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YouGov finds that just 40% of the youngest voters support the monarchy. – politicalbetting.com

After more than a week when the total focus of the vast majority of people in the UK has been on the monarchy, YouGov has produced the above interesting polling which I’ve no doubt will be referred to again and again.
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On a completely different topic, it’s time to start keeping an eye on weather conditions for the coming gas-limited winter.
It’s just starting to get cold enough for domestic and commercial heating in some of the cooler parts of Europe, and dark enough for meaningful electricity usage from lighting. The ideal weather conditions through the winter and next spring are:
- Windy in North and Western Europe, to get the wind turbines firing
- Sunny in Southern Europe for solar (winter sun is too weak to make a difference in the North)
- Wet in Norway to maximise their hydro electric output
- Mild across the whole continent (though ideally freezing in the Donbass for all those poorly clad Russian soldiers)
Ie a strongly positive North Atlantic Oscillation and screaming westerlies.
The first batch of seasonal climate forecasts are not encouraging. They’re showing higher than normal pressure in the North Atlantic and low pressure over the Med. Which means limited wind for the turbines, dry weather in Norway, low light levels in Southern Europe, and cold weather in Germany and C Europe. Ie a negative NAO. Good news for Putin if it happens.
Today is an example of what we want in the UK. Wind at decent 10gw, solar hitting 7gw, nuclear at the top of its recent range* and CCGT generation only 3.8gw with most turbines idle.
*though note top of recent range is barely over 4gw vs around 6-7gw a few years ago.
-dissolution of the monarchy
-end of FPTP
-re-entering the EU
-unification of Ireland
-federalisation
All in the lifetime of HYUFD.
With the Tories in power: don't even think about it.
With Labour: think for two seconds where the votes it needs to get come from - Tory pro monarchists; and its current vote is plurality pro monarchy.
This is a complete diversion from the interesting question of how it should develop and change.
If there were really such a thing as hereditary difference in ability (which there isn't), they wouldn't need segregated schools or for that matter the personal inheritance of wealth either. They'd get to the top because of how clever they were. The British ruling class know deep down that it's they who are dirt, dishonest thicko thieving dirt. That's why they "think" everyone else is, and recognise each other as "proper" by means of such a shared belief.
Even on here, you get some of them doing things like boasting how much they've spent on meals. I mean, seriously, how much more common as muck can you get than telling everyone how much you've paid for something?
Just a few weeks ago, in the Primary debate he said:
"I signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that Trump won the election, and, damnit, I stand by my letter"
Yesterday he said:
"I’ve spent the past couple weeks talking to Granite Staters all over the state from every party, and I have come to the conclusion—and I want to be definitive on this—the election was not stolen"
And you presumably despise the proles too for their contented wallowing in their prolery, because look at the furthest right column in the header and how littlethey diverge from the ABCs about the monarchy.
I have been busy today but have reviewed todays thread, and indeed last nights, and I would like to make the following observations
It is beyond doubt that the death of the Queen has been a profound event that has upset an enormous number of people, both here and across the globe
The queues are quite unique, and are unlikely to be seen again but to those attempting to create division for their own agenda, including comments on the make up of the crowd, I would just say they are manifestly wrong as there is no doubt we have a varied and broad cultural make up in the UK
Furthermore, I would suggest to republicans, that there are times when sowing division does not benefit their cause and antagonises far more than is necessary, and perversely strengthens the monarchy
I respect greatly @Casino_Royale for the way he wore his heart on his sleeve, and I also respect those who would seek a republic but quietly allow the millions to grieve in whatever way they find solace and even closure
Monday will be remarkable and an enormous global event showcasing the UK at it's best and for once can we just put aside brexit, republicanism, and division and just be immensely proud of our country
I have noticed this forum has a couple of posters, obviously under instruction from Moscow but they are best ignored
Politics can recommence on Tuesday and it will be a very interesting two years to the next GE
Any political institution in the world would kill every kitten in the catteries of Kilburn to get these figures of support
I thought the young weren’t meant to care about this old crone yet 63% of them report being at least a little upset
in the age range 25-49 53% support the monarchy and only 27% oppose - so that’s 2 to 1. And the figures get, of course, much higher as you go up the ages
Unless Charles actually stabs his own children with one of those leaky pens we are decades from the monarchy being remotely imperilled
It's the footwear where it becomes wearisome; loose talk about £6,000 a pair polo boots and so on. repulsive.
