Tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the streets of Ashkelon – politicalbetting.com
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On the bright side for whoever it is, the Tories have broken the criminal justice system. Getting to trial at all will be a long process. And its only a few weeks that judges were told not to send convicted rapists to jail as they were already overflowing.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.0 -
Snap. Not necessarily, but interesting nonetheless.Stark_Dawning said:
Being questioned by Surrey Police. Is that relevant?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.0 -
This has put the issue of getting Palestine back on the map back on the map, but it's surely taken Hamas out of the equation long term (even if not destroyed) because it's hard to see how they could be tolerated as part of any negotiations after their atrocity on 7 Oct.Stuartinromford said:
Two ways that peace comes about.rcs1000 said:What a really excellent article, to which I would just add one more thing: the timing was not accidental. Hamas (Iran) is desperate to avoid the continued normalisation of relations between Israel and its Arab neighbours.
One is total victory/total defeat (which isn't going to happen, is it?)
The other is when enough people on both sides conclude they prefer peace to ongoing war, even if the price is making concessions. I wonder how big that slice of opinion is on each side.
Part of the problem with the Israel/Palestine situation is the number of people on both sides who prefer ongoing war to making concessions. The other, nastier problem is those who prefer ongoing war as a good in itself, becuase of the status and security it gives them. To an extent, Hamas needs Netanyahu and Netanyahu needs Hamas.0 -
Actually, at this rate there will be no need for a GE as 300 ByElections will do itspudgfsh said:
at this rate there's going to be a GE by default as most of the Tory MPs will have given up their seats.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
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Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova confirmed that a Hamas delegation is indeed in Moscow.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1717542934365540377
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You are the second person to mention the rapprochement between KSA and Israel, but I think that's somewhat old news. They both supported (KSA publicly, Israel a lot more more surreptitiously) efforts by Islamic militants to overthrow Assad, and as far as I can see for some years their enmity has been more public than private. The real rivalry in the Middle East is Iran and its allies (including Russia) vs. KSA and its allies (including the West), and it's the rapprochement of Iran and KSA under the auspices of China that is a far bigger news story to me, with far bigger implications for Israel.Jim_Miller said:Surprise! And a nasty one at that. The September 9th issue of The Economist has a cover story titled "The New Middle East". The subtitle is: "More money and less mayhem. For now."
Nothing in the story suggests the Hamas terrorist attack may be about to happen. (Except possibly that last sentence in the subitle.)
So, how did The Economist miss the approaching storm? Perhaps the publication, for understandable reasons, pays too much attention to making money, and too little attention to deep hatreds.
Perhaps also because Iran and Hamas saw they were losing out, with it becoming more likely that the Saudis and Israelis would soon sign a peace agreement -- and both would make their peoples even better off.0 -
Makes a change from his council house in Barnett probably.Nigelb said:Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova confirmed that a Hamas delegation is indeed in Moscow.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/17175429343655403770 -
You will need one, young Skywalker. You will need one...Pagan2 said:
I live in a house I have no gpviewcode said:
Vanlife does not work. You have to park it and it is not easy getting a place to do it. Damp is almost unavoidable. If you live in a van permanently you have no address and hence no GP. If you live in a van temporarily you have to buy the thing and if it's good enough to sleep in it's too expensive to justify the expense. Plus you are incredibly vulnerable if somebody breaks in. Don't do it.RochdalePioneers said:
I'm doing better and better with my consulting gig (now into my 4th year) and could be based anywhere. Moving to rural Aberdeenshire is already "anywhere" compared to the usual places someone at my level in this industry would be based.ydoethur said:
When I quit my job and started tutoring, I had this half-formed idea of doing more travel to warmer places in winter while taking my laptop so I could still work.RochdalePioneers said:
If Mrs RP ever decides to get shut of me, I will buy a van and basically spend my time on the road. Why be stuck in a pokey expensive rental when you can travel?Leon said:There are also advantages to the solo, wandering life
Cheers from Ortigia
Hasn't quite worked out as although I'm earning an absolute mint at the moment I have to be on site for much of it, but maybe next year.
So why not push that further again. Have seen a few vanlife channels on YouTube and a few seem to have done Tesla. With my channel also rocketing forward in terms of views and revenues there could be some crossover thing I could do. Hoovie seem's to have survived the transition from Hoovie's Garage to getting the boot...
