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malcolmg said:

GIN1138 said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

True, and from all accounts he does not seem a particularly likeable human being.

There is also something distasteful about a much older man who had direct authority over his 'lover' having such an affair. Yes, it happened in the past but that didn't make it right.

Having said that, just leave him alone now. He has admitted it, his career is in ruins.

Indeed! Lets hope it doesn't end up in another Caroline Flack type tragedy...

He is a jumped up fcukwit, a vain pompous clown. He deserves all he gets.

HYUFD said:

Tories surge ahead of Labour in Bluewall southern seats in new Redfield poll.

The Tories are now on 40% in the Bluewall with Labour on 34% and the LDs 22% and Sunak leads Starmer by a big 10% margin as preferred PM, a 3% swing from Starmer to Sunak since the last poll. The poll was taken after Sir Keir said he would push for more developments in the greenbelt while Sunak's government has abandoned housing targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12125185/Conservatives-surge-ahead-Labour-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html

Peter_the_Punter said:

kle4 said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

Took a gamble oscore n the EU and lost, not targeted enough on some cuts, and some other stuff, but if you set the EU stuff to one side (he did tell us not to do it), he was decent. I appreciate most cannot put it aside.

I liked him, but when you look at record he has to finish fairly well down the league table.

He has to take a large chunk of responsibility for the Great EU FU. He did of course score some wins. Gay Marriage will go down to his eternal credit, but generally he was a bit 'meh' at best.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

David Cameron could not have been one of our greatest Prime Ministers. It is not even a matter of screw-ups. In his time as LotO, the Conservatives were working for years on new policies so they could hit the ground running, yet when it came to it, no-one in the Cabinet knew WTF Lansley was up to with his NHS changes, and IDS's Universal Benefit was undermined by the Chancellor.

Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. He lost Europe. He almost lost Scotland.

malcolmg said:

Pagan2 said:

CorrectHorseBat said:

Pagan2 said:

Farooq said:

I havent claimed to be the top 90% is one of my all-time favourite self owns. I really, honestly laughed out loud.

because you are a drooling idiot your village is wondering where you are

Can I be up next, use your best insult

We have traded insults back and forth....when I have ever claimed though that I am more intelligent than most or earn more than most or richer than most. How does that suddenly translate into claiming I am not in the top 90% to indicate that I am higher than that? Which is what the other poster is implying. Yes more politically aware than most and I think that applies to most that post here because the majority of the country never thinks about politics.

Sorry not to call you anything and disappoint you

Dear Dear is it attack Pagan day

DecrepiterJohnL said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

David Cameron could not have been one of our greatest Prime Ministers. It is not even a matter of screw-ups. In his time as LotO, the Conservatives were working for years on new policies so they could hit the ground running, yet when it came to it, no-one in the Cabinet knew WTF Lansley was up to with his NHS changes, and IDS's Universal Benefit was undermined by the Chancellor.

Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. He lost Europe. He almost lost Scotland.

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

Peter_the_Punter said:

Casino_Royale said:

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.

The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.

Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.

HYUFD said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Casino_Royale said:

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.

The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.

Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.

Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher

HYUFD said:

DougSeal said:

HYUFD said:

Tories surge ahead of Labour in Bluewall southern seats in new Redfield poll.

The Tories are now on 40% in the Bluewall with Labour on 34% and the LDs 22% and Sunak leads Starmer by a big 10% margin as preferred PM, a 3% swing from Starmer to Sunak since the last poll. The poll was taken after Sir Keir said he would push for more developments in the greenbelt while Sunak's government has abandoned housing targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12125185/Conservatives-surge-ahead-Labour-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html

You do realise these are seat Labour came third in last time, right?

Not all, they include seats like Wycombe, Cities of London and Westminster and Watford where Labour are the main challengers and the LDs had high hopes of taking many of them too

turbotubbs said:

kle4 said:

FF43 said:

Jeremy Hunt proposing to use GP surgery patients to test drugs and fund the health service.

Patients are cheaper than rats apparently.

https://twitter.com/alanvibe/status/1662007863336747008

Those against animal testing would probably be supportive of that idea. Who cares about humans anyway?

