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’Rossiya 1’ has been filling time for more than three hours talking about it.NickPalmer said:
How firm was the announcement that an address was coming - official, or Ukrainian spin?Leon said:New rumour. No Vladimir tonight
And yet the speech was pre-recorded. So this is even murkier2 -
RT tweeted it, I believe, and that’s the state broadcasterNickPalmer said:
How firm was the announcement that an address was coming - official, or Ukrainian spin?Leon said:New rumour. No Vladimir tonight
And yet the speech was pre-recorded. So this is even murkier
But I haven’t checked and I could be wrong0 -
Wonder WHO is Kremlin equivalent to Al Haig (1974 as opposed to 1981)?Stuartinromford said:
No fighting in the War Room!Leon said:I have a mental image of about seven old men literally fighting in the Kremlin, knocking over vases, collapsing into samovars
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Talking to 2 highly intelligent people today, one of them a proper medical doctor, who had no idea what the 2,500 cap actually meant.BartholomewRoberts said:
Market forces work.IshmaelZ said:
Because the more is consumed the greater the tax burden on future generations? It's obv great that you are cushioned from such considerations by the increasing value of your real estate.BartholomewRoberts said:
With gas prices as they are, what more is needed for a "campaign"?ydoethur said:Truss is an idiot. No rationing and no campaigns to limit use of gas? What a fool.
Everyone I know is cutting gas use as much as possible already.
Government "campaigns" would do nothing that gas prices aren't already doing.
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You might want to put in one in a sufficiently large new housing development. I wouldn't have thought there would be many though.eristdoof said:Will they bother to make any red C-III-R letterboxes, other than an occasional ceremonial version?
The combination of the lack of individuals using mail and that the existing ones would still be standing after a nuclear explosion, means there can't be much demand for new ones any more.0 -
The Russian Internet reacts to a possible speech by #Putin with an explosive increase in Google queries "how to leave Russia" and "deferment from the army", according to google trends.
Google telling us what some Russians are thinking. Run!“
https://twitter.com/moniquecamarra/status/1572295356389416967?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
To be serious, I can see why Flash as such a security nightmare having seen the Director/Shockwave code. (Though to be fair, they bought Flash in from another company.) From memory, there was a small ~500 Byte header file that preprocessed out to hundreds of K's of code - ISTR more than the compiler could cope with at first. It was an absolute bu**er to debug, especially with the rather poor debugging tools available at that time and on that OS.Malmesbury said:
Are you saying that there was code in between the bugs?JosiasJessop said:
Nah, Macromedia Director /Shockwave. I ported V6 to a certain computer OS, and the code was... interesting for what was supposed to be a professional product. Holes, overflows and bugs everywhere.Richard_Nabavi said:Completely off all topics, I have a new and compelling candidate for The Worst Piece of Software Ever Written. It's something called Ariba by SAP, and it makes even the worst Microsoft applications look brilliant in comparison.
A little anecdote: at the time (96/7), Marcomedia was one of the top ?ten? websites in the world, partly due to the downloads of Shockwave and Flash (*). We had some top bods over from Macromedia in the US to see our port. My manager entered their website 'Macromedia.com' on an on-screen keyboard, but missed the last 'a' off the domain. He loaded 'Macromedi.com', which loaded a porn site.
Because the macromedia.com site was so popular, someone had cleverly bought domains that were common misspellings of it. The Macromedia people apparently had no idea about this, and were suddenly rather worried..
(*) Yes, they became responsible for that horridness as well.
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Most likely explanation is some last minute tactical discussions about just how far to take mobilisation. Cold feet perhaps.0
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Is he still talking to Macron?stjohn said:Vladimir. Putin or Put out?
Waiting for Vladimir.0 -
"You can avoid open windows, and still catch your death of pneumonia." - old Ukrainian proverb1
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Correction - is falling UP? As in, kabooooom!williamglenn said:
Kerch bridge is falling down?RochdalePioneers said:
Doctors are monitoring his health and he is comfortable.rcs1000 said:Still no Putin?