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Wont these political scandals ever finnish?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.2 -
I do feel sorry for John Major. He only had the auto-erotic-asphyxiation guy, which seems something of a banality these days, but that in itself was enough to sink him.1
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No. Where have you been the past few centuries?noneoftheabove said:
Wont these political scandals ever finnish?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.0 -
That explains a lot. People are so in awe at his mighty physique they mentally convert the image into fat Gummidge cosplay.Luckyguy1983 said:
You know it's all muscle, right?viewcode said:I appreciate that the perception filter/somebody else's problem field is still in effect around Boris Johnson, but by all the angels above how can we discuss plagiarism without mentioning him. Y'know. Fat scruffy bloke. Used to be PM. That one.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=boris+johnson+plagiarism
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Disagree. It's his USP. I like the different styles on here. His one is like Kerouac meets Times editorial.Leon said:
You write articulately and persuasivelyMJW said:
There's a basic problem here though - every one wants an end to senseless deaths - but the problem that Hamas and, previously, Israeli hardliners have become adept at exploiting is the terrorist's veto. By that I mean the fact that as long as there is a significant minority who do want genocidal violence, then it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to do the kind of things that would start the ball rolling on peace and live side by side. As long as there are 50,000+ armed young men in Gaza belonging to an organisation whose charter is only indistinguishable from Nazism in its religious allusions, and who share those beliefs, there's going to be some kind of security arrangements that Palestinians justifiably find abhorrent. That's previously been exploited by both sides' hardliners to create misery for Palestinians. But now sadly puts the Israelis in an impossible position - the only way some kind of peace and security can be achieved is in operationally destroying Hamas - as a ceasefire just leaves them intact to plan the next outrage when Hezbollah might also have a crack, but Hamas will ensure the human cost of efforts to get rid of them is huge. There are really no good options here - and I fear those who go a bit John Lennon about it all are deluding themselves. Which is why everything ends up full of horror. There maybe no good outcome that doesn't involve either the human cost of militarily removing Hamas, or the future human cost of appeasement that strengthens both Hamas and its allies in dictatorial regimes who will have absolutely no hesitation to wipe out Israel and who have already caused huge bloodshed across the region, far more than the Israelis have ever managed.Selebian said:I'm in the 60%
I'll not "stand with Israel" because of the things they have done and will do in Gaza (and indeed the West Bank). Neither do I stand with Gaza and Hamas.
I stand with those on both sides who wish for no more hatred and senseless death. Sadly, from the outside, they seem a minority, but perhaps it is not so.
But please learn to paragraph! It’s not hard
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With you there, Kin.kinabalu said:
Disagree. It's his USP. I like the different styles on here. His one is like Kerouac meets Times editorial.Leon said:
You write articulately and persuasivelyMJW said:
There's a basic problem here though - every one wants an end to senseless deaths - but the problem that Hamas and, previously, Israeli hardliners have become adept at exploiting is the terrorist's veto. By that I mean the fact that as long as there is a significant minority who do want genocidal violence, then it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to do the kind of things that would start the ball rolling on peace and live side by side. As long as there are 50,000+ armed young men in Gaza belonging to an organisation whose charter is only indistinguishable from Nazism in its religious allusions, and who share those beliefs, there's going to be some kind of security arrangements that Palestinians justifiably find abhorrent. That's previously been exploited by both sides' hardliners to create misery for Palestinians. But now sadly puts the Israelis in an impossible position - the only way some kind of peace and security can be achieved is in operationally destroying Hamas - as a ceasefire just leaves them intact to plan the next outrage when Hezbollah might also have a crack, but Hamas will ensure the human cost of efforts to get rid of them is huge. There are really no good options here - and I fear those who go a bit John Lennon about it all are deluding themselves. Which is why everything ends up full of horror. There maybe no good outcome that doesn't involve either the human cost of militarily removing Hamas, or the future human cost of appeasement that strengthens both Hamas and its allies in dictatorial regimes who will have absolutely no hesitation to wipe out Israel and who have already caused huge bloodshed across the region, far more than the Israelis have ever managed.Selebian said:I'm in the 60%
I'll not "stand with Israel" because of the things they have done and will do in Gaza (and indeed the West Bank). Neither do I stand with Gaza and Hamas.
I stand with those on both sides who wish for no more hatred and senseless death. Sadly, from the outside, they seem a minority, but perhaps it is not so.
But please learn to paragraph! It’s not hard
Just do a paragraph every three or four sentences. That’s all it takes
It's his natural style, and by no means inelegant. It may not be quite what's required for The Flintknappers Gazette, but it suits me fine.1 -
Milligan was first rate comedy (pearl clutchers fuck off, it was funny and you know it was) but Major had way more scandals than just that. Dinky Duncan, Aitken, Hamilton, etc.Stark_Dawning said:I do feel sorry for John Major. He only had the auto-erotic-asphyxiation guy, which seems something of a banality these days, but that in itself was enough to sink him.
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They do seem to be coming in a steady procession now. Not Rishi's fault at all, but every few months, there are a couple of by-elections...noneoftheabove said:
Wont these political scandals ever finnish?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
From the Guardian report,
Another sitting Conservative MP, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested in May 2022 on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault and rape. He has not been charged.
So it's not him.0 -
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession
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I think that the (pretty minor) restoration is fine.Nigelb said:.
Visited it many decades ago,OnlyLivingBoy said:
We visited Knossos earlier in the year and I was a bit torn on it. I know the right answer is that the restoration and reconstruction work by the British dude is a travesty, but I thought that it probably did help to bring the palace alive a bit - without it, it would have just been a load of foundations. The sheer size of the site is impressive anyway. I was surprised at how interesting our kids found it, too.Leon said:
What did you think of Knossos?ydoethur said:
Wouldn't 'supercilious' fit the bill?Leon said:On topic and fpt for @OnlyLivingBoy
“I'm sure many people in a long term relationship would struggle to sustain a two hour conversation with their partner - I think I would. What is there to talk about for that long that one doesn't already know your partner's views on, and they yours?
