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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,379

    JohnO said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    Gombeen man = shady businessman wanting to be bribed by Heath, who has a whacking headache after drinking the koolaid poitin of talks with the Nationalists (and by implication the IRA), at Sunningdale, Berks. (Civil Service College),. which makes it 1973, I think. Or is that too early for Mrs T?

    While Mrs T, Rev Paisley and someone I don't recognise - Mr Hume of the SDLP, or Mr Cosgrove the Taoiseach? - look on in consternation.

    Edit: cxould be Barbara Castle.
    Jim Prior not Ted Heath, I think. Prior was Mrs T's Northern Ireland Secretary.

    ETA scooped by viewcode!
    Think the other mystery man is Garret Fitzgerald who was the Irish PM at that time.
    Dating it to the Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985.
    Ah, that would make sense.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,443
    rcs1000 said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.

    How to mes change! My grandfather was sent down from Christchurch for taking £2,000 off the Dean at the bridge table

    Admittedly this was in the 20s..
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,053

    rcs1000 said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.

    How to mes change! My grandfather was sent down from Christchurch for taking £2,000 off the Dean at the bridge table

    Admittedly this was in the 20s..
    We’re still in the 20s.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,316
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I have a 'second'. You're the first person ever to ask.

    My place observed a tripartite distinction between promising, average and NBG. None of this 2:1 and 2:2 malarky.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,465
    edited November 18
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    Gombeen man = shady businessman wanting to be bribed by Heath, who has a whacking headache after drinking the koolaid poitin of talks with the Nationalists (and by implication the IRA), at Sunningdale, Berks. (Civil Service College),. which makes it 1973, I think. Or is that too early for Mrs T?

    While Mrs T, Rev Paisley and someone I don't recognise - Mr Hume of the SDLP, or Mr Cosgrove the Taoiseach? - look on in consternation.

    Edit: cxould be Barbara Castle.
    Who is the cartoonist? It looks a bit like Cummings, but it's a bit too intelligent for him.
    I think it *is* Cummings.

    The portrayal of the Nationalist side isn't very sympathetic, though that is down to the newspaper. It was certainly usual. I remember seeing a cartoon at the time of bombings in England and it showed IRA pilots of Heinkel-like bombers raining down their payload on London etc while Wilson or more probably Callaghan looked up futilely. Edit: the visual approach to the Republicans was similar.
    Cummings was a dreadful cartoonist. He owed his prominence and longevity to a chance remark from Churchill to Beaverbrook praising one of his cartoons. It cemented his position with his employer.

    The reason I wasn't sure it was Cummings is that he would often write on them the name of the person or thing he was depicting as the drawings were so bad it was generally difficult to recognise them otherwise. This isn't the case here, and the idea is much more convoluted than he normally attempted. The point is however obscure, and unfunny, which was fairly typical.

    He really does not rate very highly amongst cartoonists despite having occupied a prominent position at The Express for decades.

    Edit: Ah, I see he wrote 'Sunningdale Hooch' on the side of the jar, which is a giveaway. The cartoon is competely incomprehensible without this (and merely poor with it.)
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,291

    JohnO said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    Gombeen man = shady businessman wanting to be bribed by Heath, who has a whacking headache after drinking the koolaid poitin of talks with the Nationalists (and by implication the IRA), at Sunningdale, Berks. (Civil Service College),. which makes it 1973, I think. Or is that too early for Mrs T?

    While Mrs T, Rev Paisley and someone I don't recognise - Mr Hume of the SDLP, or Mr Cosgrove the Taoiseach? - look on in consternation.

    Edit: cxould be Barbara Castle.
    Jim Prior not Ted Heath, I think. Prior was Mrs T's Northern Ireland Secretary.

    ETA scooped by viewcode!
    Think the other mystery man is Garret Fitzgerald who was the Irish PM at that time.
    Dating it to the Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985.
    Although Prior had resigned in 1984.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,032
    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Roger said:

    The suggestion by Michael Crick that she should resign is laughable. Focus pullers in the film business have been 'borrowing' ads forever so they could get a break working as a cameraman. Some I know have become super successful. It would be a bit harsh asking Ridley Scotts DOP to resign after lighting 'Gladiator' because he exaggerated his part in a Renault commercial

    Shocking news that the entertainment industry is full of liars and bullshitters....
    CV embellishment nowadays though is an inevitable consequence of shitty HR practices.

    The sort of practices that demand 4 years of experience for an entry level job, or 10 years of a skill that didn't exist 5 years ago.

    Plus the fact that it's all run through AI now before it ever reaches a human being, means you have to keyword stuff a CV like an old-timey SEO optimised web-page. I'm good with Spreadsheets, Microsoft Excel, Tables, Functions, Charts, Cell Editing, VBA scripting for Excel, Pivot Tables etc.

    And if your job description doesn't PERFECTLY match the one you're applying for, you have to bend your previous job title (and keyword stuff accordingly) or you'll be rejected out of hand by the ATS before a human ever looks at your CV.

    Instead of sending off a CV and cover letter to a real person who reads it, you now have a convoluted process that requires you to game the system just to get in front of a real person.
    I've got through my career without lying on my CV.

    But it's also the case that almost all the jobs I've got have been through personal reference/word of mouth, where they look at the CV after, not before.
    Indeed. It is now utterly impossible to get through the ATS (automated tracking system) without gaming the system. There are now legions of consultants and CV re-writers who are paid top dollar to do this on your behalf. Essentially it's a form of SEO, and is also most necessary at the start of your career (when you're applying without a reputation in the industry or a senior job title).

