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  • Thread aged well then :lol:
    Being released without charge pending further investigation doesn't mean cleared by any means. Indeed, it would be unusual in this kind of fraud case to bring charges immediately. As with Murrell and Beattie (also released without charge) they'll assess the evidence when the investigation is complete and make charging decisions at that point.
  • Sturgeon released without charge pending further investigations.

    A reminder that once someone is charged, Polis Scotland can't question them further, so this may be a drawn out process until charges are laid.
  • theakestheakes Posts: 956
    Ladbrokes have Lib Dems 4-11 on, Cons 9-4 and Labour 12-1 for Mid Bedfordshire
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,571
    kinabalu said:

    No but also yes since Leon is guilty of exactly this. Because I have a soft feminine side that I'm unafraid to show he calls me gay. It's real 70s throwback stuff. Have we *really* come as far as we think? I'm not so sure sometimes.
    Leon rails against woke, and yet was happy to be a drag act polluting our fragile little minds with his deviance.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    "soft feminine side" ≠ gay

    deployment of lazy stereotypes = cancellation :smile:
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,351
    Good evening, everyone.

    Just a flying visit, but quite the tumultous couple of days, with the imbecile's resignation and Sturgeon's arrest.

    Hopefully the Ukrainians manage to make significant headway.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    ....
    Scott_xP said:

    @christiancalgie
    💥huge shock as Paul Scully fails to make the shortlist for Tory London mayor.

    Final three are Dan Korski, Susan Hall and Mozammel Hossain.

    Rishi scared of another by-election if Scully had won?

    @christopherhope
    This is a major shock. Paul Scully was a key Boris Johnson supporter.
    One Conservative MP close to Johnson tells me this is further evidence of a purge of Johnson supporters from a chance of getting a top job.

    In all honesty I suspect Scully was left off the list principally because he's an enormous knobend.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,038

    ....

    In all honesty I suspect Scully was left off the list principally because he's an enormous knobend.
    Someone should do a Venn diagram of Johnson supporters and enormous knobends... ;)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    .
    Cicero said:

    FWIW, Reports of several significant Ukrainian advances along several axes. One looks like either a flanking movement on Donetsk or advance towards Mariupol, potentially both. Russian rail supply lines are down and when caught in the open, Russian forces have tended to disperse.

    Not a cake walk by any means and significant Ukrainian loses are reported, but the momentum is looking positive for the ZSU.

    Ukraine just conducted 2 crucial sabotage actions far behind enemy lines.

    A railway bridge was blown up in Yakymivka, stopping freight between Crimea and Zaporizhzhia.

    The only railway line leading to the Crimean bridge was also blown up in the Krimovsky district

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1667915595608645634
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,850

    Someone should do a Venn diagram of Johnson supporters and enormous knobends... ;)
    sigh -this website was known once for its quality of debate and contributions
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    Grain train on non-electrified spur from Rossosh, Voronezh region, derails.

    Meanwhile, the 12 Rail Traction (Sub) Stations on the Liski-Rostov line & their multi-million-dollar transformers (which burn easily) remain untouched.

    This is the 🇷🇺 rail GLOC supplying the war in 🇺🇦!

    https://twitter.com/BruckenRuski/status/1667752664887705601
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,212

    sigh -this website was known once for its quality of debate and contributions
    Lead by example not meta commentary then.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Courthouse News Service - [US] Justices turn down ex-Trump official vying to join Mississippi commissioner race

    It's not enough to be born and bred in the Magnolia State; you have to have lived there for the last five years to run for certain types of office.

    The Supreme Court declined Friday to help a former Trump official skirt procedural hurdles keeping her from joining the Republican primary ballot for Mississippi public service commissioner.

    Mississippi’s public service commission has three members that are elected every four years from three districts. Those commissioners are required to be a citizen of Mississippi for five years before the general election.

    Amanda Gunasekara wanted to run for a seat on the commission but was blocked because of her tenure working for the federal government in Washington. She asked the high court for emergency relief. The application — submitted to Justice Samuel Alito and referred to the full court — was denied this morning without an explanation. There were no noted dissents.

