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With the SNP declining could we see results like this again? – politicalbetting.com

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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    Perhaps they should have sent everyone a text? Letters, like cash, are so last century.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503

    A nontrivial number of people at 3pm yesterday would have been

    • Sleeping
    • Having sex
    • Talking to an infirm relative
    • Getting married
    • At a funeral

    When did the government write to people to ask them if they wanted to be included in their 'test'?



    Some might have been doing all of those at the same time.

    People are weird, man.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    The last time the government dabbled in this mass-contact 'emergency' systems, we got the NHS Covid App – a piece of software every man and his dog had to scurry to delete because it committed its users to ten days of incarceration merely for walking within 150 yards of a covidian.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
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    algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 10,595

    A nontrivial number of people at 3pm yesterday would have been

    • Sleeping
    • Having sex
    • Talking to an infirm relative
    • Getting married
    • At a funeral

    When did the government write to people to ask them if they wanted to be included in their 'test'?



    The straightforward way to do that would be to send out a mass message to everyone at a random time - perhaps 2 am when most people are not busy -, accompanied by a loud alert, so that everyone knows it has been sent and get a reply in a timely manner.

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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    Tres said:

    Has Tucker Carlson been priced up for a presidential run yet betting nerds?

    You could have laid him around 30 on Betfair Exchange last year, and closed out in three figures already.
    Would be anything but short now, but I’m not really tempted either way.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503
    The way I see it political polling is like sex.

    Tons of it about but I never seem to get any.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    “This is a test of the test of the emergency alert system. Do not be alarmed.”
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116

    The last time the government dabbled in this mass-contact 'emergency' systems, we got the NHS Covid App – a piece of software every man and his dog had to scurry to delete because it committed its users to ten days of incarceration merely for walking within 150 yards of a covidian.

    This isn't comparable to that. It's standard functionality on modern smartphones and is widely used in other countries.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    LOL

    Hunter Biden demands ethics probe into Marjorie Taylor Greene
    https://thehill.com/homenews/3965992-hunter-biden-demands-ethics-probe-into-marjorie-taylor-greene/
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,932
    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.


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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094

    The last time the government dabbled in this mass-contact 'emergency' systems, we got the NHS Covid App – a piece of software every man and his dog had to scurry to delete because it committed its users to ten days of incarceration merely for walking within 150 yards of a covidian.

    This isn't comparable to that. It's standard functionality on modern smartphones and is widely used in other countries.
    So what?
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
    Huh? I'm saying it was likely even higher on the day of the test.
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    fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,279
    The Times - SNP orders its MPs to pay party more as financial turmoil deepens
    'Westminster leader accuses predecessor of not telling him the full details about party’s accounts'
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-orders-its-mps-to-pay-party-more-as-financial-turmoil-deepens-5jnrxdnfn

    "SNP MPs have been told to increase the amount that they pay into central funds amid warnings from their leader at Westminster that staff jobs are under threat because the party still does not have an auditor.

    In a sign of further rancour within the nationalists, Stephen Flynn accused his predecessor of failing to tell him that the SNP group in the Commons faces missing out on £1.2 million in public funds because its accounts cannot be signed off."
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
    Huh? I'm saying it was likely even higher on the day of the test.
    You don't have any idea what the true figure was
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    Sandpit said:

    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.

    A clip from his speech at the Heritage Foundation a couple of days ago went viral over the weekend:

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1649601516783665153
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
    Huh? I'm saying it was likely even higher on the day of the test.
    You don't have any idea what the true figure was
    Yes, I do. Higher than 88%.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,429
    Just finished The Diplomat

    Hard recommend to pb nerds. It begins as total fluff but ends up really quite compelling and twisty. And dark

    Not immortal TV; but good, watchable TV if you’re into politics? Absolutely
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    Sandpit said:

    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.


    Decent lay odds.
    If it were Betfair I might be tempted. 48/85 over there.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,555

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    Last Wednesday morning you posted that Sunak had wrong footed Starmer’s PMQ preparation by altering his declaration of interest late in the morning.

    Was it doing that which has landed Sunak an additional investigation into his conduct?