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All travel is out of country for males is banned from midnight tonight I believe?Leon said:The Russian Internet reacts to a possible speech by #Putin with an explosive increase in Google queries "how to leave Russia" and "deferment from the army", according to google trends.
Google telling us what some Russians are thinking. Run!“
https://twitter.com/moniquecamarra/status/1572295356389416967?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ
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US Department of Justice is asking Congress to transfer $300bn of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, as punishment for the referenda.2
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You need to work on your comma fu: Wallis Simpson, and QEII in 1952.MattW said:
He could still be man of the year.Luckyguy1983 said:...
Teehee. Not a terrible idea.moonshine said:
Now that would be amusing. Time Magazine Man of the Year, Protector of Democracy Putin.TheKitchenCabinet said:
Would agree with much of that.moonshine said:Xi Jinping’s security guarantee to Kazakhstan represents a fairly unprecedented public overreach into the “Russian sphere”. Modi and Erdogan have also issued withering statements in the last week on Russia’s war.
People here keep wetting the bed saying Putin has no out except nuclear weapons. Nonsense.
All he has to do is say, “look I tried mobilisation. But we can’t win territory for our cousins in Donbas if they aren’t prepared to fight themselves. And they are all lazy cowards and I won’t risk Russian lives on those blood traitors any longer.”
That buys him time for a fudge on crimea. And in truth this mobilisation is a sham. If they couldn’t feed the initial invading hoard or give them more than a magazine of ammo and a tank of fuel, how do you think it’s going to go now that Russian logistics capacity has been so degraded and there are more mouths to feed, guns to fill with bullets and bodies to protect from heavy arms?
This is either the final roll of the dice before Putin meets his end. Or it’s a Hokey Cokey type strategy to put his left leg in so he can then take his right left out and we’ll see the continued orderly retreat.
There is also another trick he could play.
Hold the Referenda and then say that all the three regions have decided to stay with Ukraine and no to being incorporated with Russia. He can withdraw saying he's accepted the vote.
Now, I know that's unlikely but...
It's "who had most impact", rather than "best individual", isn't it? Stalin and the Ayatollah both made it.
The first two "Women of the Year" were Wallis Simpson and QEII in 1952. Could XQEII get it this year?
I'd say it will be Mr Z rather than Vlad the Mad.
Wallis Simpson in 1936, and QEII in 1952 even better.
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I don't get this. Yes, Will Smith shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. But he hit him once.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
Given the demented behaviours in the entertainment industry, well documented, slapping a guy who made a crack about your wife is practically apple pie....3 -
In the kingdom of the blind ...Taz said:
The red wall should not go back to labour until labour can offer something more substantive than just taking it for granted and doing the bare minimum. This is what labour historically did to the red wall as it always voted labour.kinabalu said:
Let's hope the reverse applies too.CorrectHorseBattery3 said:Liz seems to have given up on the Red Wall
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New large housing development? LOL. So there'll be about three boxes in whole country with C-III-R on then.LostPassword said:
You might want to put in one in a sufficiently large new housing development. I wouldn't have thought there would be many though.eristdoof said:Will they bother to make any red C-III-R letterboxes, other than an occasional ceremonial version?
The combination of the lack of individuals using mail and that the existing ones would still be standing after a nuclear explosion, means there can't be much demand for new ones any more.1 -
I think our small new village/town has four postboxes. I can imagine West Cambourne will be getting some as well - although much of the street furniture is already up in the areas not built on yet. The roads are there, bus stops up, and the streetlights on. But bare ground on either side, with no houses to be seen.LostPassword said:
You might want to put in one in a sufficiently large new housing development. I wouldn't have thought there would be many though.eristdoof said:Will they bother to make any red C-III-R letterboxes, other than an occasional ceremonial version?
The combination of the lack of individuals using mail and that the existing ones would still be standing after a nuclear explosion, means there can't be much demand for new ones any more.
(And how do I know this? Would I have gone running along the deserted streets through the development at night? Oh no, of course not...)
