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Kaboom! Javid resigns once more, but is he first of many? – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 11,003
edited July 2022 in General
Kaboom! Javid resigns once more, but is he first of many? – politicalbetting.com

I have spoken to the Prime Minister to tender my resignation as Secretary of State for Health & Social Care. It has been an enormous privilege to serve in this role, but I regret that I can no longer continue in good conscience. pic.twitter.com/d5RBFGPqXp

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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    It's over.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    2nd. Like someone in a forthcoming leadership contest next month.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    edited July 2022
    Fourth.

    As in "fourth rate Prime Minister".
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,049
    Kaboom, indeed. Good on him.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    I bet Coffey next.

    Or maybe the leadership runners will panic and run for exit one after the other tonight.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,901
    Rishi next and Gove in the morning. Gone before PMQs imo
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,844
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,243
    In answer to my question, the answer is Peter Mandelson.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    edited July 2022
    Is Raab likely to be the next (caretaker) PM?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Sunak gone
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,002
    edited July 2022

    I bet Coffey next.

    You've put the mochas on it now.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,210

    Have I mentioned OGH is busy today and tonight's date for me?

    I hope you both have a great time!
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Scott_xP said:
    Fantastic
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    Ultimately any leader relies on the team that supports them. You simply cannot keep embarrassing them and demanding of them. At some point they ask what they are getting out of it.

    Do Tory MPs and Members punish the first big beasts to go though, as not being loyal, even if they agree Boris needs to go?

    Boris Johnson Premiership - 2 years 346 days and counting

    Theresa May Premiership - 3 years 11 days.

    He should manage to get past that without a mass resignation and coronation.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,901
    Its over
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    Rishi gone according to Beth Rigby
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    MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    'Pincher movement'

    .....Very good....
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,692
    Ouch. He's gone


    This is going to overshadow the much-anticipated launch of "dorkus of the porkus morkus", isn't it?

    Oh well
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Popcorn marathon this evening kids.

    With lashings of wine to help the laughs along.

    The rats will run for the exit now as Javid has just stolen a massive march on them all.

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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748

    In answer to my question, the answer is Peter Mandelson.

    You'd totally sidestepped us into frog territory.
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,761
    Well that header lasted about 30 seconds
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    In defence of Javid, who no doubt is partially motivated by an attempt top sieze momentum and take the top job for himself, we know for a fact that he has been willing to resign before on at least some point of principle. So in part it may be genuine.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,002

    Have I mentioned OGH is busy today and tonight's date for me?

    In answer to my question, the answer is Peter Mandelson.

    He's your date?
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    YokesYokes Posts: 1,200
    Well thats it then isnt it. Putsch is on, I thought it was going to be in May or June.

    No rush lads.
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,243
    Wow. Quite the letter.

    Well done him. Should have done it weeks ago but at least he HAS done it.

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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Sunak gone
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Told you - it is Sunak-Javid double act
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    You wait 25 years for a Portillo Moment and then two come along at once...
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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,761
    Was watching Wimbledon, but switched to Sky News as it's a bit more exciting at the moment
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,201
    Peter Bone as Chancellor it is then..
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Graham Brady needs to tell Johnson to resign tonight
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,976
    That Sunak letter does shed some light on just how unhappy he was
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,174
    Complete nuclear meltdown for the Government!
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,692
    Why would you STAY in the Cabinet now?

    Anyone who does looks like a craven fool
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,095
    Scott_xP said:
    Johnson out by morning. In fact, possibly by 9pm.

    He cannot survive this.
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    PhilPhil Posts: 1,928
    Double whammy!
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    HeathenerHeathener Posts: 5,243

    Its over

    Wow
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,243
    This might be the longest thread header title in the history of PB by the end of the night.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited July 2022
    The public rightly expect government to be conducted properly, competently and seriously.