I don’t imagine patients will be compelled to take part, any more than they are now.

LostPassword said:

Farooq said:

PadTheHoundsman said:

I do wish this old canard of the Royals being a drain on the public purse would be put to rest. If the Crown's private income were taxed like anyone else and the Crown were left to pay for its own upkeep, it would generate far LESS for the government than currently, since ALL the Crown's income goes straight to the Exchequer and only a fraction of it is drawn out for running costs - i.e. the Sovereign Grant. The funding for the Sovereign Grant is about 15% of the profits from the Crown Estate. Essentially the Crown pays 85% tax!.

Can we please stop telling lies about the Crown's 'cost'. The Crown costs us nothing.

The Crown Estate should be nationalised. Then we could keep all the profits.

The Crown Estate *is* nationalised. Has been for centuries. Osborne's settlement to hand over 15% to the royals was absurdly generous at the time, and even more so that the Crown Estate is raking it in from offshore wind power.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Just when you thought the Post Office scandal couldn't get any worse.

Post Office admits racism after calling suspects ‘negroid types’

Investigators in the Horizon IT scandal were given a list of classifications for postmasters who ended up being wrongly prosecuted

The Post Office told its fraud investigators to racially classify potential suspects, including “negroid types”, during the company’s false prosecution spree.

It later apologised and admitted that the “unacceptable” language, contained in guidance published between 2008 and 2011, was “racist”.

Between 1999 and 2015 more than 700 postmasters, the owner-managers who own local post office branches, were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as theft, fraud and false accounting. In fact the missing money was caused by dozens of bugs in the Post Office’s £1 billion IT system....

...Internal guidance has revealed that its investigators were asked to categorise suspects as “negroid types”, “dark skinned European types”, “white skinned European types”, documents showed. The other groups included in the report are “Indian/Pakistani types”, “Chinese/Japanese types” and “Arabian/Egyptian types”, the guidance on how to fill out the covering form for case files revealed. In each case the categories are given sub-groups, for example the list “West Indian, Nigerian, African, Caribbean, etc” appears beside “negroid”.

Teju Adedayo, 59, a married mother of three who was given a one-year suspended sentence for false accounting and theft in 2006, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, I cried when I saw this document. This shows they were racist. It’s something I’ve suspected for a very long time, but I didn’t have evidence to back it up. They were collecting this data to obviously distinguish how they were going to treat people. It’s unbelievable.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/post-office-admits-racism-after-calling-suspects-negroid-types-k79wlxqnt

Wulfrun_Phil said:

HYUFD said:

Tories surge ahead of Labour in Bluewall southern seats in new Redfield poll.

The Tories are now on 40% in the Bluewall with Labour on 34% and the LDs 22% and Sunak leads Starmer by a big 10% margin as preferred PM, a 3% swing from Starmer to Sunak since the last poll. The poll was taken after Sir Keir said he would push for more developments in the greenbelt while Sunak's government has abandoned housing targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12125185/Conservatives-surge-ahead-Labour-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html

Go-one, read-read that article, admit that you misread it and got the figures wrong, and give us the true figures. The poll does not say that the Conservatives lead Labour by 6% in those "blue wall" seats. I have never known you admit that you were wrong on anything here, so your response is awaited with baited breath.

squareroot2 said:

This must have been posted..if not....
https://www.gbnews.com/phillip-schofield-latest-affair-lies-statement-apology-itv

HYUFD said:

squareroot2 said:

This must have been posted..if not....
https://www.gbnews.com/phillip-schofield-latest-affair-lies-statement-apology-itv

Yes he cheated on his wife, yes he shouldn't have lied about it but the man he had an affair with was legally an adult at the time and beyond Schofield losing his role at ITV it is nobody else's business now but his

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

squareroot2 said:

This must have been posted..if not....
https://www.gbnews.com/phillip-schofield-latest-affair-lies-statement-apology-itv

Yes he cheated on his wife, yes he shouldn't have lied about it but the man he had an affair with was legally an adult at the time and beyond Schofield losing his role at ITV it is nobody else's business now but his

Adulterers should lose their job.