    Born and raised in Mississippi, Gunasekara made the decision to move north to the nation's capital in 2010 after graduating from law school. Gunasekara began work in Congress — first in the House of Representatives and then the Senate — but ended up at the Environmental Protection Agency under the Trump administration.

    For eight years Gunasekara resided in Washington. While she says she never considered the city her home, she had no concrete plans to return to Mississippi during that time until the summer of 2018. Her parents purchased a home for her near their farm in Decatur, but she remained in Washington — even voting in the city for a friend running for an advisory neighborhood committee. . . .

    Gunasekara announced her intention to run for a position on the commission in 2022, only to have her qualifications come into question through a challenge from Matthew Barton, a candidate for Desoto district attorney.

    The Executive Committee of the Mississippi Republican Party initially denied Barton’s contest, certifying Gunasekara as a candidate, but a state court that reviewed the matter opted to disqualify her. The court found Gunasekara had maintained her Washington residence on Nov. 18, 2018 — the date she’d need to have be a Mississippi resident to meet the commissioner residency requirement.

    The Mississippi Supreme Court affirmed Gunasekara’s disqualification without tackling her claim that the state-law residency requirement violated the 14th Amendment. . . . .

    Gunasekara argues the five-year citizen requirement should not bar her from running for office because she lived in the state for over two decades prior to her Washington residency. . . .

    The list of qualified candidates for commissioner is given to the state secretary of state on Friday, and the sample primary ballot is published on June 19.

    https://www.courthousenews.com/justices-turn-down-ex-trump-official-vying-to-join-mississippi-commissioner-race/
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,650

    Courthouse News Service - [US] Justices turn down ex-Trump official vying to join Mississippi commissioner race

    It's not enough to be born and bred in the Magnolia State; you have to have lived there for the last five years to run for certain types of office.

    The Supreme Court declined Friday to help a former Trump official skirt procedural hurdles keeping her from joining the Republican primary ballot for Mississippi public service commissioner.

    Mississippi’s public service commission has three members that are elected every four years from three districts. Those commissioners are required to be a citizen of Mississippi for five years before the general election.

    Amanda Gunasekara wanted to run for a seat on the commission but was blocked because of her tenure working for the federal government in Washington. She asked the high court for emergency relief. The application — submitted to Justice Samuel Alito and referred to the full court — was denied this morning without an explanation. There were no noted dissents.

    Born and raised in Mississippi, Gunasekara made the decision to move north to the nation's capital in 2010 after graduating from law school. Gunasekara began work in Congress — first in the House of Representatives and then the Senate — but ended up at the Environmental Protection Agency under the Trump administration.

    For eight years Gunasekara resided in Washington. While she says she never considered the city her home, she had no concrete plans to return to Mississippi during that time until the summer of 2018. Her parents purchased a home for her near their farm in Decatur, but she remained in Washington — even voting in the city for a friend running for an advisory neighborhood committee. . . .

    Gunasekara announced her intention to run for a position on the commission in 2022, only to have her qualifications come into question through a challenge from Matthew Barton, a candidate for Desoto district attorney.

    The Executive Committee of the Mississippi Republican Party initially denied Barton’s contest, certifying Gunasekara as a candidate, but a state court that reviewed the matter opted to disqualify her. The court found Gunasekara had maintained her Washington residence on Nov. 18, 2018 — the date she’d need to have be a Mississippi resident to meet the commissioner residency requirement.

    The Mississippi Supreme Court affirmed Gunasekara’s disqualification without tackling her claim that the state-law residency requirement violated the 14th Amendment. . . . .

    Gunasekara argues the five-year citizen requirement should not bar her from running for office because she lived in the state for over two decades prior to her Washington residency. . . .

