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  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    Nothing stops Trump 24 now, the Democrats have blown it. Biden was a disastrous pick, Harris worse. There's a reason she got like minus 500% in the primaries. And both will be revenge impeached after Novembers slaughter. Gonna get very messy.
    It's a worry, yes, but I can see various things stopping him regaining the White House and I think at least one of them will happen. As for the Dems, Harris seems to be widely disliked (and I need a lot of persuading that misogyny isn't a factor) but I don't agree Biden was a bad pick. He was a great pick for one massive reason - he was the only option for beating Trump. If it weren't for him we'd most likely have Trump2 NOW. Shudders.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    Pretty old kit, but useful nonetheless.

    https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1537442613833281539
    🇬🇧The UK has purchased and is refurbishing more than 20 long range guns – M109s – from a Belgian arms company which it is sending to Ukraine, Defence Secretary @BWallaceMP has said.
    These heavy weapons fire 155mm rounds.


    Probably M109A4s ?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    OnboardG1 said:

    One…bad…apple. Jesus. Don’t these people remember the second half of that phrase?
    Don't spoil the whole bunch, girl?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,400
    MISTY said:


    That Remainer worldview in full....


    Not standing by Ukraine and doing deals to carve up the country with Putin..........Germany BAD!!!


    Dragging Britain through the courts on the Northern Ireland Protocol......Germany GOOD!!!

    There's also the fact that the German army is incredibly badly equipped.

    Did you read the story from January, looking at one of Germany's front line divisions that was shipped off to the Baltics. It was missing tonnes of equipment and weaponry.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,607
    malcolmg said:

    Red, bit of a pain not knowing when you will peg it. Do you let rip and end up skint for years or watch how you go peg it early and leave a shedload for the children.
    My advice when working was that in the first few years after retirement, you will spend more than you think you will; holidays, eating out, etc. As you get older, mid 70s, expenditure will reduce as you do less of these things. Older still, 80s and over, expenditure will increase again, as you need to pay people to do the things you can no longer do yourselves, plus heating costs increase. Is that the experience of more mature PBers?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,674
    rcs1000 said:

    The current bout of inflation is shit for those who have savings, but it allows the real value of peoples' debts to be inflated away, and also means that house prices can come back in line with earnings without painful and difficult negative equity.

    Covid and Vlad may have done us all a big favour in helping us rebalance our economy.
    Hurrah for Vlad.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,852
    nico679 said:

    There’s no hope for the USA . It’s fast becoming a failed state .
    There was a YouGov poll earlier this year that showed that 46% Americans think a civil war is likely in their lifetimes, with only 36% thinking it is unlikely.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,786
    Scott_xP said:

    NEW: The Tory candidate in the Wakefield by-election has said voters should still back the Conservatives because “we still trust GPs” after Harold Shipman killed 250 people.

    Nadeem Ahmed says Imran Ahmad Khan was just "one bad apple".

    Story: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/06/16/wakefield-byelection-candidate-conservative-nadeem-ahmed-tory/ https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1537439707818209280/video/1

    If that's the best the Tories can come up with in a key by-election, they're in trouble. I know it's only a short clip, but - how can I put this? - he seems embarrassingly dense.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    The contract for 50 odd of these cost us a billion plus...

    https://twitter.com/geoallison/status/1537376479692132357
    A British Army Watchkeeper drone has crashed into the sea off Cyprus, you can see on this live tracking feed the moment contact was lost with the aircraft.

    We've lost seven so far.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty old kit, but useful nonetheless.

    https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1537442613833281539
    🇬🇧The UK has purchased and is refurbishing more than 20 long range guns – M109s – from a Belgian arms company which it is sending to Ukraine, Defence Secretary @BWallaceMP has said.
    These heavy weapons fire 155mm rounds.


    Probably M109A4s ?

    Distinction is pretty academic as IIRC the differences within the M109 family are mainly whether the gun barrels are long, very long or absurdly long, and those are easily changed at upgrade. The rest is detail fripperies like radios, and where one puts the sleeping bags and uses a MG3 or 0.5"/12.7mm M2HB. Perhaps some imrpvoements to the engine and ammo handling.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    edited June 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    The current bout of inflation is shit for those who have savings, but it allows the real value of peoples' debts to be inflated away, and also means that house prices can come back in line with earnings without painful and difficult negative equity.

