'Police are investigating former Pink Floyd bassist Roger Waters after he wore what appeared to be a Nazi SS uniform during a recent concert in Germany.
Performing at Berlin's Mercedes-Benz Arena on May 17, Mr Waters was seen wearing a long black overcoat with a red armband.
He also aimed an imitation machine gun into the audience.
Displaying Nazi symbols, flags and uniforms is prohibited in Germany.
However, its laws do allow exceptions for artistic or educational reasons.
"We are investigating on suspicion of incitement to public hatred because the clothing worn on stage could be used to glorify or justify Nazi rule, thereby disturbing the public peace," said police spokesman Martin Halweg.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.
As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...
He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.
The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.
Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.
Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher
Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.
Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.
Nicholas Parsons was Arthur Haines' straight man. Parsons was arguably more comedic than Haines.
And the same for his many years chairing Just a Minute. It takes comic nous to be the straight man.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.
As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...
He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.
The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.
Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.
Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher
Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.
Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.
Nicholas Parsons was Arthur Haines' straight man. Parsons was arguably more comedic than Haines.
And the same for his many years chairing Just a Minute. It takes comic nous to be the straight man.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
Loved Just a minute. And Brain of Britain. And I'm Sorry I haven't a clue - all the things you hear when your Mum doesn’t want to miss the beginning of The Archers.
Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.
As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...
He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.
The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.
Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.
Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher
Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.
Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.
Nicholas Parsons was Arthur Haines' straight man. Parsons was arguably more comedic than Haines.
And the same for his many years chairing Just a Minute. It takes comic nous to be the straight man.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
I never found Jimmy Edwards remotely funny. A good Tory as I recall. Parsons of course was a Liberal.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
No. That’s also a sackable offence (and has been for 20+ years)
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
No. That’s also a sackable offence (and has been for 20+ years)
And would probably win an unfair dismissal claim in that case.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
They could pump huge amounts of raw sewage into them instead. Karma.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Oooh. That is a big danger for the tories. I assumed the water companies debt was fixed and very very long term. I did a google news search for dieter helm and couldn’t see anything? Do you have a link?
Pondering further Hunts comments today - I wonder at what point Baileys position becomes untenable?
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
Fast X is the dumbest, loudest, stupidest film I've ever seen.
I quite enjoyed it.
The trailers for those films have looked entirely indistinguishable to me for at least the last 3 or 4 in the franchise.
There's a bridge, a big cargo plane, cars driving over the edge of a thing into the air, a big explosion, and lots of shots of a man quickly changing gears looking intense.
Go-one, read-read that article, admit that you misread it and got the figures wrong, and give us the true figures. The poll does not say that the Conservatives lead Labour by 6% in those "blue wall" seats. I have never known you admit that you were wrong on anything here, so your response is awaited with baited breath.
It DID give those figures when the article was originally posted.
The figures you quoted were wrong. They've been around for a couple of days now, you should try checking the source or even wiki before quoting any poll. And having quoted the wrong figures on the this site, you still can't bring yourself to correct them. Typical.
So let me do so for you. R&W Blue Wall seats. Con 34%, Lab 33%, LD 22%.
Labour is challenging in half those seats, so the Labour vote will be concentrated there and the LD vote squeezed. The LDs are challenging in the other half, so the LD vote will be highly concentrated there and the Lab vote squeezed. And the Conservatives are defending all of the seats, so their vote will be fairly evenly spread. The Conservatives will be behind in all or nearly all of those seats.
Fast X is the dumbest, loudest, stupidest film I've ever seen.
I quite enjoyed it.
The trailers for those films have looked entirely indistinguishable to me for at least the last 3 or 4 in the franchise.
There's a bridge, a big cargo plane, cars driving over the edge of a thing into the air, a big explosion, and lots of shots of a man quickly changing gears looking intense.
They've got slowly worse and worse but kind of more tongue in cheek. They've definitely reached the point where physics doesn't exist, though.
Fast 7 made me cry at the end. The best is still Five IMHO.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
No. That’s also a sackable offence (and has been for 20+ years)
And would probably win an unfair dismissal claim in that case.
