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  • ping said:

    I’m sceptical the market thinks what that tweet says they think.

    The BoE base rate is highly unlikely to be so volatile. However, I do suspect IR’s are going to overshoot current expectations.
    Indeed.


    Anyone dealing with numbers should know to sanity-check figures before prognosticating. Who could honestly look at that chart and think "Base Rate 7% in Nov 2023" rather than see that there's an error there.

    2.5850 + 7.0964 / 2 = 4.8407 which is in line with the other months.

    Sanity check your figures!
  • My apologies. You are quite right. I was not seeking to add new field emissions in the UK, but not in Qatar or anywhere else. I was seeking to compare a new field in the UK with an existing field in Qatar. I understand there are a lot of existing fields in Qatar(!). It is, as I understand it, cheaper (financially and in terms of emissions) to get another X cubic metres out of an existing field than it is to get your first X cubic metres out of a new site.

    Of course, fields run out, so you need new fields… except we’re going to have to reduce demand so much that, at some point, we stop needing new fields.
    Your mistake - and one we have had to correct on here before - is thinking that net zero means no gas. It doesn't. It mean as that overall our CO2 balance is zero. We still can - and should - have gas as a backup for when renewables can't cope. But we should also have nuclear, geothermal, tidal and hydro.

    And we will still be drilling oil wells in 30 years time (and more) because we still need all the products that come from oil that we don't burn.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited September 2022

    Would there be anything unfeasibly large about him at all?
    The tattered Brexit sign in the field next to the motorway?

    Edit: Sorry. A bit unfair. The other thought that came to mind was the crop of glamping pods in the upper field.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509

    If in doubt, insult the person eh......
    Pot and kettle once again. Spectacular lack of self awareness.
  • It still isn't really economic because of the large number of wells that need to be drilled and the heavily faulted and barriered nature of the fields.

    There are over a thousand oil wells drilled within 30 miles of Newark and as a result the subsurface geology of the East Midlands is probably the best investigated and understood of any region in Britain - or indeed in Europe. As a result we know that what shale gas plays there are, will be extremely limited in extent and will need far more wells to exploit than a US or Polish play. It is good to see that the man who was running all of this until recently understands this and is realistic enough to accept it.
    As a student in the early 1970s, I worked as a rod puller on many of these East Midlands wells (including Dukes Wood, the original site near Eakring where Oklahama wildcatters were brought over to drill in 1943 - any source of oil that could be exploited was important at the time). The job involved pulling 3000 ft of rods in sections out of the well to be sent off for cleaning (the crude oil was very waxy) and then dropping another 3000ft of clean rods back and restarting the nodding donkey. The rod pulling team were all Nottinghamshire locals (ayup, surree) except the foreman, Bela Borsos, who was a refugee from the 1956 Hungarian uprising. We could generally do two wells a day.

    I don't know how many of those wells are still in existence.

    I also got sent down to Wareham one summer to load oil from the wells at Kimmeridge from the road tankers to rail tankers. Only one tanker in the morning and one in the afternoon, the rest of the day to myself. Dream job for a lazy student.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,216
    Just outright trolling isn't it I think now ?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,314
    edited September 2022
    Carnyx said:



    The tattered Brexit sign in the field next to the motorway?

    Edit: Sorry. A bit unfair. The other thought that came to mind was the crop of glamping pods in the upper field.

    I imagine those signs are now buried in a deep pit somewhere.

    'Arh, I were always agin that Brexit malarkey'

    Or in Doric

    'Fit a load o' shite thon Brexit wiz'
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    As a student in the early 1970s, I worked as a rod puller on many of these East Midlands wells (including Dukes Wood, the original site near Eakring where Oklahama wildcatters were brought over to drill in 1943 - any source of oil that could be exploited was important at the time). The job involved pulling 3000 ft of rods in sections out of the well to be sent off for cleaning (the crude oil was very waxy) and then dropping another 3000ft of clean rods back and restarting the nodding donkey. The rod pulling team were all Nottinghamshire locals (ayup, surree) except the foreman, Bela Borsos, who was a refugee from the 1956 Hungarian uprising. We could generally do two wells a day.

    I don't know how many of those wells are still in existence.