    “members should not disclose details in relation to an investigation that's underway.”
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    Leon said:

    Just finished The Diplomat

    Hard recommend to pb nerds. It begins as total fluff but ends up really quite compelling and twisty. And dark

    Not immortal TV; but good, watchable TV if you’re into politics? Absolutely

    Enjoyed Ep1. Will dive in further...
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
    Huh? I'm saying it was likely even higher on the day of the test.
    You don't have any idea what the true figure was
    Yes, I do. Higher than 88%.
    You don't. You are basing your figure on a single poll, then extrapolating to support your own argument. Which is spurious at best.

    Even if only one million people were unaware, so what? When did the government ask permission to do this?
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    stodge said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    You wouldn't say that if your home or family came under a deadly threat from any number of reasons
    There's part of me that thinks if a 10-megaton nuclear missile were heading for my back garden I'd rather not know but that isn't really what yesterday was about.

    True "national" existential emergencies are thankfully rare.

    Where the alert system will earn its corn is the regional or local aspect - as commented elsewhere, warning of flooding would be its primary use. I'm in downtown East London and if I knew the Thames or the Lea were going to flood I could take some action.

    There's also the instances of helping people to help themselves - we saw last December for example hundreds of motorists, completely ill-prepared, getting stuck on snow-covered roads form hours. A warning of bad weather might keep people off the roads or get people moving and home in good time to prevent getting caught in someone else's blizzard.
    Let people sign up for such a service if they want it.

    I'll just look at the weather forecast, or the radar, thanks.
    What about the terrorists?
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    LeonLeon Posts: 47,429

    Leon said:

    Just finished The Diplomat

    Hard recommend to pb nerds. It begins as total fluff but ends up really quite compelling and twisty. And dark

    Not immortal TV; but good, watchable TV if you’re into politics? Absolutely

    Enjoyed Ep1. Will dive in further...
    It gets better and darker. It ends up quite surprising. Best American politics drama since House of Cards?
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    A nontrivial number of people at 3pm yesterday would have been

    • Sleeping
    • Having sex
    • Talking to an infirm relative
    • Getting married
    • At a funeral

    When did the government write to people to ask them if they wanted to be included in their 'test'?



    So you would want everyone contacted initially to see if they could be contacted?
    Bit extreme.
    Chances are you will never recieve an actual alert.
    If you do, it might aid you in some way.
    It’s not like they are making you carry cash, or something. :D
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,985

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    88% were aware before the test:

    https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1649423104802693122
    12% weren't – including me. A not inconsequential EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE.
    Who knows what the figure was on the day of, what with all the news about it.
    You are the one who was waving around the 88% figure, not me
    Huh? I'm saying it was likely even higher on the day of the test.
    You don't have any idea what the true figure was
    Yes, I do. Higher than 88%.
    You don't. You are basing your figure on a single poll, then extrapolating to support your own argument. Which is spurious at best.

    Even if only one million people were unaware, so what? When did the government ask permission to do this?
    The argument that many millions of people would have forgot about it after a day of saying they knew about it is spurious. Given the coverage the test received both before and after, it is a reasonable assumption to make that knowledge of the test grew in the days leading up to it. As reflected in the changes reported in the poll itself.

    Why does the government have to have your personal permission to do a test? I haven't looked, but this is the sort of thing that is done under powers provided to the relevant minister under act of parliament.
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    The best way to let people know that the government alert service is now active in the UK is surely to run a test, which is exactly what they did.
    Plus there was plenty of advanc3 warming over radio, TV in the press.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,555

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    As government you can’t do text, on account people who can’t read won’t get the warning, so it won’t be fair to them. You have to use colours or sounds, or maybe a video of someone waving their arms around.

    If they are allowed to use video of Robbie the robot waving its arms around shouting danger danger, that would be cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zePYlaVVo_M
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    stodgestodge Posts: 12,883
    Looking at the data behind the R&W poll, men put Labour ahead 38-28 awhile women have Labour ahead 36-20 but among men 11% are Don't Knows (DKs) while among women it's 21% so a big gender gap.

    Among the 2019 Conservative vote, 55% are still loyal, 16% are DKs and 15% have switched to Labour with a further 8% for Reform. Among the 65+ age group, the Conservatives lead 34-28 with 16% DKs.