Starting with that Charles Windsor fella.

bondegezou said:

algarkirk said:

bondegezou said:

Sean_F said:

darkage said:

algarkirk said:

HYUFD said:

viewcode said:

HYUFD said:

rcs1000 said:

And in the US:

The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.

It is hardly that extreme a position

People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree

They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life

Divorce without grounds in quite new to Scotland, and very new to England.

More or less all western systems required grounds, reasons, for divorce until recently.

Texas is entitled to take its own view, and is accountable to Texas voters.

Are they by the way going to make it harder for women than for me? (Which the Old Testament does). I suspect that's why Jesus taught against the Old Testament line.

Most sane people would like divorce (like abortion) to be legal and rare. I doubt if this can be legislated for even in texas.

Marriage means different things to different people. Trying to enforce an essentially religious idea of marriage on a disinterested and largely non-religious population is a completely hopeless cause. The 'no fault' rules are reflective of the worldview of an atomised society.

I don’t think there’s anything especially religious about the view that spouses should take their sworn obligations to each other very seriously. No fault divorce conflicts with that.

It says quite a bit about us, as a society, and nothing good, that breach of a commercial contract attracts a greater legal penalty than breach of one’s marriage vows.

No fault divorce is not about a breach of contract, though, is it? It’s about 2 parties to a contract mutually wishing to terminate that contract. That’s allowed in commercial contracts, isn’t it?

No. The point about no fault divorce is that one of two parties can unilaterally decide the position without any reference at all to the thoughts of the other. The other party's rights are entirely obliterated. That is what 'no fault divorce' is.

Personally I think in our sort of society this is unavoidable, but in human and philosophical terms it's horrendous.

OK, thanks for the explanation.

When you say the other party’s rights are obliterated… their rights to what? To be married to someone who doesn’t want to be married to them? What would you suggest the unhappy spouse should be obliged to do, specifically?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Just when you thought the Post Office scandal couldn't get any worse.

Post Office admits racism after calling suspects ‘negroid types’

Investigators in the Horizon IT scandal were given a list of classifications for postmasters who ended up being wrongly prosecuted

The Post Office told its fraud investigators to racially classify potential suspects, including “negroid types”, during the company’s false prosecution spree.

It later apologised and admitted that the “unacceptable” language, contained in guidance published between 2008 and 2011, was “racist”.

Between 1999 and 2015 more than 700 postmasters, the owner-managers who own local post office branches, were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as theft, fraud and false accounting. In fact the missing money was caused by dozens of bugs in the Post Office’s £1 billion IT system....

...Internal guidance has revealed that its investigators were asked to categorise suspects as “negroid types”, “dark skinned European types”, “white skinned European types”, documents showed. The other groups included in the report are “Indian/Pakistani types”, “Chinese/Japanese types” and “Arabian/Egyptian types”, the guidance on how to fill out the covering form for case files revealed. In each case the categories are given sub-groups, for example the list “West Indian, Nigerian, African, Caribbean, etc” appears beside “negroid”.

Teju Adedayo, 59, a married mother of three who was given a one-year suspended sentence for false accounting and theft in 2006, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, I cried when I saw this document. This shows they were racist. It’s something I’ve suspected for a very long time, but I didn’t have evidence to back it up. They were collecting this data to obviously distinguish how they were going to treat people. It’s unbelievable.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/post-office-admits-racism-after-calling-suspects-negroid-types-k79wlxqnt

ping said:

malcolmg said:

Mexicanpete said:

Off topic

Should I be concerned by the current gilt market chaos?

Whole market is crap just now, down another 20K this week, dire.

Feel sorry for those who didn’t understand the bond market and piled into inxg last summer. Iirc, this was “IshmaelZ” s investment strategy.

Peter_the_Punter said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Just when you thought the Post Office scandal couldn't get any worse.

Post Office admits racism after calling suspects ‘negroid types’

Investigators in the Horizon IT scandal were given a list of classifications for postmasters who ended up being wrongly prosecuted

The Post Office told its fraud investigators to racially classify potential suspects, including “negroid types”, during the company’s false prosecution spree.