    Covid and Vlad may have done us all a big favour in helping us rebalance our economy.
    The current bout of inflation is not just sh8t for those with savings though. It is sh8t for anybody on a low or moderate wage, isn't it?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Wonderful, as are the tenement blocks of Morningside and the like for the more well to do. Scotland can teach the rest of the UK a lot about housing.
    For every Morningside, there’s also a Gorbals. Or was, before they flattened most of it.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    MISTY said:

    I think you would be 100% correct in that calculation, from your political viewpoint.

    Trump 2 would be Trumpier than Trump 1 surely. The party is being purged. Neo-cons are getting targeted and beaten in primaries by Trump backed candidates. The ones that are even bothering to stand. Some just threw in the towel and did not bother.
    Hey c'mon, it's not from my political viewpoint, it's from the viewpoint of all but the small of brain and/or mean of spirit. And less of that "neocons" thing if you please. There might be some neocons amongst those being purged but their neoconniness isn't their offence. Their offence is not signing up with sufficient enthusiasm to the Big Lie about the "stolen" 2020 election.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,135

    If that's the best the Tories can come up with in a key by-election, they're in trouble. I know it's only a short clip, but - how can I put this? - he seems embarrassingly dense.

    Note to all candidates - as well as not mentioning serial killers when being interviewed, it's usually best not to stand in front of one of your opponents' election posters. https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1537439707818209280
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,607
    Carnyx said:

    I've been impressed by the council houses built around here under the SNP 2010 onwards after a long drought under Labour. They're not huge, but from the outside they seem decent places - a backyard, solar panels, off road parking. Labour seem to be picking up the challenge too which is good news.
    Our daughter lives in a housing association development. Some of the houses are rented and some are bought on a shared equity basis. There is no difference in the houses. All houses are of high quality and spacious.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    Scott_xP said:

    Note to all candidates - as well as not mentioning serial killers when being interviewed, it's usually best not to stand in front of one of your opponents' election posters. https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1537439707818209280
    Our favourite by-election opponent too!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    Carnyx said:

    Distinction is pretty academic as IIRC the differences within the M109 family are mainly whether the gun barrels are long, very long or absurdly long, and those are easily changed at upgrade. The rest is detail fripperies like radios, and where one puts the sleeping bags and uses a MG3 or 0.5"/12.7mm M2HB. Perhaps some improvements to the engine and ammo handling.
    Some of the later kit can handle longer range rounds; also the navigation and targeting systems greatly improved over time.

    Some of that could well have been retrofitted, though.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,786
    Scott_xP said:

    Note to all candidates - as well as not mentioning serial killers when being interviewed, it's usually best not to stand in front of one of your opponents' election posters. https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1537439707818209280
    Yes, I saw that. Free publicity for Mr Herdson.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    kinabalu said:

    Don't spoil the whole bunch, girl?
    Rots the whole barrel.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Scott_xP said:

    Note to all candidates - as well as not mentioning serial killers when being interviewed, it's usually best not to stand in front of one of your opponents' election posters. https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1537439707818209280
    We are truly living in the Ianucciverse.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,924
    rcs1000 said:

    The current bout of inflation is shit for those who have savings, but it allows the real value of peoples' debts to be inflated away, and also means that house prices can come back in line with earnings without painful and difficult negative equity.

    Covid and Vlad may have done us all a big favour in helping us rebalance our economy.
    Surely bailing out the over-indebted creates a moral hazard, just like bailing out the banks did.

    Our savings ratio is bad enough as it is.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,219
    Nigelb said:

    Pretty old kit, but useful nonetheless.

    https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1537442613833281539
    🇬🇧The UK has purchased and is refurbishing more than 20 long range guns – M109s – from a Belgian arms company which it is sending to Ukraine, Defence Secretary @BWallaceMP has said.
    These heavy weapons fire 155mm rounds.


    Probably M109A4s ?

    I believe that several countries have sent M109s already - so it would make sense to try and reduce the number of different types of equipment.

    I recall a report that Ukraine had bought some already - from a Belgian company. Presumably this is the same outfit - they bought (IIRC) the Belgian Army fleet of them when they were retired.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,607
    malcolmg said:

    Could they still dock ships as big as that in Leith nowadays
    There are plans to build a ferry terminal at Cockenzie. Sounds a good idea as long as something is done about the Edinburgh City Bypass.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,400
    edited June 2022

    Nothing stops Trump 24 now, the Democrats have blown it. Biden was a disastrous pick, Harris worse. There's a reason she got like minus 500% in the primaries. And both will be revenge impeached after Novembers slaughter. Gonna get very messy.
    He may not be the candidate.