    Stripping out the DKs and it's an 11-point lead among men and a 20-point leas among women while the 65+ group has a 40-33 lead for the Conservatives which would equate to a 20% swing since December 2019.

    My favourite, as you know, is the "all England" sample - tonight it's Labour 45%, Conservative 30%, Liberal Democrat 12%, Reform 6% and Green 5%. As we know, in 2019, Boris Johnson won England 47-34 with the LDs on 12 so that's a swing of 14% from Conservative to Labour and 8.5% from Conservative to Liberal Democrat.

    What, if anything, this means for the local elections I don't know. The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are polling close to where they were in late April 2019 but Labour are 15 points ahead of their number at that time suggesting the possibility of big Labour gains from all parties. Greg Hands was playing expectation management claiming the Conservatives might lose 1000 seats but that's all part of the game.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,758

    Sandpit said:

    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.

    A clip from his speech at the Heritage Foundation a couple of days ago went viral over the weekend:

    https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1649601516783665153
    What is he on? (It's rhetorical - I think I can guess.)
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,135
    WillG said:


    Spain unemployment at 13%
    Greece unemployment at 12%
    Italy unemployment at 8%

    Germany might want to look closer to home.
    Pretty sure we're closer to Germany than Spain is!
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    I'm going to see Teat of Cessation at Glastonbury this year.
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,377


    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.

    "No time for the old "in-out", luv! I've just come to read the meter!" :innocent:
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    stodge said:

    Looking at the data behind the R&W poll, men put Labour ahead 38-28 awhile women have Labour ahead 36-20 but among men 11% are Don't Knows (DKs) while among women it's 21% so a big gender gap.

    Among the 2019 Conservative vote, 55% are still loyal, 16% are DKs and 15% have switched to Labour with a further 8% for Reform. Among the 65+ age group, the Conservatives lead 34-28 with 16% DKs.

    Stripping out the DKs and it's an 11-point lead among men and a 20-point leas among women while the 65+ group has a 40-33 lead for the Conservatives which would equate to a 20% swing since December 2019.

    My favourite, as you know, is the "all England" sample - tonight it's Labour 45%, Conservative 30%, Liberal Democrat 12%, Reform 6% and Green 5%. As we know, in 2019, Boris Johnson won England 47-34 with the LDs on 12 so that's a swing of 14% from Conservative to Labour and 8.5% from Conservative to Liberal Democrat.

    What, if anything, this means for the local elections I don't know. The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are polling close to where they were in late April 2019 but Labour are 15 points ahead of their number at that time suggesting the possibility of big Labour gains from all parties. Greg Hands was playing expectation management claiming the Conservatives might lose 1000 seats but that's all part of the game.

    Subsamples aren't weighted, so it means eff all
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,758

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,923
    Sandpit said:

    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.


    Quick check: I thought PredictIt (unlike Betfair Exchange) was a pretendy market, where you bet for nominal sums not actual money?
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,555
    stodge said:

    Looking at the data behind the R&W poll, men put Labour ahead 38-28 awhile women have Labour ahead 36-20 but among men 11% are Don't Knows (DKs) while among women it's 21% so a big gender gap.

    Among the 2019 Conservative vote, 55% are still loyal, 16% are DKs and 15% have switched to Labour with a further 8% for Reform. Among the 65+ age group, the Conservatives lead 34-28 with 16% DKs.

    Stripping out the DKs and it's an 11-point lead among men and a 20-point leas among women while the 65+ group has a 40-33 lead for the Conservatives which would equate to a 20% swing since December 2019.

    My favourite, as you know, is the "all England" sample - tonight it's Labour 45%, Conservative 30%, Liberal Democrat 12%, Reform 6% and Green 5%. As we know, in 2019, Boris Johnson won England 47-34 with the LDs on 12 so that's a swing of 14% from Conservative to Labour and 8.5% from Conservative to Liberal Democrat.

    What, if anything, this means for the local elections I don't know. The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are polling close to where they were in late April 2019 but Labour are 15 points ahead of their number at that time suggesting the possibility of big Labour gains from all parties. Greg Hands was playing expectation management claiming the Conservatives might lose 1000 seats but that's all part of the game.

