And so to New Hampshire where one of the primaries won’t count – politicalbetting.com
And so to New Hampshire where one of the primaries won’t count – politicalbetting.com
Next Tuesday we have the WH2024 primary in New Hampshire which has traditionally been the first state to decide.
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First, like Biden2
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James Heale
@JAHeale
Gordon Brown asked by Sky on whether he will do a Cameron-style comeback: “I’m too old to be a British politician and too young to be an American politician.”13 -
Isn't there something similar going on in Nevada for the Republicans?0
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Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.0
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They are having both a primary and a caucus.ydoethur said:Isn't there something similar going on in Nevada for the Republicans?
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Lol. Nothing 'dour' about that from Gordon.rottenborough said:James Heale
@JAHeale
Gordon Brown asked by Sky on whether he will do a Cameron-style comeback: “I’m too old to be a British politician and too young to be an American politician.”2 -
Why hasn't Biden fired Austin? Is it just because he doesn't think he can get another SECDEF (Hicks?) confirmed?0
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Neidle is quickly establishing himself as a fully fledged scourge of [alleged] tax dodgers. His work on Post Office recently has also been excellent. Enough material for the first book by now I think.TheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
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Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
Equally Dan instantly saw through a whole set of landlord schemes that HMRC only issued a spotlight about after Dan’s work0 -
That's quite funny. Though in Brown's frurious deadpan I imagine you would have had to have been concentrating quite hard to realise he'd just told a joke.kinabalu said:
Lol. Nothing 'dour' about that from Gordon.rottenborough said:James Heale
@JAHeale
Gordon Brown asked by Sky on whether he will do a Cameron-style comeback: “I’m too old to be a British politician and too young to be an American politician.”0 -
"Hudson, sir! He's Hicks!"Dura_Ace said:Why hasn't Biden fired Austin? Is it just because he doesn't think he can get another SECDEF (Hicks?) confirmed?
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We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.0 -
Not bad for the gurnerrottenborough said:James Heale
@JAHeale
Gordon Brown asked by Sky on whether he will do a Cameron-style comeback: “I’m too old to be a British politician and too young to be an American politician.”
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@MikeSmithson at the end "not unaffected", surely?
Edit: either way, the betting will be affected by the vote, but it is not affected in the sense that betting is still happening.0 -
The typical fantasy regarding Douglas is a few yards beneath a bridge with concrete bootsTheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.0 -
I'm intrigued. How many bridges have you seen that wear concrete boots?eek said:
The typical fantasy regarding Douglas is a few yards beneath a bridge with concrete bootsTheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.0 -
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.1 -
I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/2 -
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.0 -
Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...1 -
Red Storm?TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/0 -
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.1 -
I'll send a note to Chief Constable Savage (OBE) to be on the look out for someone wearing loud shoes in a built up area.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.1 -
On topic, not entirely true about the Dems and NH.
You could argue that no primaries will have an effect given that Biden is the only credible candidate. To that end, NH is no different.
However, if it were a competitive race, the fact that no delegates will be apportioned as a result of the vote would probably make precious little difference. The momentum coming out of these early states still matters greatly in framing the contest and it certainly wouldn't "have no impact on who is the Democratic nominee".0 -
Free the @Stuart_Dickson One!TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/0 -
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No, he's no Russ Abbot. He's Gordon Brown.Cookie said:
That's quite funny. Though in Brown's frurious deadpan I imagine you would have had to have been concentrating quite hard to realise he'd just told a joke.kinabalu said:
Lol. Nothing 'dour' about that from Gordon.rottenborough said:James Heale
@JAHeale
Gordon Brown asked by Sky on whether he will do a Cameron-style comeback: “I’m too old to be a British politician and too young to be an American politician.”1 -
Any reason JohnO isnt posting these days ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.1 -
Was there ever a good alt-hist where NATO were the aggressors? "Red Storm Rising" and "By Dawn's Early Light" both had faked NATO attacks as the initiator, but otherwise it was always the Soviets as bad guysMalmesbury said:
Red Storm?TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/0 -
A simulation of war with Russia.TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/
Hmmm. Rishi needs a hot war.
