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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382
    boulay said:

    Foxy said:

    boulay said:

    FF43 said:

    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.

    Are you fucking kidding me - the French song was like every other overwrought dull french song on French radio. Ours was shit but at least it wasn’t a cliché.
    The French guy is an established star, but also as the only Muslim singer may be getting political benefit.
    Silly me, I thought it was a “song contest”.
    He is an established star!

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833
    8 from Sweden now we're on 46 points
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Andy_JS said:

    Funny how UK gets points from the likes of Iceland, Ireland, Switzerland, Australia, all countries we've had some sort of association with over the years.

    Ireland and Australia are culturally similar to Britain. Look at the charts for the past several decades. Dunno about Iceland and Switzerland but singing in English probably helps.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449
    UK finishes on the left hand side of the board
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833
    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Who gave points to Estonia? Just noticed they're on 4 now.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    I suspect the public vote for Switzerland will be quite chunky.

    That's my hostage to fortune....
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,022

    Jess Phillips MP
    @jessphillips
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    All the songs sound the same. I am old so it's all just noise to me
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382

    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210

    I think max public vote is 380, so Switzerland is too far ahead.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Rest of the world vote? What the dickens is that all about.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043


    Jess Phillips MP
    @jessphillips
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    All the songs sound the same. I am old so it's all just noise to me

    It's about the staging. You can't do Eurovision on the radio.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382

    UK finishes on the left hand side of the board

    It isn't finished!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Public votes are leaking as the odds are rapidly moving on Betfair
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637


    Jess Phillips MP
    @jessphillips
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    All the songs sound the same. I am old so it's all just noise to me

    I agree about the songs, but not that she's old.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,607
    Foxy said:

    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210

    I think max public vote is 380, so Switzerland is too far ahead.
    Surely the number of votes available from the phone poll is the same as the jury vote?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    Andy_JS said:

    Funny how UK gets points from the likes of Iceland, Ireland, Switzerland, Australia, all countries we've had some sort of association with over the years.

    And bugger all points from the countries we've had to save from themselves. France, Germany....
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,326
    Foxy said:

    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210

    I think max public vote is 380, so Switzerland is too far ahead.
    I hope if Switzerland win they do the next event on the lake at Montreux in honour of Queen. Amazing backdrop for music fests in personal experience.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449
    edited May 11
    Foxy said:

    UK finishes on the left hand side of the board

    It isn't finished!
    You knew what I meant!
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Croatia back as favourites and quite short.

    Croatia 1.5
    Switzerland 2.9
    Ireland 22
    Israel 34
    France any price you like.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    16 is the new nil points....
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Why are Croatia still favourites on Betfair Exchange?
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Foxy said:

    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210

    I think max public vote is 380, so Switzerland is too far ahead.
    Check that because if you are right Switzerland can be backed at 3 (or 2/1).
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    0 points - lol!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Zero points from the audiences?
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,026
    edited May 11

    Public votes are leaking as the odds are rapidly moving on Betfair

    This is definitely a market where you are at risk of being low in information compared to ... some ...
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,665
    Fuck
    All
    Points
    Lolol
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Zero point for public votes for the UK
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,950
    boulay said:

    FF43 said:

    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.

    Are you fucking kidding me - the French song was like every other overwrought dull french song on French radio. Ours was shit but at least it wasn’t a cliché.
    And are you fucking kidding me? Just about all the other contributions were clichés too. At least the French entry was a song as I said, which might be an advantage for a song contest. Not a particularly good song or well sung by any other standards than Eurovision and there we go.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833
    UK get zero points in the televote
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Ridiculous number for Israel
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 16,005
    Wow.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,607
    I think Israel will have won the phone vote with that number.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Isreal is trending on Twix. Not sure if that is a political misspelling.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,022
    Israel out to 1000
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486

    I think Israel will have won the phone vote with that number.

    I have a Jewish friend who voted multiple times. At significant cost.

    Can't imagine he'd be the only one.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449
    Switzerland must have won. Israel has eaten up too much of the public vote.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    How does the UK get it so wrong in star/song selection...time after time???
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833
    Ukraine leading?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Israel cannot win.

    Punters wifes happy worldwide.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,686

    I think Israel will have won the phone vote with that number.

    Yes easily.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Betfair is now a 2-horse race. Most countries have now been laid off the boards.

    Croatia & Switzerland are bouncing around 2 (or even money).
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382
    Croatia top public vote.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,607
    I think Croatia has won.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449

    Switzerland must have won. Israel has eaten up too much of the public vote.

    Or not!
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Punters think it is all over. Swiss go 1.05. Hope Foxy got on.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449
    Switzerland need about 180. Surely they’ll get that….?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Market says Switzerland 🇨🇭
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Switzerland wins.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833
    Swiss win it!!
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,309
    Well done Switzerland!