    I’ve given up trying to get PB Tories who have been canvassing to tell us how many seats above 500 they are going to lose. They are keeping silent about that. Rather than talk seat losses now or afterwards, they will likely point out Labour got much less % in votes than polling - and we will certainly hear about it if the % gap between Lab to con is single figures 🥹

    Two questions. If it’s a wasted vote for Labour, but cast tactically for Lib Dem or Green to prevent a Tory councillor, this will lower Labours %? If there is an awful lot of this Labour vote lending, it would obviously cause higher than expected Tory losses, maybe as many as 700, but would also bring down tLabours share of the vote? By that I mean, Labour only getting 39-40% of votes way off their polling could look bad, but if it actually reveals the willingness of LLG to lend votes to each other to hurt Tories, that’s probably more ominous GE indication for Tories isn’t it?

    Secondly, this very important “since last election % of Con vote have switched to Labour” indicator from polls - do we know what the actual GE % from con 92 to Lab 97? Only then could we know if 15% is not good enough, good enough, or on par with 97?
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,886

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Lovely! 😋
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,932
    viewcode said:

    Sandpit said:

    PredictIt have priced Tucker Carlson at 4¢ (4% chance, 25/1) for the Republican nomination.


    Quick check: I thought PredictIt (unlike Betfair Exchange) was a pretendy market, where you bet for nominal sums not actual money?
    Pretty sure you can bet serious money there. You’ll need to be located in the US though.

    It’s just the rather unconventional way they display the odds in cents, but 4¢ on PredictIt is 25 on Betfair. They multiply to $1.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,758

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
    Our bed is 10 years old now, we cut everything until late June. I always worry we're going to kill it off but it keeps coming back stronger each year. Last summer will have done it a lot of good too.

    Asparagus is truly the king of vegetables - I could eat it every day.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    "Tucker Carlson wasn't a zealot who held extreme beliefs. He was a con man who held no beliefs. He was singularly, besides Donald Trump, the most cynical performer on all of television."
    https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1650543739872456729
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,251

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
    Our bed is 10 years old now, we cut everything until late June. I always worry we're going to kill it off but it keeps coming back stronger each year. Last summer will have done it a lot of good too.

    Asparagus is truly the king of vegetables - I could eat it every day.
    Can’t argue with that. I have been eating lots of English early season from the shops. Wont buy overseas, but I see less harm in buying English. Fairly sure it will be quite local.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
    Our bed is 10 years old now, we cut everything until late June. I always worry we're going to kill it off but it keeps coming back stronger each year. Last summer will have done it a lot of good too.

    Asparagus is truly the king of vegetables - I could eat it every day.
    Your asparagus is strong and stable.

    I'd rather see you tips than your tits.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    Applebaum in 2021:
    "Murdoch is also said to be concerned over Carlson’s coverage of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, in which the host has promoted the conspiracy theory that it was provoked by government agents."
    https://twitter.com/anneapplebaum/status/1650563886951587873
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Unlike the photographer it didn’t take me a moment. But this is pure class.

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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Nigelb said:

    "Tucker Carlson wasn't a zealot who held extreme beliefs. He was a con man who held no beliefs.
    https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1650543739872456729

    No he wasn’t. Conmen are plausible.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    Oryx, the Ukraine war losses list guy.

    https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1650547530462113826
    List Of Human Filth Out At Fox News 🇺🇸

    Updated with:

    - Tucker Carlson
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    "Tucker Carlson wasn't a zealot who held extreme beliefs. He was a con man who held no beliefs.
    https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1650543739872456729

    No he wasn’t. Conmen are plausible.
    To their marks, and Tucker found plenty.
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,112
    pmdfoster

    ‘We’ve got no plan ... Holy crap’: What @BorisJohnson said after #Brexit vote - latest @AnthonySeldon @RaymondNewell_

    Not really clear where quotes come from; but they tally with Johnson’s ashen face the morning after.


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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,404

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    edited April 2023
    In the end it was the misogyny.
    As well as the money.

    Tucker Carlson fired on Murdoch’s orders over discrimination lawsuit, report says
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/apr/24/biden-2024-election-debt-limit-trump-politics-live-updates
    … In March, Abby Grossberg, a producer who formerly worked on Carlson’s show, filed a suit saying that lawyers for the network “coached” and “intimidated” her into giving misleading testimony in the lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems. She also alleged a culture of sexism and misogyny at the network, and that executives tried to blame her and host Maria Bartiromo for the airing of 2020 election conspiracy theories.