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"You Putin your best men InSeaShantyIrish2 said:"You can avoid open windows, and still catch your death of pneumonia." - old Ukrainian proverb
Your best men out
PutIn, Putin, shake it all about
You do the hokey cokey and you turn around
And the Ukrainians are in Moscow!" - new Ukrainian Proverb5 -
Has any news site posted a copy of the RT tweet? They post copies of tweets all the time. Bit odd if they don't post this one.Leon said:
RT tweeted it, I believe, and that’s the state broadcasterNickPalmer said:
How firm was the announcement that an address was coming - official, or Ukrainian spin?Leon said:New rumour. No Vladimir tonight
And yet the speech was pre-recorded. So this is even murkier
But I haven’t checked and I could be wrong0 -
Glancing down recent polls for trend, the libdems are suffering most from the Truss surge. 😕0
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Wheels within wheels here. The joke "What do you call a beard with no hair?" is particularly inexplicable.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
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It's really simple, do you want to have sided with the Nazis of the 21st century?rcs1000 said:
At the start of the conflict, a lot of countries' and peoples' attitudes were predicated on Russia winning.Nigelb said:Erdoğan to Putin: Return Crimea to ‘rightful owners’
Turkish leader joins parade of leaders dealing blows to Putin.
https://www.politico.eu/article/return-crimea-turkey-president-erdogan-putin-russia/
What was the point of fucking relations with Russia if they were just going to win anyway?
As the air of invincibility fades, attitudes do too. Do you want to have been on the wrong side of this? What consequences does that have in a post War world?
And so, we see a slow erosion of international support for Russia.1 -
Yes, once you have that bit of info the whole sad affair makes senseIshmaelZ said:
Wheels within wheels here. The joke "What do you call a beard with no hair?" is particularly inexplicable.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
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That is way too much money for an Oscar contender movieLeon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££0 -
Well sorry, shallow trivial me and all, but I WILL be watching Bake-Off, so Putin has blown it.
Put it in an email, Vlad.2 -
Finnish twitter usually comes up with the goods.Leon said:
Yes, once you have that bit of info the whole sad affair makes senseIshmaelZ said:
Wheels within wheels here. The joke "What do you call a beard with no hair?" is particularly inexplicable.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
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Why has Rossiya 1 been showing pictures of an empty stage for the past two hours, if someone made it up?Dynamo said:
Has any news site posted a copy of the RT tweet? They post copies of tweets all the time. Bit odd if they don't post this one.Leon said:
RT tweeted it, I believe, and that’s the state broadcasterNickPalmer said:
How firm was the announcement that an address was coming - official, or Ukrainian spin?Leon said:New rumour. No Vladimir tonight
And yet the speech was pre-recorded. So this is even murkier
But I haven’t checked and I could be wrong0 -
I fear there might be a pattern of (mis)behaviour with Will Smith going back years. And not just slapping...Malmesbury said:
I don't get this. Yes, Will Smith shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. But he hit him once.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
Given the demented behaviours in the entertainment industry, well documented, slapping a guy who made a crack about your wife is practically apple pie....0 -
Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly0 -
Best make sure that is carefully handled - Ukraine did have a problem with corruption after all.WillG said:US Department of Justice is asking Congress to transfer $300bn of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, as punishment for the referenda.
Just use it to pay for puchase of supplies I guess.0 -
I pity the guy. It is clear he is emotionally abused by his wife.JosiasJessop said:
I fear there might be a pattern of (mis)behaviour with Will Smith going back years. And not just slapping...Malmesbury said:
I don't get this. Yes, Will Smith shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. But he hit him once.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
Given the demented behaviours in the entertainment industry, well documented, slapping a guy who made a crack about your wife is practically apple pie....0 -
That's not an empty stage. It's either a 1-to-1 scale map of the terrain they've captured in the last month, or a visual representation of their military plan to conquer Ukraine.Sandpit said:
Why has Rossiya 1 been showing pictures of an empty stage for the past two hours, if someone made it up?Dynamo said:
Has any news site posted a copy of the RT tweet? They post copies of tweets all the time. Bit odd if they don't post this one.Leon said:
RT tweeted it, I believe, and that’s the state broadcasterNickPalmer said:
How firm was the announcement that an address was coming - official, or Ukrainian spin?Leon said:New rumour. No Vladimir tonight
And yet the speech was pre-recorded. So this is even murkier
But I haven’t checked and I could be wrong2 -
How about for newly-built streets of newly-built hou...eristdoof said:Will they bother to make any red C-III-R letterboxes, other than an occasional ceremonial version?
