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Chester will be Rishi’s first by-election test – politicalbetting.com

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imageChester will be Rishi’s first by-election test – politicalbetting.com

Above is a table from David Cowling showing the detailed results of the Chester constituency since the 1992 general election.

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  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    And again
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,061
    FPT

    On topic, looking at the by-election, turnout in 2019 was nearly 72% so cut out by two thirds and keeping the vote shares as they were meant a Labour win by just over 2,000. Labour would have had just over 9,000 votes and the Conservatives just under 7,000.

    That on a turnout of 24% - applying a straight 10% swing from Conservative to Labour and you get a majority of around 5,700 so that's where I'd be starting with my expectations management. If the turnout is down at say 18% to be convenient, the majority becomes 4,300.

    Put £20 of @TSE's money on it and I reckon a 5,000 Labour majority on a 25% turnout.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,533
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Good old Nigel. Never one to jump on a news story, opportunistically, at all.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Not really a test for Rishi. If it is, it's one impossible to pass.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    While Labour will hold Chester comfortably there is a good chance the swing against the Tories will be below the UK polling average.

    If any seat is likely to prefer Sunak to Johnson, other than ones with big Hindu populations, Chester is one of them. It was Conservative under Cameron in 2010 but Labour under Johnson in 2019, it has an above average graduate population and was less Leave than the UK average.

    Indeed in 2019 the Tories actually saw their vote fall by 2% in Chester relative to May under Boris. The big swing against the Tories since 2019 and post Boris has been in the redwall seats to Labour, not in middle class seats like Chester
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,995
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Yes, Fulani obviously gave Hussey the script in advance and she just fell for it, hook line and sinker. So naïve.
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    WhisperingOracle said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Good old Nigel. Never one to jump on a news story, opportunistically, at all.
    Official

    Farage is an arse. Would be interesting if he has any evidence though, I think the woman is just preternaturally thick.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,252
    Any betting on the new SNP Westminster leader? Mind you, the only one I've seen say much recently has been Mhairi Black. Will the SNP opt for comparative youth? Having said that, she's now won her seat at three general elections.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Erm.
    Didn't they take it in 1992 as well?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,510
    Five or ten years ago, there were many conversations on here about how r'Internet would destroy rail travel, and hence there was no need for HS2. Or rail investment.

    Then came Covid, and some doubled down on the fact that home working was now permanent, and there was no need for HS2 or rail investment.

    Well, despite the strikes:
    "Rail hit 99% of pre-pandemic use on Friday November 18 for the first time, according to latest DfT figures. Tube reached 105% on Saturday November 12."

    https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1598336422225870850
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,061
    HYUFD said:

    While Labour will hold Chester comfortably there is a good chance the swing against the Tories will be below the UK polling average.

    If any seat is likely to prefer Sunak to Johnson, other than ones with big Hindu populations, Chester is one of them. It was Conservative under Cameron in 2010 but Labour under Johnson in 2019, it has an above average graduate population and was less Leave than the UK average.

    Indeed in 2019 the Tories actually saw their vote fall by 2% in Chester relative to May under Boris. The big swing against the Tories since 2019 and post Boris has been in the redwall seats to Labour, not in middle class seats like Chester

    Or middle class seats like Chesham & Amersham, Shropshire North and Tiverton & Honiton. :smile:
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
    No it doesn't. The palace is Chas n Baldy, and they are thick billionaires on the run from ghastly Meghan. Cock things up, overreact, shout at some understandings, job done.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    edited December 2022
    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    While Labour will hold Chester comfortably there is a good chance the swing against the Tories will be below the UK polling average.

    If any seat is likely to prefer Sunak to Johnson, other than ones with big Hindu populations, Chester is one of them. It was Conservative under Cameron in 2010 but Labour under Johnson in 2019, it has an above average graduate population and was less Leave than the UK average.

    Indeed in 2019 the Tories actually saw their vote fall by 2% in Chester relative to May under Boris. The big swing against the Tories since 2019 and post Boris has been in the redwall seats to Labour, not in middle class seats like Chester

    Or middle class seats like Chesham & Amersham, Shropshire North and Tiverton & Honiton. :smile:
    They swung against the Tories under Johnson but Johnson still won them in 2019 unlike Chester and had bigger Leave votes
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,061
    JosiasJessop said:

    Five or ten years ago, there were many conversations on here about how r'Internet would destroy rail travel, and hence there was no need for HS2. Or rail investment.

