So, does Wagner now politely ask for more supplies of fuel, seeing as they (Prigozhin) wasted a shitload on a seemingly pointless trip to the edge of Moscow?
The excuse reminds me of the American author who was unshakeably convinced of the merits of his libel case, but dropped it because it was Christmas and he felt nice.
Some Western analysts expressed a cautious wait-and-see attitude toward the sudden reversal by the head of the Wagner private military group. “I don’t believe it until I see it,” said Dara Massicot, a senior policy researcher at the RAND Corporation.
This is an interesting lesson. The Wagner guy may have done a deal and turned his tanks around. But know this - @HYUFD will not be such a cowardly custard when he is leading the tank assault on Scotland.
It is disappointing that things do not appear to have come to a head so as to prompt immediate regime change in Moscow. But it is inconceivable that things go back to exactly the way they did before all this happened.
Putin is weaker. The war is on shakier ground. Wagner is potentially split. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counteroffensive continues.
This is an interesting lesson. The Wagner guy may have done a deal and turned his tanks around. But know this - @HYUFD will not be such a cowardly custard when he is leading the tank assault on Scotland.
He'll have the same problem as Wagner.
Instead of encountering mined bridges over the Oka, it will be the Tweed and the Esk.
"Overall in the latest Opinium poll, Labour has made significant gains. Its lead rose from 12 points to 18 over the Tories in the last two weeks. Keir Starmer leads Sunak on who voters see as the best prime minister by 30% to 22%."
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Wagner were a few hours away from a full-blown coup attempt. A deal may have been brokered to back down, but that is different to going back to doing Putin's bidding and waging war in Ukraine.
Russia needed Wagner because losing. So unless Wagner go back to status quo ante, Russia has lost. And even in status quo ante Russia was losing.
So this is good news for Ukraine. Unless Putin pushes the button as his last remaining play.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Okay, how about this theory: Putin and Prigozhin staged this drama to ferret out the traitors in Russia. Have a fake coup and see who gets a hard on, who switches sides, and who starts making phone calls to US/UK. Hey, this whole thing is super surreal and crazy, so why not?
...And even in status quo ante Russia was losing...
Unfortunately not. The lines are effectively congealed. Arguably the Russians are winning (but very, very slowly) and the recent Ukraine counteroffensive have made very, very small advances.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
@PBModerator you managed to attract 2 in 1 day. Impressive.
Prigozhin demands less corruption in the army and more good weapons to be more effective at destroying Ukraine. Now he might get what he wanted. Putin to be more ruthless and give more ammunition to hit Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians celebrated this man today.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Mate, just give it up. Go do something else, like read a book, or play some video games, or go for a walk. You're just wasting your time.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
Prigozhin demands less corruption in the army and more good weapons to be more effective at destroying Ukraine. Now he might get what he wanted. Putin to be more ruthless and give more ammunition to hit Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians celebrated this man today.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Even at £300 an hour she was bound to get tired of him sooner rather than later.
Some thoughts on this whole thing before we go back to Brexit and Trans issues.
1. Famous last words but it seems like we are in the end game of the war in Ukraine. Reading between the lines, it feels like the Ukrainian offensive is picking u some momentum. More to the point though, the Russian forces are irrevocably divided amongst themselves - Wagnerites vs regular army /Kadryovivites. Such a split will mean increasingly distrust / lack of co-operation and therefore less effectiveness. Moreover - and this may be the crucial part - the destruction of a number of helicopters by the Wagnerites is unlikely to be taken well by Russian air support units who might start "accidentally" firing on the Wagnerites.
2. Putin is undoubtedly weakened and is probably on his end game too but bear in mind that, in the days of Communism, when a Supreme Leader left, often it was a Cabal that took over with a single leader taking time to establish themselves (it happened post-Lenin, post-Stalin and post-Khrushchev). If Putin goes, that is the most likely direction. The axis that seems most likely as of now would be Shiogu - Gerasimov - Lavrov, which I think the West would live with. BTW, Shiogu is considered to be non-Russian so it is very unlikely he would be the next Putin.
3. Lukashenko is the one to watch here. As mentioned before, he has no power base in Russia but he has, in the past, seen himself as a potential President of Russia (in combo with Belarus). One scenario, and following 2, is that he is installed as Putin's successor because he has no power base and with the power wielded behind the scenes. If that was combined with a Belarus - Russia merger, that would be....interesting.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Mate, just give it up. Go do something else, like read a book, or play some video games, or go for a walk. You're just wasting your time.
ESPECIALLY seeing as how there's a sudden shortage of Russian cannon fodder at the (UKR) front.
Prigozhin demands less corruption in the army and more good weapons to be more effective at destroying Ukraine. Now he might get what he wanted. Putin to be more ruthless and give more ammunition to hit Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians celebrated this man today.