"and the man at the back said
Everyone attack!"1 -
I'm not really seeing that. YouGov says that 22% of the electorate would be more likely to vote Tory if the small boats were stopped. Problem is that 41% of the Tories in the sample agreed so it's only 17% of non Tories including only 7% of Labour and 8% of Lib Dem in the sample, if we assume that Greens are also 8% and that more likely means definitely voting Tory makes the YouGov.LostPassword said:Looking at the detail of the YouGov poll it looks likely that if HMG could stop the small boats, then that would be the single greatest thing that would help to win back the 2019GE voters that they have lost.
But they actually have to stop the boats.
Labour drop from 47% to 44%
Conservative up from 20% to 34%
Reform drop from 10% to 1%
Lib Dems drop from 8% to 7%
Greens drop from 7% to 6%
On the same list there's "Reduce NHS Waiting Lists" this would get more Tory support from 27% of the public, including 19% of Labour voters. Again making the massive assumption that more likely to support means actually switching your vote, that would mean:
Labour drop from 47% to 38%
Conservative up from 20% to 39%
Reform drop from 10% to 3%
Lib Dems drop from 8% to 7%
Greens drop from 7% to 6%
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@RedfieldWilton
Sunak and Starmer are tied in the Blue Wall.
Which of the following do Blue Wall voters think would be the better PM for the UK? (17-18 January)
Keir Starmer 36% (+1)
Rishi Sunak 36% (-4)
Changes +/- 4 December0 -
The Soviet warplans claimed to assume a NATO surprise attack.viewcode said:
Was there ever a good alt-hist where NATO were the aggressors? "Red Storm Rising" and "By Dawn's Early Light" both had faked NATO attacks as the initiator, but otherwise it was always the Soviets as bad guysMalmesbury said:
Red Storm?TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/
Invariably, though, the "Surprise NATO attack" was assumed to have conquered not an inch of Warsaw Pact Territory and destroyed nothing. And the Warsaw pact units were all assumed to be at maximum readiness. And raring to go, on the border....3 -
Operation Smörgåsbord.TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/0 -
What he needs is urban camo|: but, alas, those don't have the rectilinearity of Berlin Camouflage as on Chieftains of yore.Malmesbury said:
I'll send a note to Chief Constable Savage (OBE) to be on the look out for someone wearing loud shoes in a built up area.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.
https://tankmuseumshop.org/products/world-of-tanks-low-top-canvas-trainer-urban-camo0 -
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...3 -
You can tell the Americans are in charge when operations have daftly heroic names. I prefer the British names which mean absolutely nothing e.g. Operation Market Garden.SandyRentool said:
Operation Smörgåsbord.TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/2 -
Ah, nostalgia. Warsaw Pact, Reforger, Fulda Gap, Cheyenne Mountain, rotate your key, jumpers for goalposts...Malmesbury said:
The Soviet warplans claimed to assume a NATO surprise attack.viewcode said:
Was there ever a good alt-hist where NATO were the aggressors? "Red Storm Rising" and "By Dawn's Early Light" both had faked NATO attacks as the initiator, but otherwise it was always the Soviets as bad guysMalmesbury said:
Red Storm?TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/
Invariably, though, the "Surprise NATO attack" was assumed to have conquered not an inch of Warsaw Pact Territory and destroyed nothing. And the Warsaw pact units were all assumed to be at maximum readiness. And raring to go, on the border....
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Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q1 -
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She’s never heard of a metonymy?isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q2 -
Or the Streisand Effect?TheScreamingEagles said:
She’s never heard of a metonymy?isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q3 -
No, but she would call ScotParl "Holyrood", UKGov "Whitehall", UKParl "Westminster", USGov "Washington", USDef "The Pentagon"...isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche2 -
Laughable.isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
I’m more a voyeur these days…..keeping my political head down before the inevitable annihilation.Alanbrooke said:
Any reason JohnO isnt posting these days ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.5 -
When in a hole…isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q1 -
I think that means we should refer to Village Urugwiro, which is the Rwandan President's official residence...?viewcode said:
No, but she would call ScotParl "Holyrood", UKGov "Whitehall", UKParl "Westminster", USGov "Washington", USDef "The Pentagon"...isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche1 -
(checks under the bed)JohnO said:
I’m more a voyeur these days…..Alanbrooke said:
Any reason JohnO isnt posting these days ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.1 -
Coffey doubling down on yesterday's booboo. Followed by some excellent replies, even from dear old Femi.