    I also got sent down to Wareham one summer to load oil from the wells at Kimmeridge from the road tankers to rail tankers. Only one tanker in the morning and one in the afternoon, the rest of the day to myself. Dream job for a lazy student.
    What did you do in between, sunbathe or go fossil-hunting?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,560
    Pulpstar said:

    It's North/South London in miniature isn't it ?
    Things have changed then. Apologies.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    Are you seriously suggesting that the NHS is in better shape now than it was at the end of the Labour party's governance?
    No, im pointing out that they are also inept at running a health service.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    No bounce from Ipsos so far - More voters turning to Labour as cost-of-living crisis bites https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conservative-poll-latest-ipsos-cost-of-living-economy-b1027351.html
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,663

    Your mistake - and one we have had to correct on here before - is thinking that net zero means no gas. It doesn't. It mean as that overall our CO2 balance is zero. We still can - and should - have gas as a backup for when renewables can't cope. But we should also have nuclear, geothermal, tidal and hydro.

    And we will still be drilling oil wells in 30 years time (and more) because we still need all the products that come from oil that we don't burn.
    Yes, but we won't necessarily be fracking for gas.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    Gilt markets now hit - 10 year UK debts now 3.5% (not far off doubling since August) and 30 years at 3.8%…

    The curve is flattening - which means that markets now suggesting that rates will stay high for longer because they aren’t going high enough (to hit inflation) now.

    https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1572942409398648839
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Pulpstar said:
    Piss takers.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,394
    edited September 2022
    News from across the border. Russia is actually attempting a full mobilization of up to a million men not a partial mobilization of 300K. No shock Putin lied, but protests in Russia are continuing, despite the violent crack down. There is not much sympathy here: "so they protest mobilization but not the rape, torture and murder of innocent people". In fact this mobilization could be a turning point, although the Russians have been beta testing mobilization in Smolensk and other small regions for a couple of months, there is no infrastructure to create an army de novo, let alone a big army, Either this is another bluff, or the whole system could break apart.

    General view is that Reckless Putin is having a last go. However it is poorly conceived, badly planned and very badly led, and this could lead to a wholesale defeat of the Russian army. The Armed forces of RF are down to very basic kit, and training is abysmal so this would be an attempt to storm the battle field by sheer force of untrained numbers. With the new kit the UAF are getting, this could end up as a total massacre.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,560

    Yes for a pre booked follow up youd need a signed affadavit from the GP to say it was definitely required to present to the gruppenfuhrer in reception.
    To be fair, we're not talking about GPs themselves. We are talking about their receptionists, who traditionally are very variable quality. And their interpretation of the rules which the GPs made, often on the advice ofd said receptionists. I don't know where the GPs get any training in practice management; my experience is that, generally speaking, they couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag.
    And I visited quite a lot of GP practices.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Scott_xP said:

    No bounce from Ipsos so far - More voters turning to Labour as cost-of-living crisis bites https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conservative-poll-latest-ipsos-cost-of-living-economy-b1027351.html

    Tories 15 points ahead on the economy generally and on reducing inflation. Headline voting is going to eventually follow the underlying questions if nothing else changes .
    The chrysallis of a bounce now exists, we await the butterfly, or news of its demise
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    The Government has just confirmed the National Insurance cut will come into effect from November.

    Chancellor: “Taxing our way to prosperity has never worked. To raise living standards for all, we need to be unapologetic about growing our economy."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62991376
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,533
    Surrey Champions. :smile:
  • Ipsos

    Labour’s lead has slipped from 14 points in July to ten, with the party down four points to 40 per cent, the Conservatives are unchanged on 30 per cent, the Liberal Democrats up three points to 13 per cent and the Greens unchanged on eight per cent.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conservative-poll-latest-ipsos-cost-of-living-economy-b1027351.html
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Piss takers.
    No.