Riddle me this Riddler. What is the most used English swear word that autocorrect changes to “duck”, what is the 21st letter in the English alphabet and what is the same crude word for a lady’s sexual organ which is also an anagram of the name of a king of both England and Denmark?
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
All?
Every single person?
Rcs sadly you live in a country with a weak leader a man who falls over. I know you are jealous of people in Russia but pleasectry to hide your resentment
It is disappointing that things do not appear to have come to a head so as to prompt immediate regime change in Moscow. But it is inconceivable that things go back to exactly the way they did before all this happened.
Putin is weaker. The war is on shakier ground. Wagner is potentially split. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counteroffensive continues.
We have no idea whether 'immediate regime change' in Russia would be in any way positive. We just don't know. What we can say though is that there isn't any significant support for a western style liberal democracy. The current regime has no succession plan so regime change would just be heading in to the dark with unknown consequences.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
Even by the usual troll standards this bit "All have full confidence in Putin." is particularly stupid.
Not bizarre at all. Offshore Norway they use hydro power from onshore to power some platforms.
That's not the bizarre bit. The bizarre bit is people complaining about that, as though the oil industry are cheating in some way.
Well it is a bit like zero carbon airports that ignore the emissions from the aircraft.
For the avoidance of doubt, for as long as we need hydrocarbons then we should be aiming produce them here, and minimising emissions in their production is a good thing. We also need to minimise emissions in their consumption. For example with CCS.
Some thoughts on this whole thing before we go back to Brexit and Trans issues.
1. Famous last words but it seems like we are in the end game of the war in Ukraine. Reading between the lines, it feels like the Ukrainian offensive is picking u some momentum. More to the point though, the Russian forces are irrevocably divided amongst themselves - Wagnerites vs regular army /Kadryovivites. Such a split will mean increasingly distrust / lack of co-operation and therefore less effectiveness. Moreover - and this may be the crucial part - the destruction of a number of helicopters by the Wagnerites is unlikely to be taken well by Russian air support units who might start "accidentally" firing on the Wagnerites.
2. Putin is undoubtedly weakened and is probably on his end game too but bear in mind that, in the days of Communism, when a Supreme Leader left, often it was a Cabal that took over with a single leader taking time to establish themselves (it happened post-Lenin, post-Stalin and post-Khrushchev). If Putin goes, that is the most likely direction. The axis that seems most likely as of now would be Shiogu - Gerasimov - Lavrov, which I think the West would live with. BTW, Shiogu is considered to be non-Russian so it is very unlikely he would be the next Putin.
3. Lukashenko is the one to watch here. As mentioned before, he has no power base in Russia but he has, in the past, seen himself as a potential President of Russia (in combo with Belarus). One scenario, and following 2, is that he is installed as Putin's successor because he has no power base and with the power wielded behind the scenes. If that was combined with a Belarus - Russia merger, that would be....interesting.
After the death of Lenin it was 1982 before a full Russian next led the Soviet Union. And even then, it was a brief interregnum before another Russo-Ukrainian took over.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
All?
Every single person?
Rcs sadly you live in a country with a weak leader a man who falls over. I know you are jealous of people in Russia but pleasectry to hide your resentment
I suspect RCS is jealous because he really wants to live in a country where the national dish is beetroot soup because most are to poor to afford anything else.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Ah, you're back. How far out of Moscow did you get before you got the news?
Moscow was as normal people out enjoying the day. All have full confidence in Putin. The west needs a strongman like him.
If you think the West abuses the global south when it has weak leaders, surely the last thing you should want would be a strongman?
It is disappointing that things do not appear to have come to a head so as to prompt immediate regime change in Moscow. But it is inconceivable that things go back to exactly the way they did before all this happened.
Putin is weaker. The war is on shakier ground. Wagner is potentially split. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counteroffensive continues.
We have no idea whether 'immediate regime change' in Russia would be in any way positive. We just don't know. What we can say though is that there isn't any significant support for a western style liberal democracy. The current regime has no succession plan so regime change would just be heading in to the dark with unknown consequences.
Better the dark with unknown consequences than daylight with certain terrible consequences.
Now Russia finishes the job in Ukraine and humiliates the west.
Haha. Putin is weaker than ever before. The Lukashenko-Prighozin alliance will ease him out of power. Flabby gollum was too cowardly to even show his face in Moscow til after it was all over.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Mate, just give it up. Go do something else, like read a book, or play some video games, or go for a walk. You're just wasting your time.
This forum has spent 24 hours w.nking over a non coup and you accuse me of wasting my time. Putin played you for suckers again.