The combination of the lack of individuals using mail and that the existing ones would still be standing after a nuclear explosion, means there can't be much demand for new ones any more.
Oh. You're right.3 -
I've kept mine at 18 for years. To be honest, I find it pleasanter.Gallowgate said:
I'm doing my bit by simply not turning the heating on at all.ydoethur said:
Power blackouts are a non-trivial possibility if we carry on as before and would be a much more sure vote loser.MISTY said:
Yeah I bet gas rationing is real vote winner. What a missed opportunity.ydoethur said:Truss is an idiot. No rationing and no campaigns to limit use of gas? What a fool.
Whereas suggesting those of us who are healthy and fit turn our heating down 2C would make everything much easier.
Direct debit down to £80 per month.0 -
After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.0 -
Jim Waterson
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Peak TV ratings during Queen's funeral
BBC1: 19.5m
BBC2: 2m
ITV: 5.3m
Sky News: 934,000
BBC News channel: 831,000
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How's that fuck the BBC policy going DCMS?
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"Peskov is not getting in touch now, colleagues from the media are inside, although the presidential press secretary was bombarded with questions" t.me/mk_ru/13778“
That’s Putin’s media man, avoiding the media
https://twitter.com/faytuks/status/1572296587950567430?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
I'm more interested to know the viewing figures for the really odd channels that showed it, like, oh, Sky Sports F1 or CITV or whatever.rottenborough said:Jim Waterson
@jimwaterson
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Peak TV ratings during Queen's funeral
BBC1: 19.5m
BBC2: 2m
ITV: 5.3m
Sky News: 934,000
BBC News channel: 831,000
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How's that fuck the BBC policy going DCMS?2 -
He embarrassed the Oscars. That's what they are mad about.Malmesbury said:
I don't get this. Yes, Will Smith shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. But he hit him once.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
Given the demented behaviours in the entertainment industry, well documented, slapping a guy who made a crack about your wife is practically apple pie....
Obviously they don't give a shit about him slapping a guy, and nor did anyone else present, even though I'd argue it is actually pretty serious - since someone who would react like that, in so public a place in response to a mean joke, and not in an instantaneous way, is highly likely to have been physically violent with many other people over other slights, because he knows and knew he could get away with it.
Great actor, but probably an unstable, violent individual on the basis of that reaction.1 -
Which means it goes straight to the Defence contractors in the US.kle4 said:
Best make sure that is carefully handled - Ukraine did have a problem with corruption after all.WillG said:US Department of Justice is asking Congress to transfer $300bn of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, as punishment for the referenda.
Just use it to pay for purchase of supplies I guess.
Suddenly every Republican Congressman starts singing the Ukrainian national anthem non-stop.....2 -
It reverted to the unedited versions, says I.IshmaelZ said:
You need to work on your comma fu: Wallis Simpson, and QEII in 1952.MattW said:
He could still be man of the year.Luckyguy1983 said:...
Teehee. Not a terrible idea.moonshine said:
Now that would be amusing. Time Magazine Man of the Year, Protector of Democracy Putin.TheKitchenCabinet said:
Would agree with much of that.moonshine said:Xi Jinping’s security guarantee to Kazakhstan represents a fairly unprecedented public overreach into the “Russian sphere”. Modi and Erdogan have also issued withering statements in the last week on Russia’s war.
People here keep wetting the bed saying Putin has no out except nuclear weapons. Nonsense.