    First time since 1956??
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    How does this information leak out? Mindboggling.
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    eekeek Posts: 25,472
    Andy_JS said:

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    How does this information leak out? Mindboggling.
    It becomes a matter of maths once you get to the final three countries...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,022
    Andy_JS said:

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    How does this information leak out? Mindboggling.
    Is this to do with time of broadcast/internet tv delay??

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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,326
    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,928

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    Leaked, no. Mathematically a set number of points left to award, just need to be quite nippy to work it out.
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    nico679nico679 Posts: 5,234
    Thank heavens . Well done Switzerland.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,665
    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    We got massively out-gayed by Switzerland.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    edited May 11
    Switzerland has won twice before: the first contest in 1956, and 1988 with Celine Dion.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314
    Andy_JS said:

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    How does this information leak out? Mindboggling.
    Well, there seems to be about a 10 second satellite delay ....
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382
    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    In the public vote.

    Eurovision is gay friendly but prefers camp to cottaging.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,314

    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    We got massively out-gayed by Switzerland.
    Gay is fine in Eurovisionland. Gay sex? Not so much....
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,587
    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    We didn't get zero, we got 46 points (even if they all came from the juries not the public).

    Norway came last too, not the UK
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,761
    edited May 11
    ...Brexit rocks! Nul points. B@st@rds
    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    A demonstration, if it were needed, that voting Leave was a wise choice.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,326
    edited May 11
    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    boulay said:

    Are we the only country to get zero? Fuck me.

    We are just going to have to retaliate by banning these foreign jonnies from listening to the Beatles, the stones, led zep, dua lipa, Queen, Elton John, the cure, the cult, and of course Rick Astley until they sort out their music tastes.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,833

    Well done Switzerland!

    First time since 1956??

    1988 - Celine!
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,886
    We'll never know if The Netherlands would have won!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    edited May 11
    Some parts of this winning song remind me slightly of Pray by MC Hammer from 1990/91.
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    EabhalEabhal Posts: 6,415
    edited May 11

    UK voted for Israel.

    So fuck off BDS PSC Momentum Green Party etc

    Hmm. Flashbacks to the Welsh 20mph petition.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,686
    I think I'm pretty happy with that result. A reasonably decent song actually won (bad my wife is pretty happy too lol) and Israel got huge public vote backing. Also my instincts that our song would do poorly with audiences was correct with that big fat zero with the public vote, Switzerland did the gay message properly and had someone who can actually sing.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,511
    MaxPB said:

    I think I'm pretty happy with that result. A reasonably decent song actually won (bad my wife is pretty happy too lol) and Israel got huge public vote backing. Also my instincts that our song would do poorly with audiences was correct with that big fat zero with the public vote, Switzerland did the gay message properly and had someone who can actually sing.

    There was a time when Eurovision could be a family viewing event - not sure what has happened
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked
    Andy_JS said:

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    How does this information leak out? Mindboggling.
    Always does with Eurovision

    It's terrible
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,309

    Well done Switzerland!

    First time since 1956??

    1988 - Celine!
    Ok I was only 32:years out 👍
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 59,022
    Anyone who uses the lyric "my heart beats like a drum" should be ruled out of the competition immediately
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 25,043
    Now Eurovision is over, remember to glance out the window in case the pretty skies are back.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,552

    UK voted for Israel.

    So fuck off BDS PSC Momentum Green Party etc

    A lot of Yookers willing to dial up to twenty times it would appear, a fairly weirdo heavy subset I’d suggest.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,642
    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,449

    Now Eurovision is over, remember to glance out the window in case the pretty skies are back.

    Nothing here
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,101

    UK finishes on the left hand side of the board

    Your board is fucked
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,026

    Now Eurovision is over, remember to glance out the window in case the pretty skies are back.

    There are reports coming in, so worth a look.

    Bit cloudy here but there might be something. Off to get a camera.


    And ... time for the best music of the night. Charpentier.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,486
    Pro_Rata said:

    1.01 for Switzerland so its already leaked

    Leaked, no. Mathematically a set number of points left to award, just need to be quite nippy to work it out.
    Perhaps. But I also think it leaks.
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,886
    kinabalu said:

    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.

    We've had terrible votes since Iraq (except for Sam Ryder of course)
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    The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 415

    Foxy said:

    Swiss = 365 points
    France = 218
    Croatia = 210

    I think max public vote is 380, so Switzerland is too far ahead.
    Check that because if you are right Switzerland can be backed at 3 (or 2/1).
    Did that so thanks, guys. Great when this site does betting.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,101

    UK voted for Israel.

    So fuck off BDS PSC Momentum Green Party etc

    Despite your multiple votes Genociders lost.