    We got our industrial revolution in earlier, is all. They are world leaders in renewables - I think the 3 gorges dam produces more power than UK consumes?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    The national insurance cut confirmed, no independent forecasts - what exactly is the point of tomorrow’s “fiscal event”? https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1572943277502124039
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    To be fair, we're not talking about GPs themselves. We are talking about their receptionists, who traditionally are very variable quality. And their interpretation of the rules which the GPs made, often on the advice ofd said receptionists. I don't know where the GPs get any training in practice management; my experience is that, generally speaking, they couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag.
    And I visited quite a lot of GP practices.
    Nationalise the lot of them. Simple
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Ipsos

    Labour’s lead has slipped from 14 points in July to ten, with the party down four points to 40 per cent, the Conservatives are unchanged on 30 per cent, the Liberal Democrats up three points to 13 per cent and the Greens unchanged on eight per cent.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conservative-poll-latest-ipsos-cost-of-living-economy-b1027351.html

    "Sir Keir leads Ms Truss on “who would make the most capable PM” by 40 per cent to 36 per cent, little change from July when she was Foreign Secretary but a smaller gap than when the Labour leader was ahead of Boris Johnson by 51 per cent to 31 per cent."

    Not looking very bouncy to me.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,792
    Cicero said:

    News from across the border. Russia is actually attempting a full mobilization of up to a million men not a partial mobilization of 300K. No shock Putin lied, but protests in Russia are continuing, despite the violent crack down. There is not much sympathy here: "so they protest mobilization but not the rape, torture and murder of innocent people". In fact this mobilization could be a turning point, although the Russians have been beta testing mobilization in Smolensk and other small regions for a couple of months, there is no infrastructure to create an army de novo, let alone a big army, Either this is another bluff, or the whole system could break apart.

    General view is that Reckless Putin is having a last go. However it is poorly conceived, badly planned and very badly led, and this could lead to a wholesale defeat of the Russian army. The Armed forces of RF are down to very basic kit, and training is abysmal so this would be an attempt to storm the battle field by sheer force of untrained numbers. With the new kit the UAF are getting, this could end up as a total massacre.

    Kamil Galeev is quite interesting on this subject, and why, while Russia could mobilise, it will not be able to do anything with all those mobilised men:
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1572270599535214598.html
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    Scott_xP said:

    Gilt markets now hit - 10 year UK debts now 3.5% (not far off doubling since August) and 30 years at 3.8%…

    The curve is flattening - which means that markets now suggesting that rates will stay high for longer because they aren’t going high enough (to hit inflation) now.

    https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1572942409398648839

    Not just gilts. 2-year USTs at 4.10%, 10y at 3.65%
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,685

    Nationalise the lot of them. Simple
    Is the goverment allowed to set up its own GP practices, employing GPs directly?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,731

    Reading some of the history, it does look a complete mess and underlines the weaknesses in school governance; in particular, the arrangements to support struggling schools. The parallel systems of local authority education departments and regional schools commissioners really doesn’t work in my experience. The whole system is underfunded and has fallen into a pattern of dealing with school failure rather than identifying and fixing underperforming schools before they fail. It is farcical that schools have to end up in special measures before they get serious attention… even more farcical that a failing school then has to be pimped around academy trusts to find one that’ll take it on (at the risk of overstretching its own management bandwidth).
    Another factor round here is that Darlington is too small to be a self contained unitary authority but for historic reasons it isn't part of Cleveland (thankfully for a whole lot of reasons).

    That did however mean that on the day all schools could become Trusts every single School in Darlington (bar a school stuck with a disastrous PFI deal) left Darlington's control...
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Nationalise the lot of them. Simple
    Close the lot of them. Start afresh.
  • Cicero said:

    News from across the border. Russia is actually attempting a full mobilization of up to a million men not a partial mobilization of 300K. No shock Putin lied, but protests in Russia are continuing, despite the violent crack down. There is not much sympathy here: "so they protest mobilization but not the rape, torture and murder of innocent people". In fact this mobilization could be a turning point, although the Russians have been beta testing mobilization in Smolensk and other small regions for a couple of months, there is no infrastructure to create an army de novo, let alone a big army, Either this is another bluff, or the whole system could break apart.

    General view is that Reckless Putin is having a last go. However it is poorly conceived, badly planned and very badly led, and this could lead to a wholesale defeat of the Russian army. The Armed forces of RF are down to very basic kit, and training is abysmal so this would be an attempt to storm the battle field by sheer force of untrained numbers. With the new kit the UAF are getting, this could end up as a total massacre.

