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SystemSystem Posts: 12,165
edited November 24 in General
The Chancer of the Exchequer – politicalbetting.com

Rachel Reeves came under increasing pressure to explain her CV on Sunday after it emerged that she used a false claim to win her seat as an MP ?? https://t.co/BwpyK7cs4D

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  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,723
    First
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,723
    Politicians lie. They all do it. Surprised at Reeves bigging herself up.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    Reeves should make light of it by arriving at her next appearance in a Citroen 2CV.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,286
    It appears Rachel may not actually know what she's doing...
  • SonofContrarianSonofContrarian Posts: 60
    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,846
    I'm more worried about her Mansion House speech and attitude towards the City. Are we going soft on levels of bank capital? Trump might well relax the rules on American banks, to which I would say good luck to them. We should not be tempted to follow.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,906
    No-one cares. It might provide a convenient excuse for Starmer to give Reeves the push but realistically, he would not need one.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,316
    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    It’s not even sodding December!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    Small world....you pop out for an evening of watching the cage fighting with your mates Elon and Kid Rock...

    Very happy to see President Trump 🇺🇸 together with Saudi Arabia’s sovereign fund PIF Governor H.E. Yasir Al-Rumayyan at #ufc309 last evening.

    https://x.com/HSajwanization/status/1858089941458207058?t=B3v0VBt4TQP6H9erXas-KQ&s=19
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    What does her CV matter when top central banker Mark Carney has declared that she's a "serious economist". He would know … wouldn't he?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,735
    "Tulsi Gabbard is like the RFK Jr of Foreign Policy"

    Rick Wilson (Bulwark podcast)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUwEqL00BI
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    This is the sort of behaviour that leads to people thinking Die Hard is a Christmas film.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,445
    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Dewali? Hanukkah?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
  • SonofContrarianSonofContrarian Posts: 60
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/18/labour-is-facing-a-civil-war-over-net-zero/

    Surely anyone from down a pit could confidently take on a sandal wearer? 😏
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,672
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    This is the sort of behaviour that leads to people thinking Die Hard is a Christmas film.
    TSE arguing about Die Hard is a true Christmas tradition that warms the cockles of every PBrs heart. Gawd bless you TSE.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    OldKingCole said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Dewali? Hanukkah?
    Needs to be end of November so weirdos hold off the Christmas decorations until December. Maybe we can import thanksgiving and people can cover their houses and shops with Turkey decorations, corn cobs and pilgrim hats.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    edited November 18
    I heard a Tory MP or ex MP claiming he worked with her in the early part of her career waxing lyrical about her skills. Whether just an attempt at reflected glory or not I don't know but as this slur originates from Guido I'm surprised it's even being given an airing
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    Not the first politician to embellish their CV e.g. IDS got in a spot of bother if I remember correctly.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    Thanksgiving has its roots in English traditions so we should reclaim it.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,672
    Roger said:

    I heard a Tory MP or ex MP claiming he worked with her in the early part of her career and waxed lyrical about her skills. Whether just an attempt at reflected glory or not I don't know but as this slur originates from Guido I'm surprised it's even being given an airing

    Given how far they screwed up in office, ad hom attacks on Starmer, Rayner and Reeves is pretty much all they’ve got left.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    OldKingCole said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Dewali? Hanukkah?
    St Andrew's Day.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,046
    edited November 18
    Jonathan said:

    Roger said:

    I heard a Tory MP or ex MP claiming he worked with her in the early part of her career and waxed lyrical about her skills. Whether just an attempt at reflected glory or not I don't know but as this slur originates from Guido I'm surprised it's even being given an airing

    Given how far they screwed up in office, ad hom attacks on Starmer, Rayner and Reeves is pretty much all they’ve got left.
    Judging by the unprecedented collapse in Starmer's approval rating since the election, might it just be working?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    Surely Reeves should be grateful it turns out that she was not an economist at RBS and HBOS before the 2008 crash?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Not the first politician to embellish their CV e.g. IDS got in a spot of bother if I remember correctly.

    Gordon Brown managed to convince people he was a brilliant economist based on nothing at all. He didn't even need to embellish his CV.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,567
    Michael Crick is a serious journalistic voice in politics. If he thinks Reeves should resign, it's quite a big thing.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    williamglenn said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Not the first politician to embellish their CV e.g. IDS got in a spot of bother if I remember correctly.