I doubt it. In most cases it’s gross misconduct to have an affair with someone who’s compensation you can influence.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
In the legal world wage increases seem to have slowed right down to below inflation due to the seemingly impending recession.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
Yes big pain for mortgage holders to come here. Gilt yields back to where they were round the truss debacle.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
No. That’s also a sackable offence (and has been for 20+ years)
And would probably win an unfair dismissal claim in that case.
I doubt it. In most cases it’s gross misconduct to have an affair with someone who’s compensation you can influence.
It might be designated as such by company policy but as people have a right to a private life including forming consensual relationships, I think the company would have to demonstrate the relationship was damaging the company or the workspace. Or to put another way, the company can manage the situation, for example by moving the staff concerned so they no longer report to each other, but that doesn't give them the right to automatic dismissal.
Having said that, there are others on here who know far more about this than I do.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
Yes big pain for mortgage holders to come here. Gilt yields back to where they were round the truss debacle.
Why is that?
My fixed-rate comes to an end in February 2024. Genuinely think I will need to sell unless I can go interest-only for a year or so.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
Especially when one of the factors behind the politics of 2016-9 was the expectation that wages could be driven up. Which they can, but it's not helpful if prices go up faster.
Talking of which, the rumour is that the Teacher pay review body has suggested a 6.5% rise. That's both way more than the government has budgeted for and not really enough to tempt teachers out of the woodwork.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
I see no need for the government to bail out the water companies and their shareholders in those circumstances.
They can be renationalised for next to nothing if they're all but bust anyway.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Listening to Bloomberg today they say that inflation is not under control in the US and much higher rates are required from the Fed
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Inflation is always stickier than blithely predicted. Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages. It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
Especially when one of the factors behind the politics of 2016-9 was the expectation that wages could be driven up. Which they can, but it's not helpful if prices go up faster.
Talking of which, the rumour is that the Teacher pay review body has suggested a 6.5% rise. That's both way more than the government has budgeted for and not really enough to tempt teachers out of the woodwork.
The big question is TA's and other support staff, if they remain on minimum wage. We already can't get any. They're leaving and not being replaced. Let alone anyone half competent. It's a bigger issue for me than my pay. Can't do the job without them.
Schofield will need support and soon. Whatever he has done, he needs support at such a time. I hope his friends do not desert him.
Agree, but he has money that will help him get/buy support. He is not a victim. I hope the other party, and both of their families, also get some support, as the press/media will be all over them.
At the very very best, Schofield abused his position and power.
I do find it hard to get my head around the fact he is getting his career terminated for doing stuff many years ago that was pretty normal in the workplace - an affair with a younger colleague. It was not illegal. Is the problem that it was a man and not a woman? He has said he lied as well, but he is a TV presenter and not a politician or public servant.
There is a strong whiff here of people making moral judgements about what consenting adults get up to in their free time. It feels like we are going back to the 1950s.
It was with his direct report. That’s an issue.
is it any different to having an affair with your secretary?
No. That’s also a sackable offence (and has been for 20+ years)
And would probably win an unfair dismissal claim in that case.
I doubt it. In most cases it’s gross misconduct to have an affair with someone who’s compensation you can influence.
It might be designated as such by company policy but as people have a right to a private life including forming consensual relationships, I think the company would have to demonstrate the relationship was damaging the company or the workspace. Or to put another way, the company can manage the situation, for example by moving the staff concerned so they no longer report to each other, but that doesn't give them the right to automatic dismissal.
Having said that, there are others on here who know far more about this than I do.
The thing is Horse, avoiding a technical recession by fractional growth mean jack s***. We need the inflation figure to reduce dramatically without mortgage foreclosures. We need to suppress spending without businesses failing. Succeeding in both or either will be a measure of Sunak and Hunt's dark artistry.
Go-one, read-read that article, admit that you misread it and got the figures wrong, and give us the true figures. The poll does not say that the Conservatives lead Labour by 6% in those "blue wall" seats. I have never known you admit that you were wrong on anything here, so your response is awaited with baited breath.