    I don't envy anyone starting out their careers now. Between the ridiculously convoluted ATS + HR screening rounds + competency tests (and random 'gamified' personality tests') plus 'video interviews' where the questions are pre-written and you have to record yourself giving the answer, it sucks to be a grad these days. Then when you finally get a job, there's no-one to mentor you because senior management is always WFH.
    I think this is only true at junior and mid level. When I hired seniors and leads we only ever had a handful of applicants because the requirements were to have had 7+ years experience for seniors and 10+ for lead/principal, the talent team would screen CVs manually.

    I think companies have to use ATS though because the last time I advertised for "Junior Investment Analyst" or "Associate Data Analyst" we got about 800 applications for the first and almost 2000 for the second. I picked a sample at random and 9/10 applicants shouldn't have bothered, had no relevant experience or skills and had no supporting reports/material to show they could do the role without that. I'm sure if I looked at more it would have been more like 99/100.

    People just don't have the self control not to apply for jobs they aren't suitable for and it means automation is very important. You can just use ChatGPT to make an ATS compliant CV and keep the original one for referrals.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    "AI granny Daisy gives phone scammers a taste of their own medicine! | 5 News"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXU1GbJW68
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987
    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    I've been writing an LLM job applicant scanner recently. For a small favour I can bias it in your direction. Though you might need to gloss over working for Gove. Even LLM system prompts have limits.
  • Olaf Scholz is still refusing to send Germany’s long-range Taurus missiles to Ukraine, despite the US allowing Kyiv limited use of its Atacms missiles for strikes in Russia.

    The German chancellor told a press conference at the G20 summit in Brazil on Monday that it was only possible for Ukraine to use Taurus missiles if “we take joint responsibility for target control”.

    “That is something that I cannot be responsible for, and don’t want to be responsible for,” Mr Scholz explained.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987
    Andy_JS said:

    "AI granny Daisy gives phone scammers a taste of their own medicine! | 5 News"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXU1GbJW68

    Reminds me of this from about 25 years ago :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgEGCoxb8hE

    Using Asterisk on Linux... 2.2? Probably required somewhat lower spec hardware anyway.
  • The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit a little earlier today seeking basic details on how the federal government would carry out a program to deport millions of people from the US, which President-elect Donald Trump has pledged to begin on “day one” of his new administration.

    As part of the federal action, the ACLU demanded to be given information about the government’s current relationships with, for example, private airlines, ground transportation facilities and other elements that would be involved in arranging deportation flights for undocumented people. The lawsuit was first reported by the Washington Post this afternoon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/18/donald-trump-brendan-carr-white-house-latest-live-us-politics-news
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,112

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    When this story first broke, I didn't think it was particularly big. Big banks have a surprising number of economists, and they don't all work in the economics department. (There's a lot of microeconomics in most firms operations: we do a huge amount of work on price elasticity of demand, for example.)

    However, as time as gone on, I've gotten more and more sceptical of her answers. If she was working as an economist, even in the customer complaints department, then fine. But if she was working in a different role - like supervising staff, then it's another matter altogether. One is her telling the truth ("I was an economist at Halifax"), even if she may have allowed people to come to the wrong conclusions. The other is a lie.

    If she lied, then she should not be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Like with Presidents and Prime Ministers, our public servants need to consistently demonstrate the highest standards of honesty. And if she has show to have not, then SKS needs to let her go.

    Political leaders having to resign for lying?

    There won't be many left, and the few who do survive the cull will be insufferable prigs.
    Right, because that's exactly what you'd be saying were this a Tory.
    No, as I have stated many times, I never call for people to resign or to be sacked. My only exception is Leicester City managers.

    In my many post you won't see me calling for Tory resignations either.

    I am very tolerant of old tweets and social media too.
    Absolute bollocks
    Remind me of when I have called for a resignation or sacking. Not even Truss or Johnson, or Welby.

    It really is a slightly peculiar principle of mine. I think failing politicians should be sacked by the electorate.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213
    edited November 18

    Olaf Scholz is still refusing to send Germany’s long-range Taurus missiles to Ukraine, despite the US allowing Kyiv limited use of its Atacms missiles for strikes in Russia.

    The German chancellor told a press conference at the G20 summit in Brazil on Monday that it was only possible for Ukraine to use Taurus missiles if “we take joint responsibility for target control”.

    “That is something that I cannot be responsible for, and don’t want to be responsible for,” Mr Scholz explained.

    If I were a defence procurement chief in on of Russia’s neighbours after this war I think I’d be putting a premium on getting hold of weaponry that the maker’s country can’t block on a whim.
  • TimS said:

    Olaf Scholz is still refusing to send Germany’s long-range Taurus missiles to Ukraine, despite the US allowing Kyiv limited use of its Atacms missiles for strikes in Russia.

    The German chancellor told a press conference at the G20 summit in Brazil on Monday that it was only possible for Ukraine to use Taurus missiles if “we take joint responsibility for target control”.

    “That is something that I cannot be responsible for, and don’t want to be responsible for,” Mr Scholz explained.

    If I were a defence procurement chief in on of Russia’s neighbours after this war I think I’d be putting a premium on getting hold of weaponry that the maker’s country can’t block on a whim.
    Interesting (and pleasing) that the Green Party leader has said that if he wins on Sunday he will allow the weapons to be sent to Ukraine.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987
    MaxPB said:

    kyf_100 said:

    kyf_100 said:

    Roger said:

    The suggestion by Michael Crick that she should resign is laughable. Focus pullers in the film business have been 'borrowing' ads forever so they could get a break working as a cameraman. Some I know have become super successful. It would be a bit harsh asking Ridley Scotts DOP to resign after lighting 'Gladiator' because he exaggerated his part in a Renault commercial

    Shocking news that the entertainment industry is full of liars and bullshitters....
    CV embellishment nowadays though is an inevitable consequence of shitty HR practices.

    The sort of practices that demand 4 years of experience for an entry level job, or 10 years of a skill that didn't exist 5 years ago.