    Gordon Brown managed to convince people he was a brilliant economist based on nothing at all. He didn't even need to embellish his CV.
    His supporters used to make a huge deal of the fact he had a PhD...on the history of the Labour Party....
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    edited November 18
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
    I read a book about the affair many years ago as a random find in a bookshop. What I remember most of all, apart of course from its demonstration of the benevolence of the British empire alongside railways etc., was the indignation in Cheltenham etc. that people should dare to complain.

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,099
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.

    I thought the chess stuff was debunked? She claimed to make the last 16 and she did make the last 16. Others, not her, then started saying she'd won...?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    YouGov being kind to Reeves. The question should be "have you ever lied on your CV?"
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    Andy_JS said:

    Michael Crick is a serious journalistic voice in politics. If he thinks Reeves should resign, it's quite a big thing.

    I don't know...he has a bit of a history of getting over excited. Remember he got the wrong end of the stick over data usage in Crewe and Nantwich by-election going offshore and also the young Tories campaigning. The second he ran what seemed like 1000s of pieces on Ch4 such he thought it was scandal of the century and one he thought that was clearly going to invalidate the GE result in many seats.

    This is thin gruel, she over egged the length of time and responsibilities working these organisations. That is not something I have ever done, but I have interviewed plenty of people who have. And loads of MPs have been caught doing this.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
    I read a book about the affair many years ago as a random find in a bookshop. What I remember most of all, apart of course from its demonstration of the benevolence of the British empire alongside railways etc., was the indignation in Cheltenham etc. that people should dare to complain.

    But there was outrage in the Commons led by Churchill.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Black Friday (I really hate it).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    Or 23rd June could be Plassey Day, the celebration of the glorious defeat of the French by the East India Company under Clive of India
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,906
    Margaret Thatcher’s desk could be yours for £2,000
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/18/carol-mark-thatcher-sell-auction-margaret-dormer-desk/ (£££)

    Auction of Thatcher tat for any nouveau riche PBers who need to buy their own furniture.
    https://www.sloanestreetauctions.com/auctions/
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.

    Walter Mitty Milly Chancellor.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,857
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    "They've had their warning. No meetings! FIRE!"
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,535
    Jonathan said:

    Roger said:

    I heard a Tory MP or ex MP claiming he worked with her in the early part of her career and waxed lyrical about her skills. Whether just an attempt at reflected glory or not I don't know but as this slur originates from Guido I'm surprised it's even being given an airing

    Given how far they screwed up in office, ad hom attacks on Starmer, Rayner and Reeves is pretty much all they’ve got left.
    Ironic that you wrote that in reply to an ad hom attack by Roger.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,445
    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    They left here a lot earlier in the year. We should celebrate that ancestors of, for example, the Bush family left these shores.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    SonofContrarian said:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/18/labour-is-facing-a-civil-war-over-net-zero/

    Surely anyone from down a pit could confidently take on a sandal wearer? 😏

    Ed Miliband has more in common with Greta Thunberg and Chris Packham and metropolitan Green voters than the working class trade unionists and miners who founded the Labour party 150 years ago
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    bondegezou said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.

    I thought the chess stuff was debunked? She claimed to make the last 16 and she did make the last 16. Others, not her, then started saying she'd won...?
    She never asked for the stories to be corrected and they were still running them even on budget day from the BBC.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,857
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    This is the sort of behaviour that leads to people thinking Die Hard is a Christmas film.
    That comment just shows you've never watched it!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,668
    bondegezou said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.

    I thought the chess stuff was debunked? She claimed to make the last 16 and she did make the last 16. Others, not her, then started saying she'd won...?
    Any excuse for her book being plagiarised from Wikipedia?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,099
    Carnyx said:

    OldKingCole said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Dewali? Hanukkah?
    St Andrew's Day.
    It's World Television Day on 21 Nov, as proclaimed by the UN.

    Or the International Day of Banks on 4 Dec for those who celebrate.