It DID give those figures when the article was originally posted.
The figures you quoted were wrong. They've been around for a couple of days now, you should try checking the source or even wiki before quoting any poll. And having quoted the wrong figures on the this site, you still can't bring yourself to correct them. Typical.
So let me do so for you. R&W Blue Wall seats. Con 34%, Lab 33%, LD 22%.
Labour is challenging in half those seats, so the Labour vote will be concentrated there and the LD vote squeezed. The LDs are challenging in the other half, so the LD vote will be highly concentrated there and the Lab vote squeezed. And the Conservatives are defending all of the seats, so their vote will be fairly evenly spread. The Conservatives will be behind in all or nearly all of those seats.
No they weren't wrong actually, those were literally the figures the Mail quoted so if anyone was wrong it was them not me.
And yes it is STILL the first time the Tories lead in the bluewall seats in a Redfield poll since Sunak became PM and STILL a 10% lead for Sunak as preferred PM over Starmer in the bluewall too. Many voters who might have considered voting LD will therefore now vote Tory to keep Starmer out and Sunak in. No matter how much you want to quibble
The thing is Horse, avoiding a technical recession by fractional growth mean jack s***. We need the inflation figure to reduce dramatically without mortgage foreclosures. We need to suppress spending without businesses failing. Succeeding in both or either will be a measure of Sunak and Hunt's dark artistry.
We can avoid recession if we admit 1 million immigrants next year.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
I see no need for the government to bail out the water companies and their shareholders in those circumstances.
They can be renationalised for next to nothing if they're all but bust anyway.
Welsh water to give us all a £10 discount for misreporting leaks
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.
As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...
He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.
The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.
Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.
Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher
Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.
Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.
Nicholas Parsons was Arthur Haines' straight man. Parsons was arguably more comedic than Haines.
And the same for his many years chairing Just a Minute. It takes comic nous to be the straight man.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
I never found Jimmy Edwards remotely funny. A good Tory as I recall. Parsons of course was a Liberal.
Tories made bad comedians, in general.
Bob Monkhouse?
" When I was younger I said I wanted to be a comedian. Everyone laughed at me. No one's laughing now!"
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
I see no need for the government to bail out the water companies and their shareholders in those circumstances.
They can be renationalised for next to nothing if they're all but bust anyway.
Welsh water to give us all a £10 discount for misreporting leaks
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Representative democracy still works, mainly general elections only every 4 or 5 years. Direct democracy and regular divisive referendums however doesn't on the whole
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
I see no need for the government to bail out the water companies and their shareholders in those circumstances.
They can be renationalised for next to nothing if they're all but bust anyway.
Welsh water to give us all a £10 discount for misreporting leaks
Yes he cheated on his wife, yes he shouldn't have lied about it but the man he had an affair with was legally an adult at the time and beyond Schofield losing his role at ITV it is nobody else's business now but his
No wrong. By all accounts he groomed him from when he was about 11. He was also in a position of power over him. This is not like him meeting a 25 yr old already out gay guy at work. Ive seen a video of him having a private lunch with the boy when he looked about 16.
So? Unless he had sex with him before 18 it was still not illegal
Ok so a man gets a young girl of 16 a job as a runner then has cosy private lunches with her before having sex with her 2 years later. Thats not illegal either but any man doing that in the current climate would be hung out to dry.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Representative democracy still works, mainly general elections only every 4 or 5 years. Direct democracy and regular divisive referendums however doesn't on the whole
Yet divisive referendums are fine so long as their decision is never questioned?
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Representative democracy still works, mainly general elections only every 4 or 5 years. Direct democracy and regular divisive referendums however doesn't on the whole
Yet divisive referendums are fine so long as their decision is never questioned?
It took over 3 years for Parliament to even agree to implement the 2016 EU referendum result, which tells you everything about how pointless and divisive referenda are
Re. Phillip Schofield it's hard to feel much sympathy for him given what he did in that interview with David Cameron back around 2012.
As the old saying goes, what goes around comes around...
