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Pulpstar said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Pulpstar said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

All sorts of grey areas around whether a TV Licence was required as well!

What's the grey area around a TV license ? It was definitely a live broadcast.

Agreed, but not available via another "mainstream" broadcaster. Netflix don't do scheduled regular broadcasts and can't be considered a TV broadcaster
The BlackBelt Barrister on YouTube has done loads around this sort of stuff.
On balance, I'd say a licence was marginal.

No, it was definitely required - the main thing which means people don't need licenses is the fact it's essentially unenforceable unless people self incriminate when the license people turn up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvkWGs8nw60 sums it up well.

Luckyguy1983 said:

Unpopular said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I have said before, I would introduce American style sheriffs alongside the police. Tell them to have at it. If the police didn't sort their shit out, more and more of their funding would go to the sheriffs. They are a monopoly, and all monopolies have the same effect.

FPT
Scotland already has Sheriffs, though I can't quite imagine them delivering 'summary justice' in the same way as an American Sheriff from the bench, giving them a six-shooter might change the dynamics in court somewhat. Perhaps @DavidL is in a better place to comment.

I don’t think we're alone - pretty sure England has some too no? But of course I speak of the US kind. I hadn't thought of giving them pistols but the idea is tempting.

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I love a good dump.




Lloyds Bank accused of swamping car finance lawyers with truckloads of post

Courmacs Legal claims lender sent ‘tens of thousands’ of letters daily to stop compensation claims

Lloyds Bank has been accused of “swamping” lawyers with truckloads of post to stop them claiming compensation for drivers in the car finance mis-selling scandal.

Courmacs Legal claimed it was receiving “tens of thousands” of legal letters every day from the bank’s finance arm, Black Horse, which other lenders instead send electronically.

Darren Smith, the managing director of Courmacs Legal, said: “We receive cages of post. We’ve gone from having the conventional post van that arrives at your house to a large transit van.

“We now get our post delivered by a truck from the Post Office because they are trying to swamp us out with post.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/18/lloyds-bank-swamping-car-finance-lawyers-truckloads-post/

carnforth said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I love a good dump.




Lloyds Bank accused of swamping car finance lawyers with truckloads of post

Courmacs Legal claims lender sent ‘tens of thousands’ of letters daily to stop compensation claims

Lloyds Bank has been accused of “swamping” lawyers with truckloads of post to stop them claiming compensation for drivers in the car finance mis-selling scandal.

Courmacs Legal claimed it was receiving “tens of thousands” of legal letters every day from the bank’s finance arm, Black Horse, which other lenders instead send electronically.

Darren Smith, the managing director of Courmacs Legal, said: “We receive cages of post. We’ve gone from having the conventional post van that arrives at your house to a large transit van.

“We now get our post delivered by a truck from the Post Office because they are trying to swamp us out with post.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/18/lloyds-bank-swamping-car-finance-lawyers-truckloads-post/

Lloyds sent me a letter yesterday confirming I had such a finance agreement. But the form for getting compensation requires me to fill in long-form answers on why I deserve it. Going to hold off for now and wait in the hope that the legal system forces them to make it much simpler and almost automatic.

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I love a good dump.




Lloyds Bank accused of swamping car finance lawyers with truckloads of post

Courmacs Legal claims lender sent ‘tens of thousands’ of letters daily to stop compensation claims

Lloyds Bank has been accused of “swamping” lawyers with truckloads of post to stop them claiming compensation for drivers in the car finance mis-selling scandal.

Courmacs Legal claimed it was receiving “tens of thousands” of legal letters every day from the bank’s finance arm, Black Horse, which other lenders instead send electronically.

Darren Smith, the managing director of Courmacs Legal, said: “We receive cages of post. We’ve gone from having the conventional post van that arrives at your house to a large transit van.

“We now get our post delivered by a truck from the Post Office because they are trying to swamp us out with post.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/18/lloyds-bank-swamping-car-finance-lawyers-truckloads-post/

Ed Miliband will be incensed at all the trees that had to be cut down....

