Happy birthday! I’ve been reading the site in one form or another most of those 20 years. I think the first article I read was around US presidential nominees and how many Americans would not vote for an atheist.
I dread to think how many hours I've spent on PB over the years, but that is a measure of how good the site is, and the community it has gathered together above and below the line.
Building a community with the feeling of a virtual 'pub' was an incredible achievement, and maintaining the same ethos throughout the rise of social media has been an even bigger one. Thanks Mike.
So sorry to hear about your deteriorating health Mike. Thank you for all you've done in founding the site and keeping it going, and for its posters over 20 years, which have included me for a slightly alarming 17 of them.
Oh, my word. Well it had to happen sometime but no less surprising for that. Good luck for the time remaining to you @MikeSmithson , and I hope that the next 20 years match your standard.
All the best, Mike. An impressive milestone to bow out on and thanks again for all the enjoyment your posts have brought and the, er, lively debate they have generated.
The site has been always been informative, funny, weird, strange and a life saver at times and is always my go-to each day as if something important is happening (not Leon’s holidays) the chances are you will hear about it on this site before any news site.
So sorry to hear of your poor health. Thank so much for this wonderful site which I look at every day. We only met once (at Dirty Dicks) but I much appreciate your work. Best wishes.
Happy Birthday to political betting and I’m so sorry about your health @MikeSmithson and to hear of your retirement from the site you founded and ran for so many years.
This is a brilliant site which is mostly partisan-free. How rare is that online these days?
Just to add to the thanks. I find this site much more informative, and interesting, than any other single source to discover what's going on in this world, and indeed sometimes other worlds. A great resource.
Happy Birthday to PB. It has been a joy to be lurking around here for ~16 of those 20 years.
Wishing you all the best with your health, and I hope you know what an amazing thing you created, and that TSE and Robert are continuing in its unique spirit.
All the best Mike and many, many thanks for creating and running this site. It has given me countless hours of pleasure and distraction through some dark times in my own life.
Hopefully we can all still behave without your guiding OGH presence!!
Best wishes Mike, and happy birthday to PB. Thanks to everyone who comments, and especially those behind the scenes who keep everything functioning. And of course thanks to Mike, for creating it and keeping it running for so long.
Building a community with the feeling of a virtual 'pub' was an incredible achievement, and maintaining the same ethos throughout the rise of social media has been an even bigger one. Thanks Mike.
I’m newer to this site than many but I couldn’t agree more. It remains a virtual pub.
PB is full of dangerously unhinged lunatics, also know as political anoraks, an OBE at the least is surely warranted for building an effective trap to keep such people contained from the good people of the internet.
I'm immensely appreciative for the forum you have provided over the many years, Mike, and go back as a reader to 2007 even though I only joined a few years later.
Wishing you all the best in retirement.
(I won't even hold against you that I have just been de-threaded - AGAIN, by this announcement. PB should clearly have been started one day earlier. My "get the last post" skills seem to be better than my "get the first comment" skills at present.)
I remember that in my first ever post I put forward the term Gideonomics.
Whatever happened to him?
Sir Gideon of Gosborne transferred to environs-of-Salisbury with a private vineyard in the garden, and several hundred thousand of cancelled-for-COVID-stamp-duty-holiday taxes in his pocket iirc .
I still remember my email/user account from QMW, over thirty years ago. es2062 . My initials are not 'es', so I always assumed they stood for 'engineering student'.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
Sad to hear the news about your health but as one of the "old guard" on here, it's been a pleasure to be a small part of PB and thinking back to the very early days before the 2005 election, the site and the world were very different places.
Thank you for having the inspiration to take this on and take it forward - the BBQ on the terrace of the National Liberal Club a real highlight. Gladstone was perhaps yet again the hope of the "stern unbending (PB)Tories" that evening.
I still remember my email/user account from QMW, over thirty years ago. es2062 . My initials are not 'es', so I always assumed they stood for 'engineering student'.
My wife used to have a log in id "Member of Staff".
PB is full of dangerously unhinged lunatics, also know as political anoraks, an OBE at the least is surely warranted for building an effective trap to keep such people contained from the good people of the internet.
Just to add to the thanks. I find this site much more informative, and interesting, than any other single source to discover what's going on in this world, and indeed sometimes other worlds. A great resource.