I've been thinking about my relationship with my wife today as it's our 21st wedding anniversary - and tomorrow we will have been "going out" for 29 years. I can't say what our secret is - I wouldn't hold us up as some kind of ideal couple, anyway. I think we both love and like and respect each other, we are both monogamous by nature, we have similar senses of humour and we find each other attractive - me with better reason!
SNIP
I suspect we both also don't like the idea of being alone. By contrast, you seem to be quite happy with your own company and not that monogamous by nature, so perhaps a long relationship isn't something you really want? I would certainly recommend it, I can't imagine life without my wife but I would guess it's not for everyone.”
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Good for you. Seriously. I often envy my happily married friends but then I often feel the opposite of envy too (why isn’t there a precise word for that?)
I am definitely not the monogamous domestic type. I generally feel trapped. My short but very happy marriage was a startling anomaly - she’s quite an unusual person - and so am I
I hope I die on the road. In some tiny town in a remote part of Baluchistan, or lost in a ravine in Svalberg, or of an overdose in a backstreet in Valparaiso, or by driving over a cliff in Assynt. Dying alone and unnoticed will be totally fine with me. We all die alone in the end
I’ll probably expire in a nursing home in Hastings but a man can dream
Cheers from Heraklion
And I honestly don't know how I didn't kill any motorcyclists on my minor tour of Knossos and Phaistos. They are all fucking mental.
Tbh it disappointed me. Over restored and over painted. Weirdly like legoland
Crete has many wonders but Knossos is not one of them for me
Along with the scale I remeber being most impressed by the extensive terracotta plumbing system.0 -
Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.0 -
Why can they tell us it's a tory but nothing else? We could have probably worked that out anyway given the nature of the offence.0
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Following the nominative determinism of Pincher and Bone, there isn't a Mr Druggie-Rape amongst the 2019 cohort, is there?rcs1000 said:
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
we really shouldn't. you expose yourself to being sued (even here) for defamation if you are wrong. unless you know something the rest of us don't you will be wrong.rcs1000 said:
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
Interestingly, the Graun is also blacking out the name of ***** Plod. (Though what's the point of the Speaker not announcing which Honourable Member has been felt, when it only leads to - as indeed suggested ironically on PB earlier - a guessing game, and every other MP getting at least some of the splashes of brown stuff?)tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
72 years ago today, Churchill became PM for the second time.isam said:Seven years ago today
https://x.com/hillaryclinton/status/791263939015376902?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
I'm worried about Greg Hands if the nominative determinism continues.Stuartinromford said:
Following the nominative determinism of Pincher and Bone, there isn't a Mr Druggie-Rape amongst the 2019 cohort, is there?rcs1000 said:
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession2 -
"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.0
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Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
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BBC are naming the police force.tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090
But Guardian isn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
For the avoidance of doubt, this was a bad joke.rcs1000 said:
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession1 -
Upon reflection I find the fact that the FT, who will doubtless recommend voting Labour this time, published it more interesting than the story. She should be their Golden Girl.nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
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But that leaves a pretty short list of suspects.carnforth said:"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.
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I'll never forget the few hours one day in September 2014 when Mark Reckless defected to UKIP and rumours swirled that a Tory MP had been sending dick pics to a journo.Dura_Ace said:
Milligan was first rate comedy (pearl clutchers fuck off, it was funny and you know it was) but Major had way more scandals than just that. Dinky Duncan, Aitken, Hamilton, etc.Stark_Dawning said:I do feel sorry for John Major. He only had the auto-erotic-asphyxiation guy, which seems something of a banality these days, but that in itself was enough to sink him.
There were some very crossed wires on Team Cameron WhatsApp chats that day until the latter story was confirmed.
'Wait Mark Reckless has defected to UKIP because he was sending dick pics?'0 -
Met is no good. No standing in most of E, W, S and NI (and no competent knowledge of the law in much of the UK archipelago). Unless you think that MP's sex lives are as important a state secret as those protected by Special Branch, or a threat to the state comparable to those countered by the anti-terrorist forces? Hmm. I can see that some MPs in particular might feel that way,tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.0 -
Given how often Tory MPs seem to find themselves in this predicament, maybe the latest alleged example could also be accused of plagiarism?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
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Yes, the Abraham Accords were transential in the region, and the idea of normalised relations between the Saudis and Israel was going to be the trigger for a permanent peace.rcs1000 said:What a really excellent article, to which I would just add one more thing: the timing was not accidental. Hamas (Iran) is desperate to avoid the continued normalisation of relations between Israel and its Arab neighbours.