Fishing said:

MaxPB said:

So on balance I'd take anyone over Rachel Reeves. Even with the lack of talent on the Labour front bench, I'd rather someone who didn't have a frankly dangerous view of his/her own competence and experience.

You've never worked in government I take it? I have, and most ministers I worked for had frankly dangerous views of their own competence and experience. From what I've seen, Reeves isn't particularly exceptional in that way.

The ones that didn't were the ones who never cared about the issues they were supposed to be in charge of, and only ever asked you in a panicked way five minutes before a TV interview "What am I supposed to say about this?" They were the ones Sir Humphrey would have loved - the ones who let the civil service run itself.

No_Offence_Alan said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

StillWaters said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

I’d take $40 million vs that reputation

Also with loads of money you can always deploy enough PR spin to improve your reputation, ask Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg....

I don't think Bill Gates' reputation ever needed improving.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sean_F said:

Fishing said:

HYUFD said:

'With Keir Starmer hoping to reset UK-China relations at the G20 summit this week, 63% of Britons currently see China as either an unfriendly nation or a threatening one

% saying China is generally...
A friend and ally: 3%
A friendly rival: 14%
Unfriendly: 33%
A hostile threat: 30%'

Only Russia is seen as a more hostile threat to the UK while Australia, New Zealand and Canada are seen as the UK's closest friends and allies
https://x.com/YouGov/status/1858462115679687045

I'm always fascinated by the 3% or so you get in each poll who give the ridiculous answer.

Are they:

- completely uninformed
- mentally ill
- taking the piss

or a mix of the above?

Either way, worrying that they have as many votes each as the sensible 63%, as questions aren't always this clear-cut.

It's the same 3% who say they believe in vampires.

They dwell among us.

I remember quite a funny Dave Gorman episode where he looked at YouGov panel. It had some crackers e.g. fans of Little Mix are far more right wing, than fans of Karl Marx are left wing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wa9SpmLJUE

Nigelb said:

Malmesbury said:

Selebian said:

Malmesbury said:

TimS said:

Roger said:

TimS said:

Nigelb said:

HYUFD said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

Nigelb said:

MattW said:

dixiedean said:

Quite remarkable!
World leading ballet dancer, "loses his balance" on a fifth floor Moscow balcony.
What were the odds?

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/nov/18/vladimir-shklyarov-russian-ballet-star-dies-aged-39-after-falling-from-building

I can't call that.

Was he on Putin's possible death list for any reason?

IIRC from my past reading of the Mitrokhin Archive, the KGB plotted to do things to Rudolf Nureyev after he defected.

We need to remember and remind ourselves how evil are these regimes. (Yes, that's a moral judgement.)

Or he just had an affair with the wrong person.

Just as likely some random oligarch did it, rather than the state.

Ballet dancer past his best, carrying a painful injury and facing major surgery? Any other nationality and I'd not want to rule out suicide.

Liam Payne had a similar incident a few weeks ago of course

Really ??
How did he piss Putin off ?

I worry about our French house as we're starting to let it out to tourists next year, and the upstairs bedroom windows are huge and would be easy to climb out of if you were so inclined. I read that one of the members of Supergrass broke his back falling from a first floor bedroom window in a Provence holiday let. Hopefully the insurance will cover falling tourist risk.

I hope it's not in Bellou Calvados. Yesterday was the anniversary of the death of my good friend and cameraman Michel Gemmell who fell off the roof of his house there 14 years ago. Here's one of his commercials. One of my favourites and a fitting tribute.....

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=millerlite.+he+aint+heavy+hes+my+brother#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:48d1f72d,vid:TvJyZ9fm73M,st:0

It's not, but gosh this sort of thing does seem to happen a lot. Your poor friend. A family friend of ours had a house in Calvados and broke (I think) his pelvis falling off a ladder. Was alone and stuck on the ground for hours before he managed to shout to a passer by on the road.

Rule one of anything vaguely hazardous. Don’t do it alone. This includes ladders.

Especially ladders.

The logistics of having two people on a domestic ladder are tricky though. I do prefer to go solo

You are supposed to have someone at the foot of the ladder to steady it. The number of people who don’t know that….

Get a decent ladder with bracing at the base - and/or fix it in at the top so it can't slip.