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=20
Yet more Streisand effect. Why do people do this?1 -
Trying to conflate the Commons refusal to implement the result of the referendum with the Lords thwarting the Rwanda bill is straw clutching from Rishi I think. I don’t remember explicitly voting for it, and neither does anyone else
Coming across like a poor man’s Theresa May
Do not frustrate the will of the people'
In a press conference this morning @RishiSunak urged members of the House of Lords to 'do the right thing' after his Rwanda Bill passed through the Commons
itv.com/news/2024-01-1…
https://x.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1747930712110498127?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q1 -
Small, perfectly formed but I am there.viewcode said:
(checks under the bed)JohnO said:
I’m more a voyeur these days…..Alanbrooke said:
Any reason JohnO isnt posting these days ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I am meeting JohnO on Saturday and I’ve bought new trainers for the occasion.Malmesbury said:
Easier to assume that everything that @TSE posts is as sarcastic as his taste in shoes is loud.algarkirk said:
Easier just to keep your Irony Tracker switched to 'On'. It works when there is no mobile signal.TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.3 -
She did indeedviewcode said:
No, but she would call ScotParl "Holyrood", UKGov "Whitehall", UKParl "Westminster", USGov "Washington", USDef "The Pentagon"...isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche
@montie Holyrood, Cardiff and Stormont now have carte blanche on devolved matters with no scrutiny from Lords
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/562531086480470016?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q1 -
There's a reason for meaningless names. Famously the Allies worked out that "Wotan" was a single beam radar system because Wotan had one eye. And a Welsh accent. See https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/bnkzdq/til_during_wwii_the_german_army_used_a_radar/Cookie said:
You can tell the Americans are in charge when operations have daftly heroic names. I prefer the British names which mean absolutely nothing e.g. Operation Market Garden.SandyRentool said:
Operation Smörgåsbord.TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/2 -
Shades of the tabloid attack on the judiciary as "Enemies of the People".isam said:Trying to conflate the Commons refusal to implement the result of the referendum with the Lords thwarting the Rwanda bill is straw clutching from Rishi I think. I don’t remember explicitly voting for it, and neither does anyone else
Coming across like a poor man’s Theresa May
Do not frustrate the will of the people'
In a press conference this morning @RishiSunak urged members of the House of Lords to 'do the right thing' after his Rwanda Bill passed through the Commons
itv.com/news/2024-01-1…
https://x.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1747930712110498127?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
Femi really is a jerk of the first order.TimS said:Coffey doubling down on yesterday's booboo. Followed by some excellent replies, even from dear old Femi.
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=20
Yet more Streisand effect. Why do people do this?
Stella Ceeasy also doubled down on her faux pas.0 -
But maybe she considered she had a good reason for disrespecting Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.isam said:
She did indeedviewcode said:
No, but she would call ScotParl "Holyrood", UKGov "Whitehall", UKParl "Westminster", USGov "Washington", USDef "The Pentagon"...isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche
@montie Holyrood, Cardiff and Stormont now have carte blanche on devolved matters with no scrutiny from Lords
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/562531086480470016?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q1 -
I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
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We also get "Project XYZ" meaningless names when we are doing due diligence for potential sales and acquisitions.viewcode said:
There's a reason for meaningless names. Famously the Allies worked out that "Wotan" was a single beam radar system because Wotan had one eye. And a Welsh accent. See https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/bnkzdq/til_during_wwii_the_german_army_used_a_radar/Cookie said:
You can tell the Americans are in charge when operations have daftly heroic names. I prefer the British names which mean absolutely nothing e.g. Operation Market Garden.SandyRentool said:
Operation Smörgåsbord.TheScreamingEagles said:I miss the days when we were assured Sweden didn’t want anything to do with NATO, although they need to come up with better Operation names, it’s no Able Archer or ReForGer.
Nato members will send 90,000 troops to the alliance’s largest military exercise since the Cold War.
Britain is deploying 20,000 soldiers to Operation Steadfast Defender 2024, which starts next week and will continue until the end of May.
Gen Christopher Cavoli, Nato’s most senior commander, said the exercises would demonstrate the alliance’s ability to quickly “reinforce” its territory in the event of an attack.
Exercises will take place in Germany, Poland and the Baltic States in what is widely expected to be a simulation of war with Russia.
Troops from all 31 Nato members and Sweden, a candidate for membership, are taking part.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/18/ukraine-russia-war-live-st-petersburg-drone-strike/
Had one recently named after a Shakespearean character - could well be the corporate "theme" for naming projects.