It later apologised and admitted that the “unacceptable” language, contained in guidance published between 2008 and 2011, was “racist”.

Between 1999 and 2015 more than 700 postmasters, the owner-managers who own local post office branches, were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as theft, fraud and false accounting. In fact the missing money was caused by dozens of bugs in the Post Office’s £1 billion IT system....

...Internal guidance has revealed that its investigators were asked to categorise suspects as “negroid types”, “dark skinned European types”, “white skinned European types”, documents showed. The other groups included in the report are “Indian/Pakistani types”, “Chinese/Japanese types” and “Arabian/Egyptian types”, the guidance on how to fill out the covering form for case files revealed. In each case the categories are given sub-groups, for example the list “West Indian, Nigerian, African, Caribbean, etc” appears beside “negroid”.

Teju Adedayo, 59, a married mother of three who was given a one-year suspended sentence for false accounting and theft in 2006, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, I cried when I saw this document. This shows they were racist. It’s something I’ve suspected for a very long time, but I didn’t have evidence to back it up. They were collecting this data to obviously distinguish how they were going to treat people. It’s unbelievable.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/post-office-admits-racism-after-calling-suspects-negroid-types-k79wlxqnt

Paula Vennels should be locked up now and not released until she can prove she is innocent.

Peter_the_Punter said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Just when you thought the Post Office scandal couldn't get any worse.

Post Office admits racism after calling suspects ‘negroid types’

Investigators in the Horizon IT scandal were given a list of classifications for postmasters who ended up being wrongly prosecuted

The Post Office told its fraud investigators to racially classify potential suspects, including “negroid types”, during the company’s false prosecution spree.

It later apologised and admitted that the “unacceptable” language, contained in guidance published between 2008 and 2011, was “racist”.

Between 1999 and 2015 more than 700 postmasters, the owner-managers who own local post office branches, were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as theft, fraud and false accounting. In fact the missing money was caused by dozens of bugs in the Post Office’s £1 billion IT system....

...Internal guidance has revealed that its investigators were asked to categorise suspects as “negroid types”, “dark skinned European types”, “white skinned European types”, documents showed. The other groups included in the report are “Indian/Pakistani types”, “Chinese/Japanese types” and “Arabian/Egyptian types”, the guidance on how to fill out the covering form for case files revealed. In each case the categories are given sub-groups, for example the list “West Indian, Nigerian, African, Caribbean, etc” appears beside “negroid”.

Teju Adedayo, 59, a married mother of three who was given a one-year suspended sentence for false accounting and theft in 2006, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, I cried when I saw this document. This shows they were racist. It’s something I’ve suspected for a very long time, but I didn’t have evidence to back it up. They were collecting this data to obviously distinguish how they were going to treat people. It’s unbelievable.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/post-office-admits-racism-after-calling-suspects-negroid-types-k79wlxqnt

Paula Vennels should be locked up now and not released until she can prove she is innocent.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

David Cameron could not have been one of our greatest Prime Ministers. It is not even a matter of screw-ups. In his time as LotO, the Conservatives were working for years on new policies so they could hit the ground running, yet when it came to it, no-one in the Cabinet knew WTF Lansley was up to with his NHS changes, and IDS's Universal Benefit was undermined by the Chancellor.

Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. He lost Europe. He almost lost Scotland.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

David Cameron could not have been one of our greatest Prime Ministers. It is not even a matter of screw-ups. In his time as LotO, the Conservatives were working for years on new policies so they could hit the ground running, yet when it came to it, no-one in the Cabinet knew WTF Lansley was up to with his NHS changes, and IDS's Universal Benefit was undermined by the Chancellor.

Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. He lost Europe. He almost lost Scotland.

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

squareroot2 said:

This must have been posted..if not....
https://www.gbnews.com/phillip-schofield-latest-affair-lies-statement-apology-itv

Yes he cheated on his wife, yes he shouldn't have lied about it but the man he had an affair with was legally an adult at the time and beyond Schofield losing his role at ITV it is nobody else's business now but his

Adulterers should lose their job.