    Plus the fact that it's all run through AI now before it ever reaches a human being, means you have to keyword stuff a CV like an old-timey SEO optimised web-page. I'm good with Spreadsheets, Microsoft Excel, Tables, Functions, Charts, Cell Editing, VBA scripting for Excel, Pivot Tables etc.

    And if your job description doesn't PERFECTLY match the one you're applying for, you have to bend your previous job title (and keyword stuff accordingly) or you'll be rejected out of hand by the ATS before a human ever looks at your CV.

    Instead of sending off a CV and cover letter to a real person who reads it, you now have a convoluted process that requires you to game the system just to get in front of a real person.
    I've got through my career without lying on my CV.

    But it's also the case that almost all the jobs I've got have been through personal reference/word of mouth, where they look at the CV after, not before.
    Indeed. It is now utterly impossible to get through the ATS (automated tracking system) without gaming the system. There are now legions of consultants and CV re-writers who are paid top dollar to do this on your behalf. Essentially it's a form of SEO, and is also most necessary at the start of your career (when you're applying without a reputation in the industry or a senior job title).

    I don't envy anyone starting out their careers now. Between the ridiculously convoluted ATS + HR screening rounds + competency tests (and random 'gamified' personality tests') plus 'video interviews' where the questions are pre-written and you have to record yourself giving the answer, it sucks to be a grad these days. Then when you finally get a job, there's no-one to mentor you because senior management is always WFH.
    I think this is only true at junior and mid level. When I hired seniors and leads we only ever had a handful of applicants because the requirements were to have had 7+ years experience for seniors and 10+ for lead/principal, the talent team would screen CVs manually.

    I think companies have to use ATS though because the last time I advertised for "Junior Investment Analyst" or "Associate Data Analyst" we got about 800 applications for the first and almost 2000 for the second. I picked a sample at random and 9/10 applicants shouldn't have bothered, had no relevant experience or skills and had no supporting reports/material to show they could do the role without that. I'm sure if I looked at more it would have been more like 99/100.

    People just don't have the self control not to apply for jobs they aren't suitable for and it means automation is very important. You can just use ChatGPT to make an ATS compliant CV and keep the original one for referrals.
    Unfortunately for me - I need to fill in a spreadsheet for every applicant detailing why they didn't match the job criteria. Since the rise of the LLM's we've gone from maybe ~6 applicants for a post to 60+. Of which 5-6 are the original decent applicant style.

    Luckily my LLM 'scan this applicant' script now spits out a spreadsheet detailing why 90% of the applicants fail. It's great use of time and money. In a way.
  • Another UAPs/UFOs hearing in Congress tomorrow.

    "The emerging threats subcomittee will examine the work of AARO".
    https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1857035943556898893
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Another incident in a Swiss church involving an asylum seeker from Afghanistan:

    https://x.com/thomas_aeschi/status/1858602748360671495
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268

    Another UAPs/UFOs hearing in Congress tomorrow.

    "The emerging threats subcomittee will examine the work of AARO".
    https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1857035943556898893

    Have you seen this edit from the Trump/Rogan interview?

    https://x.com/damonimani/status/1856782964945809787
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,826
    Roger said:

    The suggestion by Michael Crick that she should resign is laughable. Focus pullers in the film business have been 'borrowing' ads forever so they could get a break working as a cameraman. Some I know have become super successful. It would be a bit harsh asking Ridley Scotts DOP to resign after lighting 'Gladiator' because he exaggerated his part in a Renault commercial

    Roger says she stays.. you have been warned.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    Not really to be honest. Just the nature of the various businesss I have been in. In my main line of work there are perhaps 60 or 70 people in Europe doing the job I do. WIth that small a pool, everything tends to be based on reputation and personal interactions.
  • Roger said:

    The suggestion by Michael Crick that she should resign is laughable. Focus pullers in the film business have been 'borrowing' ads forever so they could get a break working as a cameraman. Some I know have become super successful. It would be a bit harsh asking Ridley Scotts DOP to resign after lighting 'Gladiator' because he exaggerated his part in a Renault commercial

    Roger says she stays.. you have been warned.
    Has Prof Peston waded in yet.....
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720
    edited November 18
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I suspect that this is partly why you have such a low opinion of what University offers and their chances of being in existence in 10 years time.
  • Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720

    Olaf Scholz is still refusing to send Germany’s long-range Taurus missiles to Ukraine, despite the US allowing Kyiv limited use of its Atacms missiles for strikes in Russia.

    The German chancellor told a press conference at the G20 summit in Brazil on Monday that it was only possible for Ukraine to use Taurus missiles if “we take joint responsibility for target control”.

    “That is something that I cannot be responsible for, and don’t want to be responsible for,” Mr Scholz explained.

    It seems Herr Scholz doesn't like difficult decisions. Perhaps he's in the wrong job?
    Perhaps he's in a different job to the one on his CV.
  • Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682

    Another UAPs/UFOs hearing in Congress tomorrow.

    "The emerging threats subcomittee will examine the work of AARO".
    https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1857035943556898893

    There’s been absolutely nothing so far. Nothing beyond what we had already heard. And where is Grusch? Where is all the good stuff? I can’t believe people are still being sucked in by this.
  • Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    No idea how he comes to that conclusion given that about 70% of all farms will fall under the rules as they are worth more than £1 million. Of course perhaps he is thinking that farming will be so badly damaged that few will be worth that much in a few years.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082

    The Telegraph has a series of photos from the G20 meeting in Rio and one of them is of security at the meeting. I have to ask, in the picture below, what the hell is the guy carrying? He is holding it like it is a gun with his finger on the trigger but it doesn't look like any weapon I have seen before.