One of tge things I like about this site is that any story is instantly fact checked by an army of intelligent people, sone of whom are experts. And this is done before the broadcast media even get a chance to get it wrong.
I have lurked here for most of those 20 years without ever registering,but thank you Mike for all you have done on this terrific site. Best wishes for for the future.
It is evenings like this that show the best in the PB community. And, yes, we are a community. In many cases total strangers, but we have been brought together thanks to Mike, and while we may argue from time to time, we have a commonality, an interest in politics and the way that society is run, and I like to think that if any two of us were put together on a "blind date" in a pub of cafe, we could share a very pleasant hour or two.
I have lurked here for most of those 20 years without ever registering,but thank you Mike for all you have done on this terrific site. Best wishes for for the future.
I look forward to reading your second post on the site's 40th birthday!
Thank you Mike for starting and running this remarkable forum. There are many reasons for its success but none more important than your guiding hand. We will all miss you.
Good luck in your retirement and may your health allow you to enjoy it. You deserve no less.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
It is evenings like this that show the best in the PB community. And, yes, we are a community. In many cases total strangers, but we have been brought together thanks to Mike, and while we may argue from time to time, we have a commonality, an interest in politics and the way that society is run, and I like to think that if any two of us were put together on a "blind date" in a pub of cafe, we could share a very pleasant hour or two.
Cheers Mike. The curious thing is, Guido's site was a bit like this for about 5 minutes then rapidly descended into an abyss. That PB remains an entertaining, civilised place after 20 years is a miracle for which we are all eternally grateful.
I've read PB literally most days for the last 19 years and posted fairly regularly.
I just want to say the most enormous thank you to Mike for creating and running PB which has provided so much interest and enjoyment. There's no need to ever be bored again - you can always check what's being said on PB.
That is correct: back in 1992, I got my first access to the Internet as rcs1000@phx.cam.ac.uk
From then on, rcs1000 has been my Internet id.
I can't remember my janet login from Edinburgh University library, but that would be 1990.
Mine was hcc1.
So I must have been top dog.
(Not really. Aber had a system - last number of the year for undergrads, last two numbers for postgrads, initials only for staff. As I was all of them in turn, I therefore added and subtracted numbers like a mathematician on crack.)
The trusty old Lab/LD/Green vs Con/Ref measure is 61-34 with YouGov, 59-36 with More In Common this evening and 57-37 with the latest Savanta.
More In Common has the Conservatives at 25%, their lowest rating ever. There have been eight polls since the previous More In Common, two have had the Conservatives at 26% (Savanta and Survation), all the others have been 25% or lower.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
There have been others which I can't recall, and I know that at least one other has died, so if anybody can add more names I would be grateful.
I would add Socrates to that first list. Really liked my discussions with him back in the day. Much missed. Also of course we cannot miss Tim (the original) off that list, nor the American Tims.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
There have been others which I can't recall, and I know that at least one other has died, so if anybody can add more names I would be grateful.
Great shame that @MrEd was banned. I enjoyed conversing with him and he was supportive to me during my earlier struggles with mental health. Wishing him well wherever he is.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
There have been others which I can't recall, and I know that at least one other has died, so if anybody can add more names I would be grateful.
I would add Socrates to that first list. Really liked my discussions with him back in the day. Much missed. Also of course we cannot miss Tim (the original) off that list, nor the American Tims.
Damn, yes of course. Incidentally @Andy_JS and @CarlottaVance are still AWOL, although it's been suggested the former has changed to another ID, which is plausible but I'm not convinced.
I don't remember when I first joined PB but I think it was a couple of years after it had started. It remains the only place worth visiting to get both informed opinion and often the first hint of breaking news. It has become such a part of my online life that I can't imagine the internet without it. So huge thanks to OGH for widening my horizons and introducing me to such a fascinating bunch of characters.
I'm trying to find the Guardian article I read in 2004 that mentioned political betting, and sent me here for the first time, but I can't seem to find it.
I did find this one about JackW's retirement from the site - in 2007!
I don't remember when I first joined PB but I think it was a couple of years after it had started. It remains the only place worth visiting to get both informed opinion and often the first hint of breaking news. It has become such a part of my online life that I can't imagine the internet without it. So huge thanks to OGH for widening my horizons and introducing me to such a fascinating bunch of characters.