    Then came Covid, and some doubled down on the fact that home working was now permanent, and there was no need for HS2 or rail investment.

    Well, despite the strikes:
    "Rail hit 99% of pre-pandemic use on Friday November 18 for the first time, according to latest DfT figures. Tube reached 105% on Saturday November 12."

    https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1598336422225870850

    If memory serves, Saturday 12th was a particularly glorious afternoon with warm sunshine. It looks an outlier against other weekend days though to be fair all are well above the weekday tube passenger numbers which continue to sit between 70 and 80% of pre-pandemic figures.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,065
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    My official view is that Farage is a tw@t.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    pillsbury said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
    No it doesn't. The palace is Chas n Baldy, and they are thick billionaires on the run from ghastly Meghan. Cock things up, overreact, shout at some understandings, job done.
    Are you any relation of @Dura_Ace, perchance?
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    edited December 2022
    FPT
    Leon said:

    The first chunk of GPT4 has dropped. A chat machine. You can ask it anything. Or get it to do anything. It does it instantaneously and for free

    https://twitter.com/sama/status/1598038815599661056?s=46&t=1TIC9G0487AuVcfRbM2kKQ

    Initial thoughts: my god. It’s phenomenal. It is going to put about 200 million people out of a job. And this is before lunch

    It is also potentially a Google killer. It will do all your net searching for you

    Google (Meta) fund a heck of a lot of AI research and development (as well as paying propagandists such as Ray Kurzweil), probably own the field, and won't be undermined in that way by a competitor. But otherwise, YES. There are still human skills that are used by individuals to type words in to searchboxes, and to decide what links to click on, and therefore these skills will be subjected to deskilling. The idea will be to use a direct interface with the brain, not just with consciousness, in order to know what "you" "want" before "you" "want" it. In the process the "you" will be enslaved (no need to type anything, and eventually no need to read anything either, or even to know how to read) - and in effect it will be abolished other than as a heap of matter, a long string of 0s and 1s, i.e. a number, but this is what the po-faced followers of the Science religion call progress and inevitable. Cf. Invasion of the Bodysnatchers.

    As well as running DeepDream, Google are probably already researching actual dreams. They're certainly gathering info about sleep including about the patterns of bouts and therefore the patterns of dreaming (which contrary to popular belief doesn't only occur during REM sleep but bout pattern info still reveals a lot). The social relation that is technology is already pointing way beyond the stage where "nothing (is) your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull".
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Bloody Germans are going to be crap and wind up playing Morocco.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Japan level! Scrub last comment
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,725
    edited December 2022
    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    Leon said:

    pillsbury said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
    No it doesn't. The palace is Chas n Baldy, and they are thick billionaires on the run from ghastly Meghan. Cock things up, overreact, shout at some understandings, job done.
    Are you any relation of @Dura_Ace, perchance?
    No, but I welcome the opportunity to clarify that understandings should be underlings in the post you are quoting.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    Germans need to win by 2 goals, as things stand.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,703
    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    While Labour will hold Chester comfortably there is a good chance the swing against the Tories will be below the UK polling average.

    If any seat is likely to prefer Sunak to Johnson, other than ones with big Hindu populations, Chester is one of them. It was Conservative under Cameron in 2010 but Labour under Johnson in 2019, it has an above average graduate population and was less Leave than the UK average.

    Indeed in 2019 the Tories actually saw their vote fall by 2% in Chester relative to May under Boris. The big swing against the Tories since 2019 and post Boris has been in the redwall seats to Labour, not in middle class seats like Chester

    Or middle class seats like Chesham & Amersham, Shropshire North and Tiverton & Honiton. :smile:
    They swung against the Tories under Johnson but Johnson still won them in 2019 unlike Chester and had bigger Leave votes
    That may well be fair.

    The polling swing from GE19 to today is around about 17%, so I'd expect comfortably 10%+ still, but maybe not the full 17%, especially with foregone conclusion turnout.

    In contrast, how much would Wakefield swing now.

