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Jesus would be pro gay marriage.

I mean, he had two Dads, and hung around with 12 guys.

Maybe Jesus will get his PFI after all !

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Reckless likely to lose Rochester next May, say bookies. http://ow.ly/EViA5

How would Jesus view the England one day cricket team?

Send the buggers straight to hell.

Are we allowed to make religiously non-PC comments / inuendos?

(I was thinking of something about Mohammed and non-death penalties)

Patrick said:

Are we allowed to make religiously non-PC comments / inuendos?

(I was thinking of something about Mohammed and non-death penalties)

Qu'ran 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

The old testament/tanakh has a good long list of actions punishable by death too:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Actions_punishable_by_death_in_the_Old_Testament

TheScreamingEagles said:

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Reckless likely to lose Rochester next May, say bookies. http://ow.ly/EViA5

Tragic.

Polling jumps the shark?

Deuteronomy 13:16

And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

Qu'ran 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Lol no wonder the Middle East is in trouble with those nutjob verses being the foundations of two of the big religions there.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Jesus would be pro gay marriage.

I mean, he had two Dads, and hung around with 12 guys.

There was a lot of talk about him and John the Baptist, I believe.

Kind of strange for me to consider as an atheist but my impression of the basic principles of Christianity would have led me to believe that JC would have been strongly anti - death penalty, pro-immigration, pro gay - marriage and utterly bewildered by strange fire breathing metal monsters and discussions about their ownership.

What are the odds on england losing by over 100 runs? anyone know how to back that?

FPT

Jonathan said:

Moses_ said:

What you actually describe are services paid for out of taxation. The taxation comes from the private sector. It also comes from taxation from the public sector which is initially money raised in taxation by the private sector and paid to public servants to run the services you have quoted. Please remember the government has no money of its own it has raised tax revenue, borrowings and assets that were paid for via previous taxation on the workforce and other entities of one sort or another.

Why is this so hard for the left to understand its O level economics FFS. Is it any wonder that Labour left us in the mess they did.

And the private sector could not make the profits without the public sector services it relies on.

It's a classic chicken and egg. Both sectors depend on each other. Both create wealth. It's madness to pretend otherwise.

Agreed

I did not say we don't need them only where the money comes from

Scrapheap_as_was said:

What are the odds on england losing by over 100 runs? anyone know how to back that?

You could use the betfair market on total England runs as a proxy

http://www.betfair.com/exchange/cricket/event?id=27279570&exp=e

ThomasNashe,

"There was a lot of talk about him and John the Baptist, I believe."

Not in the Bible. They only met once - on the banks of the Jordan. I think you might be confusing it with recent paperback fiction. Easy mistake to make if you're never read the Bible, though.

Unless, of course, you're making a point about their theological relationship.

Isn't this the thread for Christmas Day?

What would Jesus ("In my Father's house are many mansions.") think of the Mansion Tax?

taffys said:

He had the Ascension option as well.

And healing the sick for free. Wonder what he would think of the NHS on that basis. How much art thou paying a GP???

"The worker is worthy of his wages"

As quoted by Luke 10:7

Expect Kippers to go all Myleene Klass on Catherine Tate

MarkHopkins said:

Pulpstar said:

Deuteronomy 13:16

And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

Qu'ran 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Lol no wonder the Middle East is in trouble with those nutjob verses being the foundations of two of the big religions there.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16

And The Sun

Big John 14.31

TheScreamingEagles said:

How would Jesus view AV or FPTP?

"Let him that wishes to elect an assembly use the formula known as PR-squared" Crosby I, 12:13

TheScreamingEagles said:

This has to be the weirdest set of polling since YouGov polled me last summer, for I assume was private polling, some of the questions on the party leaders were a little bit erm

For example, if Dave, Nick, Ed and Nigel were an animal, what kind of animal would they be/if they were a car, what kind of car would they be.

Also asked what kind of breed of dog they would be.

and your answers...?

Dave: Cat. - Pretends to be affectionate when it wants something
Ed: Least Weasel*
Nick: Domesticated Mouse - bites randomly

Dave: Merc - reliable, but somehow unlovable. Heavy steering, drifts to the right
Ed: Landwind X7**
Nick: Peugeot Clio. Really, what is the point?

Dave: Labrador (yellow) - nice, well-meaning, but lazy and ineffectual;
Ed: Jack Russell - yappy and irritating, gets pushed around by the bigger dogs
Nick: Pomchi - they really exist, but no one knows what for***

* "the tiny beast appears more like a parasite than a predator as it latches onto the neck of its larger prey items and drains blood from the jugular vein" http://listverse.com/2013/06/27/10-most-downright-ferocious-or-ill-tempered-animals/

** http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846676/Fury-China-unveils-14-000-copy-Range-Rover-British-company-legal-action-little-known-manufacturer-launches-brazen-copy-roader.html

*** http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pomchi.htm

67% of pub owners think Jesus should be charged alcohol duty when turning water into wine.