All he has to do is say, “look I tried mobilisation. But we can’t win territory for our cousins in Donbas if they aren’t prepared to fight themselves. And they are all lazy cowards and I won’t risk Russian lives on those blood traitors any longer.”
That buys him time for a fudge on crimea. And in truth this mobilisation is a sham. If they couldn’t feed the initial invading hoard or give them more than a magazine of ammo and a tank of fuel, how do you think it’s going to go now that Russian logistics capacity has been so degraded and there are more mouths to feed, guns to fill with bullets and bodies to protect from heavy arms?
This is either the final roll of the dice before Putin meets his end. Or it’s a Hokey Cokey type strategy to put his left leg in so he can then take his right left out and we’ll see the continued orderly retreat.
There is also another trick he could play.
Hold the Referenda and then say that all the three regions have decided to stay with Ukraine and no to being incorporated with Russia. He can withdraw saying he's accepted the vote.
Now, I know that's unlikely but...
It's "who had most impact", rather than "best individual", isn't it? Stalin and the Ayatollah both made it.
The first two "Women of the Year" were Wallis Simpson and QEII in 1952. Could XQEII get it this year?
I'd say it will be Mr Z rather than Vlad the Mad.
Wallis Simpson in 1936, and QEII in 1952 even better.
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We're going to get the contents of the Queen's will before we get this statement!0
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Nope. Not mad about siding with the Stalinists neither, so perhaps at least 5% less simple than you think?glw said:
It's really simple, do you want to have sided with the Nazis of the 21st century?rcs1000 said:
At the start of the conflict, a lot of countries' and peoples' attitudes were predicated on Russia winning.Nigelb said:Erdoğan to Putin: Return Crimea to ‘rightful owners’
Turkish leader joins parade of leaders dealing blows to Putin.
https://www.politico.eu/article/return-crimea-turkey-president-erdogan-putin-russia/
What was the point of fucking relations with Russia if they were just going to win anyway?
As the air of invincibility fades, attitudes do too. Do you want to have been on the wrong side of this? What consequences does that have in a post War world?
And so, we see a slow erosion of international support for Russia.
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This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
I was thinking more civil reconstruction, but allies would probably prefer that.Malmesbury said:
Which means it goes straight to the Defence contractors in the US.kle4 said:
Best make sure that is carefully handled - Ukraine did have a problem with corruption after all.WillG said:US Department of Justice is asking Congress to transfer $300bn of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, as punishment for the referenda.
Just use it to pay for purchase of supplies I guess.
Suddenly every Republican Congressman starts singing the Ukrainian national anthem non-stop.....0 -
they should make just one, and put it in Newent.Stuartinromford said:
How about for newly-built streets of newly-built hou...eristdoof said:Will they bother to make any red C-III-R letterboxes, other than an occasional ceremonial version?
The combination of the lack of individuals using mail and that the existing ones would still be standing after a nuclear explosion, means there can't be much demand for new ones any more.
Oh. You're right.
If only to give Leon a truly fascinating dilemma.1 -
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly2 -
I'm enjoying The Rings of Power so far. Not woke unless you count having elves who are black (I don't). Not seen the Dragon one yet.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly0 -
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS2 -
We're going to get the Coronation first!ydoethur said:We're going to get the contents of the Queen's will before we get this statement!
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Humiliating reverse ferret from Putin.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
It's not like he jumped a queue to see a box.Malmesbury said:
I don't get this. Yes, Will Smith shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. But he hit him once.Leon said:As we wait for Vlad, or not, the idea that Will Smith would not suffer for The Slap has proved to be delusional
“Apple has a Will Smith problem.
Mr. Smith is the star of “Emancipation,” a film set during the Civil War era that Apple envisioned as a surefire Oscar contender when it wrapped filming earlier this year. But that was before Mr. Smith strode onto the stage at the Academy Awards in March and slapped the comedian Chris Rock, who had made a joke about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Mr. Smith, who also won best actor that night, has since surrendered his membership in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and has been banned from attending any Academy-related events, including the Oscar telecast, for the next decade.