    The list of qualified candidates for commissioner is given to the state secretary of state on Friday, and the sample primary ballot is published on June 19.

    https://www.courthousenews.com/justices-turn-down-ex-trump-official-vying-to-join-mississippi-commissioner-race/

    Denied the power,
    Republican's dreams shattered,
    Mississippi weeps.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,734
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    I am reminded of this:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i6wu81BEVBI
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,946
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    Democrat?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,373
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    If memory serves me right you used it as an insult on more than one occasion.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    edited June 2023

    Someone should do a Venn diagram of Johnson supporters and enormous knobends... ;)
    Deleted on the grounds of peer group plagiarism.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,255
    Rob Ford on how Johnson was never that popular, and became less popular: https://swingometer.substack.com/p/hes-not-the-messiah-hes-a-very-naughty
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,650
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    Leon's words wander,
    Muddled tales and lost landmarks,
    Travel guide gone wrong.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,255
    DougSeal said:

    Leon's words wander,
    Muddled tales and lost landmarks,
    Travel guide gone wrong.
    Are you using ChatGPT or some marine equivalent?
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,723
    Scott_xP said:
    Sturgeon: I know beyond doubt that I am in fact innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Quite surprised to see Nicola copying Boris's homework.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,650

    Are you using ChatGPT or some marine equivalent?
    AI pens with grace,
    Haiku blooms from lines of code,
    Words crafted with care.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,850
    kle4 said:

    Lead by example not meta commentary then.
    nobody can get a sensible word in edgeways between your "gay" debate with Leon and ridiculous juvenile venn diagrams that would look silly in a school playground
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,373
    Leon said:

    A devastating critique. I’m actually thinking of retiring from PB now you’ve said that. You don’t know the power of your words
    I'm sorry to hear that and apologise if I have hurt your feelings, but sometimes one needs to hear the truth :wink:

    In fairness though you did manage to respond that time with sarcasm rather than suggesting I was boring, gay or stupid so maybe you are learning.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    DougSeal said:

    Denied the power,
    Republican's dreams shattered,
    Mississippi weeps.
    Hardly shattered. As per Ballotpedia:

    Mississippi Public Service Commission - Northern District

    No candidates filed for the Democratic Party primary.

    Republican Party Primary candidates:
    Chris Brown
    Tanner Newman
    Did not make the ballot: Mandy Gunasekara

    https://ballotpedia.org/Mississippi_state_executive_official_elections,_2023
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,252
    edited June 2023

    Sturgeon: I know beyond doubt that I am in fact innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Quite surprised to see Nicola copying Boris's homework.
    They’re both rather similar in their whiny self-righteousness.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,650

    Hardly shattered. As per Ballotpedia:

    Mississippi Public Service Commission - Northern District

    No candidates filed for the Democratic Party primary.

    Republican Party Primary candidates:
    Chris Brown
    Tanner Newman
    Did not make the ballot: Mandy Gunasekara

    https://ballotpedia.org/Mississippi_state_executive_official_elections,_2023
    Oh, Mandy
    Well, you came and you gave without taking
    But I sent you away
    Oh, Mandy
    Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
    And I need you today
    Oh, Mandy
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,571

    Sturgeon: I know beyond doubt that I am in fact innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Quite surprised to see Nicola copying Boris's homework.
    Nippy planning to fight on using the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    edited June 2023

    Here's that Venn diagram.


    I’m sure there exist enormous knobends who are not Johnson supporters, so that needs redrawing.

    A smaller circle within the large one would do it.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,204
    edited June 2023
    Ch4 now.

    A bloke with a turban justifying his own honour and the one for Boris Johnson's hairdresser.

    It's hilarious!!
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Sturgeon: I know beyond doubt that I am in fact innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Quite surprised to see Nicola copying Boris's homework.
    You know I detest Sturgeon beyond almost all politicians for her political beliefs but on this particular matter I think I believe her.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,228
    felix said:

    You know I detest Sturgeon beyond almost all politicians for her political beliefs but on this particular matter I think I believe her.
    Her wording is strange “I know BEYOND DOUBT that I am IN FACT innocent of ANY WRONGDOING”

    Straining for effect. She’s guilty as fuck
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,252

    Nippy planning to fight on using the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play
    Nah, she doesn’t do British.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Nippy planning to fight on using the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play
    OR rather that old Scot's standby - "Not Proven".
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661

    Sturgeon: I know beyond doubt that I am in fact innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Quite surprised to see Nicola copying Boris's homework.
    A new chapter to David Owen’s book In Sickness and in Power is clearly required.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,228
    I’d just like to point out that I am so gay I just escootered past the enormous Pride flag hanging off the great erection that is the Washington Monument
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,723
    felix said:

    You know I detest Sturgeon beyond almost all politicians for her political beliefs but on this particular matter I think I believe her.
    Yes, so do I. I was merely being whimsical; it isn't a great sentence. I am convinced of my innocence would have sufficed.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,934
    edited June 2023
    Re; the mention of Nick Pope, although a bureaucrat-outsider compared to Grusch, and often tending to the somewhat more skeptical side, even he is "bigging up" the David Grusch story today.