    Anti-drone jamming device.

    https://www.droneshield.com/c-uas-products/dronegun-tactical
    Cheers sir. That's pretty wild.
    And to think people made jokes about the stupidity of this

    https://youtu.be/BMNUsM_nsec?feature=shared
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    That has been debunked on the basis of DEFRA's own figures, which show about 2/3rds of all farms affected.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    Looniversity Challenge on BBC2 just now:

    UCL 215
    St Andrews 105
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,834
    On topic, poor form from Reeves but it was 14 years ago and she's been reselected and elected four times since, presumably on the basis of her performance as MP (and the colour of her rosette).

    Having been found out now, she will take a hit on her trustworthiness, and assuming the reports are correct, that's her fault. But it's not particularly relevant to her role as Chancellor. It probably wasn't all that relevant to her selection prior to 2010: in my experience, a candidate's ability the speak, network and give the right policy and local answers matter a lot more than their past work record. I know Labour's selection process is more convoluted (ludicrously so) than other parties but I expect the same essential dynamics still apply.
  • The Telegraph has a series of photos from the G20 meeting in Rio and one of them is of security at the meeting. I have to ask, in the picture below, what the hell is the guy carrying? He is holding it like it is a gun with his finger on the trigger but it doesn't look like any weapon I have seen before.


    Anti-drone jamming device.

    https://www.droneshield.com/c-uas-products/dronegun-tactical
    Cheers sir. That's pretty wild.
    And to think people made jokes about the stupidity of this

    https://youtu.be/BMNUsM_nsec?feature=shared
    "Does it come in black?"
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213
    edited November 18
    Cyclefree said:

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    That has been debunked on the basis of DEFRA's own figures, which show about 2/3rds of all farms affected.
    It would be interesting to see the figures if the withdrawal of relief only applied to property bought within the last 10 or 15 years. That sort of grandfathering could have avoided most of the controversy. The trouble is it would then be perceived as unfair vis a vis BPR.

    Also interesting to see what it does to behaviour. Farmers really don’t like to retire - they tend to keep hold of the farm and work it until they’re too frail to go on. I know the neighbour to my vineyard is still waiting for his uncle to hand over the family farm, and that’s also holding back innovation - he tends to veto any newfangled ideas. Will we see more lifetime transfers?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213

    On topic, poor form from Reeves but it was 14 years ago and she's been reselected and elected four times since, presumably on the basis of her performance as MP (and the colour of her rosette).

    Having been found out now, she will take a hit on her trustworthiness, and assuming the reports are correct, that's her fault. But it's not particularly relevant to her role as Chancellor. It probably wasn't all that relevant to her selection prior to 2010: in my experience, a candidate's ability the speak, network and give the right policy and local answers matter a lot more than their past work record. I know Labour's selection process is more convoluted (ludicrously so) than other parties but I expect the same essential dynamics still apply.

    Why did she feel the need to fib anyway? Her actual CV is pretty good: Oxford PPE, LSE economics, Bank of England, then a huge UK bank. The embellishment is unnecessary.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,316

    rcs1000 said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.

    How to mes change! My grandfather was sent down from Christchurch for taking £2,000 off the Dean at the bridge table

    Admittedly this was in the 20s..
    We’re still in the 20s.
    The Dean of Christchurch wouldn't be worth 2k today. Autres temps, autres mœurs as they used to say in the 1920s.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    TimS said:

    Olaf Scholz is still refusing to send Germany’s long-range Taurus missiles to Ukraine, despite the US allowing Kyiv limited use of its Atacms missiles for strikes in Russia.

    The German chancellor told a press conference at the G20 summit in Brazil on Monday that it was only possible for Ukraine to use Taurus missiles if “we take joint responsibility for target control”.

    “That is something that I cannot be responsible for, and don’t want to be responsible for,” Mr Scholz explained.

    If I were a defence procurement chief in on of Russia’s neighbours after this war I think I’d be putting a premium on getting hold of weaponry that the maker’s country can’t block on a whim.
    I've heard it said that in the South Korean weapons contracts they block only one country for resale/gifting to.

    Which s why Poland is going all in on the South Korean weapons.
  • TimS said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    That has been debunked on the basis of DEFRA's own figures, which show about 2/3rds of all farms affected.
    It would be interesting to see the figures if the withdrawal of relief only applied to property bought within the last 10 or 15 years. That sort of grandfathering could have avoided most of the controversy. The trouble is it would then be perceived as unfair vis a vis BPR.

    Also interesting to see what it does to behaviour. Farmers really don’t like to retire - they tend to keep hold of the farm and work it until they’re too frail to go on. I know the neighbour to my vineyard is still waiting for his uncle to hand over the family farm, and that’s also holding back innovation - he tends to veto any newfangled ideas. Will we see more lifetime transfers?
    Indeed. I think the addition of grandfathering would have made this an entirely different matter. It would still have caught Clarkson of course so he would still moan but the generational farmers would have been safe.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    Gombeen man = shady businessman wanting to be bribed by Heath, who has a whacking headache after drinking the koolaid poitin of talks with the Nationalists (and by implication the IRA), at Sunningdale, Berks. (Civil Service College),. which makes it 1973, I think. Or is that too early for Mrs T?

    While Mrs T, Rev Paisley and someone I don't recognise - Mr Hume of the SDLP, or Mr Cosgrove the Taoiseach? - look on in consternation.

    Edit: cxould be Barbara Castle.
    Who is the cartoonist? It looks a bit like Cummings, but it's a bit too intelligent for him.
    I think it *is* Cummings.

    The portrayal of the Nationalist side isn't very sympathetic, though that is down to the newspaper. It was certainly usual. I remember seeing a cartoon at the time of bombings in England and it showed IRA pilots of Heinkel-like bombers raining down their payload on London etc while Wilson or more probably Callaghan looked up futilely. Edit: the visual approach to the Republicans was similar.
    Cummings was a dreadful cartoonist. He owed his prominence and longevity to a chance remark from Churchill to Beaverbrook praising one of his cartoons. It cemented his position with his employer.