    While the Times reports that the dismissal wasn’t related to the Dominion lawsuit, it notes that comments made about managers at the network, which were revealed in the case’s discovery process “may have also played a role” in his ousting…
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    carnforthcarnforth Posts: 3,231

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
    Our bed is 10 years old now, we cut everything until late June. I always worry we're going to kill it off but it keeps coming back stronger each year. Last summer will have done it a lot of good too.

    Asparagus is truly the king of vegetables - I could eat it every day.
    Can’t argue with that. I have been eating lots of English early season from the shops. Wont buy overseas, but I see less harm in buying English. Fairly sure it will be quite local.
    Why is imported asparagus so tasteless? The peruvian stuff in supermarkets is so unlike in-season asparagus it's not worth buying.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,503

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,498

    Cookie said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Well, we went through this yesterday. I agree, though my opinions on the matter aren't particularly strong.
    BUT - if we are to have an alert, it doesn't seem unreasonable to test it, and it doesn't seem a hanging offence if the test highlights some issues. That's why you do the tests.
    Might have been an idea to write to people first before disturbing their weekend with a shrill alarm
    I think it was reasonably well publicised.
    I don't particularly like it. But I have no real complaints about how it was done.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,758

    O/T First asparagus from the garden - 3 weeks later than last year. Still delicious though.

    image

    Nice. Mine still not up, next door allotment just showing. It has been cold and grey forever.
    Without wishing to go all Leon, the weather today in West wilts was atrocious for late April, 7 deg C and cold rain. Roll on May.
    West Wilts? You can't be far from us in North Dorset then. Our asparagus bed is well sheltered though and surrounded by stone paving which I'm convinced warms the soil up.

    Traditionally, you could cut asparagus from St. George's Day to Midsummer Day but we've always had some earlier than 23rd April... until this year.
    No, we’re pretty close (Warminster). Beds not that sheltered and is on a hill. I also mulched a couple weeks back so will be pushing through soon. I’ve heard the St. George’s day to midsummer too. My beds are five years old this year so starting full 8 weeks of cropping. Yours sound like you are getting a boost from the surroundings which is great for you and your dinner! Jealous.
    Our bed is 10 years old now, we cut everything until late June. I always worry we're going to kill it off but it keeps coming back stronger each year. Last summer will have done it a lot of good too.

    Asparagus is truly the king of vegetables - I could eat it every day.
    Your asparagus is strong and stable.

    I'd rather see you tips than your tits.
    A very wise choice.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,771

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,771

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,404

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
    Ah, so the depth of his anger is because he's so invested in his tech utopia and he's been given a glimpse into the lack of control he has over it.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
    I needed neither at the time. Though the idea I would randomly turn off my phone and watch at 1459 on a Sunday to avoid something I knew nothing about falls squarely into the category of “only on PB”.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    What is the Turkish opposition’s Russia policy?

    We talked to two senior Turkish opposition officials, who said Kilicdaroglu government would not break its relations with Moscow and would maintain the balanced attitude in Ukraine

    https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1650543721019060228

    Interesting thread.
    First impression is that they’re determined not to let this become an election issue.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,404

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
    I needed neither at the time. Though the idea I would randomly turn off my phone and watch at 1459 on a Sunday to avoid something I knew nothing about falls squarely into the category of “only on PB”.
    If you were wanting to chill out and have a quiet time you might choose to switch your phone off to avoid other random interruptions.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,771
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
    Corset could go anywhere from here.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,116
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
    Corset could go anywhere from here.
    Is your name Samantha?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
    Corset could go anywhere from here.
    Wire a thread on bra puns though?
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,771
    edited April 2023
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
    Incidentally it reminds me of an old joke:

    Did you hear the one about the dyslexic man who walked into a bra?
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
    I needed neither at the time. Though the idea I would randomly turn off my phone and watch at 1459 on a Sunday to avoid something I knew nothing about falls squarely into the category of “only on PB”.
    If you were wanting to chill out and have a quiet time you might choose to switch your phone off to avoid other random interruptions.
    They were both on Do Not Disturb.