    Of course. Sunak still has plenty of post honeymoon time for his underlying ideologue to show through, so by GE 24 the calculation could be quite different.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    dixiedean said:

    Bloody Germans are going to be crap and wind up playing Morocco.

    Bloody hell!
    That's Leon standard.
    Japan lead!
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,523
    Dura_Ace said:

    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.

    Imagine being Leon
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    2-1 to Japan.
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Is it not possible to be British and republican and Marxist?

    But British is probably the only one of those three that Ngozi Fulani actually is. Why would she go to a reception held by the queen at Buckingham Palace if she were anti-royalist?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    Costa Rica score v Germany.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    Bloody Germans are going to be crap and wind up playing Morocco.

    Bloody hell!
    That's Leon standard.
    Japan lead!
    And now Costa Rica level. Germans now bottom, Japan top!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    edited December 2022
    Pro_Rata said:

    HYUFD said:

    stodge said:

    HYUFD said:

    While Labour will hold Chester comfortably there is a good chance the swing against the Tories will be below the UK polling average.

    If any seat is likely to prefer Sunak to Johnson, other than ones with big Hindu populations, Chester is one of them. It was Conservative under Cameron in 2010 but Labour under Johnson in 2019, it has an above average graduate population and was less Leave than the UK average.

    Indeed in 2019 the Tories actually saw their vote fall by 2% in Chester relative to May under Boris. The big swing against the Tories since 2019 and post Boris has been in the redwall seats to Labour, not in middle class seats like Chester

    Or middle class seats like Chesham & Amersham, Shropshire North and Tiverton & Honiton. :smile:
    They swung against the Tories under Johnson but Johnson still won them in 2019 unlike Chester and had bigger Leave votes
    That may well be fair.

    The polling swing from GE19 to today is around about 17%, so I'd expect comfortably 10%+ still, but maybe not the full 17%, especially with foregone conclusion turnout.

    In contrast, how much would Wakefield swing now.

    Of course. Sunak still has plenty of post honeymoon time for his underlying ideologue to show through, so by GE 24 the calculation could be quite different.
    Indeed, any Tory seat held in 2019 would see a big swing against them now and especially redwall seats where Boris was most popular.

    Chester however is in neither category but a Labour held middle class seat which voted for Cameron in 2010, so expect a below average Tory to Labour swing there and Sunak could spin that in his favour saying the polls are wrong, certainly the worst ones for him
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    DJ41 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Is it not possible to be British and republican and Marxist?

    But British is probably the only one of those three that Ngozi Fulani actually is. Why would she go to a reception held by the queen at Buckingham Palace if she were anti-royalist?
    Same reason Guy Fawkes entered the houses of parliament
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,725
    DJ41 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Is it not possible to be British and republican and Marxist?

    But British is probably the only one of those three that Ngozi Fulani actually is. Why would she go to a reception held by the queen at Buckingham Palace if she were anti-royalist?
    To get patronage from the royals and therefore money from the type of knob that enjoys degrading themselves before the bulwark of embedded privilege.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Surely it's only a matter of time before Farage becomes leader of the Reform Party. And then they'll probably be on 10-15% which is probably terminal for the Tories' chances at the next election.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Another Costa Rica goal and Spain and Germany both go out.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    A vast number of goals appear to be being scored in the 15 minutes after halftime.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,703
    Well, someone will ask, so may as well be me.

    What's the German for schadenfreude again?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.

    Imagine being Leon
    I have to say, in all probability: there are worse fates
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,836
    Dura_Ace said:

    DJ41 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Is it not possible to be British and republican and Marxist?

    But British is probably the only one of those three that Ngozi Fulani actually is. Why would she go to a reception held by the queen at Buckingham Palace if she were anti-royalist?
    To get patronage from the royals and therefore money from the type of knob that enjoys degrading themselves before the bulwark of embedded privilege.
    More likely, just work reasons. Some of us used to be in the armed forces, even if it was only the cadet force, and 'served' HMtQ there. Hell, even Tom Wintringham used to serve HM.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,523
    Leon said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.

    Imagine being Leon
    I have to say, in all probability: there are worse fates
    I bet you love the red dot
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,510
    stodge said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Five or ten years ago, there were many conversations on here about how r'Internet would destroy rail travel, and hence there was no need for HS2. Or rail investment.