Starting with that Charles Windsor fella.

That would also mean JFK, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, John Prescott, Lloyd George, Robin Cook, half of Holywood and the Premier League and many top business people also lost their jobs. Charles was an adulterer he isn't now and no evidence he cheated on Camilla

TheScreamingEagles said:

Just when you thought the Post Office scandal couldn't get any worse.

Post Office admits racism after calling suspects ‘negroid types’

Investigators in the Horizon IT scandal were given a list of classifications for postmasters who ended up being wrongly prosecuted

The Post Office told its fraud investigators to racially classify potential suspects, including “negroid types”, during the company’s false prosecution spree.

It later apologised and admitted that the “unacceptable” language, contained in guidance published between 2008 and 2011, was “racist”.

Between 1999 and 2015 more than 700 postmasters, the owner-managers who own local post office branches, were wrongly prosecuted for crimes such as theft, fraud and false accounting. In fact the missing money was caused by dozens of bugs in the Post Office’s £1 billion IT system....

...Internal guidance has revealed that its investigators were asked to categorise suspects as “negroid types”, “dark skinned European types”, “white skinned European types”, documents showed. The other groups included in the report are “Indian/Pakistani types”, “Chinese/Japanese types” and “Arabian/Egyptian types”, the guidance on how to fill out the covering form for case files revealed. In each case the categories are given sub-groups, for example the list “West Indian, Nigerian, African, Caribbean, etc” appears beside “negroid”.

Teju Adedayo, 59, a married mother of three who was given a one-year suspended sentence for false accounting and theft in 2006, said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, I cried when I saw this document. This shows they were racist. It’s something I’ve suspected for a very long time, but I didn’t have evidence to back it up. They were collecting this data to obviously distinguish how they were going to treat people. It’s unbelievable.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/post-office-admits-racism-after-calling-suspects-negroid-types-k79wlxqnt

malcolmg said:

GIN1138 said:

malcolmg said:

GIN1138 said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

True, and from all accounts he does not seem a particularly likeable human being.

There is also something distasteful about a much older man who had direct authority over his 'lover' having such an affair. Yes, it happened in the past but that didn't make it right.

Having said that, just leave him alone now. He has admitted it, his career is in ruins.

Indeed! Lets hope it doesn't end up in another Caroline Flack type tragedy...

He is a jumped up fcukwit, a vain pompous clown. He deserves all he gets.

Evening Malc

Evening Gin, all well with you

Sean_F said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

GIN1138 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Once Charles screws up tyere

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

My boy Dave handled it so well.

He did actually. What Schofiled and This Morning did on that interview was disgraceful. Dave handled it great (as he tended to do with most things... But then he could also have the most bizarre screw up - like HMQ purrrrrrrring down the phone)

Dave could have been one of the all time great PMs since WWII but there were just too many screw ups and too many risks taken that in the end he ran out of road.

A shame.

David Cameron could not have been one of our greatest Prime Ministers. It is not even a matter of screw-ups. In his time as LotO, the Conservatives were working for years on new policies so they could hit the ground running, yet when it came to it, no-one in the Cabinet knew WTF Lansley was up to with his NHS changes, and IDS's Universal Benefit was undermined by the Chancellor.

Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. He lost Europe. He almost lost Scotland.

Unfair

Portland, Percival, Melbourne, Roseberry, Balfour, Macdonald, Baldwin, Chamberlain, Eden, MacMillan, Home, Heath, Brown, Johnson, May were worse.

FF43 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

FF43 said:

Jeremy Hunt proposing to use GP surgery patients to test drugs and fund the health service.

Patients are cheaper than rats apparently.

https://twitter.com/alanvibe/status/1662007863336747008

It’s how we came up with the Covid vaccines.

Were "financial incentives offered to GPs who carry out community drugs and treatment trials on their patients." for Covid vaccines?

HYUFD said:

StillWaters said:

HYUFD said:

viewcode said:

HYUFD said:

rcs1000 said:

And in the US:

The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.