    The Russian people know that their regimes lied to them in the past. Why do so many of them think they are being told the truth now? I feel sorry for these new conscripts, but I feel much more sorry for the people of Ukraine.
  • A Labour former special adviser tells me they think, given the state of the economy, Truss will be out by March

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1572942761036234755
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    carnforth said:

    Is the goverment allowed to set up its own GP practices, employing GPs directly?
    I believe commercial firms already do (not sure if all UK).
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    carnforth said:

    Is the goverment allowed to set up its own GP practices, employing GPs directly?
    No idea but im guessing its just a matter of legislation
  • But the meeting was a huge success and we now have an accelerated timetable for getting their market launch agreed and funded. After the best part of two years of largely fucking around, we're actually doing this...

    It sounds like the story of a certain 'oven ready deal'.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,295

    A Labour former special adviser tells me they think, given the state of the economy, Truss will be out by March

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1572942761036234755

    Wishful thinking, shirley?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,663
    edited September 2022

    Chaired a 90 minute marketing meeting with main client's big bosses and my media agency. My voice is *destroyed* - several times either nothing at all came out or I sounded like a dalek. Which was great as an icebreaker!

    But the meeting was a huge success and we now have an accelerated timetable for getting their market launch agreed and funded. After the best part of two years of largely fucking around, we're actually doing this...

    Clearly all that was required was for you to shut up for a moment. :smile:
    (ducks)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,527
    Cicero said:

    News from across the border. Russia is actually attempting a full mobilization of up to a million men not a partial mobilization of 300K. No shock Putin lied, but protests in Russia are continuing, despite the violent crack down. There is not much sympathy here: "so they protest mobilization but not the rape, torture and murder of innocent people". In fact this mobilization could be a turning point, although the Russians have been beta testing mobilization in Smolensk and other small regions for a couple of months, there is no infrastructure to create an army de novo, let alone a big army, Either this is another bluff, or the whole system could break apart.

    General view is that Reckless Putin is having a last go. However it is poorly conceived, badly planned and very badly led, and this could lead to a wholesale defeat of the Russian army. The Armed forces of RF are down to very basic kit, and training is abysmal so this would be an attempt to storm the battle field by sheer force of untrained numbers. With the new kit the UAF are getting, this could end up as a total massacre.

    A "million man army" reduced to 100,000 dead, 900,000 giving up as POWs.

    Spin that one, Vlad.

    "NATO made them surrender...."
  • tlg86 said:

    Surrey Champions. :smile:

    Still thirteen behind Yorkshire,
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/inside-meghan-markle-s-hollywood-flop

    Rolls Royce hatchet job

    "When the Duke and Duchess failed this year to snag an invite to the Oscars or the Beckham wedding, it was clear that they are slowly being frozen out of Hollywood, one red-carpet event at a time.

    ...

    In hindsight it is now clear that the Sussexes’ wedding was part of Meghan’s plan to make it in Hollywood. Stars such as Elton John, the Beckhams, Serena Williams, George Clooney, Idris Elba, Priyanka Chopra and, of course, Oprah Winfrey lined the pews. A gathering of the closest friends of the bride and groom? Well, not quite. One guest who attended the ceremony told me that nobody there knew each other. ‘It was a show: part of me thinks she Googled who would make her look popular and shipped them over for the day.’

    The British journalist Rachel Johnson (sister of Boris) tells a story that was doing the rounds in the weeks after the wedding. While Carolyn Bartholomew, Diana’s former roommate, was waiting for the wedding service to start, she turned to the couple alongside her and asked how they knew Harry or Meghan. ‘We don’t,’ replied the Clooneys. Perhaps it’s a cruel rumour, but it illustrates a feature of their attempt at stardom: they can command the attendance of global VIPs but they can’t command their friendship.

    ...

    Speaking to people in LA, there’s a sense that Tinseltown is starting to see through Meghan’s ‘truth.’ Angelenos are realising that British people didn’t hate her because she wasn’t white, or because she had a career, or any of the other reasons suggested by the Sussexes’ PR. There was no big anti-Meghan conspiracy that kicked into gear as soon as she stepped on British soil. The public there simply saw through her."
  • Nigelb said:

    Clearly all that was required was for you to shut up for a moment. :smile:
    (ducks)
    Indeed! Helps that I had a very good relationship already with the MD of the agency and had pre-briefed her. Their pitch was bob on. Had also done the reverse pitch on the client last week. So it was more bringing them together for their first kiss. I don't need to speak for that.
  • Wishful thinking, shirley?
    All the shrewd political minds in this country think she'll be gone in 2023.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    Nigelb said:

    Clearly all that was required was for you to shut up for a moment. :smile:
    (ducks)
    Of threaten to EXTERMINATE them.
  • Wishful thinking, shirley?
    Absurd hubris. Yes, I think there is the potential for Truss to be bounced out by her own MPs - so many of them already seem angry. But by *March*? Surely they'd wait until after the coming mauling in the locals. And I don't think that is likely either.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,527

    A Labour former special adviser tells me they think, given the state of the economy, Truss will be out by March

    https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1572942761036234755

    She'll last as long as that?
  • All the shrewd political minds in this country think she'll be gone in 2023.
    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think she'd get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris could win a majority?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris would get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Brexit would be voted through?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Philip Thomson pint of milk NI refund on its way as Social Care loses the money it needs

    Cuts to National Insurance will save the poorest 63p a week and the richest £150 a week.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,663
    Chancellor now announcing policy on Twitter, rather than to Parliament.
    https://twitter.com/KwasiKwarteng/status/1572943729681485825
  • All the shrewd political minds in this country think she'll be gone in 2023.
    Plausible. But before Easter...?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,216
    Any change in threshold from £12,570 ?
  • Philip Thomson pint of milk NI refund on its way as Social Care loses the money it needs

    Cuts to National Insurance will save the poorest 63p a week and the richest £150 a week.

    I fail to see what is bad about that?

    The wealthiest have been paying way too much for years.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    Having seen the performance of Rees-Mogg and Coffey today, I'm not entirely sure that imperious arrogance is the way to go.

    This has all the makings of #Omnishambles2. ~AA https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1572942458673303552
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,650
    edited September 2022

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think she'd get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris could win a majority?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris would get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Brexit would be voted through?
    Well some of us predicted all if not all of the above and made profits on all of them.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    Absurd hubris. Yes, I think there is the potential for Truss to be bounced out by her own MPs - so many of them already seem angry. But by *March*? Surely they'd wait until after the coming mauling in the locals. And I don't think that is likely either.
    It would need a catalyst - severe civil unrest over fuel bills/CoL, huge excess winter deaths etc
    Then again a 'former Labour special adviser' would say that, wouldnt they?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think she'd get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris could win a majority?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris would get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Brexit would be voted through?
    The shrewd Tory voter who can be bought for a pint of milk is the shrewdest of them all
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,216

    All the shrewd political minds in this country think she'll be gone in 2023.
    They clearly don't or her odds would be much shorter to go in 2023.
  • Nigelb said:

    Chancellor now announcing policy on Twitter, rather than to Parliament.
    https://twitter.com/KwasiKwarteng/status/1572943729681485825

    So we're going to see the CofE howled down by Mr Speaker tomorrow. Hoyle is increasingly fed up with these idiots treating parliament with utter contempt. He hasn't done much about it so far. But it feels like its coming.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    NEW: Whether at DLUC, Defra or DfE on Grammar schools, Michal Gove's legacy being unpicked by Team Truss, as I wrote here https://news.sky.com/story/the-week-the-truss-government-changed-direction-five-things-to-watch-out-for-in-fridays-mini-budget-sam-coates-12702794 yesterday.

    A friend of Gove has been in touch to provide a policy list to check against / menu for No10

    One to return to in a year https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1572949687195287554/photo/1
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924

    I fail to see what is bad about that?

    The wealthiest have been paying way too much for years.
    Glad you can buy another fishing rod
  • Pulpstar said:

    They clearly don't or her odds would be much shorter to go in 2023.
    Aye, I'll repost what I said last night.

    I never write threads based on my book. HONEST.

    I spoke to some deeply ingrained in the Tory party, they say the magic number is 308.

    308 is the number of Tory MPs who didn't vote for Liz Truss in the first round.

    That is 234 MPs more than the threshold required to trigger a VONC in Liz Truss.