    Did you see the Georgia primaries? Kemp beat Trump's candidate 3-to-1, and even Raffsenberger got through without a runoff.

    I mention this because I think lots of Republicans want Trumpian policies, but they don't actually want Trump. A majority of Republicans think the Party would do better with another candidate - and only 43% want him to stand again.

    In a couple of the strawpolls that have happened this year (most importantly, the Conservatve Summit in Denver this month), it has not been Trump topping the list, but DeSantis.

    DeSantis has moved ahead of Trump now in Republican nomination market on PredictIt, but is well behind on Bet365. I think PredictIt is right, and DeSantis should be the (narrow) favourite.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    edited June 2022
    OnboardG1 said:

    Rots the whole barrel.
    Yes, sorry, I did know. Mine's the Jackson Five song. It's saying to a girl who's been hurt by a bad ex boyfriend that she shouldn't assume all boys are like that.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,460
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,852
    Peston apologises:

    @Peston
    I apologise for my inaccurate language and getting it wrong in the tweet below. I should have said “a possible conclusion to be drawn…”, not “the only conclusion to be drawn…” I made a mistake, not for the first or last time. I am sorry (not for the first or last time)


    https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1537449881404514306
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379

    Yes, I saw that. Free publicity for Mr Herdson.
    I doubt he would be disappointed if it made his opponents vote for Mr Herdson instead of Labour, tbf.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    rcs1000 said:

    He may not be the candidate.

    Did you see the Georgia primaries? Kemp beat Trump's candidate 3-to-1, and even Raffsenberger got through without a runoff.

    I mention this because I think lots of Republicans want Trumpian policies, but they don't actually want Trump. A majority of Republicans think the Party would do better with another candidate - and only 43% want him to stand again.

    In a couple of the strawpolls that have happened this year (most importantly, the Conservatve Summit in Denver this month), it has not been Trump topping the list, but DeSantis.

    DeSantis has moved ahead of Trump now in Republican nomination market on PredictIt, but is well behind on Bet365. I think PredictIt is right, and DeSantis should be the (narrow) favourite.
    I expect it to be Trump but we will see.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,507

    There was a YouGov poll earlier this year that showed that 46% Americans think a civil war is likely in their lifetimes, with only 36% thinking it is unlikely.
    I do wonder if some Deep Red State legislature will seek to reintroduce anti-miscegenation laws.
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    rcs1000 said:

    He may not be the candidate.

    Did you see the Georgia primaries? Kemp beat Trump's candidate 3-to-1, and even Raffsenberger got through without a runoff.

    I mention this because I think lots of Republicans want Trumpian policies, but they don't actually want Trump. A majority of Republicans think the Party would do better with another candidate - and only 43% want him to stand again.

    In a couple of the strawpolls that have happened this year (most importantly, the Conservatve Summit in Denver this month), it has not been Trump topping the list, but DeSantis.

    DeSantis has moved ahead of Trump now in Republican nomination market on PredictIt, but is well behind on Bet365. I think PredictIt is right, and DeSantis should be the (narrow) favourite.
    I’ve said before I don’t think Trump should be the candidate but I would disagree that DeSantis should be the favourite. While some of the results have shown that Trump maybe doesn’t have the influence he had, other results do. DeSantis is young enough where he can wait and he’s smart enough to know that risking Trump’s ire by running directly against him risks a future bid.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    rcs1000 said:

    He may not be the candidate.

    Did you see the Georgia primaries? Kemp beat Trump's candidate 3-to-1, and even Raffsenberger got through without a runoff.

    I mention this because I think lots of Republicans want Trumpian policies, but they don't actually want Trump. A majority of Republicans think the Party would do better with another candidate - and only 43% want him to stand again.

    In a couple of the strawpolls that have happened this year (most importantly, the Conservatve Summit in Denver this month), it has not been Trump topping the list, but DeSantis.

    DeSantis has moved ahead of Trump now in Republican nomination market on PredictIt, but is well behind on Bet365. I think PredictIt is right, and DeSantis should be the (narrow) favourite.