He was virtually deified for coming out as gay, and his poor wife barely got a look in.
The consistent pattern of behaviour with him is he's a perennial liar.
Worse, he's a pisspoor presenter, and always was.
Not always, he was quite good on CBBC with Gordon the Gopher
Gordon the Gopher carried him. Much like Morecambe carried Wise.
Harsh on Wise. Straight men play a key role in a double act.
Nicholas Parsons was Arthur Haines' straight man. Parsons was arguably more comedic than Haines.
And the same for his many years chairing Just a Minute. It takes comic nous to be the straight man.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
I never found Jimmy Edwards remotely funny. A good Tory as I recall. Parsons of course was a Liberal.
Tories made bad comedians, in general.
According to a friend who is on the standup circuit, a fair few comedians are closet Tories who don't dare to come out because they will never be booked again if they do.
He is conservative himself but keeps his set studiously apolitical.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
I was wondering when you would reveal your true colours.
Must be tough working the night shift in St Petersburg.
Yes he cheated on his wife, yes he shouldn't have lied about it but the man he had an affair with was legally an adult at the time and beyond Schofield losing his role at ITV it is nobody else's business now but his
No wrong. By all accounts he groomed him from when he was about 11. He was also in a position of power over him. This is not like him meeting a 25 yr old already out gay guy at work. Ive seen a video of him having a private lunch with the boy when he looked about 16.
So? Unless he had sex with him before 18 it was still not illegal
Ok so a man gets a young girl of 16 a job as a runner then has cosy private lunches with her before having sex with her 2 years later. Thats not illegal either but any man doing that in the current climate would be hung out to dry.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Representative democracy still works, mainly general elections only every 4 or 5 years. Direct democracy and regular divisive referendums however doesn't on the whole
The point is many believe democracy no longer works mainly because tough decisions cant be made. Wasnt it Plato who said democracy always disdolves into dictatorship. Since we have had universal suffrage so far times have been mainly good so democracy hasnt been tested yet. Lets face it politicians making decisions by focus groups only arouses contempt.
What do you think about Bailey? What do you think IR’s should be?
I haven’t kept up with the Trussite narrative, although iirc Kate Andrews on the specie pod seemed to have a negative opinion of him.
I'm not up with the Trussite narrative either - I supported what she tried to do, but I don't read her output avidly. Kwasi seems to be making the rounds atm, don't know why.
I think interest rates should be calibrated to avoid recession. There is nothing inherently econonically beneficial about a recession - the ECB, BOE and Fed seem to want one, so that's where they're going to try and take us.
These people are all singing from the same extremely political hymnsheet, so my feelings about the competency of Andrew Bailey, or Rishi Sunak, or Jeremy Hunt, are somewhat moot - none of them is going to defy the general narrative of going for a deeply damaging recession, whatever their personal intelligence or work ethic - indeed the less good they are at their job the better.
I knew from post one that Mayfair was a Russian bot
Just because your paranoid doesnt mean they aint out to get you. By the way on the topic of russia the youth over there are full on behind Putin and see themselves as under siege by the west.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
Representative democracy still works, mainly general elections only every 4 or 5 years. Direct democracy and regular divisive referendums however doesn't on the whole
It works well in Switzerland, where the politicians accept that the people run the show.
What do you think about Bailey? What do you think IR’s should be?
I haven’t kept up with the Trussite narrative, although iirc Kate Andrews on the specie pod seemed to have a negative opinion of him.
I'm not up with the Trussite narrative either - I supported what she tried to do, but I don't read her output avidly. Kwasi seems to be making the rounds atm, don't know why.
I think interest rates should be calibrated to avoid recession. There is nothing inherently econonically beneficial about a recession - the ECB, BOE and Fed seem to want one, so that's where they're going to try and take us.
These people are all singing from the same extremely political hymnsheet, so my feelings about the competency of Andrew Bailey, or Rishi Sunak, or Jeremy Hunt, are somewhat moot - none of them is going to defy the general narrative of going for a deeply damaging recession, whatever their personal intelligence or work ethic - indeed the less good they are at their job the better.