Now Apple finds itself left with a $120 million unreleased awards-style movie featuring a star no longer welcome at the biggest award show of them all, and a big question: Can the film, even if it succeeds artistically, overcome the baggage that now accompanies Mr. Smith?”
NYT - ££
Given the demented behaviours in the entertainment industry, well documented, slapping a guy who made a crack about your wife is practically apple pie....0 -
I honestly can't recall ever reading a positive opinion of SAP from an end user*, at best it is seen as a necessary evil.rcs1000 said:
Well, you are using SAP. So, it's your own fault really.Richard_Nabavi said:Completely off all topics, I have a new and compelling candidate for The Worst Piece of Software Ever Written. It's something called Ariba by SAP, and it makes even the worst Microsoft applications look brilliant in comparison.
* Obviously the sales people and consultants think it's the bee's knees.3 -
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.0 -
I've been pleasantly surprised by House of the Dragon, although I did go in with rock bottom expectations after GoT S8.wooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
Gave up on Rings of Power after the horrendously cringey scene with the Irish tinker-pirate Hobbits in the first episode.0 -
Keep away from any windows, Vlad !WillG said:
Humiliating reverse ferret from Putin.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening3 -
Yes. Or possibly he's having massive doubts and a struggle with himself.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
Yes, this looks seriously weak and nervyWillG said:
Humiliating reverse ferret from Putin.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
Hardly - what the trend shows you is or are the glaring outliers. The Conservatives on 28%, Labour on 44% and the LDs on 14% all now look outlier numbers. Deltapoll has hardly moved.MoonRabbit said:Glancing down recent polls for trend, the libdems are suffering most from the Truss surge. 😕
All have shown a slight recovery in the Conservative numbers - hardly surprising with everything going on currently. It'll take at least a month before we see if the election of Liz Truss is a game changer and as we know a lot can happen in that time.
This site enjoys the micro-analysis of every poll but it's not worth the time or the bytes, honestly.3 -
Good system - meet people halfway but going half woke and half shock.wooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
Though it does remind me I need to get around to watching Spartacus already.1 -
Johnson survived the lockdown that never was.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Would also show nukes are off the table. If Putin can't announce conscription without the powers that be blocking him, they definitely won't allow him to start armageddon.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening3 -
2.5 million ants per person. Do we think we can take them?0
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That is an authentically fuckwitted post. Sure, it's long, long odds against Vlad nuking London and it's also a no-lose bet because if he does, who is going to be posting on what PB to point out what an arse you are? But this "hur hir hur knicker wetters" stuff is pure, unadulterated, way out there wankerdom, because grown ups actually sit up and take notice when the odds shorten from 9000-1 to 25-1, even if both is still long odds against.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
There's a well loved poster here who spent Dec 2019 saying Hur hur hur, like Trump is actually going to resort to violence to overturn the result like the bedwetters say he was. After 6/1/20 he went quiet for a couple of weeks to work on the what I MEANT was script. Not gonna name him, mistake Anaboda could make.
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Is he in office but not in Power ?Leon said:
Yes, this looks seriously weak and nervyWillG said:
Humiliating reverse ferret from Putin.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
FPT:
I am suggesting that current population movements, expulsions, and refugees leaving, have been such that any referendum whatsoever done by either side will for some considerable time be a sick joke.Luckyguy1983 said:
Be that as it may, what Misty is saying is that Ukraine is no likelier to hold a genuinely free and fair referendum than Russia. Your post seems rather to imply that if the territory were to return to Ukraine, any plebiscite would be forgotten.MattW said:
Ukraine wants an existing part of Ukraine to be in Ukraine, in accordance with the referendum held at the time of independence of Ukraine, when the part of Ukraine voted to be Ukraine by a majority?MISTY said:BartholomewRoberts said:
Yes with respect its a stupid question, there's no such thing as a free and fair election when the Russian military are occupying the lands, and how are refugees currently temporarily kicked out of their homes supposed to vote in that election?MISTY said:This seems like a stupid question but if a majority of the people of Luhansk and Donetsk voted to exit Ukraine and join the Russian Federation in a free and fair election, isn't there a strong argument they should be allowed to?