(daft thread)

Charles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

This has to be the weirdest set of polling since YouGov polled me last summer, for I assume was private polling, some of the questions on the party leaders were a little bit erm

For example, if Dave, Nick, Ed and Nigel were an animal, what kind of animal would they be/if they were a car, what kind of car would they be.

Also asked what kind of breed of dog they would be.

and your answers...?

Dave: Cat. - Pretends to be affectionate when it wants something
Ed: Least Weasel*
Nick: Domesticated Mouse - bites randomly

Dave: Merc - reliable, but somehow unlovable. Heavy steering, drifts to the right
Ed: Landwind X7**
Nick: Peugeot Clio. Really, what is the point?

Dave: Labrador (yellow) - nice, well-meaning, but lazy and ineffectual;
Ed: Jack Russell - yappy and irritating, gets pushed around by the bigger dogs
Nick: Pomchi - they really exist, but no one knows what for***

* "the tiny beast appears more like a parasite than a predator as it latches onto the neck of its larger prey items and drains blood from the jugular vein" http://listverse.com/2013/06/27/10-most-downright-ferocious-or-ill-tempered-animals/

** http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846676/Fury-China-unveils-14-000-copy-Range-Rover-British-company-legal-action-little-known-manufacturer-launches-brazen-copy-roader.html

*** http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pomchi.htm

For the cars I think I said

Dave is a Maserati (vastly overrated, but better than most of what is out there)

Nick Clegg was a BMW 1 Series (you had high hopes, but is not as good as you hoped, anyone who has ever been in a 1 series, will tell you, they are designed for midgets)

Ed Miliband was a SmartCar, you see them, and think why? WHY? WHY?

Nigel Farage was I think a Ford XR3i (which by the way something my dad drove in the 80s, a white one, replete with a white spoiler)

Jesus saves, with these current interest rates? Who is he kidding.

Jesus saves but Agurero gets the rebound.

Would the devil approve of UKIP?

I think Jesus would hand over most current politicians to the Romans

Personally I cannot understand how some people on the right of politics can be christians, given some of their views.

hucks67 said:

I think Jesus would hand over most current politicians to the Romans

Personally I cannot understand how some people on the right of politics can be christians, given some of their views.

Then you don't understand the Parable of the Talents, the Parable of the Prodigal Son or the Parable of the Watchful Servants or the Parable of the Good Samaritan.

And that's just for starters.

Charles said:

hucks67 said:

I think Jesus would hand over most current politicians to the Romans

Personally I cannot understand how some people on the right of politics can be christians, given some of their views.

Then you don't understand the Parable of the Talents, the Parable of the Prodigal Son or the Parable of the Watchful Servants or the Parable of the Good Samaritan.

And that's just for starters.

Not to mention that Jesus was none too keen on self-righteous Pharisees, though I'm sure any similarity with past or present Labour politicians is purely coincidental.

All those who praise multiculturism should reflect that if this thread was on another religion, it would be closed down amid a storm of protests and fatwas .

With apologies to Monty Python fans:

There are Greens in the world there are Kippers
There are Labour and Tories, and then
There are those that follow Alex Salmond, but
I've never been one of them

I'm a Liberal Democrat
And have been since before I was born
And the one thing they say about LibDems is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm

You don't have to be a six-footer
You don't have to have a great brain
You don't have to have any clothes on you're
A LibDem the moment Paddy came

Because every vote is sacred
Every vote is great
If a vote is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every vote is sacred
Every vote is great
If a vote is wasted
God gets quite irate

Let the Greenies spoil theirs
On the dusty ground
God shall make them pay for
Each vote that can't be found

Every vote is wanted
Every vote is good
Every vote is needed
In your neighborhood

Labour, Tory, SNP
Spoil theirs just anywhere
But God loves those who treat their
Ballots with more care

Every vote is sacred
Every vote is great
If a vote is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every vote is sacred
Every vote is good
Every vote is needed
In your neighborhood

Every vote is useful
Every vote is fine
God needs everybody's
Mine and mine and mine

Let the Kippers spoil theirs
Over mountain, hill, and plain
God shall strike them down for
Each vote that's spoilt in vain

Every vote is sacred
Every vote is good
Every vote is needed
In your neighborhood

Every vote is sacred
Every vote is great
If a vote is wasted
God gets quite irate

madasafish said:

All those who praise multiculturism should reflect that if this thread was on another religion, it would be closed down amid a storm of protests and fatwas .

Thin-wa on you!