    There's apparently another interview on the way.

    https://twitter.com/nickpopemod/status/1667905338178420736

    "Today is a huge day for the UFO community."
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073
    HA!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,144

    nobody can get a sensible word in edgeways between your "gay" debate with Leon and ridiculous juvenile venn diagrams that would look silly in a school playground
    What, you're getting a 'server busy, please try again later' message?

    Or can you in fact post any comments you want on PB whenever you want?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    after paying Dominion $780M Fox now has to cut off Trump and live fact check him about his election fraud lies
    https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1667641303918604290
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,734

    Here's that Venn diagram.


    I hear they speak very highly of you.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Farooq said:

    Why? What facts do you actually know?
    Not a single one. Mainly I just don't see it as her style and the sums involved are all a bit petty to sacrifice an entire and very successful career for. Happy to be proven wrong.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Leon said:

    Her wording is strange “I know BEYOND DOUBT that I am IN FACT innocent of ANY WRONGDOING”

    Straining for effect. She’s guilty as fuck
    What do you know gay boy? 🤣😂😀
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    Just a reminder, this is the guy that delayed publication of the Mueller report, and downplayed its significance, allowing Trump months to attack it unchallenged, thus saving his bacon.

    Bill Barr: "Battle plans for an attack on another country or Defense Department documents about our capabilities are in no universe Donald J. Trump's personal documents."
    https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1667889853810311172
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,650
    Leon said:

    I’d just like to point out that I am so gay I just escootered past the enormous Pride flag hanging off the great erection that is the Washington Monument

    Quick roundup of today's gayness, starting with the roads: The M70, the A3, the B664 and the A48(M), they are all gay as of midnight tonight. The gay elements are potassium, zinc, hydrogen, copper, and argon. A quick look at the world's walls: The Wailing Wall is gay, Hadrian's Wall is very gay, the Great Wall Of China, that's not gay, and the Old London Wall has also stopped being gay. Gay cars next, they're the same as last night: all Volkswagens registered between 1982 and 1985, they stay gay for another fortnight. And finally, the gay seas are the Caspian and the Mediterranean... so, see you there.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,956
    "In Georgia, at the Republican state convention, Kari Lake, who refused to concede the Arizona election for governor in 2022 and who is an ardent defender of Mr. Trump, emphasized that many of Mr. Trump’s supporters owned guns.

    “I have a message tonight for Merrick Garland and Jack Smith and Joe Biden — and the guys back there in the fake news media, you should listen up as well, this one is for you,” Ms. Lake said. “If you want to get to President Trump, you are going to have go through me, and you are going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me. And I’m going to tell you, most of us are card-carrying members of the N.R.A.” "

    NY Times
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    Leon said:

    So: please explain the behaviour of multiple senior members of the entire US Establishment, from Obama down. Generals, senators, CIA heads, the head of NASA, top NYT journalists, airforce commanders, navy admirals - they are all saying “this is a real mystery. It’s not just balloons. Something is up there”

    And now the whistleblower

    How do you explain all THAT?

    I completely agree the actual evidence (photos, videos) is pitifully weak
    Our ancestors would have been unlikely to have had difficulty coming to terms with the idea that there is stuff going on in the world that has no explanation. But we seem determined to explain everything with our existing scientific worldview and have become intolerant of any degree of mystery. A lot of what a 'genes eye' view of evolution does is provide an easy explanation for everything, it cannot account for flying objects that defy the laws of physics, so people then panic and pivot to the other extreme: it must be aliens!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    Leon said:

    I’d just like to point out that I am so gay I just escootered past the enormous Pride flag hanging off the great erection that is the Washington Monument

    Is "escootering" an act of sexual deviance that I am yet to learn about?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,228
    Farooq said:

    Can you stop? Please.
    I am now immersed in rococo art
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073
    "Pride" seems a bit calmer and lower key this year than in recent ones; far less in your face.