Gardenwalker said:

MaxPB said:

Starmer about to sell the country out to China now. He already gave up the Chagos Islands to China, wonder what they'll ask for next?

Do you not think the British PM should meet the Chinese leader?

The last such occasion was 2019…

Malmesbury said:

Nigelb said:

Malmesbury said:

Selebian said:

Malmesbury said:

TimS said:

Roger said:

TimS said:

Nigelb said:

HYUFD said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

Nigelb said:

MattW said:

dixiedean said:

Quite remarkable!
World leading ballet dancer, "loses his balance" on a fifth floor Moscow balcony.
What were the odds?

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/nov/18/vladimir-shklyarov-russian-ballet-star-dies-aged-39-after-falling-from-building

I can't call that.

Was he on Putin's possible death list for any reason?

IIRC from my past reading of the Mitrokhin Archive, the KGB plotted to do things to Rudolf Nureyev after he defected.

We need to remember and remind ourselves how evil are these regimes. (Yes, that's a moral judgement.)

Or he just had an affair with the wrong person.

Just as likely some random oligarch did it, rather than the state.

Ballet dancer past his best, carrying a painful injury and facing major surgery? Any other nationality and I'd not want to rule out suicide.

Liam Payne had a similar incident a few weeks ago of course

Really ??
How did he piss Putin off ?

I worry about our French house as we're starting to let it out to tourists next year, and the upstairs bedroom windows are huge and would be easy to climb out of if you were so inclined. I read that one of the members of Supergrass broke his back falling from a first floor bedroom window in a Provence holiday let. Hopefully the insurance will cover falling tourist risk.

I hope it's not in Bellou Calvados. Yesterday was the anniversary of the death of my good friend and cameraman Michel Gemmell who fell off the roof of his house there 14 years ago. Here's one of his commercials. One of my favourites and a fitting tribute.....

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=millerlite.+he+aint+heavy+hes+my+brother#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:48d1f72d,vid:TvJyZ9fm73M,st:0

It's not, but gosh this sort of thing does seem to happen a lot. Your poor friend. A family friend of ours had a house in Calvados and broke (I think) his pelvis falling off a ladder. Was alone and stuck on the ground for hours before he managed to shout to a passer by on the road.

Rule one of anything vaguely hazardous. Don’t do it alone. This includes ladders.

Especially ladders.

The logistics of having two people on a domestic ladder are tricky though. I do prefer to go solo

You are supposed to have someone at the foot of the ladder to steady it. The number of people who don’t know that….

Get a decent ladder with bracing at the base - and/or fix it in at the top so it can't slip.

… and the have someone at the bottom as well.

The number of ladder stories that started with - “I set the ladder up right - square, braced at the foot….”

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

williamglenn said:

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1858507253625635325

C-Lion1 submarine cable running between Finland and Germany has broken, and its communication connections are cut — Yle

williamglenn said:

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1858507253625635325

C-Lion1 submarine cable running between Finland and Germany has broken, and its communication connections are cut — Yle

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

Starmer about to sell the country out to China now. He already gave up the Chagos Islands to China, wonder what they'll ask for next?

UK paying China compensation over Opium Wars?

MaxPB said:

Starmer about to sell the country out to China now. He already gave up the Chagos Islands to China, wonder what they'll ask for next?

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Sandpit said:

MaxPB said:

Starmer about to sell the country out to China now. He already gave up the Chagos Islands to China, wonder what they'll ask for next?

Shein IPO in London, after NY turned them down? A few billion in hard currency heading back to China.

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

Casino_Royale said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

Starmer about to sell the country out to China now. He already gave up the Chagos Islands to China, wonder what they'll ask for next?

UK paying China compensation over Opium Wars?

Don't give him ideas.

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

He pulls out of NATO and/or applies tariffs to the UK.

He also gives Putin the green light to invade outside of Ukraine.

An EU/European Army is essential, helping trade will too

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

FrancisUrquhart said:

biggles said:

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

Live on actual Christmas Day? I thought the Americans were more religious than us? Do they have sport on the day itself?