    Trouble is, can DeSantis carry some of the Rustbelt states like Trump did in 2016? I think many repubs aren't confident.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589

    There are plans to build a ferry terminal at Cockenzie. Sounds a good idea as long as something is done about the Edinburgh City Bypass.

    There are plans to build a ferry terminal at Cockenzie. Sounds a good idea as long as something is done about the Edinburgh City Bypass.
    Bury it in six feet of molten lead and start again. I nearly had a bad crash on it after dodging a Chelsea tractor that didn’t pay attention to his surroundings. I hit a bunch of debris that was scattered over the carriageway from a damaged verge and the adverse camber knocked my rear wheels loose. Ended up in a four wheel skid at 70 and only got out of it thanks to counter-steering just well enough for the traction control to bail me out. The Eurobeat I had on Spotify was a nice touch at least.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,532
    carnforth said:

    Platform numbers at the smaller stations on the Algarve line are often not shown on screens: you must consult a printed-out schedule pasted on the information board on the platform itself, and move to another platform if necessary. Faro being larger, this may not be the case - but be aware.
    No it isn't obvious. We have just got on the train. I'll let you know if we land up anywhere unexpected.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594
    Sean_F said:

    I do wonder if some Deep Red State legislature will seek to reintroduce anti-miscegenation laws.
    I saw a poll suggesting that in some areas of the states, expectation of secession is astonishingly high.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, sorry, I did know. Mine's the Jackson Five song. It's saying to a girl who's been hurt by a bad ex boyfriend that she shouldn't assume all boys are like that.
    The Osmonds, not the Jackson 5
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    rcs1000 said:

    He may not be the candidate.

    Did you see the Georgia primaries? Kemp beat Trump's candidate 3-to-1, and even Raffsenberger got through without a runoff.

    I mention this because I think lots of Republicans want Trumpian policies, but they don't actually want Trump. A majority of Republicans think the Party would do better with another candidate - and only 43% want him to stand again.

    In a couple of the strawpolls that have happened this year (most importantly, the Conservatve Summit in Denver this month), it has not been Trump topping the list, but DeSantis.

    DeSantis has moved ahead of Trump now in Republican nomination market on PredictIt, but is well behind on Bet365. I think PredictIt is right, and DeSantis should be the (narrow) favourite.
    DeSantis is clearly setting himself up to run, so does Trump endorse him, or attack him?

    A recent interview with the Governor, for anyone who doesn’t know him. https://youtube.com/watch?v=JHkeUq17wLE
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578
    Applicant said:

    Makes sense. Anything that feeds into the "they're all out to get us" narrative will have that effect.
    Bear in mind in Michigan there may be a specific factor at play, namely the collapse of the Whitmer kidnap conspiracy trial after it was discovered that the plot ‘leaders’ were paid FBI informants. Hence the scepticism.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    MISTY said:


    Trouble is, can DeSantis carry some of the Rustbelt states like Trump did in 2016? I think many repubs aren't confident.
    That would not be trouble, that would be serendipity.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,829
    malcolmg said:

    Dream on
    Dreaming is free!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,829
    Dura_Ace said:

    The car game is good because you make money when you buy a car, not when you sell it. When the economy gets bad it's possible to swoop on bargains via some choice search terms on FB/forums ('incomplete project', etc.)

    I just meant the British economy is getting rod knock yet we've got Johnson and his ship of fools concentrating on stupid shit like Rwanda and blowing up the 6 Counties Protocol rather than anything that would actually improve things. Fizzy Lizzy is bestriding the world stage in permanent campaiging mode for Johnson's job despite the fact that she is as thick as fuck. Sunak is getting smaller and is soon expected to collapse into a singularity. Penny Dreadful has caused some pb tories to experience their first quality erections since Whiter Shade of Pale was number one despite the Flowers for Algernon trajectory of her ministerial career. Where is the hope?
    I did lol at the bit about #PM4PM. :lol:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296

    Peston apologises:

    @Peston
    I apologise for my inaccurate language and getting it wrong in the tweet below. I should have said “a possible conclusion to be drawn…”, not “the only conclusion to be drawn…” I made a mistake, not for the first or last time. I am sorry (not for the first or last time)


    https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1537449881404514306

    I can see why he bothered to apologise, no one is going to challenge him on the basis that it is not “the only conclusion to be drawn…”

    Whatever happened to journalistic licence?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,553
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, sorry, I did know. Mine's the Jackson Five song. It's saying to a girl who's been hurt by a bad ex boyfriend that she shouldn't assume all boys are like that.
    Written for The Jacksons, but sung by The Osmonds.