Current project shares a name with a railway locomotive, which is much better!1 -
There's been uses of "The Edinburgh Government" and "The Paris Government" recorded in the pages of Hansard, you would have thought that our former Deputy Prime Minister would have checked, she had the whole morning to compose her tweet.isam said:Not having this!
Some keyboard snipers moaning that I criticised the opposition for referring to the Kigali government, not the Rwandan government.
I would not call the French government, the Paris government nor the Scottish government, the Edinburgh government.
Why disrespect Rwanda?
https://x.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
OGH - "whatever happens in the Democrat primary will have no impact whatsoever on who gets the nomination."
SSI - Half correct, half NOT.
Correct in sense that, because New Hamphire primary date violated Democratic National Party rules, zero delegates will be awarded . . . at least until the Democratic National Convention comes up with a fix, like happened in 2016 with similar situation re: Michigan.
Wrong in sense that, if Joe Biden's write-in campaign yields way less than, say, 50% of the total NH Democratic presidential primary vote, THAT could most definitely have an impact - on the betting, on upcoming primaries AND on the nomination.
AS FOR NEVADA REPUBLICAN CAUCUS versus PRIMARY
Note that under Nevada GOP rules, any candidate who filed for the Nevada Primary is INELIGIBLE to receive ANY delegates from the Silver State to the Republican National Convention.
Here is list of candidate who filed for Nevada Republican presidential PRIMARY
John Anthony Castro
Heath V. Fulkerson
Nikki Haley
Donald Kjornes
Mike Pence (withdrawn)
Tim Scott (withdrawn)
Hirsh V. Singh (withdrawn)
And here is list of candidates who filed with NV GOP for Nevada Republican presidential CAUCUSES
Ryan Binkley
Ron DeSantis
Donald Trump1 -
@RedfieldWilton
Blue Wall Sunak v Starmer (17-18 January)
Starmer leads on 13 of 18 leadership characteristics polled, including:
Cares about ppl. like me (35% | 25%)
Represents change (38% | 29%)
Keeps promises (28% | 23%)
Is a strong leader (31% | 29%)0 -
Sadiq Khan ‘pauses’ English language requirements for private hire drivers in London.
https://x.com/sadiqkhan/status/17476466458256222190 -
Implies to me that people don't actually care about immigration as much as they make out, otherwise they'd surely have seen the statistics. I mean it's not as if they've not been in the news recently.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=190 -
It is quite remarkable how many voters are out of touch on these statsFoxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=190 -
The Glens will be a bit tricky. Check before you leave Dyce.SandyRentool said:
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...2 -
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
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I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration. My sense is public opinion is being shaped by the news on this, rather than personal experience. In the same way you sometimes see people's views on their personal financial prospects way more positive than their answers on the national economy.2 -
Maybe they don't believe the official numbers for a quantity that - more or less by definition - isn't properly documented anywhere.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=190 -
TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
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They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
And another very interesting difference from 2014-16: concern about immigration in polling is much more partisan, and more concentrated in older voters. If it's largely the retired who are worrying then it's not because they're directly affected by housing availability or school places, which was one of the big gripes in areas with large Eastern European influxes before Brexit.0 -
Anyhoo, everything is fine anyway
“The globe is already pockmarked with crises, and here may be another: North Korea is acting in highly unusual ways, leading some veteran analysts to fear it is preparing a surprise attack on South Korea and perhaps on Japan and Guam as well.”
NYT
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Is that really surprising?Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
45% saw the Angles, Saxons and Jutes risking treacherous sea crossings in small, poorly equipped boats, and just wading ashore. And so, naturally, they answer that they came here illegally. Whereas the minority of subscribers to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle knew that Hengist and Horsa had been invited over by Vortigern, and hence had arrived legally.2 -
Yeh, I read that one earlier on NY Times site. Jeez. Just what we all need.Leon said:Anyhoo, everything is fine anyway
“The globe is already pockmarked with crises, and here may be another: North Korea is acting in highly unusual ways, leading some veteran analysts to fear it is preparing a surprise attack on South Korea and perhaps on Japan and Guam as well.”