American's religion is capitalism....it is normal to have big sportsball matches on the big holidays as they get mega audience. 30 million viewers for Christmas day NFL game. Boxing day isn't a thing in US.

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

He pulls out of NATO and/or applies tariffs to the UK.

He also gives Putin the green light to invade outside of Ukraine.

An EU/European Army is essential, helping trade will too

turbotubbs said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

biggles said:

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

Live on actual Christmas Day? I thought the Americans were more religious than us? Do they have sport on the day itself?

American's religion is capitalism....it is normal to have big sportsball matches on the big holidays as they get mega audience. 30 million viewers for Christmas day NFL game. Boxing day isn't a thing in US.

Pretty sure we used to have Christmas Day football in the UK too.

Edit - just checked - last time was 1965.

biggles said:

turbotubbs said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

biggles said:

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

Live on actual Christmas Day? I thought the Americans were more religious than us? Do they have sport on the day itself?

American's religion is capitalism....it is normal to have big sportsball matches on the big holidays as they get mega audience. 30 million viewers for Christmas day NFL game. Boxing day isn't a thing in US.

Pretty sure we used to have Christmas Day football in the UK too.

Edit - just checked - last time was 1965.

Seems like a great idea. Something just after the King to fall asleep to.

biggles said:

eek said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

If Trump follows through on his policies either the UK needs to get a very favourable deal or we will need to shift closure to the EU just to avoid contagion from the tariffs...

Yup. Nothing even close to joining the EU.

malcolmg said:

MattW said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Unpopular said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

I have said before, I would introduce American style sheriffs alongside the police. Tell them to have at it. If the police didn't sort their shit out, more and more of their funding would go to the sheriffs. They are a monopoly, and all monopolies have the same effect.

FPT
Scotland already has Sheriffs, though I can't quite imagine them delivering 'summary justice' in the same way as an American Sheriff from the bench, giving them a six-shooter might change the dynamics in court somewhat. Perhaps @DavidL is in a better place to comment.

I don’t think we're alone - pretty sure England has some too no? But of course I speak of the US kind. I hadn't thought of giving them pistols but the idea is tempting.

In England these days I think we have High Sheriffs, who are a ceremonial official representing the monarch, like Lord Lieutenants.

In Scotland they are a legal official analogous to I think a District Judge in England.

I'm never quite sure what a Justice of the Peace is, except they sometimes emerge to do things. The last I heard of one was when a well-connected friend wanted to put up a notice withdrawing the common law right of some officials to enter his property.

Matt, just for you
Justice of the Peace courts replaced the previous district courts. In Justice of the Peace courts, lay justices of the peace work with a legally qualified clerk of court who gives advice on law and procedure. Justices of the peace handle minor criminal matters.

turbotubbs said:

biggles said:

turbotubbs said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

biggles said:

eek said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

MaxPB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

eek said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TOPPING said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TOPPING said:

Twitter is absolutely without peer for on the spot footage of whatever event has just occurred. It showed the shooting at the Fishmongers/London Bridge, for example and generally, if disappointingly, has footage of just about anything serious and bad that happens from moments after and often as it is happening as someone had their camera out to take pictures of their local Budgens/the moon/whatever.

It is also good for the following things:

1. Reading what latest lunacy your political foes are thinking or pushing (eg James O'B, Owen J);
2. Steve Inman's non-essential commentary; and
3. The odd time spent doom-scrolling as long as strictly time-limited.

Carl Froch is getting tasty with Jake Paul on there as well.
Apart from the payday aspect, I think the Tyson fight has been a disaster for Paul.
Sure he'll make money, but no one takes him seriously as a pro boxer.

Agree. Maybe The Cobra senses a payday.

I haven't brought myself to watch the fight given I was calling it strongly for Tyson, but I did see a couple of clips, one where Paul tagged Tyson and several the other way round.

How did you see it.

It wasn't a fight. It was an old bloke hobbling around the ring, while the young bloke occasionally jabbed him before running away. Rinse and repeat for 2mins x 8. I've seen more action waiting for a taxi on a Friday night in town (not when the pubs are closing, when the play centre closes).