    Worst result since Corbyn in 2019!
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    RattersRatters Posts: 862
    A bit embarrassing for a very established UK artist, admittedly with a poor song that was performed to appeal to a specific niche of the London gay scene.

    If you don't believe me, one of his songs (under his 'band' name) has over 600m listens on Spotify.
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    GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,021
    kinabalu said:

    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.

    It was too generic. It feels like the Beeb went for something that Euro audiences would like but it just blended in to the background.

    The other issue I would say is expat votes. Brits in Europe tend to be elderly retirees who are less likely to watch Eurovision.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,382

    Now Eurovision is over, remember to glance out the window in case the pretty skies are back.

    There are reports coming in, so worth a look.

    Bit cloudy here but there might be something. Off to get a camera.


    And ... time for the best music of the night. Charpentier.
    My brother got this photo last night in Cambs.


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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,637
    Sod's Law that I was staying in London yesterday when the Northern Lights were visible elsewhere.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,686

    kinabalu said:

    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.

    It was too generic. It feels like the Beeb went for something that Euro audiences would like but it just blended in to the background.

    The other issue I would say is expat votes. Brits in Europe tend to be elderly retirees who are less likely to watch Eurovision.
    I think it's the opposite, if it was merely bland it would have got 50-60 audience points. The stage show was actively off putting for audiences, people don't want to see a bunch of blokes grinding up against each other in a recreation of a men's room you might find in Soho.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,511
    MaxPB said:

    kinabalu said:

    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.

    The song was crap, the artist couldn't sing and the stage was a recreation of a men's room at a bar in Soho in the 90s. It was never going to do well, zero is what it deserved. We're lucky that the juries took sympathy on the UK this time or it could have been 0 overall.
    deserved to score zero- supposed family friendly viewing does not feature toilets - maybe the message is you can be gay but its a song contest not a soft porn contest
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    GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,021

    UK voted for Israel.

    So fuck off BDS PSC Momentum Green Party etc

    Despite your multiple votes Genociders lost.

    Worst result since Corbyn in 2019!
    I bet on Israel but then regretted it. The issue was that music industry jury voters are more likely to be left wing, which limited the points Israel would get there.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,511
    MaxPB said:

    kinabalu said:

    That's quite something for us to score ZERO on the weighted total worldwide public vote. Message there. Just a crap song doesn't explain that.

    It was too generic. It feels like the Beeb went for something that Euro audiences would like but it just blended in to the background.

    The other issue I would say is expat votes. Brits in Europe tend to be elderly retirees who are less likely to watch Eurovision.
    I think it's the opposite, if it was merely bland it would have got 50-60 audience points. The stage show was actively off putting for audiences, people don't want to see a bunch of blokes grinding up against each other in a recreation of a men's room you might find in Soho.
    complete embarrassment for the UK it was .
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,642
    boulay said:

    I’m taking comfort that the UK televote gave most votes to Israel. The telaviv vote as it should be renamed.

    But if Palestine had an entry that would probably have won the public vote (inc in the UK).
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    DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 731
    DM_Andy said:

    Olly said:

    Leon said:

    I'd take issue with saying the 'history never repeats' - I though the saying was that "history repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second as farce".

    See the middle east right now. History repeating on an endless loop of intolerance and bloodshed.

    If only it was a farce. Its so bleak I can’t bear to think about it

    The best way of summarising the Israel/arab thing is Larkin’s line: man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf

    It’s like the Holocaust inflicted such terrible trauma on the jews of Israel they are subconsciously forced to reiterate it endlessly, cf victims of abuse who often become abusers - or extremely kinky (which is much healthier)

    Meanwhile the Palestinians are locked in their own psychohistorical nightmare, somehow and sometimes revelling in their own martyrdom, masochistically - in between bursts of brutal violence against the Jews

    The only sane response to this awful and sordid spectacle is to look away. I sometimes wonder what might happen if everyone did ignore them
    The holocaust is 80 years ago now. For most young people its ancient history. Many dont even believe it happened.
    Powerful words here.
    Rafah is completely blocked, israel won’t allow anything to enter, no humanitarian aid, no doctors, no help. Yet the idf are bombing us right now. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO 💔NOWHERE WE CAN GO 💔

    @WizardBisan1
    #EyesOnRafah

    https://x.com/SemiticRia/status/1787640134008975631
    It doesn’t seem relevant perhaps, but I wonder how many votes Israel’s entry in the Eurovision Song Contest will get.
    The Israeli entry is very strong musically and it's not really possible to vote against an entry in the Song Contest so I feel like somewhere it'll comfortably qualify for the final and then finish between 6th and 10th place. Maybe if the IPBC had sent the same singer with a song of reconciliation like 2009 it might have even won.
    It finished 5th but I'm still claiming it as a hit.
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