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I'm reminded of the time SLAB thought it had discovered a SNP minister making misleading changes to quotations from some outside source or other. They got very excited when they found that several words up to a para or two had been deleted and replaced by three full stops inside two square brackets. Spent a fair bit of Holyrood chamber time on it, as I seem to recall.carnforth said:
Upon reflection I find the fact that the FT, who will doubtless recommend voting Labour this time, published it more interesting than the story. She should be their Golden Girl.nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
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BBC is just reporting what Hamas told them, obviously.OnlyLivingBoy said:
BBC are naming the police force.tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090
But Guardian isn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession2 -
Going back to OLB's point - I cherish every moment with my wife, but yes, we do rather know everything about each other now. But we have kids - so we are never short of things to talk about. It's actual opportunities to talk just to each other which are hard to come by...Sean_F said:
I think that the (pretty minor) restoration is fine.Nigelb said:.
Visited it many decades ago,OnlyLivingBoy said:
We visited Knossos earlier in the year and I was a bit torn on it. I know the right answer is that the restoration and reconstruction work by the British dude is a travesty, but I thought that it probably did help to bring the palace alive a bit - without it, it would have just been a load of foundations. The sheer size of the site is impressive anyway. I was surprised at how interesting our kids found it, too.Leon said:
What did you think of Knossos?ydoethur said:
Wouldn't 'supercilious' fit the bill?Leon said:On topic and fpt for @OnlyLivingBoy
“I'm sure many people in a long term relationship would struggle to sustain a two hour conversation with their partner - I think I would. What is there to talk about for that long that one doesn't already know your partner's views on, and they yours?
I've been thinking about my relationship with my wife today as it's our 21st wedding anniversary - and tomorrow we will have been "going out" for 29 years. I can't say what our secret is - I wouldn't hold us up as some kind of ideal couple, anyway. I think we both love and like and respect each other, we are both monogamous by nature, we have similar senses of humour and we find each other attractive - me with better reason!
SNIP
I suspect we both also don't like the idea of being alone. By contrast, you seem to be quite happy with your own company and not that monogamous by nature, so perhaps a long relationship isn't something you really want? I would certainly recommend it, I can't imagine life without my wife but I would guess it's not for everyone.”
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Good for you. Seriously. I often envy my happily married friends but then I often feel the opposite of envy too (why isn’t there a precise word for that?)
I am definitely not the monogamous domestic type. I generally feel trapped. My short but very happy marriage was a startling anomaly - she’s quite an unusual person - and so am I
I hope I die on the road. In some tiny town in a remote part of Baluchistan, or lost in a ravine in Svalberg, or of an overdose in a backstreet in Valparaiso, or by driving over a cliff in Assynt. Dying alone and unnoticed will be totally fine with me. We all die alone in the end
I’ll probably expire in a nursing home in Hastings but a man can dream
Cheers from Heraklion
And I honestly don't know how I didn't kill any motorcyclists on my minor tour of Knossos and Phaistos. They are all fucking mental.
Tbh it disappointed me. Over restored and over painted. Weirdly like legoland
Crete has many wonders but Knossos is not one of them for me
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From previous threads: Here's a transcript of Mike Johnson's speech, after being elected Speaker of the House of Representatives: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/se/date/2023-10-25/segment/06
Three comments, which may help some of you understand why I think he may be a disappointment to the Loser. First, Johnson is, above all, an evangelical Christian. Mike Pence's faith made him do the right thing when it was most important, and I would expect the same to be true of of Johnson.
Second, there is no mention of Trump, or the 2020 election, in the entire speech.
Third, he does give some indications of his legislative priorities, including this on our budget deficits:
"We have to get the country back on track. We know this won't be an easy task, and tough decisions will have to be made. The consequences, if we don't act now, are unbearable.
We have a duty to the American people to explain this to them so they understand it well. And we are going to establish a bipartisan debt commission to begin working on this crisis immediately. Immediately."
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Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
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Guido initially named exactly where they were arrested (not doing so now and probably a wise move).OnlyLivingBoy said:
BBC are naming the police force.tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090
But Guardian isn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession1 -
Yup. Just three I think.FeersumEnjineeya said:
But that leaves a pretty short list of suspects.carnforth said:"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.
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The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.2 -
But tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the streets of Ashkelon, lest the libel lawyers rejoice.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Yup. Just three I think.FeersumEnjineeya said:
But that leaves a pretty short list of suspects.carnforth said:"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.
I imagine it will become blooming obvious soon enough.0 -
Or, in a more serious matter, Annette Schavanviewcode said:I appreciate that the perception filter/somebody else's problem field is still in effect around Boris Johnson, but by all the angels above how can we discuss plagiarism without mentioning him. Y'know. Fat scruffy bloke. Used to be PM. That one.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=boris+johnson+plagiarism
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/09/german-education-minister-quits-phd-plagiarism
Or Karl-Theodor zu Guttenber:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/01/german-defence-minister-resigns-plagiarism
Or Ursula von der Leyen:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34376563
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The police force could be down to the complainant and the person arrested might not live in their own constituency.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Yup. Just three I think.FeersumEnjineeya said:
But that leaves a pretty short list of suspects.carnforth said:"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.
This really isn't a good guessing game.
The prize for getting it wrong is a libel case and the prize for getting it right is a contempt case (I assume).