Unless Labour get going we won't even enter EFTA/EEA.
End of monarchy? Literally Zero possibility. Compare their support against support for any other option. Then consider the political danger. Then ask whether either a Labour or Tory leader will put a monarchy referendum in a manifesto. It isn't going to happen.
In Jeremy Corbyn's words on the subject "We are not going to do it".
Move on.
Italy (as always seems to be the case these days) really is the laggard.
Or an excessive optimist.
Whatever your political preferences this seems pretty much unanswerable.
The monarchy can handle things getting lukewarm. It's people being strongly against that would be an issue.
That's why its if there is a clash between crown and Tory government that problems would come.
https://twitter.com/Teri_Kanefield/status/1570967096842153984
OK. we have the DOJ's motion in the 11th Circuit for a partial stay pending appeal.
As before, the request is limited to the 100 docs marked classified, "the portions of the order causing the most serious and immediate harm. . . "
Are you really saying that there is absolutely no genetic component of intelligence?
That's quite a claim.
https://www.rferl.org/amp/azerbaijan-increase-eu-gas-exports/32029812.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
And these figures must be seen in context. One of the Late Queen’s sons, Prince Andrew, has been exposed as (allegedly?) a horrible pedophile, a predatory monster who has to pay off his victims. He is such a scandal he has to be hidden away until it is unavoidable that he is seen, then he is hidden away again
He narrowly avoided a rape trial in New York
Meanwhile a beautiful black woman who married into the family is claiming they are all racist
It’s about as bad as it gets. It is hard to envisage a worse context for the Royal Family, within the realms of the Likely. I guess Prince William could join the Wagner group and be seen shooting Ukrainian ballet dancers? Apart from that any deeper scandal strikes me as highly improbable
And still the monarchy has rock solid support. Two to one or more. It isn’t going anywhere
Greece 1924
Greece 1973
Iceland 1944
Italy 1946
Excellent for Prince George's prospects around 2070 or so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_monarchy
“Peaceful” Abolition does happen, but it always seems to come after some enormous political, military, financial, or even familial (Nepal) trauma
Well, then, why don't you correct the mistaken comments I see so often here? (I didn't name individuals who were making those mistakes, because I think that -- usually -- hinders rational discussion.)
And here, I suspect, are three things you didn't know about "ObamaCare", as it is often called:
1. It included a tax on "Cadillac" plans, private plans that were too generous.
2. It resulted in the closing of rural hospitals. (If you want more details, look for an article by Anemona Hartocollis in the NYT some years ago.
3. After it had been in effect for some years, life expectancy in the United States fell, beginning in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Life_expectancy
Nor is it likely that you know that George W. Bush proposed a substantial expansion of Medicare benefits, Part D, which passed. (Incidentally, that has probably had positive effects outside the United States. By increasing the expenditure for drugs here, it probably incentivized American drug companies to spend more on research.)
Are we allowed to say Andrew is deffo a P-word? Is he lawyering those that do?
Most of Italy is remarkable unwindy.
had to do a runner
had to do a runner
Side effect of independence
Borderline pass, but relevant events over previous 6 years
my point stands: losing the monarchy will be a side effect of something else. We won't just think Let's have a monarchyref like we think Let's have an indyref.
From Republic to Empire, and it was as an Empire that it reached its remarkable zenith
After Covid : “the second greatest contributor to the decline in life expectancy is accidental injury, driven primarily by drug overdoses, which killed over 100,000 U.S. residents last year.” (CDC Report, 2022)
US Life Expectancy is now 76. Which is mind boggling. It is now lower than Panama, Iran or Sri Lanka
Come on @RobD, the monarchical system isn't that hard to understand.