    Proportionally she won with a lower percentage than IDS in the MPs final round and with members.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,533

    Still thirteen behind Yorkshire,
    Hilarious watching Yorkshire bowling spin at the end to improve their over rate as they suddenly realise that they might still be in danger of going down.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,216

    So we're going to see the CofE howled down by Mr Speaker tomorrow. Hoyle is increasingly fed up with these idiots treating parliament with utter contempt. He hasn't done much about it so far. But it feels like its coming.
    Can the Speaker actually do anything other than verbally admonish the Gov't for it ?
  • Pulpstar said:

    Can the Speaker actually do anything other than verbally admonish the Gov't for it ?
    Not much, it'll be Eleanor Laing who sits in the Speaker's chair during the budget.
  • Just had an email from British Gas who supply both gas and electric to me. I live in a well insulated 2 bed house.

    Over the last 12 months I have paid a total of £1,514.00

    With the new cap and with the £400.00 from the Government, if I use the same amount of energy, my net cost will be £1,423.00 over the 12 months from the 1st October, so I will actually save £91.00.

    I doubt I am unusual in a getting a reduction in my energy bill.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,181
    Pulpstar said:

    That sounds like a massively city-centric solution. Probably only works in London tbh.
    It’s exactly what my wife does - as a first generation immigrant from a country where you pay for healthcare (above the most basic), she shops around. Rather than just taking what she is given.

    I’ve seen it upset some people in the NHS - who believe you should just sit in the queue you are put in. But she persists with determination of steamroller going downhill….
  • Pulpstar said:

    Can the Speaker actually do anything other than verbally admonish the Gov't for it ?
    Suspect that he can fuck around quite significantly with their ability to try and railroad things through.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    The BoE completely fucked it, the quantitative tightening has had the effect of pushing up 10y yields by 20 bps but the weak interest rate rise has pushed currency down which will generate more short term imported inflation. It's time for the government to replace Bailey, the UK is getting the worst of everything, real interest rates surging and the currency falling because the base rate isn't rising fast enough. Absolutely idioitic.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,216
    I was right. Higher threshold retained. Huzzah !

  • Newcastle and Gateshead are the same city anyway – i.e. Newcastle – the idea they are somehow separate is completely ludicrous.
    Booo!

    Gateshead is part of County Durham. Not part of Newcastle, Northumberland or the fiefdom of the North of Tyne major.
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 1,002

    Just had an email from British Gas who supply both gas and electric to me. I live in a well insulated 2 bed house.

    Over the last 12 months I have paid a total of £1,514.00

    With the new cap and with the £400.00 from the Government, if I use the same amount of energy, my net cost will be £1,423.00 over the 12 months from the 1st October, so I will actually save £91.00.

    I doubt I am unusual in a getting a reduction in my energy bill.

    Maybe not -that is how averages work. But expect more noise from those on the other side of the line.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,728
    After a pleasant lunch in the sun with daughter and her mother, I reckon Ukraine is going to get so bad in the winter even the cost of living crisis will seem a little trivial

    Putin is going to hurl vast numbers of soldiers at his “problem” and if/when he fails he might easily go nuclear
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Not much, it'll be Eleanor Laing who sits in the Speaker's chair during the budget.
    That's the rule for budgets, this is a Special Military Operation
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 1,002

    Not much, it'll be Eleanor Laing who sits in the Speaker's chair during the budget.
    It is not a budget - I expect that The Speaker will be in the chair
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,560

    Ipsos

    Labour’s lead has slipped from 14 points in July to ten, with the party down four points to 40 per cent, the Conservatives are unchanged on 30 per cent, the Liberal Democrats up three points to 13 per cent and the Greens unchanged on eight per cent.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conservative-poll-latest-ipsos-cost-of-living-economy-b1027351.html

    This is what Scotty called "More voters turning to Labour"?
  • Well some of us predicted all if not all of the above and made profits on all of them.
    Indeed, some of us did, and some of us predicted that Boris Johnson's approach would lead to a Jeremy Corbyn Premiership ;)

    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/2410091#Comment_2410091
  • Your mistake - and one we have had to correct on here before - is thinking that net zero means no gas. It doesn't. It mean as that overall our CO2 balance is zero. We still can - and should - have gas as a backup for when renewables can't cope. But we should also have nuclear, geothermal, tidal and hydro.

    And we will still be drilling oil wells in 30 years time (and more) because we still need all the products that come from oil that we don't burn.
    We will also be using gas in CCGT and blue hydrogen plants with carbon capture.