  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,649

    Out of interest, pre pandemic the likes of Tesco and Asda, their big stores were all 24hrs. That stopped with COVID, they were only allowed to open a restricted number of hours, have they gone back to normal or has 24hr shopping now become a thing of the past?

    My nearest 'big Asda' is open 24hrs. The Tesco's seem to be closing at midnight (though I don't know if that's a change to pre-covid times round here).
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    kinabalu said:

    Yes, sorry, I did know. Mine's the Jackson Five song. It's saying to a girl who's been hurt by a bad ex boyfriend that she shouldn't assume all boys are like that.
    Thought so but wasn’t sure. My humour circuit is a bit broken today.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296

    Dreaming is free!
    So is delusion.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,135
    Extraordinary stat via #WATO: in 2008, when oil prices peaked at $144/barrel, no one in Britain paid more than 120p per litre of petrol. Today, oil price is $113 but pump prices 186p litre. Difference is collapse in sterling from $2 to $1.20. Welcome to the Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/status/1537415189590589446
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    edited June 2022
    OnboardG1 said:

    Rots the whole barrel.
    Not the whole barrel.
    Some of them were pretty rotted already.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030
    Scott_xP said:

    Extraordinary stat via #WATO: in 2008, when oil prices peaked at $144/barrel, no one in Britain paid more than 120p per litre of petrol. Today, oil price is $113 but pump prices 186p litre. Difference is collapse in sterling from $2 to $1.20. Welcome to the Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/status/1537415189590589446

    You just cannot help yourself
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    OnboardG1 said:

    We are truly living in the Ianucciverse.
    Missed a trick in not asking him about Cake, though.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    The Osmonds, not the Jackson 5
    Both!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,400
    MISTY said:

    The current bout of inflation is not just sh8t for those with savings though. It is sh8t for anybody on a low or moderate wage, isn't it?
    Wages are rising with inflation, though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    Sandpit said:

    DeSantis is clearly setting himself up to run, so does Trump endorse him, or attack him?

    A recent interview with the Governor, for anyone who doesn’t know him. https://youtube.com/watch?v=JHkeUq17wLE
    Musk is talking about backing him, which will irritate the Orange oaf.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    OnboardG1 said:

    Thought so but wasn’t sure. My humour circuit is a bit broken today.
    Yes don't worry - it's no joking matter and I'm back in serious mode now.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,106
    Scott_xP said:

    Extraordinary stat via #WATO: in 2008, when oil prices peaked at $144/barrel, no one in Britain paid more than 120p per litre of petrol. Today, oil price is $113 but pump prices 186p litre. Difference is collapse in sterling from $2 to $1.20. Welcome to the Brexit.
    https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/status/1537415189590589446

    Every now and then you make reasonable and valid points. Then you come out of with utter garbage
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030

    Every now and then you make reasonable and valid points. Then you come out of with utter garbage
    Embarrassing
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,829

    So is delusion.
    The drumming isn't as good on that one.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=GRbcHPu2hq8&feature=share
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    Written for The Jacksons, but sung by The Osmonds.
    Ok accepted. Both, but I should have said The Osmonds song since it mainly is.

    We should move on.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,460

    Every now and then you make reasonable and valid points. Then you come out of with utter garbage
    Why garbage? that's exactly the same point they made on the World at One. Apart from Johnson's crookery i thought it was the most interteresting factoid on the program
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    kinabalu said:

    Both!
    When did the Jackson 5 record it?
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    Roger said:

    Why garbage? that's exactly the same point they made on the World at One. Apart from Johnson's crookery i thought it was the most interteresting factoid on the program
    factoid: an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact.

    Aye.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    I would have paid good money to see Boycott watching this moment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/jun/16/joe-root-and-jonny-bairstow-ignore-fixed-ideas-to-show-test-cricket-its-future
    ...In the Daily Telegraph the previous week Geoffrey Boycott explained to his readers that Root is a better batsman than his teammates because, unlike them, he “doesn’t play” Twenty20 cricket. “You never see Root play the scoop, ramp or any fancy shots,” Boycott wrote. “His technique is honed and has been from a young age to play proper cricket.” Now Southee is bowling just outside Root’s off stump, looking to take the ball away. It is only the second ball Root had faced that day. He could, probably should, leave it.