You were lucky if you actually got to watch it, rather than watching a buffering screen, followed by a network error screen, followed by missing two rounds as you restarted your TV box…

The biggest platform fail since Ron DeSantis’ campaign launch on Twitter.

The thing I don't get is why was Netflix (whose entire infrastructure is designed around streaming recorded data which is kept locally to minimise costs all round) trying to do a really big show as it's first attempt as it's first attempt at streaming live media...

A few lower interest comedy specials would have allowed the scaling of their technology to be tested first before it very publicly fell over...

They actually did, with Joe Rogan’s special and the Tom Brady Roast both streamed live earlier this year. But this fight was an order of magnitude bigger, attracting a worldwide live audience, and they couldn’t scale the infrastructure. The suggestion is that 60m devices tried to watch it.

Their next big event will likely be okay, Amazon, Twitter, Apple, and F1TV, all had a nightmare when they first started doing live events, as it’s a different CDN technology from streaming previously recorded and uploaded files - but they all fixed it pretty quickly.

Netflix have the NFL on Christmas Day. with Beyonce doing a concert at half time. They better have their streaming tech sorted for that.

The audience for that won't be anywhere near as big. This was easily one of the biggest global streaming events. All other companies don't usually have global rights and only need to serve one or two territories or like F1TV it's just not as popular or has a premium fee. This was available to all Netflix subscribers across the world, that's a potential ~250m viewers who could watch what would normally be a £50-60 PPV. Netflix hugely underestimated demand, they used their water pistol instead of the firehouse that YouTube has.

30 million is a fairly normal amount to watch the Christmas day NFL game in the US even without Beyonce doing her thing. Now that won't be the 60 million that supposed try to watch the fight on Saturday, but still a huge number of people.

But that's still just in a single country with probably just a few CDNs. I can't imagine what Netflix would actually need for this and whether they might just call it a day with these kinds of global live streams.

Well Netflix have just doubled down on the Christmas day NFL game. - Beyonce will bring in an audience even if the match doesn't..

https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lba2m44ooc2v

Beyoncé will perform live during halftime of an NFL Christmas Day game on Netflix, the streaming giant announced. It is the first time NFL games will streamed live on its service.

The star will perform in her hometown of Houston, where the Texans will host the Baltimore Ravens at NRG Stadium.

Live on actual Christmas Day? I thought the Americans were more religious than us? Do they have sport on the day itself?

American's religion is capitalism....it is normal to have big sportsball matches on the big holidays as they get mega audience. 30 million viewers for Christmas day NFL game. Boxing day isn't a thing in US.

Pretty sure we used to have Christmas Day football in the UK too.

Edit - just checked - last time was 1965.

Seems like a great idea. Something just after the King to fall asleep to.

Reading up it seemed to have been a thing from the start of league football and often involved back to back home and away ties (often on Christmas Day then Boxing Day). A lot less entertainment in those days of course.

Leon said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

When will Rejoiners realise the future EU is going to be hard right?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/18/european-union-right-wing-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-commission-hard-right-parties

It will be interesting to see how lefty Remainers react to this dawning reality

Leon said:

Leon said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

When will Rejoiners realise the future EU is going to be hard right?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/18/european-union-right-wing-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-commission-hard-right-parties

It will be interesting to see how lefty Remainers react to this dawning reality

Someone flagged this. I take it Remainers don’t like this awkward new fact

eek said:

Leon said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

When will Rejoiners realise the future EU is going to be hard right?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/18/european-union-right-wing-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-commission-hard-right-parties

It will be interesting to see how lefty Remainers react to this dawning reality

The entire world is going to shift right - the immigrants arriving now are only a small number compared to what we will see as global warming really takes effect...

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

Finland has always seemed a bit pointless and “extra”. I mean: Iceland is proper fun. Denmark is near and has Lego. Norway is genuinely Nordic - it’s in the name - and Sweden has meatballs, IKEA and ABBA. All good

But what’s the point of Finland? Just an extra sticky-out bit that exhausts the theme, like that sixth season of House where it all went wrong

Just call it something else. Like, I dunno, “Russia”. Sorted

You’ve either never been to Finland or, much more likely, since it’s your usual modus operandi, just jetted in and out without learning anything whatsoever.