The one good thing about recessions is they reintroduce the concept of risk.
I knew from post one that Mayfair was a Russian bot
Just because your paranoid doesnt mean they aint out to get you. By the way on the topic of russia the youth over there are full on behind Putin and see themselves as under siege by the west.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
What do you think about Bailey? What do you think IR’s should be?
I haven’t kept up with the Trussite narrative, although iirc Kate Andrews on the specie pod seemed to have a negative opinion of him.
I'm not up with the Trussite narrative either - I supported what she tried to do, but I don't read her output avidly. Kwasi seems to be making the rounds atm, don't know why.
I think interest rates should be calibrated to avoid recession. There is nothing inherently econonically beneficial about a recession - the ECB, BOE and Fed seem to want one, so that's where they're going to try and take us.
These people are all singing from the same extremely political hymnsheet, so my feelings about the competency of Andrew Bailey, or Rishi Sunak, or Jeremy Hunt, are somewhat moot - none of them is going to defy the general narrative of going for a deeply damaging recession, whatever their personal intelligence or work ethic - indeed the less good they are at their job the better.
The one good thing about recessions is they reintroduce the concept of risk.
But that's like saying that disease is good because it makes you not want to catch a disease again. It's hardly a silver lining.
I knew from post one that Mayfair was a Russian bot
Just because your paranoid doesnt mean they aint out to get you. By the way on the topic of russia the youth over there are full on behind Putin and see themselves as under siege by the west.
I knew from post one that Mayfair was a Russian bot
Just because your paranoid doesnt mean they aint out to get you. By the way on the topic of russia the youth over there are full on behind Putin and see themselves as under siege by the west.
The subtlety here is the equivalent of walking into a wall
There were parents in wales complaining about the disgusting sexual propganda in schools. Thats the west. Pervert central with n.nces for tv presenters.
Ok. Piss off, now.
So you support the sexual propoganda in schools. Are you a pervert.
Schofield has finally been caught out ... But he's not the only guilty party. 4 high members of Itv management knew what sort of man he was ...and NEVER once took action to prevent him controlling or taking advantage of his position over young people.
There were parents in wales complaining about the disgusting sexual propganda in schools. Thats the west. Pervert central with n.nces for tv presenters.
Ok. Piss off, now.
So you support the sexual propoganda in schools. Are you a pervert.
There were parents in wales complaining about the disgusting sexual propganda in schools. Thats the west. Pervert central with n.nces for tv presenters.
Ok. Piss off, now.
So you support the sexual propoganda in schools. Are you a pervert.
Schofield has finally been caught out ... But he's not the only guilty party. 4 high members of Itv management knew what sort of man he was ...and NEVER once took action to prevent him controlling or taking advantage of his position over young people.
I think the issue with Schofield is the mendaciousness of his Coming Out PR.
I agree this is a non-story and that it is up to Schofield who he shags. The trouble is that people smell a rat behind the public image.
I think there is the element of grooming about it too. In other contexts it would be strongly called out. I.e. 16 year old girl asks for help getting into my Uni. I help out, she turns up, stays friendly with me and then I embark on an affair with her. Nothing illegal, but bot right, at least in my eyes. Schofield is a massive hypocrite and liar, and for that alone his career is done.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
What's the weather like in Moscow?
There's a refreshing and witty take on the situation that we've never heard before.
What do you think about Bailey? What do you think IR’s should be?
I haven’t kept up with the Trussite narrative, although iirc Kate Andrews on the specie pod seemed to have a negative opinion of him.
I'm not up with the Trussite narrative either - I supported what she tried to do, but I don't read her output avidly. Kwasi seems to be making the rounds atm, don't know why.
I expect he thinks he will be rehabilitated and put in the shadow cabinet after the next GE.
I think the issue with Schofield is the mendaciousness of his Coming Out PR.
I agree this is a non-story and that it is up to Schofield who he shags. The trouble is that people smell a rat behind the public image.