    The reason I wasn't sure it was Cummings is that he would often write on them the name of the person or thing he was depicting as the drawings were so bad it was generally difficult to recognise them otherwise. This isn't the case here, and the idea is much more convoluted than he normally attempted. The point is however obscure, and unfunny, which was fairly typical.

    He really does not rate very highly amongst cartoonists despite having occupied a prominent position at The Express for decades.

    Edit: Ah, I see he wrote 'Sunningdale Hooch' on the side of the jar, which is a giveaway. The cartoon is competely incomprehensible without this (and merely poor with it.)
    I've had a look for the Luftwaffe-type cartoon but no luck. Perhaps not regarded as canonical today ...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082

    The Telegraph has a series of photos from the G20 meeting in Rio and one of them is of security at the meeting. I have to ask, in the picture below, what the hell is the guy carrying? He is holding it like it is a gun with his finger on the trigger but it doesn't look like any weapon I have seen before.


    Anti-drone jamming device.

    https://www.droneshield.com/c-uas-products/dronegun-tactical
    Cheers sir. That's pretty wild.
    And to think people made jokes about the stupidity of this

    https://youtu.be/BMNUsM_nsec?feature=shared
    "Does it come in black?"
    No, but I believe you own spray gun, Mr Wayne.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    TimS said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    That has been debunked on the basis of DEFRA's own figures, which show about 2/3rds of all farms affected.
    It would be interesting to see the figures if the withdrawal of relief only applied to property bought within the last 10 or 15 years. That sort of grandfathering could have avoided most of the controversy. The trouble is it would then be perceived as unfair vis a vis BPR.

    Also interesting to see what it does to behaviour. Farmers really don’t like to retire - they tend to keep hold of the farm and work it until they’re too frail to go on. I know the neighbour to my vineyard is still waiting for his uncle to hand over the family farm, and that’s also holding back innovation - he tends to veto any newfangled ideas. Will we see more lifetime transfers?
    Also: does it take into account the normal allowances, and the RNRB (x 2 for a couple = £1m in itself)? That's effectively 350K for the farmhouse alone.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,032

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    If that was the case then why is the government retaining the 5p temporary fuel duty cut which costs 10x more than removing the exemption will raise. If you believe this then I've got a bridge you might be interested in.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,082
    Cyclefree said:

    Leon said:

    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Post Office Horizon Scandal: Four suspects identified by police

    Offences being considered by police against individuals include perjury and perverting the course of justice, sources tell Sky News.


    https://news.sky.com/story/post-office-horizon-scandal-four-suspects-identified-by-police-13256357

    Just below that


    “It is not expected, however, that any charges will be brought before 2027/28, and that time frame could be extended.”

    Hardly surprising given that I'm aware of court cases being scheduled for 2026...
    So this is just a consequence of our knackered legal system? It’s quite shocking. Especially the “may he extended” bit. So they might get round to arresting people in the mid 2040s by which time they’ll all be dead. How convenient
    Anyone with a brain could have identified 4 suspects yonks ago. The police were told the names of 2 by Mr Justice Fraser in 2019. It is now 5 years later and the police have managed to identify another 2. Wow!

    There is no intention of holding anyone accountable for this - no matter what the Report says - just as there hasn't been for pretty much every serious scandal inflicted or prolonged by the state or one of its many bodies over the last few decades.

    Delay, delay, delay - until everyone is dead or bored. That's the British state's MO. Enjoy reading the Report instead.

    https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/06/12/the-sicilian-solution/

    There's only one way to be sure


  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,608

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
    I was joking, but it really does look like you ARE a professional hitman.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,465
    edited November 18
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    Gombeen man = shady businessman wanting to be bribed by Heath, who has a whacking headache after drinking the koolaid poitin of talks with the Nationalists (and by implication the IRA), at Sunningdale, Berks. (Civil Service College),. which makes it 1973, I think. Or is that too early for Mrs T?

    While Mrs T, Rev Paisley and someone I don't recognise - Mr Hume of the SDLP, or Mr Cosgrove the Taoiseach? - look on in consternation.

    Edit: cxould be Barbara Castle.
    Who is the cartoonist? It looks a bit like Cummings, but it's a bit too intelligent for him.
    I think it *is* Cummings.

    The portrayal of the Nationalist side isn't very sympathetic, though that is down to the newspaper. It was certainly usual. I remember seeing a cartoon at the time of bombings in England and it showed IRA pilots of Heinkel-like bombers raining down their payload on London etc while Wilson or more probably Callaghan looked up futilely. Edit: the visual approach to the Republicans was similar.
    Cummings was a dreadful cartoonist. He owed his prominence and longevity to a chance remark from Churchill to Beaverbrook praising one of his cartoons. It cemented his position with his employer.

    The reason I wasn't sure it was Cummings is that he would often write on them the name of the person or thing he was depicting as the drawings were so bad it was generally difficult to recognise them otherwise. This isn't the case here, and the idea is much more convoluted than he normally attempted. The point is however obscure, and unfunny, which was fairly typical.

    He really does not rate very highly amongst cartoonists despite having occupied a prominent position at The Express for decades.

    Edit: Ah, I see he wrote 'Sunningdale Hooch' on the side of the jar, which is a giveaway. The cartoon is competely incomprehensible without this (and merely poor with it.)
    I've had a look for the Luftwaffe-type cartoon but no luck. Perhaps not regarded as canonical today ...
    He really does feature very lightly in anthologies of great cartoons and cartoonists.

    His work looks even more embarrassing now than it did at the time.

    Edit: I see now that he wrote the letters I.R.A. on the parody Republican, so this is indeed a fairly typical Cummings effort.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,888
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
    I was joking, but it really does look like you ARE a professional hitman.
    Pete Waterman or the Jackal?
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 726
    Leon said:

    ydoethur said:

    Bridget Phillipson looked suspiciously well dressed in Commons this afternoon.