    These will be new build, coming on line towards the end of the decade and running until post-2050. By funding these projects, the government is locking in the long-term demand for natural gas.
  • Carnyx said:

    What did you do in between, sunbathe or go fossil-hunting?
    Wandered around the heaths of Dorset. Had a BP van for transport, an Austin A50 or similar. Idyllic summer!
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Driver said:

    This is what Scotty called "More voters turning to Labour"?
    It is Lab LD drift. What it is not, is a bounce. Which even the most useless new leaders are guaranteed.
  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,307

    All the shrewd political minds in this country think she'll be gone in 2023.
    I'm shrewder than even Andrew Bridgen (er, what - ed) and I don't. One for our working man's snack at the Dorchester next month.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,616
    Listening to President Biden's (long) speech to the UN Assembly (I thought they only had a couple of minutes).

    On Ukraine as expected, a lot about respect for the UN and the need to respect, and international institutions and how the US has been leaders in all of these (which is mainly, though in no way completely, true).

    The most interesting point for me was support for an expanded UN security council, specifically mentioning the need for prominent countries from each continent to be on the SC, and the use of the veto should be very rare.

    And some rhetoric that I would call greenwashing, mentioning a huge sounding number as a reduction in US CO2 emissions by 2030 (1 Gigatonne per year), which is actually only -20% on the 2021 figure, though it is a start. That will leave the US at about 2.5-3x higher emissions per capita in 2030 than the average european citizen.

    Speech here o0n the Telegraph channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNflsY00qvg
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,662

    Your mistake - and one we have had to correct on here before - is thinking that net zero means no gas. It doesn't. It mean as that overall our CO2 balance is zero. We still can - and should - have gas as a backup for when renewables can't cope. But we should also have nuclear, geothermal, tidal and hydro.

    And we will still be drilling oil wells in 30 years time (and more) because we still need all the products that come from oil that we don't burn.
    You know this stuff better than me. I am happy to be corrected. I was talking specifically about gas because, indeed, we use oil for other things, whereas that’s much less the case with gas (although I understand it does have some uses in certain chemical processes).

    We need to achieve net zero. Indeed, it would be better if we were extracting CO2 from the atmosphere. It’s difficult to achieve net zero while you’re burning gas. Carbon capture is a great idea, but we’ve yet to work out how to do it that well. What you want is a system where hydro, nuclear, tidal, etc. can act as a backup when solar/wind aren’t working. In an ideal world (and I recognise we are not in an ideal world), in the 2050s, we will be burning very little gas, way, way less than current global supply.

    In that future world, with gas demand a small fraction of today’s, we will need very little supply. Only the cheapest and easiest to extract sources of gas will be worth using. Do you agree/disagree?

    I don’t know what’s going to happen. It’s possible the global response to climate change is just to give up and keep pumping out greenhouse gases. If we’re serious about doing something, we’re talking about a completely different fossil fuel extraction industry in a couple of decades. I am sceptical about the idea of continuing anything like the current gas/oil/coal usage but using some magic new tech to suck up all the CO2.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    New hare running.
    Tory MP James Cartlidge asks @theresecoffey to "reconsider the reintroduction of tax relief on private medical insurance" introduced by Ken Clarke in 1989 and scrapped by new Labour
    Coffey: "I will look into that for him."

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1572934636396740609
  • Would there be anything unfeasibly large about him at all?
    His aga.
  • Utterly delighted to see the Health and Social Care Levy abolished.

    It should never have been created.

    Well done Truss and Kwarteng. My faith in the Tories has been restored. 👏👏👏
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537
    Cicero said:

    Judging from the teenagers in my family there is quite the backlash going on even among young people, and any political party that talks more about Trans rights than transport has probably already lost the attention of the voters. Happy to protect minority rights, but some of the demands from some Trans activists go well beyond what is deemed sensible or safe by a fair minded majority,
    And that is the thing - people generally want to be reasonable and accommodating, recognising historic discriminations. But they can react negatively to what they regard as hysterical fears if people simply disagree with some wilder claims.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,703

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think she'd get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris could win a majority?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Boris would get in Number 10?

    The same shrewd political minds who didn't think Brexit would be voted through?
    The same shrewd political minds who called May out and said she would be gone before she wanted to go.

    The same shrewd political minds who called Johnson out and said he would be gone before he wanted to go.

    So yes.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,731

    Aye, I'll repost what I said last night.