It is hardly that extreme a position

People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree

They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life

They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else

They are in strongly religious states like Texas

LostPassword said:

StillWaters said:

LostPassword said:

Farooq said:

PadTheHoundsman said:

I do wish this old canard of the Royals being a drain on the public purse would be put to rest. If the Crown's private income were taxed like anyone else and the Crown were left to pay for its own upkeep, it would generate far LESS for the government than currently, since ALL the Crown's income goes straight to the Exchequer and only a fraction of it is drawn out for running costs - i.e. the Sovereign Grant. The funding for the Sovereign Grant is about 15% of the profits from the Crown Estate. Essentially the Crown pays 85% tax!.

Can we please stop telling lies about the Crown's 'cost'. The Crown costs us nothing.

The Crown Estate should be nationalised. Then we could keep all the profits.

The Crown Estate *is* nationalised. Has been for centuries. Osborne's settlement to hand over 15% to the royals was absurdly generous at the time, and even more so that the Crown Estate is raking it in from offshore wind power.

It’s only temporary at that level - to fund a backlog of maintenance at Buck House mainly. Plus the royals don’t get to keep it - it’s for expenses incurred in work (although they do get the benefit of, say, a decent clothes allowance and tied housing)

Perhaps it's a shame Britain cannot find a similarly obscure way to fund the renovation of the Palace of Westminster. I guess that, when Westminster burns down due to its neglect, we might take some comfort that Buckingham Palace hasn't gone the same way.

JosiasJessop said:

Given the various scandals that have occurred over the years at the BBC and ITV, it's fairly clear that broadcasters need to very much introduce strict rules and regulations for their staff, that apply equally to *everyone*, talent or not.

Too many have been protected. Who in ITV knew?

squareroot2 said:

Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.

Casino_Royale said:

squareroot2 said:

Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.

Gordon the Gopher won't.

Casino_Royale said:

HYUFD said:

'Police are investigating former Pink Floyd bassist Roger Waters after he wore what appeared to be a Nazi SS uniform during a recent concert in Germany.

Performing at Berlin's Mercedes-Benz Arena on May 17, Mr Waters was seen wearing a long black overcoat with a red armband.

He also aimed an imitation machine gun into the audience.

Displaying Nazi symbols, flags and uniforms is prohibited in Germany.

However, its laws do allow exceptions for artistic or educational reasons.

"We are investigating on suspicion of incitement to public hatred because the clothing worn on stage could be used to glorify or justify Nazi rule, thereby disturbing the public peace," said police spokesman Martin Halweg.

"The clothing resembles the clothing of an SS officer," he added.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65725902

I remember an incident four years ago on my local heritage railway during the "War On The Line" special event weekend.

It involved a group of Afrika Korps re-enactors. Let's just say they took themselves ever slightly too seriously, and decided to act 'in character' when riding the train: slamming doors in people's faces deliberately and being rude was just the half of it.

It's now, particularly post Ukraine, a slightly tamer 1930s and 1940s weekend.

Sunil_Prasannan said:

Casino_Royale said:

squareroot2 said:

Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.

Gordon the Gopher won't.

I hear that Gordon has categorically denied having a fling with Larry the Loafer.

StillWaters said:

HYUFD said:

StillWaters said:

HYUFD said:

viewcode said:

HYUFD said:

rcs1000 said:

And in the US:

The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.

It is hardly that extreme a position

People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree

They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life

They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else

They are in strongly religious states like Texas

No, they are not.

Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.

GIN1138 said:

On Topic.

I mean "MONARCHY" has a 34% lead over REPUBLIC and seems to be pretty overwhelmingly liked?

By the time that lead is eroded Chas and Camilla will be gone and the firm will be on to Wills and Kate who will prove a much more popular King and Queen.

The future of the Monarchy is assured for this Century IMO.

JosiasJessop said:

squareroot2 said:

Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.

Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.

At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

kjh said:

Just back from my brother in law's wake. Nice event in a pub in Walberswick. Sign of getting old. In the last two months losing my dad (96) and now my brother in law (66).