    Maybe the corps got the memo.
  • CorrectHorseBatCorrectHorseBat Posts: 1,761

    "Pride" seems a bit calmer and lower key this year than in recent ones; far less in your face.

    Maybe the corps got the memo.

    Don't go to John Lewis.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    Leon said:

    I am now immersed in rococo art
    Rococo Art. Is she a really game girl from Laguna Beach?
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,520
    darkage said:

    Our ancestors would have been unlikely to have had difficulty coming to terms with the idea that there is stuff going on in the world that has no explanation. But we seem determined to explain everything with our existing scientific worldview and have become intolerant of any degree of mystery. A lot of what a 'genes eye' view of evolution does is provide an easy explanation for everything, it cannot account for flying objects that defy the laws of physics, so people then panic and pivot to the other extreme: it must be aliens!
    Every bit of “inexplicable” footage we’ve seen so far has been explained as either lens flares or some other artifact.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,461
    John Rentoul not impressed with Sturgeon’s statement:

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1667954628552544256
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    If in 2019 after the GE you would have told me the Tories would collapse, Boris was out of the HoC and Sturgeon was helping the police with their enquiries I would not have believed you.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073
    Jonathan said:

    If in 2019 after the GE you would have told me the Tories would collapse, Boris was out of the HoC and Sturgeon was helping the police with their enquiries I would not have believed you.

    Which is a sobering warning for those lauding the coming of the 30 year Starmer reich.

    You can be certain the political landscape will look very different in four years time.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,946

    Rococo Art. Is she a really game girl from Laguna Beach?
    "Game" or "on the game"?
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,085
    Fingers crossed, with all the political drama this weekend, Ukraine look to be gaining momentum. I’ve no idea what response- if any - Putin has, but precarious times
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,038
    Roger said:

    Ch4 now.

    A bloke with a turban justifying his own honour and the one for Boris Johnson's hairdresser.

    It's hilarious!!

    There's a chance that a nasty wrong occurs here.

    As far as I can tell, Kelly Dodge has been a hairdresser in parliament for many decades. She may have done Boris's haircuts, but she'll have done many, many others. A fair few backroom staff in parliament have had honours in the past.

    Just because Boris wanted her honoured, doesn't make the honour automatically bad.

    Here's a recent article about her.

    "Dodge started cutting hair in her summer holidays when she left school and “ended up staying” in the trade. After a brief stint hairdressing aboard cruise ships, she ended up in a salon in Hampstead. It was this salon that successfully applied to be Parliament’s first unisex hairdressers, and again, having moved into Westminster, Dodge ended up staying. She has now been working in Parliament for 27 years. "

    “If you’re a prime minister or if you’re a cleaner, I’ll treat you the same,” she says. “That’s what I think makes it work in here.”"

    https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/parly-do-parliaments-hairdressers-institution
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,491
    Leon said:

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have experimented with gayness and have openly admitted to being on the BDSM scene (D if you must know) - hence my spotting The Necklace

    The idea I would think “gay” is an insult is absurd. I’d be insulting myself

    The fact is I do pride myself in spotting personal traits and you made the odd ambiguous remark and I thought I’d test the waters and see if you had a gay side. Turns out you do. That’s it. That’s all it is. Get over yourself
    Ok. It did reek of 70s throwback attitudes but your convoluted and fishy sounding explanation is warily accepted.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,228
    Phil said:

    Every bit of “inexplicable” footage we’ve seen so far has been explained as either lens flares or some other artifact.
    Not sure that’s true. The Calvine photo remains unexplained. Likewise the tic-tac. And a couple of others

    However it is an extraordinarily meagre haul if the world really is littered with crashed alien spacecraft

    The disconnect between what really senior officials are saying and what we are seeing is one of the most bizarre aspects of this whole bizarre story
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,845
    DougSeal said:

    Quick roundup of today's gayness, starting with the roads: The M70, the A3, the B664 and the A48(M), they are all gay as of midnight tonight. The gay elements are potassium, zinc, hydrogen, copper, and argon. A quick look at the world's walls: The Wailing Wall is gay, Hadrian's Wall is very gay, the Great Wall Of China, that's not gay, and the Old London Wall has also stopped being gay. Gay cars next, they're the same as last night: all Volkswagens registered between 1982 and 1985, they stay gay for another fortnight. And finally, the gay seas are the Caspian and the Mediterranean... so, see you there.
    The Straights of Gibraltar, Bosporus and Dardanelles would vehemently disagree
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073
    rcs1000 said:

    I don't think very many people are actually looking forward to a Starmer administration. I think they mostly just think it's time for a change.
    That's exactly what it is. And, once that change takes place, they will rapidly turn their ire on it.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,723
    Jonathan said:

    If in 2019 after the GE you would have told me the Tories would collapse, Boris was out of the HoC and Sturgeon was helping the police with their enquiries I would not have believed you.

    Every single leader of a 'significant' GB party (including PC, Greens, Change UK, Brexit Party) that stood in GE 2019 has now resigned or been removed. I think a couple in NI are still around (SF and Alliance). It's quite an extraordinary change in a mere four years.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    rcs1000 said:

    "Game" or "on the game"?
    With Leon's well documented back story she could be the one or the other. But now you mention it, with a name like Rococo Art I am minded towards a transgender convert hooker.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,491
    Nigelb said:

    Former Trump AG Bill Barr on Trump's federal indictment: "If even half of it is true, then he's toast. I mean, it's a very detailed indictment, and it's very, very damning. This idea of presenting Trump as a victim here -- a victim of a witch hunt -- is ridiculous."
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1667896395804622848

    There's a certain Federal establishment he's more likely to be 'rooming' in than the White House imo.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,038

    Which is a sobering warning for those lauding the coming of the 30 year Starmer reich.

    You can be certain the political landscape will look very different in four years time.
    I'm probably going to vote Labour. Not through any love of Starmer, as I don't think he'll be a good MP, but because the current Conservative Party is barely functional and has run out of any positive ideas. I actually prefer Sunak to Starmer.

    And yes, the political landscape will look very different in four years time. But 'different' does not preclude 'better'.

    (The Lib Dems are probably out as they're running the local council poorly. My actual vote will depend on the Labour and Lib Dem candidates at election time.)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661

    One can tell this is a site predominantly manned by earnest academics, when a gag is marked and corrected for its factual rather than comedic value.
    The college which sent me down, twice, would be amused by the description of earnest academic.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,038

    Every single leader of a 'significant' GB party (including PC, Greens, Change UK, Brexit Party) that stood in GE 2019 has now resigned or been removed. I think a couple in NI are still around (SF and Alliance). It's quite an extraordinary change in a mere four years.
    Wasn't there a time post-2016 when it looked as though every major party could have a female leader? And Labour was the only exception?
  • CorrectHorseBatCorrectHorseBat Posts: 1,761

    Which is a sobering warning for those lauding the coming of the 30 year Starmer reich.

    You can be certain the political landscape will look very different in four years time.
    I am currently betting on the assumption Labour is in power for 5 years the max
  • WestieWestie Posts: 426


    Phillips P. OBrien
    @PhillipsPOBrien
    ·
    53m
    Sometimes we need to take a breath and realize what we are seeing here. The Ukrainians, using NATO equipment for only a few months, and without air superiority, are trying (and maybe succeeding) in driving back what was considered to be one of the world's greatest militaries.

    The Vietcong and the Taliban won without NATO equipment.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,845

    There's a chance that a nasty wrong occurs here.

    As far as I can tell, Kelly Dodge has been a hairdresser in parliament for many decades. She may have done Boris's haircuts, but she'll have done many, many others. A fair few backroom staff in parliament have had honours in the past.

    Just because Boris wanted her honoured, doesn't make the honour automatically bad.

    Here's a recent article about her.