NYT
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It could be the case that people can't believe that the government is letting so many people move here so they assume much more of it must be illegal.TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.0 -
Most likelykinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=191 -
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this0 -
The irony being a few centuries later after 52% of voters chose for Harold to put a stop to free movement of Danes, they saw a massive increase in migration from Northern France instead.IanB2 said:
Is that really surprising?Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
45% saw the Angles, Saxons and Jutes risking treacherous sea crossings in small, poorly equipped boats, and just wading ashore. And so, naturally, they answer that they came here illegally. Whereas the minority of subscribers to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle knew that Hengist and Horsa had been invited over by Vortigern, and hence had arrived legally.4 -
I just got the train back into Aberdeen from Dyce. All the trains on the Inverness line are running late and there are a lot of cancellations - amusingly the anouncements say because of 'predicted severe weather' rather than because of actual severe weather. There is still about 4 inches of snow on the ground at Dyce and I presume it gets worse as you move out of the immediate environs of Aberdeen.Cicero said:
The Glens will be a bit tricky. Check before you leave Dyce.SandyRentool said:
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...
I willl be spending the weekend waiting on choppers in Aberdeen. I was supposed to fly up to the Shetlands tomorrow and then on from there ouit into the Atlantic for 3 weeks on the Ocean GreatWhite - the largest semi-submersible drilling rig in the world. Unfortunately (particularly for my back to back) the weather has been so bad that no choppers have made it to the rig this week. Lots of people who already spent Christmas and New Year offshore now not able to get home.
Predictions are 70 - 80 mile an hour winds over the next week so not sure I will be going anywhere for a while.5 -
I am looking at what polling says at the moment. Maybe it will move and we'll be in rivers of blood territory in a year's time but that's not what the surveys are saying now.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this0 -
https://x.com/charles_lister/status/1747806854585934121
In the past week alone, the Middle East has seen an insane scale of cross-border conflict:
Pakistan <-> Iran
Houthi -> Red Sea shipping
Iran -> Syria
Iran -> Iraq
Hezbollah -> Israel
US/UK -> Yemen
Turkey -> Syria
Jordan -> Syria
Iran proxies in Iraq -> Israel0 -
Yes, but you’re an idiotTimS said:
I am looking at what polling says at the moment. Maybe it will move and we'll be in rivers of blood territory in a year's time but that's not what the surveys are saying now.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this0 -
Does feel quite world war-ishwilliamglenn said:https://x.com/charles_lister/status/1747806854585934121
In the past week alone, the Middle East has seen an insane scale of cross-border conflict:
Pakistan <-> Iran
Houthi -> Red Sea shipping
Iran -> Syria
Iran -> Iraq
Hezbollah -> Israel
US/UK -> Yemen
Turkey -> Syria
Jordan -> Syria
Iran proxies in Iraq -> Israel0 -
Six people coming out of the station in question slipped on ice.Cicero said:
The Glens will be a bit tricky. Check before you leave Dyce.SandyRentool said:
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...
The last one did a somersault and landed on his feet. He got lucky with the last roll of the Dyce.5 -
Sounds chilly, not to mention cramped and inconvenient. Couldn't they at least find you a hotel?Richard_Tyndall said:
I just got the train back into Aberdeen from Dyce. All the trains on the Inverness line are running late and there are a lot of cancellations - amusingly the anouncements say because of 'predicted severe weather' rather than because of actual severe weather. There is still about 4 inches of snow on the ground at Dyce and I presume it gets worse as you move out of the immediate environs of Aberdeen.Cicero said:
The Glens will be a bit tricky. Check before you leave Dyce.SandyRentool said:
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...
I willl be spending the weekend waiting on choppers in Aberdeen. I was supposed to fly up to the Shetlands tomorrow and then on from there ouit into the Atlantic for 3 weeks on the Ocean GreatWhite - the largest semi-submersible drilling rig in the world. Unfortunately (particularly for my back to back) the weather has been so bad that no choppers have made it to the rig this week. Lots of people who already spent Christmas and New Year offshore now not able to get home.
Predictions are 70 - 80 mile an hour winds over the next week so not sure I will be going anywhere for a while.2 -
Here is the very basic problem. Millions of people have been whipped to dislike immigrants. And muslims. And lefties. And so on. So migration is now a pretty visceral issue, especially in left behind communities who blame the forrin for all of cuts to services.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this
But - the Tories have focused obsessively on Stop The Boats. Those are visible. But lets assume that their wildest dreams come true and the boats do stop. Will that make people happy?