    Plenty here will be partying on International Migrants Day on 18 Dec. There's quite a few expats among us, and plenty more who take a special interest in migration.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    edited November 18
    HYUFD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    Or 23rd June could be Plassey Day, the celebration of the glorious defeat of the French by the East India Company under Clive of India
    I've just read a history of the battle. Aren't you sort of forgetting the local chaps? With Siraj-ud-Daulah in charge? And failing to make it clear that the French were also a bunch of capitalists and their lackeys?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,586
    HYUFD said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/18/labour-is-facing-a-civil-war-over-net-zero/

    Surely anyone from down a pit could confidently take on a sandal wearer? 😏

    Ed Miliband has more in common with Greta Thunberg and Chris Packham and metropolitan Green voters than the working class trade unionists and miners who founded the Labour party 150 years ago
    Or even the miners that were at the heart of the party only 40 years ago.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    FrankBooth said:

    I'm more worried about her Mansion House speech and attitude towards the City. Are we going soft on levels of bank capital? Trump might well relax the rules on American banks, to which I would say good luck to them. We should not be tempted to follow.

    Yes it seems Reeves, Starmer and Miliband are happy to trash family farms and close the last coal mines in the UK and freeze pensioners in winter and hammer small businesses but train drivers, bankers and GPs are to be well rewarded
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,099
    williamglenn said:

    bondegezou said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    She seems to have a bit of form, from the chess stuff to her book.

    I thought the chess stuff was debunked? She claimed to make the last 16 and she did make the last 16. Others, not her, then started saying she'd won...?
    Any excuse for her book being plagiarised from Wikipedia?
    I was talking about the chess stuff, william. That's why I begun with a reference to the chess stuff.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,854
    HYUFD said:

    FrankBooth said:

    I'm more worried about her Mansion House speech and attitude towards the City. Are we going soft on levels of bank capital? Trump might well relax the rules on American banks, to which I would say good luck to them. We should not be tempted to follow.

    Yes it seems Reeves, Starmer and Miliband are happy to trash family farms and close the last coal mines in the UK and freeze pensioners in winter and hammer small businesses but train drivers, bankers and GPs are to be well rewarded
    Tory fails to demand means testing for the poor ... astounding.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,857
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
    I read a book about the affair many years ago as a random find in a bookshop. What I remember most of all, apart of course from its demonstration of the benevolence of the British empire alongside railways etc., was the indignation in Cheltenham etc. that people should dare to complain.

    But there was outrage in the Commons led by Churchill.
    However we may dwell upon the difficulties of General Dyer…one tremendous fact stands out. I mean the slaughter of nearly 400 persons and the wounding of probably three or four times as many…. That is an episode which appears to me to be without precedent or parallel in the modern history of the British Empire. It is an event of an entirely different order from any of those tragical occurrences which take place when troops are brought into collision with the civil population. It is an extraordinary event, a monstrous event, an event which stands in singular and sinister isolation.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,099
    I don't think anyone's going to top George Santos in the CV exaggeration stakes any time soon...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    It is highly unlikely that she was in customer support either at the BoE or HBOS.

    More pertinent is that if she was (a?) sensor economist at HBOS was she asleep when the banking crisis hit.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    edited November 18
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    FrankBooth said:

    I'm more worried about her Mansion House speech and attitude towards the City. Are we going soft on levels of bank capital? Trump might well relax the rules on American banks, to which I would say good luck to them. We should not be tempted to follow.

    Yes it seems Reeves, Starmer and Miliband are happy to trash family farms and close the last coal mines in the UK and freeze pensioners in winter and hammer small businesses but train drivers, bankers and GPs are to be well rewarded
    Tory fails to demand means testing for the poor ... astounding.
    Conservative cares about preserving our farms and pensioners and small businesses non shock and even now conserving our mines more than Labour has given the last Tory government wanted to open a new mine and Miliband scrapped it
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,286
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.

    Well if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, that could directly impact her budget decisions?
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,252
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
    I read a book about the affair many years ago as a random find in a bookshop. What I remember most of all, apart of course from its demonstration of the benevolence of the British empire alongside railways etc., was the indignation in Cheltenham etc. that people should dare to complain.