    Instead he spreads his feet so he was facing square down the wicket, switches the bat around in his hands and flicks the ball over the heads of the slips. For six...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    edited June 2022

    You just cannot help yourself
    Nor can you. :smile:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296

    Every now and then you make reasonable and valid points. Then you come out of with utter garbage
    What exactly is garbage about this?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,983
    Roger said:

    Why garbage? that's exactly the same point they made on the World at One. Apart from Johnson's crookery i thought it was the most interteresting factoid on the program
    Weren't the PB Leavers urging the fuel hauliers to pay higher wages when the driver shortage materialized? Presumably they're now doing just that. The costs will always filter down to the consumer eventually.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,460
    edited June 2022

    You just cannot help yourself
    Just joining the crowd as usual Big_G or does your post have a meaning?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Nigelb said:

    I would have paid good money to see Boycott watching this moment.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/jun/16/joe-root-and-jonny-bairstow-ignore-fixed-ideas-to-show-test-cricket-its-future
    ...In the Daily Telegraph the previous week Geoffrey Boycott explained to his readers that Root is a better batsman than his teammates because, unlike them, he “doesn’t play” Twenty20 cricket. “You never see Root play the scoop, ramp or any fancy shots,” Boycott wrote. “His technique is honed and has been from a young age to play proper cricket.” Now Southee is bowling just outside Root’s off stump, looking to take the ball away. It is only the second ball Root had faced that day. He could, probably should, leave it.

    Instead he spreads his feet so he was facing square down the wicket, switches the bat around in his hands and flicks the ball over the heads of the slips. For six...

    Geoffrey can always fall back on his favourite 'well that was such a poor ball my mother could have hit it for 4 with a stick of rhubarb'
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,526
    edited June 2022

    What exactly is garbage about this?
    Because using $2 to the £1 in a comparison is cherry picking a massive historic outlier and not indictive of the historic norms.

    Its a bit like saying I once got an amazing deal on a 5* resort in Florida, I paid $30 a night for it as indicative of problem with inflation compared it to what it would cost now i.e $500-600 a night....why was it so cheap, because when I went the Deepwater Horizon platform had just blown up and they thought the oil would destroy the Florida coast.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030
    Nigelb said:

    Nor can you. :smile:
    Do you agree with his post ?
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,264
    America's five most popular governors are Republicans. source: https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/05/28/americas-most-popular-governors/11/

    Is that good news, or bad? I'll let you decide, after I describe them.

    The 5th most popular is Arkansas's Asa Hutchinson. A strong conservative, he's running for president -- whether or not Trump runs. He's been about as anti-Trump as a Republican can be, in Arkansas.

    The fourth most popular governor is West Virginia's Jim Justice. (He switched from being a Democrat during his first term.) He has followed moderate policies -- and has been the closest to Trump of the five, because of coal and West Virginia's politics, but, would, I believe, dump Trump in an instant, given a chance.)

    The third most popular governor is Maryand's Larry Hogan. He is running for the presidency, and against Trump, and working to help anti-Trump Republicans across the nation.

    The second most popular governor is Vermont's Phil Scott. He has been a consistent opponent of Trump.

    The most popular governor is Massachusetts's Charlie Baker, a "fiscal conservative, and cultural liberal". Like Scott he has been an opponent of Trump.

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,829
    edited June 2022

    Every now and then you make reasonable and valid points. Then you come out of with utter garbage
    As I said yesterday, that's all Twitter is, these absurd 'gotcha' comparisons trying to get retweets because they sound outrageous and somewhat plausible,but wouldn't stand up to a shred of scrutiny.

    You could do (and someone probably has) a random outraged Tweet generator. It starts with 'Wow.' or 'So this is a thing.' or similar. In the middle, there's an absurd comparison. 'Rise in reported hate crimes in Stoke Newington since 2013? 200. Heteronormative stereotypes in Grimm's fairytales? 200. Funny that.' then it ends with some blame - 'Thanks Boris.'
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,630
    Loving that the next Brit tennis sensation has penis in their name. Looking forward to a long career of commentators stumbling over the name...
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    MrEd said:

    I’ve said before I don’t think Trump should be the candidate but I would disagree that DeSantis should be the favourite. While some of the results have shown that Trump maybe doesn’t have the influence he had, other results do. DeSantis is young enough where he can wait and he’s smart enough to know that risking Trump’s ire by running directly against him risks a future bid.
    2/5 he runs. 13/8 he's the candidate. 3/1 he gets back in the oval office.