    "Dodge started cutting hair in her summer holidays when she left school and “ended up staying” in the trade. After a brief stint hairdressing aboard cruise ships, she ended up in a salon in Hampstead. It was this salon that successfully applied to be Parliament’s first unisex hairdressers, and again, having moved into Westminster, Dodge ended up staying. She has now been working in Parliament for 27 years. "

    “If you’re a prime minister or if you’re a cleaner, I’ll treat you the same,” she says. “That’s what I think makes it work in here.”"

    https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/parly-do-parliaments-hairdressers-institution
    To be fair, to be in the H of L being Dodge is a great qualification.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,430

    I am currently betting on the assumption Labour is in power for 5 years the max
    It all depends on the economy, if Starmer and Reeves run it well like Blair and Brown did in their first 2 terms then they will likely be re elected. If not, and inflation and cost of living remains high, taxes go up and there are still frequent strikes, the likelihood is they may well lose office
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    DougSeal said:

    Oh, Mandy
    Well, you came and you gave without taking
    But I sent you away
    Oh, Mandy
    Well, you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
    And I need you today
    Oh, Mandy
    Don't cry for me, Mississippi
    The truth is, I really left you
    All through my Trump days
    My MAGA existence
    I was more than willing
    To keep my distance
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    Westie said:

    The Vietcong and the Taliban won without NATO equipment.
    The Vietcong and the Taliban were on the other side of the world from the armies they defeated.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,729
    darkage said:

    Our ancestors would have been unlikely to have had difficulty coming to terms with the idea that there is stuff going on in the world that has no explanation. But we seem determined to explain everything with our existing scientific worldview and have become intolerant of any degree of mystery. A lot of what a 'genes eye' view of evolution does is provide an easy explanation for everything, it cannot account for flying objects that defy the laws of physics, so people then panic and pivot to the other extreme: it must be aliens!
    They had explanations - but not ones widely accepted today.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,723

    That's exactly what it is. And, once that change takes place, they will rapidly turn their ire on it.
    Some people aren't even waiting for the change to take place before they turn their ire on this appalling Labour government.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,793
    rcs1000 said:

    I don't think very many people are actually looking forward to a Starmer administration. I think they mostly just think it's time for a change.

    May, Johnson, Truss and to date, Sunak have underwhelmed to such an extent he doesn't have to be particularly overwhelming to appear to be vastly better than his predecessors
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,411
    Leon said:

    Not sure that’s true. The Calvine photo remains unexplained. Likewise the tic-tac. And a couple of others

    However it is an extraordinarily meagre haul if the world really is littered with crashed alien spacecraft

    The disconnect between what really senior officials are saying and what we are seeing is one of the most bizarre aspects of this whole bizarre story
    Calvine would be more impressive if there were the alleged other photos to see plus the negatives and the two chefs who allegedly took the shots.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,430


    Phillips P. OBrien
    @PhillipsPOBrien
    ·
    53m
    Sometimes we need to take a breath and realize what we are seeing here. The Ukrainians, using NATO equipment for only a few months, and without air superiority, are trying (and maybe succeeding) in driving back what was considered to be one of the world's greatest militaries.

    True, albeit it must be remembered the Ukraine military is not small either. Even before the Russian invasion Ukraine had the third highest number of active troops in Europe after Russia and Turkey
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,070
    kinabalu said:

    Ok. It did reek of 70s throwback attitudes but your convoluted and fishy sounding explanation is warily accepted.
    When I riffle through my immaculately curated memory banks Istr Leon's experiments with gayness consisted of a pal begging him to put it up his bum but he just couldn't get lead in his Staedtler. I accept this is a worthy attempt but it's hardly Querelle of Brest.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073

    I'm probably going to vote Labour. Not through any love of Starmer, as I don't think he'll be a good MP, but because the current Conservative Party is barely functional and has run out of any positive ideas. I actually prefer Sunak to Starmer.

    And yes, the political landscape will look very different in four years time. But 'different' does not preclude 'better'.

    (The Lib Dems are probably out as they're running the local council poorly. My actual vote will depend on the Labour and Lib Dem candidates at election time.)
    And, if you do, you'll be making a big mistake.

    Like many others, you'll look back on the last 24 months of administration under Sunak and realise it was much better and your vote was purely a process of catharsis and not a rational one.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,204

    There's a chance that a nasty wrong occurs here.