Fun fact, Charles II was proclaimed King in Jersey 11 years before he was in England.
(They’ve certainly provided substantial financial aid, for example.)
https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1571110300484792321
The German government has approved Ukraine's request for more RCH-155 howitzers. However, the manufacturer will be able to produce them for Ukraine no earlier than the first half of 2025, reports Welt am Sonntag citing
@MelnykAndrij and documents received from the manufacturer…
It’s clearly not an insignificant problem in general.
Poland, for example, just ordered several billion dollars worth of a S Korean F16 derivative light fighter (with inferior performance), because they aren’t prepared to wait years for deliveries of new F16s from the US, and the Korean jet (the FA-50) is available very quickly.
The Rome thing is a fantastic story - the best there is almost, with a cast of characters that make Trump, Boris, Putin and co look like lightweights. Great to read, terrible to live through.
How the F does that happen in our system? iIf the vile Andrew and the sad case of Meghan aren’t enough to provoke republican unrest, then what will do it? And what party is going to expend ENORMOUS political capital to get it done, a traumatic change which will cost billions, and for what? if Abolition wins, we get a ceremonial president, who will be the most boring, inoffensive person anyone can imagine, so we will have President Ed Sheeran
Great! We can have Lego House as our new anthem (we would have to change the anthem, along with much else). But….. unlikely to happen
Tories are less popular with the young than ever its the disproportionate support of the old even compared with 10 years ago that is keeping them in power
Back in the 80s and 90s there were plenty of old labour voters..not so much now
So the Tories have pushed things as far as they can now. The more they appease their old core vote the more disgust the young feel with them and the sharper the backlash
From an NYTimes article at the start of the year:
There is a shortage of everything from protective vests to thermal underwear. Radio equipment is 30 years out of date. Only one in three warships is ready to deploy — so few that the navy worries it cannot meet all its international commitments.
Even in Rukla, the flagship German NATO mission which has relatively few complaints when it comes to resources, the general scarcity has been felt.
Some of the armored vehicles are five decades old. During international exercises in Lithuania, their equipment routinely made the German units “the weakest link in the chain,” soldiers reported to the parliamentary commissioner for the armed forces on their return from tours in Rukla.
What should I eat next?
Small crop of apples but good size and flavour:
Bumper crop of pears, also good size, need to ripen a little more:
Nashi pears prolific and delicious. These are my favourite, but are rarely grown commercially because they bruise so easily.
But while they’re perhaps an extreme example, very similar comments could be made for most of Europe up until this year’s invasion.
At least some of the reluctance to supply Ukraine with the more modern and potent weapons is that our own militaries are quite nervous about the effect on their own capabilities.
Which is why Turkish and S Korean defence manufacturers are making out like bandits.
The dealers spike the “milder” drugs with Fentanyl as I understand, and Fentanyl is stronger, cheaper and Satanically addictive. And so the poor junkie is hooked
But I am not an expert drug addict any more, thank God. Perhaps I am wrong
One of the more notable things about the debate in Germany (and opinions are quite sharply divided there, I think ?) is the opacity of the government’s position.
The average Roman citizen probably had a better life than any human up to the Renaissance, even when the emperors were slaughtering each other
Of course, slavery is the great blemish, but slavery was not unique to Rome
(And I do believe federalisation is closer than most PBers think.)
Very few are at a party, and there's a guy with a little bit of brown and a lighter, and a bit of silver foil.
People get prescribed opiates in the US far too easily. (I have some Tramadol I should never have been given.) And they find the effects very pleasant, and so they tell the doctor that the pain really hasn't gone away...
Hmmm
It is worth remembering, though, that Trump didn't actually want the Germans to spend more money on defence: he wanted the Germans to cut the US a cheque.