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Mate, just give it up. Go do something else, like read a book, or play some video games, or go for a walk. You're just wasting your time.
This forum has spent 24 hours w.nking over a non coup and you accuse me of wasting my time. Putin played you for suckers again.
Well, he has to play with something. And let's face it, he's too small to be sucked.
Prigozhin demands less corruption in the army and more good weapons to be more effective at destroying Ukraine. Now he might get what he wanted. Putin to be more ruthless and give more ammunition to hit Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians celebrated this man today.
Riddle me this Riddler. What is the most used English swear word that autocorrect changes to “duck”, what is the 21st letter in the English alphabet and what is the same crude word for a lady’s sexual organ which is also an anagram of the name of a king of both England and Denmark?
Prigozhin demands less corruption in the army and more good weapons to be more effective at destroying Ukraine. Now he might get what he wanted. Putin to be more ruthless and give more ammunition to hit Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians celebrated this man today.
Riddle me this Riddler. What is the most used English swear word that autocorrect changes to “duck”, what is the 21st letter in the English alphabet and what is the same crude word for a lady’s sexual organ which is also an anagram of the name of a king of both England and Denmark?
I think we all have to agree what an impressive leader Putin is after his behaviour today.
You might have to agree in Russia, but one of the nice things about living in an actual democracy is that we don't have to agree.
You tend to get better (not perfect, but better) decisions that way. Maybe you and your chums should try it.
Here's an example. The government governs badly, it becomes visibly unpopular, we can be confident that it will stop being the government. It's not a perfect system, but it does the job in the end.
Labour makes gains and leads by 18 points
Labour 44% (+3) Conservatives 26% (-3) Lib Dems 8% (-3) SNP 2% (-1) Green 7% (n/c) Reform UK 10% (+3)
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Both of them have duff hands now. The ones holding the best cards are the Ukrainians and any power player in the Kremlin or the Russian Army (if any exist) plotting for regime change.
Cheer up guys excitement is over for the day. Putin is a master of deception and has played an absolute blinder. Hes certainly operating at a level above you guys. Dont you know deception is part of war. Now its back to pulverising ukraines rag tag army. Victory by August.
Mate, just give it up. Go do something else, like read a book, or play some video games, or go for a walk. You're just wasting your time.
This forum has spent 24 hours w.nking over a non coup and you accuse me of wasting my time. Putin played you for suckers again.
Haha. Ukraine is right now breaking through Russian lines because of the clusterf*ck that is Russian military organization. Russian helicopters you can't replace were shot out of the sky. Collapse incoming. Mainly because Russian men are so lacking in virility.
I will be off this gorum soon anyway. A lot of celebrating to be donr tonight. People in the west are stupider than i thought.
And yet you still waste your time on here. Time after time after time. You post your laughable shit, we ban you. You come back and post more laughable shit.
Now Russia finishes the job in Ukraine and humiliates the west.
Haha. Putin is weaker than ever before. The Lukashenko-Prighozin alliance will ease him out of power. Flabby gollum was too cowardly to even show his face in Moscow til after it was all over.
Russia is quite a confusing country but on a domestic level this seems like bad news for Putin's 'strong and stable' image - having a mutiny that could not be put down, with the guy who started it not being arrested or killed.
Some thoughts on this whole thing before we go back to Brexit and Trans issues.
1. Famous last words but it seems like we are in the end game of the war in Ukraine. Reading between the lines, it feels like the Ukrainian offensive is picking u some momentum. More to the point though, the Russian forces are irrevocably divided amongst themselves - Wagnerites vs regular army /Kadryovivites. Such a split will mean increasingly distrust / lack of co-operation and therefore less effectiveness. Moreover - and this may be the crucial part - the destruction of a number of helicopters by the Wagnerites is unlikely to be taken well by Russian air support units who might start "accidentally" firing on the Wagnerites.
2. Putin is undoubtedly weakened and is probably on his end game too but bear in mind that, in the days of Communism, when a Supreme Leader left, often it was a Cabal that took over with a single leader taking time to establish themselves (it happened post-Lenin, post-Stalin and post-Khrushchev). If Putin goes, that is the most likely direction. The axis that seems most likely as of now would be Shiogu - Gerasimov - Lavrov, which I think the West would live with. BTW, Shiogu is considered to be non-Russian so it is very unlikely he would be the next Putin.
3. Lukashenko is the one to watch here. As mentioned before, he has no power base in Russia but he has, in the past, seen himself as a potential President of Russia (in combo with Belarus). One scenario, and following 2, is that he is installed as Putin's successor because he has no power base and with the power wielded behind the scenes. If that was combined with a Belarus - Russia merger, that would be....interesting.
After the death of Lenin it was 1982 before a full Russian next led the Soviet Union. And even then, it was a brief interregnum before another Russo-Ukrainian took over.