    I'm just asking questions as they say.

    The slightly perturbing implication of that comment is that she normally looks remarkably undressed.
    She’s the most attractive woman in the Cabinet. A genuine hottie (relatively speaking, given that politics is showbiz for mingers etc)
    I've always had a soft spot for Alison McGovern although she is unaccountably only a Minister of State
  • Bridget Phillipson is both attractive and comes over as much more emotionally authentic than the majority of politicians, male or female.

    Someone to watch for the future.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
  • MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Snowing hard just to the east of you in Lincolnshire as well. Got a good fire going tonight.
  • MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,608

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
    I was joking, but it really does look like you ARE a professional hitman.
    LOL. I was arrested for spying about 30 years ago in Tunisia. 3 days in a Tunisian Jail then deported.


    They never found the bodies ;)
    I know some oil people who had similar experiences in Egypt a few decades ago.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,720
    edited November 18

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
    Blah blah blah wet-bulb temperature blah blah blah

    [Edit: Snow here too, but insufficient for skiing]
  • rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
    I was joking, but it really does look like you ARE a professional hitman.
    LOL. I was arrested for spying about 30 years ago in Tunisia. 3 days in a Tunisian Jail then deported.


    They never found the bodies ;)
    I know some oil people who had similar experiences in Egypt a few decades ago.
    It was partly my fault for screwing up permits and mostly the fault of the company I was working for who, when contacted by the Tunisian police, denied all knowledge of me. Thanks guys.

    The Tunisians were pretty decent. I think they could see from the very start it was a cockup rather than a conspiracy. But I would rather not repeat the experience of Tunisian jail.

    Sadly the company in question did the same thing to a good friend of mine, a Frenchman, in Nigeria. He spent 3 months in a Nigerian jail and never worked again. :(
  • MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    Looking outside, winter is here already.

    Then again, Autumn began in July this year.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,974

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
    global warming

    climate change

    the climate emergency (is this one still current?)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,069

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Snowing hard just to the east of you in Lincolnshire as well. Got a good fire going tonight.
    Curse this least snowy suburb of the least snowy big city in the country.

    Actually, looking outside, it is snowing, a bit. Not settling, mind.
  • The end of Sure Start was in the name of less government.

    80% of council spending being on children’s services is not unknown some 15 years later.

    I’m hoping that may give us pause about the usefulness of small government.

    Cutting the funding for a service does not magically make the need go away...
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585

    Leon said:

    Post Office Horizon Scandal: Four suspects identified by police

    Offences being considered by police against individuals include perjury and perverting the course of justice, sources tell Sky News.


    https://news.sky.com/story/post-office-horizon-scandal-four-suspects-identified-by-police-13256357

    Just below that


    “It is not expected, however, that any charges will be brought before 2027/28, and that time frame could be extended.”

    FOUR??!!! I could name 44 without trying too hard or scratching below the surface.

    You start with the Investigation Team - do all the heads and some of the more outlandish investigators. Then you do all the heads of legal, IT, and HR. You certainly do all the CEOs and Chairpeople. Gareth Jenkins is a slam dunk - he has virtually confessed - and Vennells of course.

    The number implicated probably exceeds a thousand but I'd settle for 44. I suspect however that if Sporting Index were offering a spread on the market the opening price would be about 4-6, and it won't be settled while I am alive, if ever.
    I'm not even bothered about jailing them - just remove all their pensions...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,879

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
    Currently here it's 0C.

    (Says Alexa)
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    What A Level grades did you get?
  • rcs1000 said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.
    I once got to play a tournament sitting opposite Zia Mahmood.

    Didn't put it on a CV though. We didn't win...

    [I am also an average (long retired) bridge player]
    I remember Tom Townsend. Played with him a fair bit whilst at Cambridge.

    Tended to lose at poker though.
  • Hello from Sheffield. My eldest graduated today with a First Class honours degree in English. Very proud dad here.

    Congratulations to your eldest and you are right to be proud
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    I hope Europe is in a position to cope in case of a cold winter. We've been lucky to have had two mild ones in a row.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,608

    I hope Europe is in a position to cope in case of a cold winter. We've been lucky to have had two mild ones in a row.

    Storage is about 95% right now, which is a little bit above the five year average but not as good as last year. That said, in the last two winters, Europe hasn't even half emptied its storage, so there's a *lot* of redundancy in there, especially considering that there's quite a lot more LNG around than previously.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,608

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    It's not what you know, it's who you know, eh? 😉
    Its what you know and who you know. :) Not many survive for long doing the job. When you screw up it tends to be big time. You don't recover from screwups as everyone knows.
    I was joking, but it really does look like you ARE a professional hitman.
    LOL. I was arrested for spying about 30 years ago in Tunisia. 3 days in a Tunisian Jail then deported.


    They never found the bodies ;)
    I know some oil people who had similar experiences in Egypt a few decades ago.
    It was partly my fault for screwing up permits and mostly the fault of the company I was working for who, when contacted by the Tunisian police, denied all knowledge of me. Thanks guys.

    The Tunisians were pretty decent. I think they could see from the very start it was a cockup rather than a conspiracy. But I would rather not repeat the experience of Tunisian jail.

    Sadly the company in question did the same thing to a good friend of mine, a Frenchman, in Nigeria. He spent 3 months in a Nigerian jail and never worked again. :(
    Poor guy, that must have been absolutely awful for him.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213
    Driver said:

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
    global warming

    climate change

    the climate emergency (is this one still current?)
    Central England Temperature anomaly so far this month: +2.4C
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,888

    I hope Europe is in a position to cope in case of a cold winter. We've been lucky to have had two mild ones in a row.

    Whatever you say about the Conservative Government they expedited mild winters. Let's see if Starmer cocks that up too.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213

    I hope Europe is in a position to cope in case of a cold winter. We've been lucky to have had two mild ones in a row.