    Then came Covid, and some doubled down on the fact that home working was now permanent, and there was no need for HS2 or rail investment.

    Well, despite the strikes:
    "Rail hit 99% of pre-pandemic use on Friday November 18 for the first time, according to latest DfT figures. Tube reached 105% on Saturday November 12."

    https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1598336422225870850

    If memory serves, Saturday 12th was a particularly glorious afternoon with warm sunshine. It looks an outlier against other weekend days though to be fair all are well above the weekday tube passenger numbers which continue to sit between 70 and 80% of pre-pandemic figures.
    And recovering further, despite the strikes.

    Rail usage patterns will undoubtedly have changed post-pandemic. But the recovery in usage is very heartening for anyone not wedded to cars.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    edited December 2022
    Costa Rica 2 — Germany 1.

    Spain going out with this situation.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,510
    So, my next project, in slightly coded form:

    MMX52x26.2XIII40x32
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,196
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.

    Imagine being Leon
    It's what he would have wanted... 'Dalle-2: film poster for "Imagine Being Leon"


  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Andy_JS said:

    Costa Rica 2 — Germany 1.

    Spain going out with this situation.

    Football? Bloody hell.
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 601
    Vamos Ticos. On at 34.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,569
    edited December 2022
    dixiedean said:

    Another Costa Rica goal and Spain and Germany both go out.

    And there it is. ⚽

    VAR check though.

    EDIT: Goal stands!
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,725
    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Surely it's only a matter of time before Farage becomes leader of the Reform Party. And then they'll probably be on 10-15% which is probably terminal for the Tories' chances at the next election.
    Leading the Tesco Bag for Life of Deplorables that is RefUK is too much work and not enough money for NF. He's knocking on a bit now and is aging fast in that way that truly committed piss artists do.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    edited December 2022
    Germany score. Argument about getting the ball.

    Why do they fight over the ball in the net when they can use lots of other balls? It isn't the only one available.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,569
    Oh well that was fun while it lasted. 2-2 and Spain are reprieved as it stands.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Surely it's only a matter of time before Farage becomes leader of the Reform Party. And then they'll probably be on 10-15% which is probably terminal for the Tories' chances at the next election.
    The Tories aren't going to win anyway, Farage leading Reform and getting 10%+ would just increase the loss further.

    Sunak and Hunt would take the blame for a bad defeat and the Conservatives would then swing further right under Badenoch or Braverman or even Mogg in opposition to win back voters lost to Reform.

    However provided Sunak can get a grip on migration levels and Hunt can cut taxes by the next election I think they can keep leaks to RefUK down Farage or no Farage and an outside chance of a hung parliament
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/23164644.live-2022-city-chester-by-election-count/
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,053
    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    My official view is that Farage is a tw@t.
    He's just a Trump sock-puppet. Best ignored
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,523
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Oh well that was fun while it lasted. 2-2 and Spain are reprieved as it stands.

    Still probably 30 minutes left of the 15 to go
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,556
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
    The Palace’s action was purely PR but for understandable reasons.

    I suspect that Hussey isn’t “racist” but was being gauche trying to make conversation. In this day & age what she said was poorly phrased and inappropriate (but basically boiled down to where did your parents come from) but hardly the level of the KKK as you might assume from the reporting



  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Dura_Ace said:

    I wish people would fuck off with the @ ing. That little red thing is annoying.

    The notification shows up when the post is quoted, people, even if it is 10 times down the subquote - don't do it!
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,556
    kle4 said:

    Not really a test for Rishi. If it is, it's one impossible to pass.

    Which is why people are trying to set it up as a test…
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    Can't see Japan holding out for 25 minutes
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,604
    The script for this World Cup is being written by two teams, one team with fizzy water and biscuits, the other with copious amounts of coke and Jack Daniels. Fist fights keep breaking out between the two...

    The hookers keep trying to break them up.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    Difficult to keep track of what the various teams need to stay in the competition.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    OllyT said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    My official view is that Farage is a tw@t.
    He's just a Trump sock-puppet. Best ignored
    He's not just a Trump sock-puppet, he's potentially critical to how badly the Tories do at the next election. And he knows it.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,604
    BlancheLivermore said:

    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Oh well that was fun while it lasted. 2-2 and Spain are reprieved as it stands.