    As far as I can tell, Kelly Dodge has been a hairdresser in parliament for many decades. She may have done Boris's haircuts, but she'll have done many, many others. A fair few backroom staff in parliament have had honours in the past.

    Just because Boris wanted her honoured, doesn't make the honour automatically bad.

    Here's a recent article about her.

    "Dodge started cutting hair in her summer holidays when she left school and “ended up staying” in the trade. After a brief stint hairdressing aboard cruise ships, she ended up in a salon in Hampstead. It was this salon that successfully applied to be Parliament’s first unisex hairdressers, and again, having moved into Westminster, Dodge ended up staying. She has now been working in Parliament for 27 years. "

    “If you’re a prime minister or if you’re a cleaner, I’ll treat you the same,” she says. “That’s what I think makes it work in here.”"

    https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/parly-do-parliaments-hairdressers-institution
    That is the harrowing tale of nearly every hairdresser who made a career out of hairdressing.

    Get a grip!

    He'll be giving a title to his wife's dog walker next.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661


    Phillips P. OBrien
    @PhillipsPOBrien
    ·
    53m
    Sometimes we need to take a breath and realize what we are seeing here. The Ukrainians, using NATO equipment for only a few months, and without air superiority, are trying (and maybe succeeding) in driving back what was considered to be one of the world's greatest militaries.

    Note that, outside of the US, there’s no NATO member with the capacity to undertake such a combined arms operation.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,073

    I am currently betting on the assumption Labour is in power for 5 years the max
    To be honest, I really don't know what's going to happen.

    All I know is that nothing is certain and you simply can't just take today's trends and extrapolate them confidently into the future.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,715
    felix said:

    Not a single one. Mainly I just don't see it as her style and the sums involved are all a bit petty to sacrifice an entire and very successful career for. Happy to be proven wrong.
    All she needs now is to announce that she is suing for slander and will be vindicated by the sword of truth.

    The facts that are know defy rational explanation. Other than, say, Nicola Sturgeon is actually Graf von Schwabing, hired by MI6 to discredit… herself.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,869

    To be honest, being known as having been Boris Johnson’s hairdresser wouldn’t be the best business recommendation you could have.

    Tbf it takes skill to make it look that intentionally dishevelled.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,430
    Scott_xP said:

    @christiancalgie
    💥huge shock as Paul Scully fails to make the shortlist for Tory London mayor.

    Final three are Dan Korski, Susan Hall and Mozammel Hossain.

    Rishi scared of another by-election if Scully had won?

    @christopherhope
    This is a major shock. Paul Scully was a key Boris Johnson supporter.
    One Conservative MP close to Johnson tells me this is further evidence of a purge of Johnson supporters from a chance of getting a top job.

    So no Scully and no Boff, instead 3 candidates not even I as a Tory activist have heard of, let alone the average Londoner.

    Do CCHQ just want to give Sadiq Khan his re election next year as Mayor of London on a plate?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,661
    Westie said:

    The Vietcong and the Taliban won without NATO equipment.
    Had Russia occupied Ukraine, it would have been a similar story.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,715
    WillG said:

    The Vietcong and the Taliban were on the other side of the world from the armies they defeated.
    The Vietcong got blown to tiny fragments. This was fairly deliberate policy on the part of the Hanoi regime - getting rid of potential opposition on their own side.

    It was the North Vietnamese Army that won the war. Backed a very large quantity of Soviet equipment.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Westie said:

    The Vietcong and the Taliban won without NATO equipment.
    Don't believe that's correct, esp. for VC who often used ARVN, USA, etc as their quartermaster corps.

    As for Taliban, reckon they had/have access to weapons, ammo, etc. shipped to Mujahadin (sp) in 1980s by US, for example via congressional subcommittee run by then-US Rep. Charlie Wilson.

    "Charlie Wilson's War" - fascinating book unfortunately turned into pretty crap movie.

    BTW, when in House chamber, Wilson sat next to Barbara Jordan; they knew each other from serving together in Texas legislature.

    Talk about your Odd Couple!

    Though Wilson WAS a fighting liberal AND a fighting hawk; also a real hell-raiser in more ways than one.
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