No - because they assume that Stop The Boats means less foreigners. And there is a growing tide of legal migration that the Stop The Boats party are letting in (rightly). Rather than Stop The Boats delivering, it will infuriate. Why are there more and more migrants? Didn't we Stop The Boats to get rid of them?2 -
Indeed.isam said:Trying to conflate the Commons refusal to implement the result of the referendum with the Lords thwarting the Rwanda bill is straw clutching from Rishi I think. I don’t remember explicitly voting for it, and neither does anyone else
Coming across like a poor man’s Theresa May
Do not frustrate the will of the people'
In a press conference this morning @RishiSunak urged members of the House of Lords to 'do the right thing' after his Rwanda Bill passed through the Commons
itv.com/news/2024-01-1…
https://x.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1747930712110498127?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
If Rishi underperforms vs expectations in the same way as Mrs May did, the Tories could be down to 50 odd seats....0 -
I'm due to land just after 9pm. Main roads are ok around Aberdeen. Its north of Ellon where it gets exciting. An awful lot of places where the snow is being blown off the fields onto the road. But all my routes home are plowed and gritted, and they are out again now to do them all again.Richard_Tyndall said:
I just got the train back into Aberdeen from Dyce. All the trains on the Inverness line are running late and there are a lot of cancellations - amusingly the anouncements say because of 'predicted severe weather' rather than because of actual severe weather. There is still about 4 inches of snow on the ground at Dyce and I presume it gets worse as you move out of the immediate environs of Aberdeen.Cicero said:
The Glens will be a bit tricky. Check before you leave Dyce.SandyRentool said:
It could be a bit of a Dyce-y journey.RochdalePioneers said:Good afternoon from Gatwick. Sensational business meeting this morning, so well worth the trip. But. Roads were unpleasant for a chunk of the drive to the airport yesterday, and today can best be described as snowmageddon.
I wonder if I will actually make it home tonight? Back to Aberdeen, no problem. Beyond that, not sure...
I willl be spending the weekend waiting on choppers in Aberdeen. I was supposed to fly up to the Shetlands tomorrow and then on from there ouit into the Atlantic for 3 weeks on the Ocean GreatWhite - the largest semi-submersible drilling rig in the world. Unfortunately (particularly for my back to back) the weather has been so bad that no choppers have made it to the rig this week. Lots of people who already spent Christmas and New Year offshore now not able to get home.
Predictions are 70 - 80 mile an hour winds over the next week so not sure I will be going anywhere for a while.
We will see! Otherwise I will be in an airport hotel...1 -
A man who sees every passing mammal as a wolf is pretty idiotic, tbh.Leon said:
Yes, but you’re an idiotTimS said:
I am looking at what polling says at the moment. Maybe it will move and we'll be in rivers of blood territory in a year's time but that's not what the surveys are saying now.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this1 -
williamglenn said:
Sadiq Khan ‘pauses’ English language requirements for private hire drivers in London.
https://x.com/sadiqkhan/status/1747646645825622219
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But still, to think most immigrants are coming here illegally, that's a pretty shocking misapprehension. I'm surprised by it.Endillion said:
Maybe they don't believe the official numbers for a quantity that - more or less by definition - isn't properly documented anywhere.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=190 -
Most of it "Green on Green"?williamglenn said:https://x.com/charles_lister/status/1747806854585934121
In the past week alone, the Middle East has seen an insane scale of cross-border conflict:
Pakistan <-> Iran
Houthi -> Red Sea shipping
Iran -> Syria
Iran -> Iraq
Hezbollah -> Israel
US/UK -> Yemen
Turkey -> Syria
Jordan -> Syria
Iran proxies in Iraq -> Israel0 -
…
Sunak & Sir Keir are so devoid of any personality, if there were a charismatic, straight talking, non Tory or Labour politician out there, the conditions are ripe for a Cleggasm. I’d say Farage but is he too well known?Mortimer said:
Indeed.isam said:Trying to conflate the Commons refusal to implement the result of the referendum with the Lords thwarting the Rwanda bill is straw clutching from Rishi I think. I don’t remember explicitly voting for it, and neither does anyone else
Coming across like a poor man’s Theresa May
Do not frustrate the will of the people'
In a press conference this morning @RishiSunak urged members of the House of Lords to 'do the right thing' after his Rwanda Bill passed through the Commons
itv.com/news/2024-01-1…
https://x.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1747930712110498127?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
If Rishi underperforms vs expectations in the same way as Mrs May did, the Tories could be down to 50 odd seats....0 -