    Still probably 30 minutes left of the 15 to go
    They keep playing until FIFA gets a result it likes.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,836
    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    Hello, OKC!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    Andy_JS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    Surely it's only a matter of time before Farage becomes leader of the Reform Party. And then they'll probably be on 10-15% which is probably terminal for the Tories' chances at the next election.
    A bit like people who voluntarily work for Trump even though he will make their lives miserable and then shit all over them, I don't get when anyone would 'lead' one of Farage's projects - it means doing a whole bunch of boring grindwork and then seeing Farage come in and take over later.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,258
    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    Sorry to hear you're still languishing.

    On Formula E I'll defer to those with more knowledge, but that after all this time I don't think I've ever seen a result from it reported or made the news sufficiently to be noticed by my casual motor racing fan self, does not bode well.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    Good evening, OKC

    Keep yer pecker up
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    edited December 2022
    Germany in front now.
    Possible truce in Japan/Spain?
    Spain get Morocco. Japan get Croatia.
    Germany go out.
    Not much incentive for Spain to equalise to play Croatia instead.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,569
    MarqueeMark said:

    The script for this World Cup is being written by two teams, one team with fizzy water and biscuits, the other with copious amounts of coke and Jack Daniels. Fist fights keep breaking out between the two...

    The hookers keep trying to break them up.

    Its a brand name, so Coke should be capitalised . . . oh. 🤐

    Germany now winning, this game is so topsy-turvy, but its in vain as it stands if Japan can hold on.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,510
    kle4 said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    Sorry to hear you're still languishing.

    On Formula E I'll defer to those with more knowledge, but that after all this time I don't think I've ever seen a result from it reported or made the news sufficiently to be noticed by my casual motor racing fan self, does not bode well.
    I quite enjoy Formula E. Put it this way: I've watched more Formula E races than F1 races this year. It's got substantially better over the years. Then again, I quite like rallying and BTCC as well. ;)

    I think there will be increasing convergence between F1 and FE over the decades, and the differentiation *may* become that F1 is for longer 'classic' tracks and road circuits, whilst FE is for inner-city short circuits. There may be room for both.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    OKC, good hearing from you, even if your still in durance quasi-vile. Hope you are improving, and also NOT irritating Nurse Ratched toooo much, for your own good.

    Hang in there, and as you Brits say (today?) keep you pecker up (but why???)

    In this sadly-decayed day & age, probably best to keep your pecker to yourself . . . at least while still Ipswich-ing!



  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,761
    Really worrying news about Christmas strikes in NHS. I learnt there are minimum staffing levels for a strike (which makes sense) - but apparently in current times we are actually below those safe levels to start with.

    Mad to see how things have deteriorated over past decade.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,291
    edited December 2022
    Leon said:

    pillsbury said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Farage gives his own take on the Hussey affair, unsurprisingly he thinks '@GBNEWS
    ·
    25s

    Official
    'My view is that Fulani planned this right from the very start. She’s an anti-Royal, anti-British Marxist!’

    @Nigel_Farage
    criticises charity boss Ngozi Fulani after she accused the late Queen's lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey of racism.'
    https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1598400187130470400?s=20&t=aP53Vbtrs2jVPRkURTzgyg

    That the Palace took action rather shows his take is over generous to Hussey.
    No it doesn't. The palace is Chas n Baldy, and they are thick billionaires on the run from ghastly Meghan. Cock things up, overreact, shout at some understandings, job done.
    Are you any relation of @Dura_Ace, perchance?
    Quick search of the word 'Chas' should reveal which luminary has returned to us.
    Leon said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    Good evening, OKC

    Keep yer pecker up
    Wishing you a speedy recovery OKC. Hospitals are terrible for keeping people in. Personally I'd bolt the minute that the Matron is distracted. Not medical advice.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,468
    No longer in Ipswich Hospital. Moved to Thurrock, or as the local say Furrock,
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    rkrkrk said:

    Really worrying news about Christmas strikes in NHS. I learnt there are minimum staffing levels for a strike (which makes sense) - but apparently in current times we are actually below those safe levels to start with.

    Mad to see how things have deteriorated over past decade.