I think there is the element of grooming about it too. In other contexts it would be strongly called out. I.e. 16 year old girl asks for help getting into my Uni. I help out, she turns up, stays friendly with me and then I embark on an affair with her. Nothing illegal, but bot right, at least in my eyes. Schofield is a massive hypocrite and liar, and for that alone his career is done.
Brigitte Macron has entered the chat
Its one thing is the person is 16 (too young an age of consent in my view). Its quite another if the person is in their 20s.
There were parents in wales complaining about the disgusting sexual propganda in schools. Thats the west. Pervert central with n.nces for tv presenters.
Ok. Piss off, now.
So you support the sexual propoganda in schools. Are you a pervert.
Absolutely.
Obviously you dont have kids then. Do you think it is acceptable to teach anal sex to 10 year olds and rimming.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
What's the weather like in Moscow?
There's a refreshing and witty take on the situation that we've never heard before.
At least its less stale than the constant failure that is ethnonationalist victimhood.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
What's the weather like in Moscow?
There's a refreshing and witty take on the situation that we've never heard before.
With ukraines lamentable battlefield performance they aint got many comebacks left. When does the spring offensive start.
The Vatican also opposes 'no fault divorce' as do some socially conservative, pro traditional family Tory MPs.
It is hardly that extreme a position
People who wish to divorce, or have done, would presumably disagree
They are entitled to their view, the strongly religious to theirs which is marriage should be between one man and one woman for life
They are entitled to their view. But not to impose their view on someone else
They are in strongly religious states like Texas
No, they are not.
Passing a law means they are legally allowed to. That does not mean they are entitled to.
Well tough, if secular liberals choose to live in a very religious state like Texas they have to accept the fact it has a Republican Governor and Legislature, voted for Trump and is strongly socially conservative and will pass socially conservative laws
Tyranny of the majority is no basis for a stable democracy.
Personally I don’t think that Christ was ok with people stoning the woman taking in adultery. It’s the same with divorce: let he (or she) who is without sin cast the first stone
So democracy is OK so long as it supports social liberalism, the moment it doesn't democracy is not OK then on that basis.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
My dad commented to me today that he no longer supported democracy as he doesnt believe it works. Many are now talking like this. No tough decisions can be made.
What's the weather like in Moscow?
There's a refreshing and witty take on the situation that we've never heard before.
At least its less stale than the constant failure that is ethnonationalist victimhood.
Maybe authoritarian leadership is the future rather than weak western democracies.
Evening all, interesting bit of news for today. According to Dieter Helm, that Oxford analyst I remember being quoted somehere, if interest rates reach 5% then the water companies will need propping up by government.
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Oooh. That is a big danger for the tories. I assumed the water companies debt was fixed and very very long term. I did a google news search for dieter helm and couldn’t see anything? Do you have a link?
Pondering further Hunts comments today - I wonder at what point Baileys position becomes untenable?
Yes, will have a look back to see if I can find it.
The actual report was from last autumn, when he said their private equity model isn't viable if interest rates were to rise much more than where they were then, which I think was about 4.75%, or so.
I think the issue with Schofield is the mendaciousness of his Coming Out PR.
I agree this is a non-story and that it is up to Schofield who he shags. The trouble is that people smell a rat behind the public image.
I think there is the element of grooming about it too. In other contexts it would be strongly called out. I.e. 16 year old girl asks for help getting into my Uni. I help out, she turns up, stays friendly with me and then I embark on an affair with her. Nothing illegal, but bot right, at least in my eyes. Schofield is a massive hypocrite and liar, and for that alone his career is done.
Nothing to do with grooming sfaict but maybe abuse of power, if Schofield had (or seemed to have) influence over the younger man's career (or a student's admission and grades).
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Sadly. They flounder when put in the big chair.
(The original plan for Just a Minute was to have Professor Jimmy Edwards in the chair. It would have been a very different show, and probably not one with legs. David Hatch was a bloody genius.)
Not sure we can forgive him Sale of the Century though.
I quite enjoyed it.
Enough already !!!
doesn’t want to miss the beginning of The Archers.