    I recognise this may be my last ministerial job, but I believe these standards are worth fighting for and that is why I am resigning.

    https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1544368323625947137?s=20&t=1eV1wDsFsk4qmtkRZa0sxg
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    edited July 2022
    It is now officially over.

    Just the matter of security removing him from Downing Street now.

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    CatManCatMan Posts: 2,761

    Peter Bone as Chancellor it is then..

    No, step forward Michael Fabricant!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    Anecdote alert - My relative's immediate reaction is 'It all seems a bit silly. All the crap going on in the world and all they care about is bitching about things'.

    He is a Boris fan, as it happens. But he seemed resigned more than angry.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,310
    (FPT)
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:


    Scott_xP said:

    I have spoken to the Prime Minister to tender my resignation as Secretary of State for Health & Social Care.

    It has been an enormous privilege to serve in this role, but I regret that I can no longer continue in good conscience. https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1544366218789937152/photo/1

    Probably looking terminal now for
    Johnson
    Not necessarily, Javid stood against Johnson for the leadership in 2019 and was a Remainer
    It's over @HYUFD

    Absolutely delighted
    Corbyn survived frequent resignations
    COTD !
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,226
    edited July 2022

    In answer to my question, the answer is Peter Mandelson.

    I'd imagine Peter Mandelson might have more urgent business tonight.
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    pingping Posts: 3,731
    Sunak gone.

    Big dog will be imminently put down.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,210
    edited July 2022
    Leon said:

    Ouch. He's gone


    This is going to overshadow the much-anticipated launch of "dorkus of the porkus morkus", isn't it?

    Oh well

    Your aliens had better land soon and take their Johnson back home with them
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    Wow, lets do this! Get the c*** out!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609

    Have I mentioned OGH is busy today and tonight's date for me?

    Have they considered the romantic ideal that is watching scrolling political news all evening?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Leon said:

    Why would you STAY in the Cabinet now?

    Anyone who does looks like a craven fool

    Dorries and JRM ?
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    Sunak's letter is fascinating.

    It sounds like Johnson wanted to splash the cash next week and Sunak has refused.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Jonathan said:

    Is Raab likely to be the next (caretaker) PM?

    I think so. But only if he is not running. Palace will appoint interim who is not a runner and rider.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,692
    ohnotnow said:
    That "kind regards" at the end. Et tu, Brute?
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,200
    Farkn'ell
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    Who's up next then?
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,049
    Rejoice!
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    Trussticles may have dropped a bollock
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,976
    Will his ego let him resign? I don’t reckon it will
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    So, with such big beasts gone his chances of staying are much lower. Will so many go he has to quit and be replaced as PM immediately, or can he stay on until a new party leader can be elected?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    edited July 2022
    This is Labour's worst nightmare
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,160
    Cabinet resignations edged all day like a PornHub sublicant
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,310
    Looking mildly encouraging for my 'out by conference' position. :smile:
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Kevin Schofield
    @KevinASchofield
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    3m
    They think it's all over, it is now ...
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,210
    I wait for my MP pitifully to be asking whether the island’s local council will still be getting its extra money….
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    squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,325
    Hurrah. Let's hope it forces Boris to resign.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,226
    Betfair Boris out in 2022 now 1.1.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,901
    Gove is too clued up to stay. Unless he is the bouncer
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    Looks like the end. What the hell took them so long? It's not as though we've learnt anything about Boris this week that we didn't know last month, or last year, or in 2019 when he was chosen as leader.

    Still, it's progress. Getting rid of him is the necessary first stage - but only the first stage - of putting things right.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Thoughts and prays for Starmer this evening.

    Once again the ruthless machine that is the Tory party moves to make sure they have a good chance of winning again.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,095
    Johnson incidentally may be unable to stay as caretaker if he cannot get any9ne to serve as Chancellor. That hasn't happened since 1916.
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    OmniumOmnium Posts: 9,748

    This is Labour worst nightmare

    Perhaps G bloke, but it's not far off a Tory nightmare and this one is real!
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,914

    This is Labour worst nightmare

    No, it's not. Believe me, it's not. It's just fantastic to see the Johnson regime dying.