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No it is in thinking that in saying a book is by her - having her name in the title; going to all the glitzy launch bashes - she could pass the work on to RAs, who were proably poorly-paid for the endeavour. And probably did not go to the glitzy launch.mwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
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The eleventh commandment: sayeth not any actual names.Stuartinromford said:
But tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the streets of Ashkelon, lest the libel lawyers rejoice.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Yup. Just three I think.FeersumEnjineeya said:
But that leaves a pretty short list of suspects.carnforth said:"Man in his 60s" so it isn't who you all think it is.
I imagine it will become blooming obvious soon enough.0 -
Yupmwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.0 -
It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/1 -
Not sure the mention of Surrey police is much of a clue . Couldn’t it be where the offence was committed rather than where the accused lives .0
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Indeed.nico679 said:Not sure the mention of Surrey police is much of a clue . Couldn’t it be where the offence was committed rather than where the accused lives .
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That's business as usual,.though. If we don't think that's what all these books are like, that's on us too.JosiasJessop said:
No it is in thinking that in saying a book is by her - having her name in the title; going to all the glitzy launch bashes - she could pass the work on to RAs, who were proably poorly-paid for the endeavour. And probably did not go to the glitzy launch.mwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.0 -
I always think the job of a professional ghost writer must be a very strange endeavour.mwadams said:
That's business as usual,.though. If we don't think that's what all these books are like, that's on us too.JosiasJessop said:
No it is in thinking that in saying a book is by her - having her name in the title; going to all the glitzy launch bashes - she could pass the work on to RAs, who were proably poorly-paid for the endeavour. And probably did not go to the glitzy launch.mwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.
I am reminded of the movie the prestige where Hugh Jackman character has to spend evey night under the stage as his drunk talentless dopplerganger takes all the applause for the magic trick.0 -
I'm in my mid 40s and I prefer mayo/ketchup over gravy.FrancisUrquhart said:It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/0 -
That's a euphemism, right?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm in my mid 40s and I prefer mayo/ketchup over gravy.FrancisUrquhart said:It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/2 -
Another fine header Alanbrooke and I thought you just did comedy.0
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Next you will be telling us that pineapple on pizza isn't bad after all....TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm in my mid 40s and I prefer mayo/ketchup over gravy.FrancisUrquhart said:It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/0 -
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It doesn't surprise me that he might have got himself in a "situation". That doesn't mean he did was is being alleged, but he has had rather a midlife transition and pretty open about being pro-drugs legalisation / anti banning things like poppers.CatMan said:https://x.com/CrispinBlunt/status/1717585117932142922?s=20
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No.rcs1000 said:
That's a euphemism, right?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm in my mid 40s and I prefer mayo/ketchup over gravy.FrancisUrquhart said:It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/0 -
We all assume that waiting as long as possible for something to turn up is in the Tories’ best interests. But what if this is as good as it gets? Every month there’s either a new example of an MP with his hands where they should be (the till or elsewhere) or a new policy failure. And the good or at least reasonable stuff just gets ignored.
Landslide remains underpriced I think. Every month that passes without Tories getting into the low to mid 30s gets us closer. As do new by-elections, and indeed the 2024 locals. And the prospect of Trump acting like even more of a c**t next Autumn than last time while appearing to make common cause with the conservatives.0 -
Indeed. But if your name's on the cover, you get the responsibility - if it fails as well as if it succeeds.mwadams said:
That's business as usual,.though. If we don't think that's what all these books are like, that's on us too.JosiasJessop said:
No it is in thinking that in saying a book is by her - having her name in the title; going to all the glitzy launch bashes - she could pass the work on to RAs, who were proably poorly-paid for the endeavour. And probably did not go to the glitzy launch.mwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.
She's also throwing her RAs under the bus as well:
""In the acknowledgements I acknowledged the research assistants that I had, particularly on the facts and the detail that went into the pen portraits of the women that I speak about."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67225980
It's hilarious, but unimportant.0 -
Well if they were drugs they weren't performance enhancingOnlyLivingBoy said:
BBC are naming the police force.tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090
But Guardian isn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
Named by itv.0
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There is a film I like called “the ghost” with Piers Brosnan as a Blair type ex PM and Ewan McGregor as his ghostwriter out in some v nice pad on the northeast coast of the US.FrancisUrquhart said:
I always think the job of a professional ghost writer must be a very strange endeavour.mwadams said:
That's business as usual,.though. If we don't think that's what all these books are like, that's on us too.JosiasJessop said:
No it is in thinking that in saying a book is by her - having her name in the title; going to all the glitzy launch bashes - she could pass the work on to RAs, who were proably poorly-paid for the endeavour. And probably did not go to the glitzy launch.mwadams said:
The foolishness on Reeves' part was not realising that lazy RAs cull directly from Wikipedia these days. Unfortunately, Universities don't seem to be able to drum this out of them.Carnyx said:
Also: if Wiki is pretty much by definition Creative Commons v-whatever-.0, and there is a blanket credit to CC in the book (I assume), then what's the beef?nico679 said:Tory MPs going into overdrive over Reeves . Stupid not to have referenced properly but hardly a crime given the latest accusations against a Tory MP.
#Draintheswamp!
I'd pass everything through Turn It In or similar, if I was getting RAs to write under my name.