TGOHF said:

Cyclefree said:

Jonathan said:

Seriously.

If you had spent the night travelling through Judea on a rail replacement donkey service, you too would support re-nationalisation.

Given that He walked on water, I doubt that He would stand around waiting for a replacement anything. He had the Ascension option as well.

Hmm - not sure Kippers would approve of middle eastern types who could walk on water - as they could easily avoid using patrolled ports to enter from Sangatte.

but they allow immigrants in on a points basis I believe- and how many points does being able to walk on water get you? loads I would have thought!!

TGOHF said:

state_go_away said:

TGOHF said:

Cyclefree said:

Jonathan said:

Seriously.

If you had spent the night travelling through Judea on a rail replacement donkey service, you too would support re-nationalisation.

Given that He walked on water, I doubt that He would stand around waiting for a replacement anything. He had the Ascension option as well.

Hmm - not sure Kippers would approve of middle eastern types who could walk on water - as they could easily avoid using patrolled ports to enter from Sangatte.

but they allow immigrants in on a points basis I believe- and how many points does being able to walk on water get you? loads I would have thought!!

you know "Points based" is code for "how white are you ?"

Probably have a British passport anyway as anyone civilised knows that the Son of God must be an Englishman and probably from Yorkshire

TGOHF said:

Cyclefree said:

Jonathan said:

Seriously.

If you had spent the night travelling through Judea on a rail replacement donkey service, you too would support re-nationalisation.

Given that He walked on water, I doubt that He would stand around waiting for a replacement anything. He had the Ascension option as well.

Hmm - not sure Kippers would approve of middle eastern types who could walk on water - as they could easily avoid using patrolled ports to enter from Sangatte.

And clearly being a very bad geography student, thinking that they'd come to England to rebuild Jerusalem.

What would Jesus think of a weaponised NHS?

(Other than that it will probably soon require a visit from one Ed Miliband, for self inflicted wounds to his feet, naturally....)

speaking of Fantasists, I have just watched 'The secret life of Walter Mitty' - What a great little film, would love to go to Greenland and Iceland after watching that!!

TGOHF said:

Boost for BOO campaign (and it needs one) - strangely the Telegraph assumes it will be DC who has to pick up the bill - what happens if Ed is PM ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11255493/UK-faces-34bn-bill-for-blackhole-in-EU-budget.html

"Auditors have identified a blackhole in European Union budgets that could lead to extra demands for cash from the British taxpayer of up to £34billion over the next six years.

David Cameron will be legally obliged to make up a share of a shortfall of £259billion by 2020 with liabilities for the Treasury estimated at £33.7bn, calculated at the usual rate of Britain’s EU contributions.

The hole in EU spending has been identified by the European Court of Auditor"

Is that before or after the rebate?

state_go_away said:

speaking of Fantasists, I have just watched 'The secret life of Walter Mitty' - What a great little film, would love to go to Greenland and Iceland after watching that!!

The Good Lady Wifi is taking me to Iceland shortly, to hopefully see the Northern Lights.

And - voodoo dolls at the ready - the set of Game of Thrones.

That said, Al Darling managed to lose HALF a trillion POUNDS down the back of the sofa between Statements to the House, so I'm sure the Europhiles will tell us we can just take it in our stride......

TGOHF said:

RobD said:

Sorry, they've just identified a third of a trillion euro black hole in the EU budget.


What?!?

They haven't spent it yet ...

"In a special report earlier this week, EU auditors identified the sum in outstanding bills for legally binding spending commitments made by the European Commission over the last four years.
“Assuming that commitments will not be de-committed, and we don’t see how most of them could, it might be problematic to get this money from member states to finance the expenditure foreseen,” Igor Ludborzs, an EU auditor, told the Euractiv website."

Well, things in a budget tend not to be It just shows how they can't add up, which is extremely worrying.

TGOHF said:

Boost for BOO campaign (and it needs one) - strangely the Telegraph assumes it will be DC who has to pick up the bill - what happens if Ed is PM ?
"Auditors have identified a blackhole in European Union budgets that could lead to extra demands for cash from the British taxpayer of up to £34billion over the next six years. ...obliged to make up a share of a shortfall of £259billion by 2020 with liabilities for the Treasury estimated at £33.7bn, calculated at the usual rate of Britain’s EU contributions....."

No problem if EdM is PM . His socialist party believes in the Magic Money Tree and that all govt spending will just boost all the economies (see FPT). So socialist logic is that they need to spend more and anyway last time in Govt they lost half of the rebate in return for the display of someone's ankle so next time in Govt the socialists will end the rebate and pay £67bn in return for a smile from Merkel or a handshake from Hollande.... What could go wrong with this socialist thinking?

Good afternoon, everyone.

The EU remains rubbish, I see.