Once the land is liberated and back in Ukrainian jurisdiction and peaceful and stable then a free and fair election may be possible, not until then.
Yeah I get that but is Ukraine any more likely to hold a proper plebiscite in these provinces than Russia? I don't think so. Ukraine wants this land for itself. Ditto crimea. Which is fine, but let's have it right.
No shit, Sherlock !
Something may be possible once the lands have recovered, but it will be quite a number of years - and would need (I would think) to be supervised by the UN or a similar neutral body.0 -
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Anthony Hopkins does a good job dubbing Laurence Olivier where he's having that homoerotic scene with Tony Curtis. There's only one bit where it's obvious it's not him.kle4 said:
Good system - meet people halfway but going half woke and half shock.wooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
Though it does remind me I need to get around to watching Spartacus already.0 -
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.0 -
How would martial law help anything? In the context of how the war has been presented to the Russian people that is.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ
They know that things are at best going slowly, and at worse they are being ground down. Marital law, within Russia, doesn't seem to address anything.0 -
Yes, I pray that this is true, and not my own wishful thinking. It does explain the odd behaviour todayAlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
OK as The Endtimes are at least delayed, I’m going to the gym0 -
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening1 -
That’s a pretty good impression of the Grand Old Duke of York from Putin there. Keep everyone talking for most of the evening, then don’t turn up. Half way up.WillG said:
Humiliating reverse ferret from Putin.Leon said:This does sound like a power struggle. Hence the delayed speech?
BREAKING: There will be no general mobilization," according to Andrey Kartapolov, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense says.
At the same time, he states that martial law "could be introduced in some places.
https://twitter.com/anonopsse/status/1572299186506469376?s=21&t=Z2fXj0Ujt4aXj--4yjIAKQ0 -
And, bluntly, for international relations other countries except in very rare cases are inclined to ask the controlling goverment to be nice to all its areas, rather than demand they hold plebiscites even if those people ask for it.MattW said:FPT:
I am suggesting that current population movements, expulsions, and refugees leaving, have been such that any referendum whatsoever done by either side will for some considerable time be a sick joke.Luckyguy1983 said:
Be that as it may, what Misty is saying is that Ukraine is no likelier to hold a genuinely free and fair referendum than Russia. Your post seems rather to imply that if the territory were to return to Ukraine, any plebiscite would be forgotten.MattW said:
Ukraine wants an existing part of Ukraine to be in Ukraine, in accordance with the referendum held at the time of independence of Ukraine, when the part of Ukraine voted to be Ukraine by a majority?MISTY said:BartholomewRoberts said:
Yes with respect its a stupid question, there's no such thing as a free and fair election when the Russian military are occupying the lands, and how are refugees currently temporarily kicked out of their homes supposed to vote in that election?MISTY said:This seems like a stupid question but if a majority of the people of Luhansk and Donetsk voted to exit Ukraine and join the Russian Federation in a free and fair election, isn't there a strong argument they should be allowed to?
Once the land is liberated and back in Ukrainian jurisdiction and peaceful and stable then a free and fair election may be possible, not until then.
Yeah I get that but is Ukraine any more likely to hold a proper plebiscite in these provinces than Russia? I don't think so. Ukraine wants this land for itself. Ditto crimea. Which is fine, but let's have it right.
No shit, Sherlock !
Something may be possible once the lands have recovered, but it will be quite a number of years - and would need (I would think) to be supervised by the UN or a similar neutral body.1 -
Chill, hun, there is so much noise from Gotterdammerung in the stats, you just gotta give it 2 weeks to settle down.MoonRabbit said:Glancing down recent polls for trend, the libdems are suffering most from the Truss surge. 😕
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This delay is the crisis point in Moscow imho.