I am reminded of the movie the prestige where Hugh Jackman character has to spend evey night under the stage as his drunk talentless dopplerganger takes all the applause for the magic trick.1 -
I bet David Cameron wished he had got a ghost writer (or a better one), because all those hours in the shepherds hut turned out absolute garbage.0
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One difference, so far, is that Major suffered a number of defections in his last phase, which continued even after the 97 election when the Tories went into opposition. Even as late as 2007 Quentin Davies defected to Labour shortly after Gordon Brown became PM.Stark_Dawning said:I do feel sorry for John Major. He only had the auto-erotic-asphyxiation guy, which seems something of a banality these days, but that in itself was enough to sink him.
So far no floor-crossings during Rishi's tenure as PM. (Apart from the SNP lady, of course). However the by-elections are far more damaging. And, by my count, we seem to now have possibly three in the offing. Makes a recovery so much more difficult when the timeline is punctuated by these electoral pratfalls. He must wonder why he bothers sometimes.0 -
Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.0
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I may be wrong but your post appears to suggest The Economist was responsible for this catastrophic intelligence failure? I like The Economist but even I am not sure its news gathering operation is more capable than the Israeli intelligence services.Jim_Miller said:Surprise! And a nasty one at that. The September 9th issue of The Economist has a cover story titled "The New Middle East". The subtitle is: "More money and less mayhem. For now."
Nothing in the story suggests the Hamas terrorist attack may be about to happen. (Except possibly that last sentence in the subitle.)
So, how did The Economist miss the approaching storm? Perhaps the publication, for understandable reasons, pays too much attention to making money, and too little attention to deep hatreds.
Perhaps also because Iran and Hamas saw they were losing out, with it becoming more likely that the Saudis and Israelis would soon sign a peace agreement -- and both would make their peoples even better off.0 -
Thank you mon ami, maybe your mohel kept the right bit after all.Roger said:Another fine header Alanbrooke and I thought you just did comedy.
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If I remember my McNae, you can - but only a very small group that you are very obviously casting suspicion on. So, 29-year-old footballer or 'Top TV presenter' - fine. Striker for Melchester Rovers - probably not.OnlyLivingBoy said:
BBC are naming the police force.tlg86 said:Alastair Meeks on Twitter reckons we might be committing libel by mentioning Surrey Police. There's a bit of me that thinks anything like this should be done by the Met for this very reason.
Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure you can libel a group of people? Legal people on here may no more. If you can, I'd say the Met libelled all 29 year old Premier League footballers in London last year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090
But Guardian isn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession
So you aren't by naming the force - as an alleged offence being committed under their jurisdiction doesn't necessarily mean it's an MP for that area - and you can't be blamed for others deciding it is someone on very limited facts. The Guardian may have chosen not to print the name of the force though, knowing this is exactly what would happen these days, and any hint that would set people off might be ethically questionable.0 -
You never know everything. Hence the resonance of the pina colada song.Cookie said:
Going back to OLB's point - I cherish every moment with my wife, but yes, we do rather know everything about each other now. But we have kids - so we are never short of things to talk about. It's actual opportunities to talk just to each other which are hard to come by...Sean_F said:
I think that the (pretty minor) restoration is fine.Nigelb said:.
Visited it many decades ago,OnlyLivingBoy said:
We visited Knossos earlier in the year and I was a bit torn on it. I know the right answer is that the restoration and reconstruction work by the British dude is a travesty, but I thought that it probably did help to bring the palace alive a bit - without it, it would have just been a load of foundations. The sheer size of the site is impressive anyway. I was surprised at how interesting our kids found it, too.Leon said:
What did you think of Knossos?ydoethur said:
Wouldn't 'supercilious' fit the bill?Leon said:On topic and fpt for @OnlyLivingBoy
“I'm sure many people in a long term relationship would struggle to sustain a two hour conversation with their partner - I think I would. What is there to talk about for that long that one doesn't already know your partner's views on, and they yours?
I've been thinking about my relationship with my wife today as it's our 21st wedding anniversary - and tomorrow we will have been "going out" for 29 years. I can't say what our secret is - I wouldn't hold us up as some kind of ideal couple, anyway. I think we both love and like and respect each other, we are both monogamous by nature, we have similar senses of humour and we find each other attractive - me with better reason!
SNIP
I suspect we both also don't like the idea of being alone. By contrast, you seem to be quite happy with your own company and not that monogamous by nature, so perhaps a long relationship isn't something you really want? I would certainly recommend it, I can't imagine life without my wife but I would guess it's not for everyone.”
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Good for you. Seriously. I often envy my happily married friends but then I often feel the opposite of envy too (why isn’t there a precise word for that?)
I am definitely not the monogamous domestic type. I generally feel trapped. My short but very happy marriage was a startling anomaly - she’s quite an unusual person - and so am I
I hope I die on the road. In some tiny town in a remote part of Baluchistan, or lost in a ravine in Svalberg, or of an overdose in a backstreet in Valparaiso, or by driving over a cliff in Assynt. Dying alone and unnoticed will be totally fine with me. We all die alone in the end
I’ll probably expire in a nursing home in Hastings but a man can dream
Cheers from Heraklion
And I honestly don't know how I didn't kill any motorcyclists on my minor tour of Knossos and Phaistos. They are all fucking mental.