Mmmm, that is not true. Khrushchev was Russian -he was born in now what is Russia and his parents were Russian peasants. Brezhnev was born in Ukraine but considered himself Russian although there were questions whether he was Ukrainian or Russian (and, as we see, from the Russian side, they consider the two the same).
In any event, having a non-Russian was fine under Communism given the USSR's structure and declared 'Brotherhood of Man' / unified peoples' schlick (in fact, for the Communists, it was a plus because it showed the minority nations they could have real power and were treated as equals). That is not the case in Russia which is very nationalistic.
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That was pretty dramatic.
And anti-climactic.
No idea what's gone on.
But Russia is a shambles.
Ideally of course it would be both.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/24/new-windfarm-could-be-used-to-power-north-sea-oilfield
Some Western analysts expressed a cautious wait-and-see attitude toward the sudden reversal by the head of the Wagner private military group. “I don’t believe it until I see it,” said Dara Massicot, a senior policy researcher at the RAND Corporation.
Zelensky.
Putin is weaker. The war is on shakier ground. Wagner is potentially split. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian counteroffensive continues.
Interesting,,
Putin has the apparatus of the Russian state to destroy Prigozhin, but without Prigozhin Putin is in deep doodoo.
Instead of encountering mined bridges over the Oka, it will be the Tweed and the Esk.
"Overall in the latest Opinium poll, Labour has made significant gains. Its lead rose from 12 points to 18 over the Tories in the last two weeks. Keir Starmer leads Sunak on who voters see as the best prime minister by 30% to 22%."
Russia needed Wagner because losing. So unless Wagner go back to status quo ante, Russia has lost. And even in status quo ante Russia was losing.
So this is good news for Ukraine. Unless Putin pushes the button as his last remaining play.
When they met, it was moider?
Or are you a hypocrite?
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Nice to see you start off with a parody post.
Every single person?
1. Famous last words but it seems like we are in the end game of the war in Ukraine. Reading between the lines, it feels like the Ukrainian offensive is picking u some momentum. More to the point though, the Russian forces are irrevocably divided amongst themselves - Wagnerites vs regular army /Kadryovivites. Such a split will mean increasingly distrust / lack of co-operation and therefore less effectiveness. Moreover - and this may be the crucial part - the destruction of a number of helicopters by the Wagnerites is unlikely to be taken well by Russian air support units who might start "accidentally" firing on the Wagnerites.
2. Putin is undoubtedly weakened and is probably on his end game too but bear in mind that, in the days of Communism, when a Supreme Leader left, often it was a Cabal that took over with a single leader taking time to establish themselves (it happened post-Lenin, post-Stalin and post-Khrushchev). If Putin goes, that is the most likely direction. The axis that seems most likely as of now would be Shiogu - Gerasimov - Lavrov, which I think the West would live with. BTW, Shiogu is considered to be non-Russian so it is very unlikely he would be the next Putin.
3. Lukashenko is the one to watch here. As mentioned before, he has no power base in Russia but he has, in the past, seen himself as a potential President of Russia (in combo with Belarus). One scenario, and following 2, is that he is installed as Putin's successor because he has no power base and with the power wielded behind the scenes. If that was combined with a Belarus - Russia merger, that would be....interesting.
But don't worry, I've corrected it for you.
The current regime has no succession plan so regime change would just be heading in to the dark with unknown consequences.
For the avoidance of doubt, for as long as we need hydrocarbons then we should be aiming produce them here, and minimising emissions in their production is a good thing. We also need to minimise emissions in their consumption. For example with CCS.
Courtesy of Sunil
You tend to get better (not perfect, but better) decisions that way. Maybe you and your chums should try it.
Little girls don't run like cowards.
I thought better of you than that RP.
Labour makes gains and leads by 18 points
Labour 44% (+3)
Conservatives 26% (-3)
Lib Dems 8% (-3)
SNP 2% (-1)
Green 7% (n/c)
Reform UK 10% (+3)
https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1672681034817626112
If he's such a strong leader, he should be making a statement by now.
Either Prigozhin got everything he wanted, and is now the power behind the throne, or he'll accidentally fall out a window soon.
My guess is the former.
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LAB: 44% (+3)
CON: 26% (-3)
REF: 10% (+3)
LDEM: 8% (-3)
GRN: 7% (-)
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Tory A Team fans please explain
The number of people you have turned? Zero.
In any event, having a non-Russian was fine under Communism given the USSR's structure and declared 'Brotherhood of Man' / unified peoples' schlick (in fact, for the Communists, it was a plus because it showed the minority nations they could have real power and were treated as equals). That is not the case in Russia which is very nationalistic.