We'll see how solidly in power Vlad is now. If he prevails things could get very nasty(ier).1 -
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/20/09/2022/6329b1179a79473c04dcbb84?from=from_main_1
"Владимир Путин во вторник, 20 сентября, может высказать свое отношение к референдумам на территории ЛНР, ДНР, Херсонской и Запорожской областей."
16:16 Moscow time, so 2.16pm BST.
That says Putin MAY set out his attitude towards referendums in those four regions, later today. RBC say they heard this from three sources close to the administration. They sent a query to the president's press secretary.0 -
Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…0 -
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Vladimir Putins speech on Ukraine did not happen at 20-00 as it was announced, and it not clear when it will be aired. Journalists from the Kremlin pool were writing just half an hour ago that they are "waiting", but it does not seem like something is to happen today0 -
Hardly a surprise, Truss is the first PM who has been a member of the Liberal Democrats and addressed a Liberal Democrat conferenceMoonRabbit said:Glancing down recent polls for trend, the libdems are suffering most from the Truss surge. 😕
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The lack of a general mobilisation seemed odd to me as well, but from the very start of this mess every western commentator I've read (and some Russian ones) said or insinuated that it would be very problematic domestically. And there were indications: back in March, Putin had to make an embarrassing apology that conscripts had been sent, which was against the law at the time.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
I wonder how much it's a throwback to Russia's hideous Afghanistan experience, and the brave women (e.g. the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers) who stood against it?0 -
I reckon they don't want to be banned from leaving the country.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
That Holland Park pad won't live in itself.0 -
It all seems rather weird. We can probably now expect a damp squib of an announcement, relatively speaking, but at what level would people have known whatever he said in advance and been able to forestall him? Or what could have happened to make him decide it needed another draft before it was released?dixiedean said:This delay is the crisis point in Moscow imho.
We'll see how solidly in power Vlad is now. If he prevails things could get very nasty(ier).0 -
He's dead. And the deepfake annoucing the climbdown is rubbish.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Bolshoy Bridge has fallen...?dixiedean said:This delay is the crisis point in Moscow imho.
We'll see how solidly in power Vlad is now. If he prevails things could get very nasty(ier).0 -
"Putin's speech has been postponed until tomorrow, said Sergei Markov, a political analyst close to the Kremlin"0
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Someone's frantically phoning round the celeb look-a-like organisations?Foss said:
He's dead. And the deepfake annoucing the climbdown is rubbish.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening1 -
Mind you he was hampered by some mediocre scripts.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.
He had a hard act to follow in David Tennant and Peter Capaldi coming after him was solid too.0 -
Possibly true. But during the Vietnam era the business and political class seemed to find ways to keep their sons out of the draft. Bush for example.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
They sat on Putin and told him to rein it in0
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Indeed.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
PB is unbearable at times like this, I often wonder how these people ever leave the house in the mornings.1 -
Sign him upsolarflare said:
Someone's frantically phoning round the celeb look-a-like organisations?Foss said:
He's dead. And the deepfake annoucing the climbdown is rubbish.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
https://en.as.com/en/2022/03/05/latest_news/1646514702_014034.html0 -
Does KCIII get invited to Putin's state funeral - and does he go?RochdalePioneers said:
Bolshoy Bridge has fallen...?dixiedean said:This delay is the crisis point in Moscow imho.
We'll see how solidly in power Vlad is now. If he prevails things could get very nasty(ier).0 -
If true that's encouraging, in that he is still able to be reined in.Leon said:They sat on Putin and told him to rein it in
Good time to be a doctor whose income needs supplementing.rottenborough said:
Possibly true. But during the Vietnam era the business and political class seemed to find ways to keep their sons out of the draft. Bush for example.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Sure but Vietnam-era US didn't have an autocratic government that could ensure their sons went if you didn't do the necessary demands of the regime. Russians don't trust their government.rottenborough said:
Possibly true. But during the Vietnam era the business and political class seemed to find ways to keep their sons out of the draft. Bush for example.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Can't rich Russians avoid the draft as easily as rich Americans for Vietnam?WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0