    So. By going on strike they'll increase staff levels?
    It all makes sense now.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,079
    40 years since the Disgrace of Gijon. :smile:
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    Germany almost certainly out as the final whistle goes in Japan v Spain.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,291
    SeaShantyIrish2 said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Evening ladies, gentlemen, and those of their own persuasion. Just to say I am still about, although languishing in a rehabilitation unit which is taking more time over rehabilitating me and my family, or I, would wish.
    I should be woken up for some form of check around the time of the Chester result.

    In the meantime, does anyone in the gambling community see a future for formula? E races?

    OKC, good hearing from you, even if your still in durance quasi-vile. Hope you are improving, and also NOT irritating Nurse Ratched toooo much, for your own good.

    Hang in there, and as you Brits say (today?) keep you pecker up (but why???)

    In this sadly-decayed day & age, probably best to keep your pecker to yourself . . . at least while still Ipswich-ing!



    Pecker has a different meaning in the UK!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Auf Wiedersehen Germany.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,291
    rkrkrk said:

    Really worrying news about Christmas strikes in NHS. I learnt there are minimum staffing levels for a strike (which makes sense) - but apparently in current times we are actually below those safe levels to start with.

    Mad to see how things have deteriorated over past decade.

    It will probably run better with no staff.
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    OldKingCole said:

    No longer in Ipswich Hospital. Moved to Thurrock, or as the local say Furrock,

    I do hope there is no local pack of foxhounds. The Furrock 'Unt.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Josef Mengel, Ludwig Beethoven, the Demon of Auschwitz, Klaus Barbie, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, Adolf Eichmann, Otto Globocnik, Martin Bormann, the inventor of the currywurst, your boys took a hell of a beating
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,703
    And Germany just need 5 more goals to progress
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    Wow.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    Amazing that Costa Rica were going through for a few minutes.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    England did better at the World cup than Belgium and Germany.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,569
    dixiedean said:

    Auf Wiedersehen Germany.

    What's the German word for schadenfreude?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    So. Did anyone have Morocco and Japan to win today's groups?
    Bonus kudos for ante post.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,291
    edited December 2022
    Leon said:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Josef Mengel, Ludwig Beethoven, the Demon of Auschwitz, Klaus Barbie, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, Adolf Eichmann, Otto Globocnik, Martin Bormann, the inventor of the currywurst, your boys took a hell of a beating

    Martin Bormann invented the currywurst? Truly despicable.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    Oh stop whining about the dubious goal

    NIPPON!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,485
    Jonathan said:

    England did better at the World cup than Belgium and Germany.

    And Wales and of course Scotland and Ireland who failed to qualify at all
  • pillsburypillsbury Posts: 373
    OK guys I am off out to torch a Mercedes, and then kick a dachshund or two to death.

    But I'll be sure not to ask them where they are really from.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,703
    pillsbury said:

    OK guys I am off out to torch a Mercedes, and then kick a dachshund or two to death.

    But I'll be sure not to ask them where they are really from.

    Do I get the sense you are a tentative hooligan?

    Be careful not to be mistaken for an um lout whilst you are out there.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,379
    Course. That puts Spain in our half of the draw I think.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,645
    Leon said:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Josef Mengel, Ludwig Beethoven, the Demon of Auschwitz, Klaus Barbie, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goring, Adolf Eichmann, Otto Globocnik, Martin Bormann, the inventor of the currywurst, your boys took a hell of a beating


    In the best traditions of PB pedantry I feel I must point out Eichmann and Globo were pretty much Austrian.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    Confirmation that Germany wants to go back to business as usual with Russia.

    @olivernmoody
    New: Olaf Scholz has suggested that Europe should ultimately go back to the pre-war "peace order" with Russia if Putin renounces aggression against neighbouring states.

    These appear to be his most explicit remarks on the subject to date.

    https://twitter.com/olivernmoody/status/1598279892113985536
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,376
    Sie gehen nach Hause
    Sie gehen nach Hause
    Der Fußball geht nach Hause

    But that Japan goal looks awfully rum.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 63,992
    Hats off to FIFA. They have engineered the perfect result to make sure soccer replaces baseball as the major sport in Japan

    Can baseball do this? Nope
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,836
    The ball definitely went out according to the pictures they just showed on ITV.
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