I am so sorry to hear your news and send you my deepest sympathy at this sad time

My son in law and his sister have lost both their father and mother (their father 2 days after his 90th) in the last 12 months and his sister also has just lost her life partner at a similar age to your brother in law

Life is precious and as an old uncle who was dying of cancer coined the phrase 'why should a breathing man complain '

HYUFD said:

StillWaters said:

HYUFD said:

StillWaters said:

HYUFD said:

viewcode said:

HYUFD said:

rcs1000 said:

And in the US:

The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.

It is hardly that extreme a position

People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree

They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life

They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else

They are in strongly religious states like Texas

No, they are not.

Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.

Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws

HYUFD said:

Casino_Royale said:

HYUFD said:

Wulfrun_Phil said:

HYUFD said:

Tories surge ahead of Labour in Bluewall southern seats in new Redfield poll.

The Tories are now on 40% in the Bluewall with Labour on 34% and the LDs 22% and Sunak leads Starmer by a big 10% margin as preferred PM, a 3% swing from Starmer to Sunak since the last poll. The poll was taken after Sir Keir said he would push for more developments in the greenbelt while Sunak's government has abandoned housing targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12125185/Conservatives-surge-ahead-Labour-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html

Go-one, read-read that article, admit that you misread it and got the figures wrong, and give us the true figures. The poll does not say that the Conservatives lead Labour by 6% in those "blue wall" seats. I have never known you admit that you were wrong on anything here, so your response is awaited with baited breath.

It DID give those figures when the article was originally posted.

Nonetheless the Tories have still taken the lead for the first time since Sunak became PM in a Redfield bluewall seats poll AND Sunak also now leads Starmer by 10% as best PM in the bluewall poll after Starmer's announcement of his greenbelt development plans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124857/Tories-polling-lead-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html?ico=related-replace

It's little commented upon, except by you and @AndyJS , but now the locals are out the way the Tories do seem to be trending back up to the previous mean.

Remember Labour only got 35% NEV on May 4th, in 1995 at the equivalent electoral cycle Blair's New Labour got 47% NEV.

Many of those who voted Independent or LD locally will return to the Tories at the general election I believe

MarqueeMark said:

HYUFD said:

Casino_Royale said:

HYUFD said:

Wulfrun_Phil said:

HYUFD said:

Tories surge ahead of Labour in Bluewall southern seats in new Redfield poll.

The Tories are now on 40% in the Bluewall with Labour on 34% and the LDs 22% and Sunak leads Starmer by a big 10% margin as preferred PM, a 3% swing from Starmer to Sunak since the last poll. The poll was taken after Sir Keir said he would push for more developments in the greenbelt while Sunak's government has abandoned housing targets
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12125185/Conservatives-surge-ahead-Labour-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html

Go-one, read-read that article, admit that you misread it and got the figures wrong, and give us the true figures. The poll does not say that the Conservatives lead Labour by 6% in those "blue wall" seats. I have never known you admit that you were wrong on anything here, so your response is awaited with baited breath.

It DID give those figures when the article was originally posted.

Nonetheless the Tories have still taken the lead for the first time since Sunak became PM in a Redfield bluewall seats poll AND Sunak also now leads Starmer by 10% as best PM in the bluewall poll after Starmer's announcement of his greenbelt development plans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12124857/Tories-polling-lead-Blue-Wall-seats-time-Rishi-Sunak-PM.html?ico=related-replace

It's little commented upon, except by you and @AndyJS , but now the locals are out the way the Tories do seem to be trending back up to the previous mean.

Remember Labour only got 35% NEV on May 4th, in 1995 at the equivalent electoral cycle Blair's New Labour got 47% NEV.

Many of those who voted Independent or LD locally will return to the Tories at the general election I believe

The Tories biggest adversary is the Can't Be Arsed Party. Getting those who have defected to them back to the fold is the challenge.

Gardenwalker said:

I think the issue with Schofield is the mendaciousness of his Coming Out PR.

I agree this is a non-story and that it is up to Schofield who he shags. The trouble is that people smell a rat behind the public image.

turbotubbs said:

Mexicanpete said:

HYUFD said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Casino_Royale said:

GIN1138 said:

Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.

As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...

He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.

The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.

Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.

Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher

Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.

Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.