    But there was outrage in the Commons led by Churchill.
    However we may dwell upon the difficulties of General Dyer…one tremendous fact stands out. I mean the slaughter of nearly 400 persons and the wounding of probably three or four times as many…. That is an episode which appears to me to be without precedent or parallel in the modern history of the British Empire. It is an event of an entirely different order from any of those tragical occurrences which take place when troops are brought into collision with the civil population. It is an extraordinary event, a monstrous event, an event which stands in singular and sinister isolation.
    General Dyer was, of course, a Pakistani.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,579
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    This is the sort of behaviour that leads to people thinking Die Hard is a Christmas film.
    That comment just shows you've never watched it!
    That's the only possible explanation.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    GIN1138 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.

    Well if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, that could directly impact her budget decisions?
    Most chancellors in past 20 years have had bugger all relevant experience....oh i see your point now.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,183
    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,579
    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    Alphabet_Soup said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Look, if it the UK is going to start celebrating the massacre of Indians surely the 13th of April is more apt.
    With General Dyer on top of the tree? Oh I do hope not.
    Well he should have been hanging somewhere else.
    I read a book about the affair many years ago as a random find in a bookshop. What I remember most of all, apart of course from its demonstration of the benevolence of the British empire alongside railways etc., was the indignation in Cheltenham etc. that people should dare to complain.

    But there was outrage in the Commons led by Churchill.
    However we may dwell upon the difficulties of General Dyer…one tremendous fact stands out. I mean the slaughter of nearly 400 persons and the wounding of probably three or four times as many…. That is an episode which appears to me to be without precedent or parallel in the modern history of the British Empire. It is an event of an entirely different order from any of those tragical occurrences which take place when troops are brought into collision with the civil population. It is an extraordinary event, a monstrous event, an event which stands in singular and sinister isolation.
    General Dyer was, of course, a Pakistani.
    Slightly ahistorical, and as the Duke of Wellington reputably said in response to being described as Irish. "Just because a man is born in a stable doesn't make him a horse".

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,286
    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Fighting talk, Jr. 👍
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    I am disappointed that none of you have applauded the brilliance of the headline
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    edited November 18
    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Yes, we should just leave the lying and exaggerations of the truth to the next most powerful man in the world, President elect Trump.

    Certainly no problem for him being in charge of the nuclear button and maybe occasionally exaggerating the truth from time to time. Might be a problem for the UK bean counter though
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,183
    MarqueeMark said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    edited November 18
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
    Isn't that the rule / law they want to introduce in Wales?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    GIN1138 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.

    Well if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, that could directly impact her budget decisions?
    Most chancellors in past 20 years have had bugger all relevant experience....oh i see your point now.
    Best Chancellor in the last 30 years was a lawyer which I feel is no coincidence.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,535
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I am disappointed that none of you have applauded the brilliance of the headline

    We don't like to encourage you ;)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,479
    Andy_JS said:

    David Brent in The Office: "Assistant to the manager, not assistant manager". 😊

    I've been making this joke for almost 24 hours.

    Then you come along and scoop up all the likes!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,479
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
    Right, because that's exactly what you'd be saying were this a Tory.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,963
    edited November 18
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    GIN1138 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.

    Well if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, that could directly impact her budget decisions?
    Most chancellors in past 20 years have had bugger all relevant experience....oh i see your point now.
    "Prime Minister, I'm afraid Sir Frank is at an even greater disadvantage in understanding the economy. He's an economist".
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 181
    tlg86 said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Black Friday (I really hate it).
    Renamed as Black Fraud Day
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,342
    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Who are the benchmarks here, Robert - Mssrs Trump and Johnson?

    Dishonesty isn't great in anybody but if we are comparing her to contempraries, she's not even in the same ballpark.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    Price increases in Russia this year 📈

    • Potatoes: +73%
    • Butter: +30%
    • Inflation: +64%
    • Mortgage rates: 28%
    • Interest rates: 21%
    https://x.com/FrankLuntz/status/1858544729979601069
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,059
    edited November 18
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    GIN1138 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reeves embellishing her cv is here nor there, the impact of her budget decisions are the big concern.

    Well if she doesn't know what the hell she's doing, that could directly impact her budget decisions?
    Most chancellors in past 20 years have had bugger all relevant experience....oh i see your point now.
    Best Chancellor in the last 30 years was a lawyer which I feel is no coincidence.
    Lawson was a journalist and even better. The only genuine banker Chancellors of recent times were Rishi, Javid and Lamont
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,885
    Evening all :)

    Back from a few days living off-grid in rural Derbyshire.