    The government’s unwanted alarm overrode it.

    But thanks for your advice.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Nigelb said:

    In the end it was the misogyny.
    As well as the money.

    Tucker Carlson fired on Murdoch’s orders over discrimination lawsuit, report says
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/apr/24/biden-2024-election-debt-limit-trump-politics-live-updates
    … In March, Abby Grossberg, a producer who formerly worked on Carlson’s show, filed a suit saying that lawyers for the network “coached” and “intimidated” her into giving misleading testimony in the lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems. She also alleged a culture of sexism and misogyny at the network, and that executives tried to blame her and host Maria Bartiromo for the airing of 2020 election conspiracy theories.

    While the Times reports that the dismissal wasn’t related to the Dominion lawsuit, it notes that comments made about managers at the network, which were revealed in the case’s discovery process “may have also played a role” in his ousting…

    Couldn't happen to a nicer complete c....
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,310
    Nigelb said:

    "Tucker Carlson wasn't a zealot who held extreme beliefs. He was a con man who held no beliefs. He was singularly, besides Donald Trump, the most cynical performer on all of television."
    https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1650543739872456729

    Like so many of these characters. Just seen a clip of him 20 years ago doing 'personality centrism' with a ludicrous bow tie on. Why do so many people (sometimes not stupid) fall for this stuff? I just don't get it.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Redfield & Wilton Strategies @RedfieldWilton
    1m
    Labour leads by 15%, up three points from last week.

    Westminster VI (23 April):

    Labour 44% (–)
    Conservative 29% (-3)
    Liberal Democrat 11% (+1)
    Reform UK 6% (+2)
    Green 5% (+1)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-1)
    Other 1% (–)

    Changes +/- 16 April

    Broken, sleazy Tories on the slide!
    Yes. That’s my prediction for the coming months.

    I have formed this Daffodil Hypothesis based on counting the boobs over successive years.

    Take a look at latest graphical chart. I want you to see boobs, so I have helpfully pointed at them.



    Now, here’s the clever bit.

    to be specific, my distinctive psephology is predicting a pert titty to appear right in front of you on right end of this graph. This would indicate Sunak enjoyed a perky polling period in April. There is no disputing the chart shows Tories enjoy Spring bounce in this parliament - just look at both of them, like a pornhub stepmom lying back whilst her neighbours son is earning his red badge of courage for bobajob week.

    But if proven we have reached latest teat of cessation, supports the underlying Daffodil Hypothesis, it wasn’t down to Rishi or his policy wins at all - it was simply April. Despite everything, the Tories doing well every April. Just shame about the other eleven months.

    Tell me I am reading the graph wrong, but, this third boob to form perfectly, like the most eye catching stalagmite, the Daffodil Hypothesis would show clear trend for Tories from their spring protrusions:
    2021 fig a) miles in front,
    2022 fig b) Boris just 4 points behind,
    2023 fig c) Tories teated out absolutely nowhere.
    If I want to see boobs I generally don't rely on this website.
    Why not? There are loads of tits on here
    Are you one of the knockers?
    It's a bit early for jokes like that. The thread's only on page 2.
    I shall try to keep a breast of the thread more.
    I think we've braly started.
    Incidentally it reminds me of an old joke:

    Did you hear the one about the dyslexic man who walked into a bra?
    'I only wanted a quick nip!'
    'Ple the other one!'
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    ….
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334

    ….

    I was going to ask if you'd joined the Russian trolls.

    Then I noticed I'd done a four dot ellipsis upthread as well, so I decided accidents can happen to the best of us.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    Wouldn’t texting have been more use? It was phone related after all…
    A text would have been mildly annoying but yes, far, far superior to this!
    But the actual system had to be tested. That was the entire point of the test!
    At what stage did the government ask me whether I wanted to be part of its test? Or indeed when did it ask me whether it could use my phone and watch to issue a very loud and unpleasant alarm?
    You can always turn your phone off you know.
    He can't, because all his money and cards are on it.
    Ah, so the depth of his anger is because he's so invested in his tech utopia and he's been given a glimpse into the lack of control he has over it.
    Er, no. Wrong, as explained above.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    ….
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    ydoethur said:

    ….