Tbh it disappointed me. Over restored and over painted. Weirdly like legoland
Crete has many wonders but Knossos is not one of them for me
Along with the scale I remeber being most impressed by the extensive terracotta plumbing system.2 -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.0 -
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-casualty-figures-from-the-hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry
A useful perspective on a question that's been raised here. Seems plausible, ie accords entirely with my priors.2 -
Would that be wise?rcs1000 said:
We should run some kind of guessing contest...williamglenn said:
Suspicion of rape and possession of drugs.tlg86 said:
Arrested by Surrey Police is interesting.Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession0 -
Or, perhaps, the reason Hamas launched the attack was that there were indications that the ME was becoming more stable, with less mayhem? After all, peace is not exactly lucrative for them.DougSeal said:
I may be wrong but your post appears to suggest The Economist was responsible for this catastrophic intelligence failure? I like The Economist but even I am not sure its news gathering operation is more capable than the Israeli intelligence services.Jim_Miller said:Surprise! And a nasty one at that. The September 9th issue of The Economist has a cover story titled "The New Middle East". The subtitle is: "More money and less mayhem. For now."
Nothing in the story suggests the Hamas terrorist attack may be about to happen. (Except possibly that last sentence in the subitle.)
So, how did The Economist miss the approaching storm? Perhaps the publication, for understandable reasons, pays too much attention to making money, and too little attention to deep hatreds.
Perhaps also because Iran and Hamas saw they were losing out, with it becoming more likely that the Saudis and Israelis would soon sign a peace agreement -- and both would make their peoples even better off.0 -
With what resolution for the Palestinians though?Sandpit said:
Yes, the Abraham Accords were transential in the region, and the idea of normalised relations between the Saudis and Israel was going to be the trigger for a permanent peace.rcs1000 said:What a really excellent article, to which I would just add one more thing: the timing was not accidental. Hamas (Iran) is desperate to avoid the continued normalisation of relations between Israel and its Arab neighbours.
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Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.0 -
Fair play to him for coming out with it rather than hiding behind lawyers and letting speculation mount over other MPs.TheScreamingEagles said:4 -
Mrs Foxy and I have been together since our Twenties, but have always maintained seperate friendships, so while there are few surprises we never run out of things to talk about. I wouldn't want to be married to anyone else.kinabalu said:
You never know everything. Hence the resonance of the pina colada song.Cookie said:
Going back to OLB's point - I cherish every moment with my wife, but yes, we do rather know everything about each other now. But we have kids - so we are never short of things to talk about. It's actual opportunities to talk just to each other which are hard to come by...Sean_F said:
I think that the (pretty minor) restoration is fine.Nigelb said:.
Visited it many decades ago,OnlyLivingBoy said:
We visited Knossos earlier in the year and I was a bit torn on it. I know the right answer is that the restoration and reconstruction work by the British dude is a travesty, but I thought that it probably did help to bring the palace alive a bit - without it, it would have just been a load of foundations. The sheer size of the site is impressive anyway. I was surprised at how interesting our kids found it, too.Leon said:
What did you think of Knossos?ydoethur said:
Wouldn't 'supercilious' fit the bill?Leon said:On topic and fpt for @OnlyLivingBoy
“I'm sure many people in a long term relationship would struggle to sustain a two hour conversation with their partner - I think I would. What is there to talk about for that long that one doesn't already know your partner's views on, and they yours?
I've been thinking about my relationship with my wife today as it's our 21st wedding anniversary - and tomorrow we will have been "going out" for 29 years. I can't say what our secret is - I wouldn't hold us up as some kind of ideal couple, anyway. I think we both love and like and respect each other, we are both monogamous by nature, we have similar senses of humour and we find each other attractive - me with better reason!
SNIP
I suspect we both also don't like the idea of being alone. By contrast, you seem to be quite happy with your own company and not that monogamous by nature, so perhaps a long relationship isn't something you really want? I would certainly recommend it, I can't imagine life without my wife but I would guess it's not for everyone.”
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Good for you. Seriously. I often envy my happily married friends but then I often feel the opposite of envy too (why isn’t there a precise word for that?)
I am definitely not the monogamous domestic type. I generally feel trapped. My short but very happy marriage was a startling anomaly - she’s quite an unusual person - and so am I
I hope I die on the road. In some tiny town in a remote part of Baluchistan, or lost in a ravine in Svalberg, or of an overdose in a backstreet in Valparaiso, or by driving over a cliff in Assynt. Dying alone and unnoticed will be totally fine with me. We all die alone in the end
I’ll probably expire in a nursing home in Hastings but a man can dream
Cheers from Heraklion
And I honestly don't know how I didn't kill any motorcyclists on my minor tour of Knossos and Phaistos. They are all fucking mental.
Tbh it disappointed me. Over restored and over painted. Weirdly like legoland
Crete has many wonders but Knossos is not one of them for me
Along with the scale I remeber being most impressed by the extensive terracotta plumbing system.3 -
I was just thinking of something that rhymed with his name but I couldn't come up with anythingTheScreamingEagles said:Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.