Our media is in a bad place when they centre on 'gossip' stories at the expense of people's real lives
If the government has to pump huge amount of taxpayers' money to deal with their leveraged private equity mess, without getting any further public accountability or control, the public anger over dirty rivers and appalling management of many things will be look like a walk in the park for them, compared.
Karma.
They said this will lead to recession in the US much as Hunt intimated today
Pondering further Hunts comments today - I wonder at what point Baileys position becomes untenable?
Wage demands are going to be huge next year to make up for falling real wages.
It's not called a vicious circle for nothing.
There's a bridge, a big cargo plane, cars driving over the edge of a thing into the air, a big explosion, and lots of shots of a man quickly changing gears looking intense.
So let me do so for you. R&W Blue Wall seats. Con 34%, Lab 33%, LD 22%.
Labour is challenging in half those seats, so the Labour vote will be concentrated there and the LD vote squeezed. The LDs are challenging in the other half, so the LD vote will be highly concentrated there and the Lab vote squeezed. And the Conservatives are defending all of the seats, so their vote will be fairly evenly spread. The Conservatives will be behind in all or nearly all of those seats.
Thank Christ it's half term.
Fast 7 made me cry at the end. The best is still Five IMHO.
Whilst most of the political choices which caused the incoming problems would have happened anyway, Rishi didn't exactly oppose them.
Having said that, there are others on here who know far more about this than I do.
My fixed-rate comes to an end in February 2024. Genuinely think I will need to sell unless I can go interest-only for a year or so.
Talking of which, the rumour is that the Teacher pay review body has suggested a 6.5% rise. That's both way more than the government has budgeted for and not really enough to tempt teachers out of the woodwork.
https://schoolsweek.co.uk/pay-review-body-recommends-6-5-rise-for-teachers/
I haven’t kept up with the Trussite narrative, although iirc Kate Andrews on the specie pod seemed to have a negative opinion of him.
They can be renationalised for next to nothing if they're all but bust anyway.
Let alone anyone half competent.
It's a bigger issue for me than my pay.
Can't do the job without them.
https://www.marketscreener.com/amp/quote/stock/ZOETIS-12482719/news/Zoetis-Inc-Announces-Termination-of-Glenn-David-as-Executive-Vice-President-and-Group-President-U-42929012/
And yes it is STILL the first time the Tories lead in the bluewall seats in a Redfield poll since Sunak became PM and STILL a 10% lead for Sunak as preferred PM over Starmer in the bluewall too. Many voters who might have considered voting LD will therefore now vote Tory to keep Starmer out and Sunak in. No matter how much you want to quibble
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2023/05/welsh-water-10-payment-bill-credit/
As to the side effects of that, search me guv, but they don't look good.
Restricting divorce is also not the same as stoning adulterers and you know it
" When I was younger I said I wanted to be a comedian. Everyone laughed at me. No one's laughing now!"
What’s Welsh waters phone number, again?
He is conservative himself but keeps his set studiously apolitical.
Must be tough working the night shift in St Petersburg.
Once again, can I link PBers to this excellent essay;
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos
I think interest rates should be calibrated to avoid recession. There is nothing inherently econonically beneficial about a recession - the ECB, BOE and Fed seem to want one, so that's where they're going to try and take us.
These people are all singing from the same extremely political hymnsheet, so my feelings about the competency of Andrew Bailey, or Rishi Sunak, or Jeremy Hunt, are somewhat moot - none of them is going to defy the general narrative of going for a deeply damaging recession, whatever their personal intelligence or work ethic - indeed the less good they are at their job the better.
Tomorrow is another day with an early bath beckoning for one new poster
Good night folks
Schofield has finally been caught out ... But he's not the only guilty party. 4 high members of Itv management knew what sort of man he was ...and NEVER once took action to prevent him controlling or taking advantage of his position over young people.
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https://twitter.com/EamonnHolmes/status/1662173477732769794?s=20
The actual report was from last autumn, when he said their private equity model isn't viable if interest rates were to rise much more than where they were then, which I think was about 4.75%, or so.