Benpointer said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TOPPING said:

eek said:

Leon said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

When will Rejoiners realise the future EU is going to be hard right?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/18/european-union-right-wing-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-commission-hard-right-parties

It will be interesting to see how lefty Remainers react to this dawning reality

The entire world is going to shift right - the immigrants arriving now are only a small number compared to what we will see as global warming really takes effect...

When are you expecting global warming really to take effect.

Any day now, surely.

Oh God, the global warming deniers are back.

Luckyguy1983 said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

He pulls out of NATO and/or applies tariffs to the UK.

He also gives Putin the green light to invade outside of Ukraine.

An EU/European Army is essential, helping trade will too

So you can’t show anything of the sort.

If he pulls out of NATO, the European defence agreement that follows will be built on NATO. It will need multiple members not in the EU.

That is, of course, not even touching on the fact that Ukraine shows us that western militaries out match his. He couldn’t invade Poland without a humiliating defeat, never mind Europe.

Nuclear weapons are an issue, but that would make us more essential that ever, alongside the French, in helping to retain a nuclear umbrella; giving us massive leverage. Stick to law - you don’t get defence.

His tariff policies might or might not push us into a closer trading relationship, necessitating some rule taking, but that has nothing to do with joining the EU.

Why would US tariffs push us into a closer trading arrangement with the EU? UK exports to the US in terms of goods are fairly specialised - things like Scotch whisky. Trump put tariffs on Scotch before (only malts afaicr) and it wasn't great, but didn’t lead to a widespread reorientation of the whisky industry toward the EU or other markets, because that's not how things work.

Sean_F said:

Leon said:

Leon said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

biggles said:

MarqueeMark said:

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

But still very unpopular overall.

I’d love to have a long chat with the 13% of LibDem voters with a favourable view. I don’t understand that at all.

They liked him because he split the Tory vote in some seats the Lib Dems won.

No, Trump. 13% have a favourable view of Trump in that poll. Bonkers.

Oh that, it’s obvious, his planned policies make joining the EU inevitable.

Show your workings. 500 words maximum.

I do wonder how long it will take until people realise that will never happen again.

When will Rejoiners realise the future EU is going to be hard right?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/18/european-union-right-wing-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-commission-hard-right-parties

It will be interesting to see how lefty Remainers react to this dawning reality

Someone flagged this. I take it Remainers don’t like this awkward new fact

I think the EU would have to become a lot fiercer, to make rejoining an attractive proposition. That would mean member states ramping up military spending, and being willing both to inflict, and take, casualties in large numbers. That would mean altering the mindset of decades.

Andy_JS said:

"Nigel Farage holds highest favourability rating in Ipsos poll, but almost half hold unfavourable opinion of Reform UK leader"

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/nigel-farage-holds-highest-favourability-rating-ipsos-poll-almost-half-hold-unfavourable-opinion

Trump more popular with younger British voters than older ones.

18-34: Fav 28%, Unfav 48%
35-54: Fav 28%, Unfav 53%
55+: Fav 20%, Unfav 69%

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

Finland has always seemed a bit pointless and “extra”. I mean: Iceland is proper fun. Denmark is near and has Lego. Norway is genuinely Nordic - it’s in the name - and Sweden has meatballs, IKEA and ABBA. All good

But what’s the point of Finland? Just an extra sticky-out bit that exhausts the theme, like that sixth season of House where it all went wrong

Just call it something else. Like, I dunno, “Russia”. Sorted

You’ve either never been to Finland or, much more likely, since it’s your usual modus operandi, just jetted in and out without learning anything whatsoever.

I’ve not only been to Finland (four times) I’ve done the “sauna in the snowbound forest at midnight then dive in the icebound lake where we’ve just
chopped a hole” rigmarole

Felt like a god, afterwards. Ended up in bed with the PR girl, too

Ah, memories

Then your abject ignorance is all the more remarkable.