    So say punters at this moment in time.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    rcs1000 said:

    Wages are rising with inflation, though.
    Not really. Especially in the public sector. I still have no idea what my pay rise will be. If I get one. The private sector is better, but still below inflation discounting bonuses (which tend to go to employees with more significant base earnings anyway).
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    edited June 2022

    Because using $2 to the £1 in a comparison is cherry picking a massive historic outlier and not indictive of the historic norms.

    Its a bit like saying I once got an amazing deal on a 5* resort in Florida, I paid $30 a night for it and compare it to what it would cost now....why was it so cheap, because when I went the Deepwater Horizon platform had just blown up and they thought the oil would destroy the Florida coast.
    GBP was between $1.95 and $2.10 for nearly two years, so hardly a one-off outlier.

    In any event the key point was that it is true, not 'garbage'.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,526
    rcs1000 said:

    Wages are rising with inflation, though.
    You must be a very generous boss, I am not giving my staff a 10%+ pay rise.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,526
    edited June 2022

    GBP was between $1.95 and $2.10 for nearly two years, so hardly a one-off outlier.
    By historic norms it absolutely was. A more normal rate is 1.4-1.5. They have literally cherry picked the peak price since 1970s.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,460

    Embarrassing
    You've gone from 'You just cannot help yourself' to 'Embarrassing'. I appreciate your herd instinct but could you explain yourself? Scott quite reasonably quoted an interesting fact from WATO which you have nnow derided twice. Can those of us not from Llandudno be let in on Scott's faux pas?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620

    There are plans to build a ferry terminal at Cockenzie. Sounds a good idea as long as something is done about the Edinburgh City Bypass.
    Just thinking. Mr Raab C. Brexit certainly won't know where that is, let alone pronounce it, in comparison to Dover.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    Roger said:

    You've gone from 'You just cannot help yourself' to 'Embarrassing'. I appreciate your herd instinct but could you explain yourself? Scott quite reasonably quoted an interesting fact from WATO which you have nnow derided twice. Can those of us not from Llandudno be let in on Scott's faux pas?
    Both "interesting" and "fact" are of dubious accuracy.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735

    Geoffrey can always fall back on his favourite 'well that was such a poor ball my mother could have hit it for 4 with a stick of rhubarb'
    Bet she never ramped it for 6, though.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,829
    edited June 2022
    Nigelb said:

    Bet she never ramped it for 6, though.
    Do you think that if equipped with rhubarb bats, the side would crumble?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Nigelb said:

    Bet she never ramped it for 6, though.
    Fnarr fnarr
    Tuffers and Aggers chortling at that one
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Do you think that if equipped with rhubarb bats, the side would crumble?
    It would turn to custard.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,176

    You must be a very generous boss, I am not giving my staff a 10%+ pay rise.
    Why not?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited June 2022
    Westminster Voting Intention (15 June):

    Labour 42% (+3)
    Conservative 34% (+2)
    Liberal Democrat 12% (-3)
    Green 4% (-2)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-2)
    Reform UK 3% (+1)
    Other 1% (-2)

    Changes +/- 12 June

    https://t.co/yZRxSLYvWc https://t.co/p2qc3C6LpI

    Redfield random number generator with the blue red booster
    More tentative evidence the tories are off the floor level but a good red score too
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    This thread has resigned on erthical grounds.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,030
    Roger said:

    You've gone from 'You just cannot help yourself' to 'Embarrassing'. I appreciate your herd instinct but could you explain yourself? Scott quite reasonably quoted an interesting fact from WATO which you have nnow derided twice. Can those of us not from Llandudno be let in on Scott's faux pas?
    Everything is Brexit - covid and Ukraine has upset the world order and it is just nonsense to place everything at Brexit's door

    Indeed Germany, France and Italy have been giving Putin billions towards his a war machine to protect their economies and are pursuing appeasement

    The answer to brexit is a common sense approach by UK and EU and not the polarisation of the extreme views as per Farage on the right and yourself on the left


  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    When did the Jackson 5 record it?
    They didn't. They might have done it in concert though. If not I've made a total howler. That it was written for the Jacksons is some mitigation but not much.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,735
    .