I've enjoyed having exposure to views that I don't often get in my daily life and I have enjoyed the political compass tilting such that for a while I felt very isolated and now feel "part of the herd". I like mostly everyone here whatever their views which is probably a mark of how good this site is.
I've read PB literally most days for the last 19 years and posted fairly regularly.
I just want to say the most enormous thank you to Mike for creating and running PB which has provided so much interest and enjoyment. There's no need to ever be bored again - you can always check what's being said on PB.
Very best wishes for your retirement.
Congratulations and thanks to OGH, for sure. And to his little helpers.
Meanwhile we pedants can wonder what “literally most” actually means….
Well this is both sad and touching. Thank-you, Our Most Genial of Hosts, I hope your health somehow allows you to return, occasionally
It’s been a privilege to comment on this site these past 15, sorry 9, sorry 4, sorry 2 and a half, sorry 2 years. It really is like a pub except the locals wear terrifying masks and Hitler occasionally plays the piano
Its also kept me sane and prevented me dying of loneliness on long foreign trips - such as this one right now
Cheers to all of us, mods and commenters, anarchists and atheists, kippers and Communists, lurkers, lefties, LadyGs and lunatics, from the hot and cloudy jungles of Colombia
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
All great losses and Plato was particularly sad as it was well before her time and she just disappeared down an extreme rabbit hole - didn't get medical help when she needed it.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
There have been others which I can't recall, and I know that at least one other has died, so if anybody can add more names I would be grateful.
How do we know? I often wonder about this. It seems frankly improbable after 20 years that more of us haven't died. And in most cases, people will just occasionally think, huh, poster x hasn't posted in a while - I wonder if he's still with us? And that will be that.
Reflecting back over the years, RIP to those former posters who were a significant part of the site, but, sadly, are not with us to mark the 20 year milestone.
I remember when you were Yanis Varoufakis. Anyhoo...
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks) @isam (argued with hosts, since returned) @antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author) @Charles (argued with others), @TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere) @SeanT (left, never to return) @IshmaelZ (argued with others) @MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned) @CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
All great losses and Plato was particularly sad as it was well before her time and she just disappeared down an extreme rabbit hole - didn't get medical help when she needed it.
At least our Leon has been good enough to go down there looking for her…
Well this is both sad and touching. Thank-you, Our Most Genial of Hosts, I hope your health somehow allows you to return, occasionally
It’s been a privilege to comment on this site these past 15, sorry 9, sorry 4, sorry 2 and a half, sorry 2 years. It really is like a pub except the locals wear terrifying masks and Hitler occasionally plays the piano
Its also kept me sane and prevented me dying of loneliness on long foreign trips - such as this one right now
Cheers to all of us, mods and commenters, anarchists and atheists, kippers and Communists, lurkers, lefties, LadyGs and lunatics, from the hot and cloudy jungles of Colombia
They couldn’t come up with anything better than a wine so popular it’s in every Tesco in Britain? Is there any Colombian wine?
I don't remember when I first joined PB but I think it was a couple of years after it had started. It remains the only place worth visiting to get both informed opinion and often the first hint of breaking news. It has become such a part of my online life that I can't imagine the internet without it. So huge thanks to OGH for widening my horizons and introducing me to such a fascinating bunch of characters.
I've enjoyed having exposure to views that I don't often get in my daily life and I have enjoyed the political compass tilting such that for a while I felt very isolated and now feel "part of the herd". I like mostly everyone here whatever their views which is probably a mark of how good this site is.
I agree and also think that there are some areas where I have genuinely changed my mind as a result of informed (and occasionally ill informed ) discussion on PB. It has proved a far more reliable source of news and information than most of the mainstream press.
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ALTHOUGH rumor has it, that Smithson the Younger DOES covet that cosy-looking chair . . .
Long time ago now!
I dread to think how many hours I've spent on PB over the years, but that is a measure of how good the site is, and the community it has gathered together above and below the line.
Here's to the next 20 years.
Including ourselves.
Perhaps we should all boast of at least one great prediction we made and admit one great mistake.
Many happy returns to PB.
Whatever happened to him?
Is your son rcs1000 the software engineer?
The site has been always been informative, funny, weird, strange and a life saver at times and is always my go-to each day as if something important is happening (not Leon’s holidays) the chances are you will hear about it on this site before any news site.
This is a brilliant site which is mostly partisan-free. How rare is that online these days?