    I never write threads based on my book. HONEST.

    I spoke to some deeply ingrained in the Tory party, they say the magic number is 308.

    308 is the number of Tory MPs who didn't vote for Liz Truss in the first round.

    That is 234 MPs more than the threshold required to trigger a VONC in Liz Truss.

    Proportionally she won with a lower percentage than IDS in the MPs final round and with members.
    Which is why Truss is currently throwing as much raw red meat out as possible to try and keep party members happy.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,651

    Utterly delighted to see the Health and Social Care Levy abolished.

    It should never have been created.

    Well done Truss and Kwarteng. My faith in the Tories has been restored. 👏👏👏

    So how is social care going to be paid for?
  • TOPPING said:

    The same shrewd political minds who called May out and said she would be gone before she wanted to go.

    The same shrewd political minds who called Johnson out and said he would be gone before he wanted to go.

    So yes.
    All politicians eventually go, say people will go and you'll eventually be right. But setting a date on it, you're probably not.

    Re-read the thread where Mr Nabavi resigned from the Tory Party when Boris became Tory Leader and PM. Its quite amusing to read in hindsight. Lots and lots of comments from people about how awful Boris will be, how this is going to ensure a Corbyn Premiership and that the next General Election under Boris would make May's election look like a big success.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,731
    Cyclefree said:

    So how is social care going to be paid for?
    Magic money tree....
  • JohnO said:

    I'm shrewder than even Andrew Bridgen (er, what - ed) and I don't. One for our working man's snack at the Dorchester next month.
    Please, as if I would be seen at The Dorchester.

    We’re having lunch in Claridge’s.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,560
    TOPPING said:

    The same shrewd political minds who called May out and said she would be gone before she wanted to go.

    The same shrewd political minds who called Johnson out and said he would be gone before he wanted to go.

    So yes.
    Predicting a PM will be gone before s/he wanted to go is roughly like predicting that the sun will rise tomorrow.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,537

    Piddling? Little? Ireland is the 20th largest island in the world. It's bigger than several other islands split across more than one nation (like Hispaniola, Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego, Timor and of course Hans Island).
    I've always found the idea that islands must be unified to be a very odd one. Even quite small islands, which others have noted Ireland is not, were for very stretches tribally separated. Places and peoples dont automatically need political unification by dint of sharing a landmass.

    What's weirder is when its combined with how another island should not be unified.

    Its whether it works and is desired by the people in question, not a principle and unity of geography.
  • As a student in the early 1970s, I worked as a rod puller on many of these East Midlands wells (including Dukes Wood, the original site near Eakring where Oklahama wildcatters were brought over to drill in 1943 - any source of oil that could be exploited was important at the time). The job involved pulling 3000 ft of rods in sections out of the well to be sent off for cleaning (the crude oil was very waxy) and then dropping another 3000ft of clean rods back and restarting the nodding donkey. The rod pulling team were all Nottinghamshire locals (ayup, surree) except the foreman, Bela Borsos, who was a refugee from the 1956 Hungarian uprising. We could generally do two wells a day.

    I don't know how many of those wells are still in existence.

    I also got sent down to Wareham one summer to load oil from the wells at Kimmeridge from the road tankers to rail tankers. Only one tanker in the morning and one in the afternoon, the rest of the day to myself. Dream job for a lazy student.
    Excellent. Most of the wells at Duke's Wood are long gone. There are still various nodding donkeys scattered around the Kelham Hills but the main areas of interest have moved further east into Lincolnshire. Welton is the biggest field in the area now but there are plenty more smaller ones and also stuff in other parts of Nottinghamshire and Leicestershire (I managed to help burn down a rig at Rempston about 30 years ago and we ended up with fire engines from 3 counties there trying to put it out).
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,817
    Cyclefree said:

    So how is social care going to be paid for?
    Taxes on wealth and unearned income.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,087
    Even the CBI has "questions" about whether this is the right time to uncap bankers' bonuses. See what its economic policy director tells the Treasury Committee.

    Who exactly IS in favour of this measure, other than bankers? And not even all of them. ~AA https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1572955192252833792/video/1
  • I fail to see what is bad about that?

    The wealthiest have been paying way too much for years.
    Cut their wages and they'll pay less NI. Is that what they are asking for?
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