    An average winter would be bad enough. We forget what average is like. By now large tracts of Eastern Europe would often be snow covered back in the 70s and 80s.

    But prices aren’t going back anywhere near 2022/3 even if it’s a frigid one.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,465
    edited November 18
    eek said:

    Leon said:

    Post Office Horizon Scandal: Four suspects identified by police

    Offences being considered by police against individuals include perjury and perverting the course of justice, sources tell Sky News.


    https://news.sky.com/story/post-office-horizon-scandal-four-suspects-identified-by-police-13256357

    Just below that


    “It is not expected, however, that any charges will be brought before 2027/28, and that time frame could be extended.”

    FOUR??!!! I could name 44 without trying too hard or scratching below the surface.

    You start with the Investigation Team - do all the heads and some of the more outlandish investigators. Then you do all the heads of legal, IT, and HR. You certainly do all the CEOs and Chairpeople. Gareth Jenkins is a slam dunk - he has virtually confessed - and Vennells of course.

    The number implicated probably exceeds a thousand but I'd settle for 44. I suspect however that if Sporting Index were offering a spread on the market the opening price would be about 4-6, and it won't be settled while I am alive, if ever.
    I'm not even bothered about jailing them - just remove all their pensions...
    You would like to think so, especially for those whose pensions are calculated to include the bonuses paid out on bogus figures. Can't see it happening though.

    If it really is going to be just four prosecutions (some time in the distant future) one wonders who it will be. Maybe Betfair really should run a market.

    Gareth Jenkins would be sure to be one, since he has all but confessed.

    Paula Vennells is a nice scapegoat, so I guess she's in.

    The ridiculous Jarnail Singh is another condemned out of his own mouth, although his extreme stupidity may get him off.

    John Scott, who ordered the shrerdding of incriminating evidence, would be another strong candidate.

    Former CEO Tim Parker should be included, because he was the one who refrained from informing the Board of the damning advice from its solicitors, but he tends to be regarded as one of the Great And The Good, so he may swim through the net.

    You don't really have to try too hard to find other strong candidates, but if it is only going to be four the bar is set very high indeed.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Snowing hard just to the east of you in Lincolnshire as well. Got a good fire going tonight.
    I have had the log burner roaring away at full throttle this evening.

    Winter is here.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,879
    edited November 18
    Bluesky Anecdata

    Having run a twitter vs Bluesky audit this evening, it seems that about 12% of my followed / followers have accounts that could be identified from name references in handle, display name or description.

    Make of that what you will - the community is about 4400 both follower and following, and I have not checked overlap. It should be reasonably free of long dead accounts or spam as I have been pruning any "no activity for 6 months or more" accounts every year recently, and have an active blocking finger especially on soft porn ads.

    My one comment would be that it should be worth grabbing the same handle if you can get it if you have a Twitter or other regular social media identity, even if just you put a single post on saying "I'm still on TWITTER, so there !" on it. Especially if you are common, and don't want eg JohnSmith892 .

    Nigel Farage has already lost his simple name to a parody, and Lee Anderson will once again be LeeAndersonMP_ , should they create accounts.

    For content, from Ill and Ancient, whom some may remember. With a list of books published this year in the Scots language.

    ‪illandancient.bsky.social‬ ‪@illandancient.bsky.social‬·
    9h As we approach the festive season, I'm pulling together a list of books written in the Scots language published this year.
    There's about thirty of them by my reckoning. Are there any I have missed?

    (Image of list attached to his post, but I'm out of quota.)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    I hope Mr Reed is not in central London tomorrow because if he goes anywhere near the thousands of farmers heading for the march in the capital he may find himself dumped in the Thames or being chased by a tractor
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Snowing hard just to the east of you in Lincolnshire as well. Got a good fire going tonight.
    I have had the log burner roaring away at full throttle this evening.

    Winter is here.
    The White Walkers cannot be far behind...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.autumn

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Corrected for you. It ain’t winter yet…
    How come it's snowing? :lol:
    Global warming
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864

    I hope Europe is in a position to cope in case of a cold winter. We've been lucky to have had two mild ones in a row.

    Thank goodness the new Labour government has kept winter fuel allowance for pensioners who might otherwise freeze in the winter cold snap...oh wait
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I suspect that this is partly why you have such a low opinion of what University offers and their chances of being in existence in 10 years time.
    Sadly, that is not true

    I say sadly because - while I might spit venom at Woke Academe (deservedly) - I think universities at their best are wonderful things. Great for society, great for students going through them. I had a brilliant time at UCL - I grew socially and spiritually and had lots of sex and drugs. I just didn’t study much

    However I can see the machine writing on the wall. The university model is already cracking and will soon collapse; most will go bust. Students will not take on all that debt for no jobs at the end, especially when they can be taught at home for pennies

    Lord knows what will replace them, if anything. Turbulent times ahead
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,443

    rcs1000 said:

    A quarter of 18 - 25 year olds have exaggerated their CV.

    Bit of a crap shoot employing them isn't it?

    My CV stated that I'd played for the Cambridge University First Bridge Team. Which was both (a) true, and (b) deeply misleading.

    It was the very last duplicate pairs match of the Cambridgeshire League, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) the Cambridge University First Team was miles ahead of everyone else. I was good friends with Tom Townsend (then the England Under 21 Bridge team captain), and he said "we're a man short, come along and play."

    So I did. I played for Cambridge University First Bridge Team, and my partner was Tom Townsend.

    It was a lot of fun, and I got to put it on my CV. If anyone asked, I told them the truth about what happened. But it was also - I suppose - enormously misleading, because I am a very average bridge player.

    How to mes change! My grandfather was sent down from Christchurch for taking £2,000 off the Dean at the bridge table

    Admittedly this was in the 20s..