Wishing you all the best with your health, and I hope you know what an amazing thing you created, and that TSE and Robert are continuing in its unique spirit.
ETA: hang on, did I really join in 2015?!
Very best wishes for your health.
I’ve been a frequent reader if infrequent contributor but have thoroughly enjoyed it none the less.
Good luck with your health.
Let's hope for lots of houses, infrastructure, 5G masts, FTTP etc. Vital.
My warmest wishes to you OGH.
Good luck for the future
A great way to lose the support of eco-socialists.
Thank you for PB. 🧡
Hopefully we can all still behave without your guiding OGH presence!!
Congrats and thanks to OGH and the team!
Best wishes and thanks.
Wishing you all the best in retirement.
(I won't even hold against you that I have just been de-threaded - AGAIN, by this announcement. PB should clearly have been started one day earlier. My "get the last post" skills seem to be better than my "get the first comment" skills at present.)
Leon
Horse
Ishmael
Any other contenders ?
https://help.uis.cam.ac.uk/service/accounts-passwords/your-crsid
Sad to hear the news about your health but as one of the "old guard" on here, it's been a pleasure to be a small part of PB and thinking back to the very early days before the 2005 election, the site and the world were very different places.
Thank you for having the inspiration to take this on and take it forward - the BBQ on the terrace of the National Liberal Club a real highlight. Gladstone was perhaps yet again the hope of the "stern unbending (PB)Tories" that evening.
Hmmm.
Thank you for everything, and please stay well and look after yourself.
Good luck in your retirement and may your health allow you to enjoy it. You deserve no less.
From then on, rcs1000 has been my Internet id.
The shares for men put the Tories in third:
CON 17%
LAB 41%
LDM 10%
GRN 7%
RFM 19%
The Tories are saved by the shares from women, which are:
CON 21%
LAB 46%
LDM 9%
GRN 8%
RFM 12%
Left whilst still alive
@RodCrosby (Holocaust remarks)
@isam (argued with hosts, since returned)
@antifrank aka @AlistairMeeks (argued with others, now blog author)
@Charles (argued with others),
@TissuePrice (works in a big shed somewhere)
@SeanT (left, never to return)
@IshmaelZ (argued with others)
@MrEd (argued with hosts, thought to have returned)
@CorrectHorseBattery (argued with others, thought to have returned)
Left on death
@SBS (died 2009)
@PLATO (died 2017estimated)
@MARKSENIOR (died 2017)
@CALUM (died 2019)
@NICHOMAR (died 2021)
There have been others which I can't recall, and I know that at least one other has died, so if anybody can add more names I would be grateful.
I just want to say the most enormous thank you to Mike for creating and running PB which has provided so much interest and enjoyment. There's no need to ever be bored again - you can always check what's being said on PB.
Very best wishes for your retirement.
So I must have been top dog.
(Not really. Aber had a system - last number of the year for undergrads, last two numbers for postgrads, initials only for staff. As I was all of them in turn, I therefore added and subtracted numbers like a mathematician on crack.)
The trusty old Lab/LD/Green vs Con/Ref measure is 61-34 with YouGov, 59-36 with More In Common this evening and 57-37 with the latest Savanta.
More In Common has the Conservatives at 25%, their lowest rating ever. There have been eight polls since the previous More In Common, two have had the Conservatives at 26% (Savanta and Survation), all the others have been 25% or lower.
I did find this one about JackW's retirement from the site - in 2007!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/oct/24/1
Meanwhile we pedants can wonder what “literally most” actually means….
It’s been a privilege to comment on this site these past 15, sorry 9, sorry 4, sorry 2 and a half, sorry 2 years. It really is like a pub except the locals wear terrifying masks and Hitler occasionally plays the piano
Its also kept me sane and prevented me dying of loneliness on long foreign trips - such as this one right now
Cheers to all of us, mods and commenters, anarchists and atheists, kippers and Communists, lurkers, lefties, LadyGs and lunatics, from the hot and cloudy jungles of Colombia
All great losses and Plato was particularly sad as it was well before her time and she just disappeared down an extreme rabbit hole - didn't get medical help when she needed it.
I often wonder about this. It seems frankly improbable after 20 years that more of us haven't died. And in most cases, people will just occasionally think, huh, poster x hasn't posted in a while - I wonder if he's still with us? And that will be that.
Is Jack W still with us? Or Alastair Matlock?