"Post Office inquiry: Fujitsu manager called sub-postmaster 'nasty chap'"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-680175710 -
You're hopecasting.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this0 -
What happens when Reform start trumpeting the 1.3 million? This could well sink Rishi.TimS said:
I am looking at what polling says at the moment. Maybe it will move and we'll be in rivers of blood territory in a year's time but that's not what the surveys are saying now.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this1 -
We're looking at a non-charismatic landslide victory. Nothing like 1997 in that sense.isam said:…
Sunak & Sir Keir are so devoid of any charisma, if there were a charismatic, straight talking, non Tory or Labour politician out the conditions are ripe for a Cleggasm. I’d say Farage but is he too well known?Mortimer said:
Indeed.isam said:Trying to conflate the Commons refusal to implement the result of the referendum with the Lords thwarting the Rwanda bill is straw clutching from Rishi I think. I don’t remember explicitly voting for it, and neither does anyone else
Coming across like a poor man’s Theresa May
Do not frustrate the will of the people'
In a press conference this morning @RishiSunak urged members of the House of Lords to 'do the right thing' after his Rwanda Bill passed through the Commons
itv.com/news/2024-01-1…
https://x.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1747930712110498127?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
If Rishi underperforms vs expectations in the same way as Mrs May did, the Tories could be down to 50 odd seats....0 -
Sharing a cell with Nicola Sturgeon?TheScreamingEagles said:
We need a sarcasm symbol though I really spend less timeeek said:
Why? They are getting just what they (especially he) deservesTheScreamingEagles said:Thoughts and prayers for Michelle Mone and Douglas Barrowman.
fantasyingthinking about Michelle Mone in a women’s prison.0 -
PreciselyMightyAlex said:
What happens when Reform start trumpeting the 1.3 million? This could well sink Rishi.TimS said:
I am looking at what polling says at the moment. Maybe it will move and we'll be in rivers of blood territory in a year's time but that's not what the surveys are saying now.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this
And, when Labour takes over this year, the Tories will shamelessly blame all the migration on Labour
And it will work. Because voters are only just waking up now to the scale of what is happening in Britain and to Britain. We are set for a massive right wards shift on this issue, under PM Starmer. What will he do?!
The Tories are lying bastards but in this instance their utter mendacity will work for them
I see no reason - none at all - why the UK will not follow the rest of the western world towards a hard/far right form of governance
It will be anti migrant, nativist, and belligerent. It will shift money towards defence spending over welfare. It will be tax light as that is the only way to attract capital. It’s coming and it’s not going to be pretty0 -
I think there is a basic point there even though he is hopecasting. But "they are now beginning to twig" - yes. That the Tories and the right wind media have been lying to them. That they are making things worse not better. Hence the endless slide in the polls and the rise of the FUKers.kinabalu said:
You're hopecasting.Leon said:
Just because some blithe midwit vineyard-owning lefty twat like you doesn’t care about immigration and doesn’t want his compatriots to care does NOT mean people less rich than you don’t careTimS said:
They're evidently not noticing the actual numbers of legal migration. They think total migration is below 100kLeon said:TimS said:
I don't think it's that. Recent polling showed people think total migration levels are way way lower than they actually are - below 100k per year. The real issue is the enormous UNDERestimate of legal migration.kinabalu said:
The enormous overestimate of illegal migration is presumably fed by the government talking about little else.Foxy said:I see most Britons are wrong:
Do Britons believe more migrants come to the UK legally or illegally?
All Britons
More come illegally: 45%
More come legally: 34%
About the same: 8%
2019 Con voters
More come illegally: 56%
More come legally: 27%
About the same: 8%
2019 Lab voters
More come illegally: 33%
More come legally: 44%
About the same: 7%
yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1748021240009273784?t=wypuofuiGxaCltT5c08dTw&s=19
It's another reason I don't get the sense migration is directly and noticeably affecting people's day to day lives now in the way it did - in certain areas - before the referendum. Otherwise they would be coming up with much higher estimates of legal migration.
Utter shite. People are noticing. And that noticing is about to surge
They are now beginning to twig. You can sense it. The influx is so vast
The reason there is a delay between reality and political opinion is because Brexit. Voters assumed they’d pulled the lever on mass immigration and stopped it. They forgot that politicians are all venal liars
They are now waking up to this1