It really is an achievement to be visiting so many parts of the world, meeting your contact at the airport and then becoming drunk in some hotel bubble by lunchtime every day, and returning just a few days later having learned almost nothing about all the places you have been, apart from what you have managed to scrape on your laptop from Wikipedia.

Casino_Royale said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

UK consumer confidence has fallen this month, as households grow gloomier about their financial prospects.

The latest poll of consumer sentiment, just released by data firm S&P Global, shows that households reported that their current finances continued to deteriorate in November, while pessimism about the financial outlooks for the year ahead has risen.

Households across the UK reported further pressure on their everyday spending, which ate into the amount of cash they had available to spend. It has fallen again this month, at a faster rate than in October.

Debt levels rose in November for the first time in three months, the survey found.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2024/nov/18/british-households-disappointing-rise-energy-price-cap-january-cornwall-insight-business-live

I don't think Sunak waiting until would have helped him.

Why? He wouldn't have spent 3 months talking down Britain and then delivering a quasi-socialist budget.

Leon said:

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

Finland has always seemed a bit pointless and “extra”. I mean: Iceland is proper fun. Denmark is near and has Lego. Norway is genuinely Nordic - it’s in the name - and Sweden has meatballs, IKEA and ABBA. All good

But what’s the point of Finland? Just an extra sticky-out bit that exhausts the theme, like that sixth season of House where it all went wrong

Just call it something else. Like, I dunno, “Russia”. Sorted

You’ve either never been to Finland or, much more likely, since it’s your usual modus operandi, just jetted in and out without learning anything whatsoever.

I’ve not only been to Finland (four times) I’ve done the “sauna in the snowbound forest at midnight then dive in the icebound lake where we’ve just
chopped a hole” rigmarole

Felt like a god, afterwards. Ended up in bed with the PR girl, too

Ah, memories

Then your abject ignorance is all the more remarkable.

It really is an achievement to be visiting so many parts of the world, meeting your contact at the airport and then becoming drunk in some hotel bubble by lunchtime every day, and returning just a few days later having learned almost nothing about all the places you have been, apart from what you have managed to scrape on your laptop from Wikipedia.

And yet, inexplicably, I am professionally paid to write about my travel experiences - indeed I am paid to HAVE these travel experiences, and then thousands of people happily pay to read about
them

Whereas you, sadly, have to pay to travel and no one cares what you do when you’re abroad because you’re a weird friendless idiot

I know this drives you nuts and that only adds to my pleasure. Sorry

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

IanB2 said:

Leon said:

Finland has always seemed a bit pointless and “extra”. I mean: Iceland is proper fun. Denmark is near and has Lego. Norway is genuinely Nordic - it’s in the name - and Sweden has meatballs, IKEA and ABBA. All good

But what’s the point of Finland? Just an extra sticky-out bit that exhausts the theme, like that sixth season of House where it all went wrong

Just call it something else. Like, I dunno, “Russia”. Sorted

You’ve either never been to Finland or, much more likely, since it’s your usual modus operandi, just jetted in and out without learning anything whatsoever.

I’ve not only been to Finland (four times) I’ve done the “sauna in the snowbound forest at midnight then dive in the icebound lake where we’ve just
chopped a hole” rigmarole

Felt like a god, afterwards. Ended up in bed with the PR girl, too

Ah, memories

Then your abject ignorance is all the more remarkable.

It really is an achievement to be visiting so many parts of the world, meeting your contact at the airport and then becoming drunk in some hotel bubble by lunchtime every day, and returning just a few days later having learned almost nothing about all the places you have been, apart from what you have managed to scrape on your laptop from Wikipedia.

And yet, weirdly, I am professionally paid to write about my travel experiences - indeed I am paid to HAVE these travel experiences, and then thousands of people happily pay to read about
them

Whereas you, sadly, have to pay to travel and no one cares what you do when you’re abroad because you’re a weird friendless idiot

I know this drives you nuts and that only adds to my pleasure. Sorry

I’m happy and able to afford my time spent travelling.

That I am able to return from Finland, with an appreciation of its culture and history and fully understanding why it would never consent to being renamed ‘Russia’, while you travel for nothing and come back with precisely your money’s worth, in terms of understanding and knowledge, says it all.