    Credibility is a word which is thrown around but, like hypocrisy, it's a word which carries greater weight in politics. IF you have or are perceived to have (just as important) credibility, that gets you a long way. Chancellors come in two flavours - technocratic or political. Technocratic chancellors like Lawson can get away with a lot as their actions aren't seen through the prism of political ambition but only as long as they retain their credibility in financial circles.

    Political chancellors son't have to worry too much about financial credibility since everything they do is seen through the prism of political ambition - are they setting up policies more to ensure their advancement to No.10 than because they are fiscally the right thing to do?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,198
    Am I the only one who used to downplay on my CV so as not to intimidate?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,535
    tlg86 said:

    williamglenn said:

    boulay said:

    SonofContrarian said:

    There was a 🎄 tree visible in the Sky newsroom..surely not? 🤔🥴

    I’ve noticed a tragically large number in houses as I pass. One house with three trees on show with those triangular candalabras in each visible window.

    We urgently need to invent a new festival between Halloween and Christmas to hold off the nutters a bit longer.
    Thanksgiving!
    Black Friday (I really hate it).
    I have a rigid principle of not buying anything on Black Friday because I hate the whole thing so much.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    kinabalu said:

    Am I the only one who used to downplay on my CV so as not to intimidate?

    Is that because you were worried Sports Direct wouldn't give you a job?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,409
    SonofContrarian said:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/18/labour-is-facing-a-civil-war-over-net-zero/

    Surely anyone from down a pit could confidently take on a sandal wearer? 😏

    Rather unlikely.
    Since almost every who went underground is over 60.
    And many have emphysema and pneumonicosis.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    kinabalu said:

    Am I the only one who used to downplay on my CV so as not to intimidate?

    Nope, I felt my innate modesty held me back.

    That said, I've only really had three jobs, the last two jobs didn't involve a CV, I was hired by people I had previously worked with.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,579
    Casino_Royale said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
    Right, because that's exactly what you'd be saying were this a Tory.
    Surely, he never claimed Boris was a liar when demanding his removal?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    Casino_Royale said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
    Right, because that's exactly what you'd be saying were this a Tory.
    No, as I have stated many times, I never call for people to resign or to be sacked. My only exception is Leicester City managers.

    In my many post you won't see me calling for Tory resignations either.

    I am very tolerant of old tweets and social media too.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    Scoop from @joncraig- A politician and a close protection guard are among those the Gambling Commission is looking to prosecute over bets placed on the date of the election

    A source has said at least three - and as many as five - people may be charged

    https://x.com/SophyRidgeSky/status/1858578009038455296
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,043
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scoop from @joncraig- A politician and a close protection guard are among those the Gambling Commission is looking to prosecute over bets placed on the date of the election

    A source has said at least three - and as many as five - people may be charged

    https://x.com/SophyRidgeSky/status/1858578009038455296

    The police dropped the matter? What authority does the gambling commission have to "prosecute"?
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 181
    Political leaflets encourage brevity.

    I worked with computers being a good one.

    Honestly I did, but it could mean a great deal less.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,647
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Scoop from @joncraig- A politician and a close protection guard are among those the Gambling Commission is looking to prosecute over bets placed on the date of the election

    A source has said at least three - and as many as five - people may be charged

    https://x.com/SophyRidgeSky/status/1858578009038455296

    The police dropped the matter? What authority does the gambling commission have to "prosecute"?
    Under Section 42 of the Gambling Act of 2005.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,810
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I am disappointed that none of you have applauded the brilliance of the headline

    I thought it was one of your better ones, actually.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,695
    MarqueeMark said:

    HYUFD said:

    Price increases in Russia this year 📈

    • Potatoes: +73%
    • Butter: +30%
    • Inflation: +64%
    • Mortgage rates: 28%
    • Interest rates: 21%
    https://x.com/FrankLuntz/status/1858544729979601069

    The experience of the US election says Putin stands no chance of being re-elected with inflation like that...
    I suspect that he will buck the trend of incumbent leaders getting a pasting at the next election.
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