fridges, and apples retain their crunch better.

    In the days before central heating fruit kept well in a bowl in the British climate as room temperature was generally significantly colder. An important point too when serving both beer and red wine, that the optimum serving temperature is cellar temperature not dining room temperature.

    We should be grateful for Donald and Kemi raising these important culinary points, though it isn't clear to me how applying tarifs to imported apples makes them cheaper for American consumers.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 739
    Wait.... Americans eat fruit??
  • Penddu2 said:

    Wait.... Americans eat fruit??

    Americans cannot afford to eat fruit. Do keep up.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200

    .

    She goes by Kemi, ergo it’s perfectly valid to say Kemi is her name. Unlike Kier, which is not Keir’s name, but your dumbo misspelling.

    OLUKEMI
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    Andy_JS said:

    I think Starmer has got the message that very high levels of migration have got to be brought under control. It'll be interesting if he actually do anything about it though,
    He will probably do what all PMs from Blair onwards have done. Moan about it, complain it’s too high, say he’ll take action and do nothing because he’s quite in favour of it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902

    The Dem problem in a total nutshell.



    Acyn
    @Acyn
    Trump: I tell the story about a woman who… went to a grocery store, had three apples and she put them down on the counter and she looked and saw the price and she said will you excuse me? And she walked one of the apples back to the refrigerator...

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1867316591521935778


    The comments are full of - 'why, that can't happen - apples aren't in the fridge', 'Trump made this up', 'No one would buy three apples and nothing else' etc etc.

    The Dems just don't get it. You gotta tell the voters a story. A narrative. Trump's story may often be actually made up but they are close enough to truth that Joe Public says 'yeh, huh, I saw that last week'.

    Not after he's been in government again for a couple of years they won't.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    rcs1000 said:

    Of course you can buy single Apples in the US. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy more than one iPhone at a time.
    Nit usually kept in the supermarket fridge, though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    Sandpit said:

    Meanwhile, everyone who’s not a Democrat activist is saying “Yeah, groceries have gone way up recently”, which is very much true in the US.

    This is how Trump won the election.
    Really? I hadn't noticed.

    Everyone who's not in the Trump tank has realised that inflation is now his problem.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,785
    edited December 2024
    Taz said:

    He will probably do what all PMs from Blair onwards have done. Moan about it, complain it’s too high, say he’ll take action and do nothing because he’s quite in favour of it.
    I don't think that's true.

    I think he will bring immigration sharply down from the all time peak that was 2023 under the Tories, probably to the recent norm of around a quarter million per year. Ironically this will increase the percentage of asylum seekers, as the rate of visa arrivals in the denominator goes down.

    I don't expect that this will soften the hearts of our Fash-friendly posters to him. Nothing short of mass deportations of long resident minorities would do that, and perhaps not even that
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    Dura_Ace said:

    It's like the Algonquin Round Table on here tonight.
    Everyone's drunk ?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    Selebian said:

    Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke Badenoch...
    ...Adoramus, Adoramus,
    Pax Per Idies Dominum...

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Nigelb said:

    Really? I hadn't noticed.

    Everyone who's not in the Trump tank has realised that inflation is now his problem.
    Inflation is now mostly under control across the West, the problem is the legacy price rises of the past few years.

    Trump announced yesterday a plan to increase energy production, which should help bring dows costs for businesses, and a sharp reduction in public spending will also reduce aggregate demand - but against that import tarrifs could raise the retail price of goods from overseas. Probably a wash overall so far, but four years is a long time and anything could happen in either direction.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    Foxy said:

    I don't think that's true.

    I think he will bring immigration sharply down from the all time peak that was 2023 under the Tories, probably to the recent norm of around a quarter million per year. Ironically this will increase the percentage of asylum seekers, as the rate of visa arrivals in the denominator goes down.