    I was going to ask if you'd joined the Russian trolls.

    Then I noticed I'd done a four dot ellipsis upthread as well, so I decided accidents can happen to the best of us.
    It’s the only way of getting rid of old quotes as far as I know. One of the weirder quirks of the Vanilla platform
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    edited April 2023

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    Really? 65million people receive letters about such things to ask their consent (you did say to ask), meaning all those people have to write back? I don't remember the last thing I ever received from the government, so it sure cannot be very common.

    I really do not understand just how angry people are about this. It's seething fury, not just irritation.

    As LostPassword points out if you wanted no interruptions at all from whatever you were doing you could have turned your phone off entirely. So you're basically just mad because it was a little louder than a regular interruption, which is not exactly the tremendous outrage your initial fury showed. You weren't against an interruption, just not this one.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,334

    ydoethur said:

    ….

    I was going to ask if you'd joined the Russian trolls.

    Then I noticed I'd done a four dot ellipsis upthread as well, so I decided accidents can happen to the best of us.
    It’s the only way of getting rid of old quotes as far as I know. One of the weirder quirks of the Vanilla platform
    I just use one dot.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,775
    Russian media backs Tucker for President.
    https://twitter.com/KyleWalter_/status/1650553967917641746
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,954
    I don't believe them, and it'd be a strange thing to do if it were true.

    Over a third of Germans intend to follow at least part of HM King Charles III coronation live on TV (36%), according to a new survey
    https://twitter.com/GermanEmbassy/status/1650489736929193985?cxt=HHwWgsC9sfnq2-ctAAAA
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,958
    edited April 2023
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65379340

    "Tucker Carlson leaves Fox News"

    Edit: scrolling further back, I see I'm late to the party - sorry!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,377
    kle4 said:

    I don't believe them, and it'd be a strange thing to do if it were true.

    Over a third of Germans intend to follow at least part of HM King Charles III coronation live on TV (36%), according to a new survey
    https://twitter.com/GermanEmbassy/status/1650489736929193985?cxt=HHwWgsC9sfnq2-ctAAAA

    House of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha!
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 33,112
    The MAGA ultras are predicting the end of Fox News now :)
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,094
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    Heathener said:

    This Infosys situation re the emergency alert contract absolutely stinks.

    So Sunak was the new bright light? This is every bit as bad as Boris.

    The tories deserve to be booted out for a hundred years. Disgusting, revolting, sleaze-ridden, utterly corrupt.

    I do not expect rational discussion from someone who is so vengeful and full of hubris

    It is an excellent means of communication, especially locally for all kinds of emergencies, and by trialling it it assists it in sorting out technical issues

    Your hatred is getting the better of you
    The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.
    Giving you information is authoritarian and intrusive?
    What information? I got an extremely loud and distressing siren pumped to my phone and watch when I was chilling out on a Sunday afternoon. Nobody asked me for my permission to do this
    Loud and distressing siren? A few seconds irritation is that big a deal?
    Yes. You don't know what I was doing at the time.

    Why didn't the government write to people to ask them before it did this?
    There was publicity about it. Even if they had written to every address in the country large numbers of people would not have read it or would have forgotten about it. Plus, since when does the governemnt undertake a quasi referendum on an operational matter of government?

    However righteously angry you are or people should be about it - like plenty of people I've asked what the need for it was - writing a letter to everyone in the country about it is not a serious suggestion.
    Why not? It's done for many other governmental programmes.
    Really? 65million people receive letters about such things to ask their consent (you did say to ask), meaning all those people have to write back? I don't remember the last thing I ever received from the government, so it sure cannot be very common.

    I really do not understand just how angry people are about this. It's seething fury, not just irritation.

    As LostPassword points out if you wanted no interruptions at all from whatever you were doing you could have turned your phone off entirely. So you're basically just mad because it was a little louder than a regular interruption, which is not exactly the tremendous outrage your initial fury showed. You weren't against an interruption, just not this one.
    What ‘tremendous outrage’ and ‘initial fury’ is this? What an absurd exaggeration.

    I wrote this: “ The alert was somewhat Orwellian. Authoritarian and intrusive.”

    Where exactly did I demonstrate this spitting rage? You are just making it up.
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