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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    "what's next for the Prime Minister?"

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1544370034058973185
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,692

    This is Labour worst nightmare

    It really isn't

    Boris staying on was ideal for them, but they still get the 2nd prize, total turmoil in the Tory Party

    OTOH Starmer may yet get a FPN
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    I topped up on Javid at 20 about ten mins ago - now 12.

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    It's barely 2.5 years since the GE, which he won handsomely. Covid disrupted his intended plans, but also meant 'normal' politics was more or less suspended.

    How the heck has he gotten himself in a position where a majority of backbenchers and now many in the Cabinet want him out? No one who wins that big should make themselves so vulnerable.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,210
    edited July 2022
    Boris not PM by Tory Conference still 1.1 at BFE
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,914
    Truss has been totally outmanoeuvred here. Bless her.
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    wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,901
    edited July 2022
    By election in Uxbridge is a certainty
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,200
    I'm on Raab next Cons leader. Betting doesn't seem to have moved. What are the rules/criteria?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140

    Trussticles may have dropped a bollock

    She may need medical help to be honest as the "lads" have out run her here.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    Leon said:

    This is Labour worst nightmare

    It really isn't

    Boris staying on was ideal for them, but they still get the 2nd prize, total turmoil in the Tory Party

    OTOH Starmer may yet get a FPN
    Talk about icing on the cake for excitement - PM goes, but the LOTO has already promised to resign if X happens. Step up Sir Ed wotsisname?
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,799
    Boris ringing OGH now to get him back online.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    Cheer up, it could be worse. We could have had a coalition of chaos with Ed Miliband.
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    LeonLeon Posts: 46,692

    By election in Uxbridge is a certainty

    Indeed. No way he stays in the Commons as a backbencher. Off to earn shagloads of cash
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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Have I mentioned OGH is busy today and tonight's date for me?

    Overdoing it at his age?
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    MaxPB said:

    Wow, lets do this! Get the c*** out!

    Is that you saying that or are you quoting Truss?
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,905
    Leon said:




    OTOH Starmer may yet get a FPN

    I'm not sure PB could cope.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,147
    So will we get a few hours of Nadine as Chancellor?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Omnium said:

    This is Labour worst nightmare

    Perhaps G bloke, but it's not far off a Tory nightmare and this one is real!
    The nightmare has been Johnson since Paterson and this is absolutely necessary to start the process of redemption
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited July 2022
    And here comes...! He's got...Some people are on the pitch! They think it's all over! ....
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    MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    ydoethur said:

    Johnson incidentally may be unable to stay as caretaker if he cannot get any9ne to serve as Chancellor. That hasn't happened since 1916.

    Well he was trying to get Carrie a job.....?
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,147

    Truss has been totally outmanoeuvred here. Bless her.

    Heart of stone etc...
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,050
    ‘Pincher Movement’ !! Very good
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    Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 32,844
    BoZO is going to try and appoint a new chancellor
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,577
    edited July 2022
    kle4 said:

    In defence of Javid, who no doubt is partially motivated by an attempt top sieze momentum and take the top job for himself, we know for a fact that he has been willing to resign before on at least some point of principle. So in part it may be genuine.

    Hmm. That's quite a reflection on Mr Johnson and his cabinet ministers - especially the latter - that there is even this basic assumption that they are fibbing.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,609
    Sunak: The public rightly expect government to be conducted properly, competently and seriously

    1) I'm not sure they do expect it, but they should.

    2) It never bothered you before now?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,002

    Truss has been totally outmanoeuvred here. Bless her.

    Not if she gets appointed Chancellor, Boris clings on for a while longer, and she repeats John Major's trajectory from Foreign Secretary to Number 10.
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