    I don't expect that this will soften the hearts of our Fash-friendly posters to him. Nothing short of mass deportations of long resident minorities would do that, and perhaps not even that
    It will fall anyway due to previous govt changes but if people are expecting tens of thousands a year that won’t happen. We will be around 250-300K a year.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    Nigelb said:

    Everyone's drunk ?
    That could be any evening here.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    Nigelb said:

    Really? I hadn't noticed.

    Everyone who's not in the Trump tank has realised that inflation is now his problem.
    Inflation in the US is already inching back up now.

    It will be his problem soon enough and plenty of risks there.

    His last set of tariffs was targeted so as not to be inflationary. Remains to be seen what happens with this set.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    This is interesting.

    An hybrid electric solution for VTOL would be safer than helicopters, and aircraft like the V-22, and potentially match the speed and range if the latter.
    Quite possibly cheaper than either, as well, in the long run.

    December 12, 2024 | Archer Announces Strategic Partnership With Anduril To Develop Hybrid VTOL Military Aircraft; Raises An Additional $430M
    https://news.archer.com/archer-announces-strategic-partnership-with-anduril-to-develop-hybrid-vtol-military-aircraft-raises-an-additional-430m
    The companies’ first product from this partnership is planned to be a hybrid-propulsion, vertical-take-off-and landing (“VTOL”) aircraft that will target a potential program of record from the United States Department of Defense (“DOD”)..
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,116

    .

    She goes by Kemi, ergo it’s perfectly valid to say Kemi is her name. Unlike Kier, which is not Keir’s name, but your dumbo misspelling.

    Spelling his name as Kier is utterly understandable, given it's the name of a firm that does stuff well. Compared to a man who isn't doing very well. ;)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited December 2024
    Nigelb said:

    This is interesting.

    An hybrid electric solution for VTOL would be safer than helicopters, and aircraft like the V-22, and potentially match the speed and range if the latter.
    Quite possibly cheaper than either, as well, in the long run.

    December 12, 2024 | Archer Announces Strategic Partnership With Anduril To Develop Hybrid VTOL Military Aircraft; Raises An Additional $430M
    https://news.archer.com/archer-announces-strategic-partnership-with-anduril-to-develop-hybrid-vtol-military-aircraft-raises-an-additional-430m
    The companies’ first product from this partnership is planned to be a hybrid-propulsion, vertical-take-off-and landing (“VTOL”) aircraft that will target a potential program of record from the United States Department of Defense (“DOD”)..

    Funnily enough I was looking the other day at a hybrid drone that does just that.

    https://www.jouav.com/products/cw-30e.html

    Takes of vertically using four electric propellers, then transitions to forward flight using an engine and prop at the back. Used for survey work, has a flight duration of eight hours at 90km/h carrying 8kg, and costs from about $15k. Wingspan is 4.5m.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    Another Prince Andrew scandal, if anyone still cares.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    Sandpit said:

    Funnily enough I was looking the other day at a hybrid drone that does just that.

    https://www.jouav.com/products/cw-30e.html

    Takes of vertically using four electric propellers, then transitions to forward flight using an engine and prop at the back. Used for survey work, has a flight duration of eight hours at 90km/h carrying 8kg, and costs from about $15k. Wingspan is 4.5m.
    This will be rather more sophisticated, but that's a nice demonstration of the potential.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    Nigelb said:

    Another Prince Andrew scandal, if anyone still cares.

    Has Chaz turfed him pout of his digs yet ?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Nigelb said:

    This will be rather more sophisticated, but that's a nice demonstration of the potential.
    No reason it shouldn’t be able to scale, the difficult bit will be getting sufficient lift from the electric motors to haul the thing plus payload and fuel into the air with redundancy for a failure. Note that the small drone one looks more like a glider than an Osprey or helicopter.

    Given the current wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, there’s definitely military applications for even the small drone model, although obviously NATO countries will be building them themselves rather than buying from China!*

    It would be almost invisible from 1,000m up, and you wouldn’t want to be wasting $1m surface-to-air missiles shooting down $50k surveillance drones that could be replaced within minutes by another.

    Oh, and I see the V-22 Osprey is grounded again, after the report into a crashed one showed metal fatigue.