    We’re still in the 20s.
    You had 5 decades to pick from.

    You were not right
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,945

    Hello from Sheffield. My eldest graduated today with a First Class honours degree in English. Very proud dad here.

    Fantastic. Nice to have some positive news on here!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,471
    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    First snow of the winter.

    600ft elevation. Notts.


    Snowing hard just to the east of you in Lincolnshire as well. Got a good fire going tonight.
    Curse this least snowy suburb of the least snowy big city in the country.

    Actually, looking outside, it is snowing, a bit. Not settling, mind.
    Hey Cookie. Rain turned to snow about three hours ago here in Wigan. It's been coming down bloody hard and has begun to settle now.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    What A Level grades did you get?
    BBC

    Economics, Medieval History, English

    Not exactly dazzling but then UCL offered me a place if I got two E’s (that was their weird way back then) so I kind of coasted. I knew I’d get in so the tension drained away. Which made for a very pleasant end of sixth form and summer

    Ah, youth
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    Our public services are broken.

    The Government is asking rich estates and the most valuable farms to pay their fair share.

    Small family farms will not be affected. Only about 500 estates a year will pay more under the new scheme than they do today.

    https://x.com/SteveReedMP/status/1858613805737296378

    The trick is not to die under a Labour Government...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I suspect that this is partly why you have such a low opinion of what University offers and their chances of being in existence in 10 years time.
    Sadly, that is not true

    I say sadly because - while I might spit venom at Woke Academe (deservedly) - I think universities at their best are wonderful things. Great for society, great for students going through them. I had a brilliant time at UCL - I grew socially and spiritually and had lots of sex and drugs. I just didn’t study much

    However I can see the machine writing on the wall. The university model is already cracking and will soon collapse; most will go bust. Students will not take on all that debt for no jobs at the end, especially when they can be taught at home for pennies

    Lord knows what will replace them, if anything. Turbulent times ahead
    Experience tells me that learning at home does not work. And an awful lot of jobs will require degrees. Let’s circle back in 10 years? I presume your 5th incarnation from now will still be around?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934
    I was once arrested at the East German border, trying to get into West Germany.

    It was only for five hours, but you don't need that detail...
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,443
    carnforth said:



    From the Thatcher auction linked above. I've looked up all the words and, no, still no idea.

    And Wikipedia says…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombeen_man
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 18
    England to use elite player contracts to lure talent back from France with Junior Kpoku a target

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/11/18/england-eps-deals-lure-talent-france-junior-kpoku-top-14/

    Or you could just change your stupid selection rule, that no other sport follows.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I suspect that this is partly why you have such a low opinion of what University offers and their chances of being in existence in 10 years time.
    Sadly, that is not true

    I say sadly because - while I might spit venom at Woke Academe (deservedly) - I think universities at their best are wonderful things. Great for society, great for students going through them. I had a brilliant time at UCL - I grew socially and spiritually and had lots of sex and drugs. I just didn’t study much

    However I can see the machine writing on the wall. The university model is already cracking and will soon collapse; most will go bust. Students will not take on all that debt for no jobs at the end, especially when they can be taught at home for pennies

    Lord knows what will replace them, if anything. Turbulent times ahead
    Experience tells me that learning at home does not work. And an awful lot of jobs will require degrees. Let’s circle back in 10 years? I presume your 5th incarnation from now will still be around?
    Correction - an awful lot of jobs perceived to require a certain amount of thinking will use degrees as a convenient gate keeper to make recruitment relatively painless...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,682
    Leon said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    What A Level grades did you get?
    BBC

    Economics, Medieval History, English

    Not exactly dazzling but then UCL offered me a place if I got two E’s (that was their weird way back then) so I kind of coasted. I knew I’d get in so the tension drained away. Which made for a very pleasant end of sixth form and summer

    Ah, youth
    Had you also applied to Oxford or Cambridge? I had a three E offer to study Chemistry at Warwick, mainly so I would pick them as insurance for the Cambridge place. Sadly I didn’t shine at the Cambridge interview so Rubbish old Warwick it was…
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Am I the only PBer who has never had to write a proper CV? Never done a job that required one. Never been asked to submit one

    It would be quite colourful tho

    1992: jail, mainly
    1993: haven’t got a fucking clue
    1994-2001: heroin
    2002-2005: see 1993

    Me. Every job I have ever got has been on the basis of personal recommendation. I do have a CV which I keep updated just in case but have never actually had to use it
    Admirable

    For 50 years I've scratched a living on the outer fringes of publishing and have been, in no particular order, printer, publisher, photographer, designer, writer, editor, web designer and delivery boy. If any of these roles had demanded a CV it would have confirmed the fact that I was qualified for none of them.
    Has anyone ever asked about your degree?

    I’ve also gone my entire life without anyone ever inquiring about my degree, university, results etc

    It was a 2:2 in Philosophy from UCL, and I was damn lucky to get that given my contemptuous attitude to my own course
    I suspect that this is partly why you have such a low opinion of what University offers and their chances of being in existence in 10 years time.
    Sadly, that is not true

    I say sadly because - while I might spit venom at Woke Academe (deservedly) - I think universities at their best are wonderful things. Great for society, great for students going through them. I had a brilliant time at UCL - I grew socially and spiritually and had lots of sex and drugs. I just didn’t study much

    However I can see the machine writing on the wall. The university model is already cracking and will soon collapse; most will go bust. Students will not take on all that debt for no jobs at the end, especially when they can be taught at home for pennies

    Lord knows what will replace them, if anything. Turbulent times ahead
    Experience tells me that learning at home does not work. And an awful lot of jobs will require degrees. Let’s circle back in 10 years? I presume your 5th incarnation from now will still be around?
    Bro, the jobs are going. They really ARE

    Better to be prepared for the inevitable than to live in denial
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