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So you don't think that the Tories are heading into an extinction event?rcs1000 said:
Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.
The longer this parliament runs the worse it gets for the Blue Meanies.0 -
His niece is Emily Blunt.Roger said:
I was just thinking of something that rhymed with his name but I couldn't come up with anythingTheScreamingEagles said:Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.
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LLG was 44.9% in 2019, so with decent tactical voting and the now clear trend away from conservatives in Surrey constituencies like this triggered by first Brexit then Covid migration, I speculate it could actually transform into a fairly safe Lib Dem seat by 2024.rcs1000 said:
Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.1 -
Larkin gets in first. Mr Bleaney:TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm in my mid 40s and I prefer mayo/ketchup over gravy.FrancisUrquhart said:It isn't just wikipedia cribbing that needs drilling out of youngsters.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/millennials-gen-z-swap-gravy-ketchup-christmas-dinner/
I know his habits -- what time he came down,
His preference for sauce to gravy, why
He kept on plugging at the four aways --
BTW that gravy is better is a fact, not a value.0 -
"Wit kant" in AfrikaansRoger said:
I was just thinking of something that rhymed with his name but I couldn't come up with anythingTheScreamingEagles said:Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.
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And distantly related to Bertie Blunt, through the Northumbrian Blunts.Alanbrooke said:
His niece is Emily Blunt.Roger said:
I was just thinking of something that rhymed with his name but I couldn't come up with anythingTheScreamingEagles said:Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.
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Unfortunately landslide has become the betting favourite. It's clear odds on that the Cons go below 175 seats. I'm annoyed because I got to that view well before the consensus and couldn't find a way to back it.TimS said:We all assume that waiting as long as possible for something to turn up is in the Tories’ best interests. But what if this is as good as it gets? Every month there’s either a new example of an MP with his hands where they should be (the till or elsewhere) or a new policy failure. And the good or at least reasonable stuff just gets ignored.
Landslide remains underpriced I think. Every month that passes without Tories getting into the low to mid 30s gets us closer. As do new by-elections, and indeed the 2024 locals. And the prospect of Trump acting like even more of a c**t next Autumn than last time while appearing to make common cause with the conservatives.0 -
And the worst of it is, I clicked the link expecting it to be an east London story from my old patch, but it turns out to be another Tory MP entirely. How many rotten characters do they have?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
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Why not go for Tory landslide, you;ll get cracking odds.kinabalu said:
Unfortunately landslide has become the betting favourite. It's clear odds on that the Cons go below 175 seats. I'm annoyed because I got to that view well before the consensus and couldn't find a way to back it.TimS said:We all assume that waiting as long as possible for something to turn up is in the Tories’ best interests. But what if this is as good as it gets? Every month there’s either a new example of an MP with his hands where they should be (the till or elsewhere) or a new policy failure. And the good or at least reasonable stuff just gets ignored.
Landslide remains underpriced I think. Every month that passes without Tories getting into the low to mid 30s gets us closer. As do new by-elections, and indeed the 2024 locals. And the prospect of Trump acting like even more of a c**t next Autumn than last time while appearing to make common cause with the conservatives.2 -
He should have been deselected years ago.boulay said:
Fair play to him for coming out with it rather than hiding behind lawyers and letting speculation mount over other MPs.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Though if I were Hunt, I'd be a bit happier if the Yellow Peril had another seat to potentially defend at the other end of the county.Foxy said:
So you don't think that the Tories are heading into an extinction event?rcs1000 said:
Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.
The longer this parliament runs the worse it gets for the Blue Meanies.
But yeah, from a distance, it looks a bit more convincingly Lib Dem than Mid Beds did.0 -
By-elections won in the runup to a general election have a better survival rate than thatrcs1000 said:
Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.0 -
Would be an interesting byelection - lots feels more like a Lib Dem pick up like lots of Surrey where the previously loyal have come to despise the Tories, but just aren't very Laboury. But also contains London suburbs where more people are moving out to. Also of course, Keir Starmer's backyard!rcs1000 said:
Were there to be an election, I would think the LDs would nab it, and some poor non-entity would get to be an MP for a solid four or five months.TimS said:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigate_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Blue wall. Should be a Lib Dem target as Lab and LD neck and neck in 2019 and LDs did very well in locals as well as being comfortably in second place during 2000s. Decent green vote to squeeze too.0 -
We need HYUFD to explain why their candidate selection process is so abysmal.IanB2 said:
And the worst of it is, I clicked the link expecting it to be an east London story from my old patch, but it turns out to be another Tory MP entirely. How many rotten characters do they have?Alanbrooke said:Tory MP arrested on rape charge.
Another by election methinks.
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Wish I could have liked this more!kyf_100 said:
And distantly related to Bertie Blunt, through the Northumbrian Blunts.Alanbrooke said:
His niece is Emily Blunt.Roger said:
I was just thinking of something that rhymed with his name but I couldn't come up with anythingTheScreamingEagles said:Crispin Blunt confirms he is the MP in question.
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