    *Once the NATO militaries have paid to develop the Western drone version, there will be a huge civillian market from police forces, rescue services, utility companies etc. who will also pay extra for the not-Chinese version.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited December 2024
    Taz said:

    Has Chaz turfed him pout of his digs yet ?
    A Chinese businessman described as a "close confidant" of the Duke of York has lost an appeal against a decision to bar him from the UK on national security grounds.

    The man, known only as H6, brought the case after being banned from entering the country in March 2023 by the then-Home Secretary, Suella Braverman.

    Judges heard the businessman had formed a close working relationship with Prince Andrew, receiving an invite to his birthday party in 2020 and being told he could act on the duke's behalf when dealing with potential investors in China.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd75vwdg3yvo

    The Chinese must piss themselves at how stupid so many high ranking Westerners are.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Both UK and US have expelled Chinese spies this year, who were working in the offices of politicians.

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that people in sensitive positions shouldn’t be hiring citizens of unfriendly nations, even if there’s no explicit requirement for security clearances.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,233
    Sandpit said:



    Oh, and I see the V-22 Osprey is grounded again, after the report into a crashed one showed metal fatigue.

    V-22 has about the same mishap rate as any other military RW type - except CH-47 which is very safe unless you CFIT it into the Mull of Kintyre.

    I've been in one and you can see why the USN/USMC/USAF persist with it. It's speed, endurance and altitude capabilities make it a compelling choice for a lot of missions.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,200
    The Economy Shrunk by 0.1% in October, mainly due to hospitality, according to GMB news this morning

    The Reeves effect in action.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,545
    edited December 2024
    Taz said:

    The Economy Shrunk by 0.1% in October, mainly due to hospitality, according to GMB news this morning

    The Reeves effect in action.

    Tories running the economy by not eating enough sandwiches.

    On which note, I pass to TSE....
  • NEW THREAD

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Dura_Ace said:

    V-22 has about the same mishap rate as any other military RW type - except CH-47 which is very safe unless you CFIT it into the Mull of Kintyre.

    I've been in one and you can see why the USN/USMC/USAF persist with it. It's speed, endurance and altitude capabilities make it a compelling choice for a lot of missions.
    Genuine LOL at “safe unless you CFIT it into the Mull of Kintyre”. :lol:

    Yes the Osprey can do a load of stuff that nothing else can, which is why they persist with it.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,967

    Apologies, looks like it is today. Nine straight days of sunset at 15:51, the 12th is in the middle of the range:

    https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london
    Here in the IOW the sunset time was identical for both Dec 11 and 12, and tonight will edge later by just a few seconds.

    Remember that the changing sunset time is a combination of clock effect - the differing pace of the earth around the sun compared to steady clock time - and geometric effect - the changing angle of the sun’s track against the horizon, as the tilt of the earth turns a little more toward or away from the sun.

    The clock effect is the same everywhere, but the geometric effect varies by latitude. Because the change in sunset time is the difference between (or sum of, depending on which way it’s going) the two effects, the actual day when the sun sets earliest or latest can be different by a day either way, in different locations - because the net daily change at the solstices is only a few seconds - or, in the islands case yesterday, remarkably evened out at zero seconds such that two days running had exactly the same sunset time.
  • kinabalu said:

    A thing about Reform - because of this point you make here - is they could win a ton of seats with many of the individuals sent to parliament being wholly unfit to be MPs.
    Indeed. You only need to look at how large a proportion of the five they sent this time are unfit for the job. Granted, that's a small sample but there were enough candidates who got into trouble to suggest there was probably plenty more lurking beneath the surface that might have come out with a bit more digging.
  • Indeed. You only need to look at how large a proportion of the five they sent this time are unfit for the job. Granted, that's a small sample but there were enough candidates who got into trouble to suggest there was probably plenty more lurking beneath the surface that might have come out with a bit more digging.
    Especially given that the seats that Reform won look like their best chances and presumably have their top-tier candidates.
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