    Do you think that if equipped with rhubarb bats, the side would crumble?
    Don't be a fool.

    Are you entirely compôte mentis ?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103

    It used to be that people could afford to buy their houses much earlier in their lives. You'd be in your "last" property by 40 or earlier. So a 20 year mortgage would finish nicely in time for your retirement.

    How much would you have to save into a pension to pay the rent on a property for your retirement?

    I actually asked a friend who is an ex-private financial advisor. He confirmed my suspicion that people with no prospect of buying aren't increasing their pension contributions to deal with renting for like. Some people are going to be in a really, really shit situation when they retire.
    Yes can imagine if renting it will be a shock of no decent pension on top of state one.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,852

    Westminster Voting Intention (15 June):

    Labour 42% (+3)
    Conservative 34% (+2)
    Liberal Democrat 12% (-3)
    Green 4% (-2)
    Scottish National Party 3% (-2)
    Reform UK 3% (+1)
    Other 1% (-2)

    Changes +/- 12 June

    https://t.co/yZRxSLYvWc https://t.co/p2qc3C6LpI

    Redfield random number generator with the blue red booster
    More tentative evidence the tories are off the floor level but a good red score too

    That looks like an outlier with the Lib Dems, Greens and SNP all down.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,460

    Everything is Brexit - covid and Ukraine has upset the world order and it is just nonsense to place everything at Brexit's door

    Indeed Germany, France and Italy have been giving Putin billions towards his a war machine to protect their economies and are pursuing appeasement

    The answer to brexit is a common sense approach by UK and EU and not the polarisation of the extreme views as per Farage on the right and yourself on the left


    You clearly didn't even read Scotts post as that wasn't the main point he or WATO were making. The point they were making was the collapse of the pound. Something I can attest to as I change money into Euros regularly and out of dollars sometimes
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296

    By historic norms it absolutely was. A more normal rate is 1.4-1.5. They have literally cherry picked the peak price since 1970s.
    The 'normal rate is 1.4-1.5'? What sort of bullshit is that?

    In the 8,567 days since 1 January 1999, GBP has ended the day between 1.4 and 1.5 USD on only 1,218 occasions.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,662
    Where are we with Lord Geidt?

    It seems to be a bit of a hissy fit because the Minister treated the adviser's trade advice as advice, rather than letting him set policy.

    Advisers advise; Ministers decide.

    I'd say he was looking for an excuse, and did not find a very good one.

    Have I missed something?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,103
    rcs1000 said:

    Wages are rising with inflation, though.
    Thought someone said today that UK wages were down 2% last month
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,662
    edited June 2022
    malcolmg said:

    Yes can imagine if renting it will be a shock of no decent pension on top of state one.
    There are a couple of good ideas, a lot of virtue signalling and several likely faceplants.

    The biggest issue is that they are lying about so-called No Fault evictions. Shelter research shows that there *are* reasons and the Section 21 eviction is mainly used as the quickest and easiest procedure. Shelter are always happy to spin deceptive stories.

    The last time I looked there were also a lot more of that type of eviction by Housing Associations - but no one will mention that.

    Doubling the notice period for a rental increase is a bizarre one - it already requires 3 months. That will normalise rate of inflation plus a smidgeon rent increases to a strict schedule, which will make increases notably larger than they have been for the last 20 years.

    They will probably make an even bigger mess of dog tenancies than they managed to create last time. That's just SOP for an ignorant Parliament.

    I am not sure how they are going to force lets to XYZ group, when the applicant from that group is often not a suitable tenant.

    As far as I can see they are not dealing with Councils abusing entitled to housing by forcing them to go through a Court process of 4-6 months which wrecks their credit rating and leaves them with several k of Court Fees.

    Car crash coming down the road, in all likelihood.

    And I think the landlord-haters just lost this morning their "mortgages are so much cheaper than rents" brickbat. Perhaps now the thicker ones will realise that rent pays for a hell of a lot more than the mortgage; don;t hold your breath.
  • It was a joke.
    Do you want to come and burn some notes in this doley’s face, just for laughs? That would be equally funny.
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