Turn it around: less than 2% of the US population is Black immigrants, with less than a fifth of the growth of the black population since 1980 coming from immigration.
Evidence? The Tory voteshare actually increased in polls today after Johnson survived his VONC. Nobody else in the Tory party has Boris' charisma and personality and nobody else would do any better at this time, indeed most alternatives would do worse.
Note too Sunak does no better than Boris v Starmer as preferred PM either
If you want to retain the lying buffoon go right ahead.
It's only the nation and the reputation of the Conservative Party that will suffer.
Leftwingers like you of course want to get rid of Boris just as you wanted to get rid of Thatcher as they were general election winners.
Same as we Conservatives wanted to get rid of general election winner Blair and correctly as Labour has lost 4 consecutive general elections since he went
I want rid of Johnson because he is a lazy, lying shit and unfit for office.
The Conservatives will have a better chance at the next GE with a new leader who has competence and integrity, but go right ahead and stick with your man and reap the result.
Evidence? The Tory voteshare actually increased in polls today after Johnson survived his VONC. Nobody else in the Tory party has Boris' charisma and personality and nobody else would do any better at this time, indeed most alternatives would do worse.
Note too Sunak does no better than Boris v Starmer as preferred PM either
If you want to retain the lying buffoon go right ahead.
It's only the nation and the reputation of the Conservative Party that will suffer.
Leftwingers like you of course want to get rid of Boris just as you wanted to get rid of Thatcher as they were general election winners.
Same as we Conservatives wanted to get rid of general election winner Blair and correctly as Labour has lost 4 consecutive general elections since he went
I want Boris gone and am not leftwing, but someone who shares in common with148 of his mps their desire to replace him who tonight seem to be organising a rejection of Boris by over 65 party chairs across the country
Furthermore tonight, Welsh Conservatives are considering setting up their own distinct Welsh party
One of the great speeches of Congress has been given by Liz Chaney taking on Trump and his lies full on. Some highlights on this thread: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/10/2103338/-High-Praise-for-Liz-Cheney I urge those who have not seen or heard this yet to listen. Clear, measured, unequivocal, just superb.
You'd really like to think that this is it for Trump but in a country now enduring a mass shooting a day which cannot agree about banning semi automatic rifles, who knows. Tremendous courage though. Really exceptional.
Pity she can’t be so forthright about her own father. Now he truly was a threat to American values and liberty (as well as being a total warmonger).
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
The TT is going to have to stop in its current form. It's nowhere near the pinnacle of the sport and is just hasbeens and nevergonnabes risking their lives for two or three mortgage payments.
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
There used to be deaths each year on Mad Sunday, when the course was opened for any rider. It is part of the mystique of the TT. There are no runoff areas, but rather stone walls at corners as these are public roads. Every biker knows this. I write as a former biker.
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
The TT is going to have to stop in its current form. It's nowhere near the pinnacle of the sport and is just hasbeens and nevergonnabes risking their lives for two or three mortgage payments.
Got a mate was a Plod on IOM. Police, hospitals, bloody love it. Fortnight on overtime. Hotels caffs too. So it will continue.
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
Empathy. Tell it to the tossers who rides their stupid cars and motorbikes around town, with the sound of their revving driving everyone else mad even if their in their own homes. Motorbikes and noisy cars are a form of antisocial behaviour you literally cannot escape from. They people who do this sort of thing for fun are absolute and total bastards. Noise pollution is deadly. It destroys people's mental health. People who do it for fun are awful. You wouldn't tolerate someone marching up your street at 1am banging a bass drum, night after night. You'd be out there having words or calling the police. You know you would.
The deaths relate to the TT which is an annual event going back decades not a random biker
And of course I would object to what you describe but I would express sympathy if they were killed
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
The TT is going to have to stop in its current form. It's nowhere near the pinnacle of the sport and is just hasbeens and nevergonnabes risking their lives for two or three mortgage payments.
When @Dura_Ace says something is too reckless........
I reckon my numbers hold. 520 looks like the max competitor count (Inc sidecars) across the 8 races, so that is 1% of competitors died, and that is not a crazy outlier.
Putting to sea in a dinghy across the mad was estimated as a 1.5% chance of dying. The narrower English Channel crossings will be significantly safer than doing the TT.
Thoughts and prayers for monarchist Tories at this time.
The Prince of Wales has privately described the government’s policy to send migrants to Rwanda as “appalling”, The Times has been told.
Prince Charles is said to be particularly frustrated at Boris Johnson’s asylum policy as he is due to represent the Queen at the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in Kigali, the capital of Rwanda, this month.
Migrants who arrive in Britain illegally face being deported to Rwanda, more than 4,000 miles away, under a deal struck by Priti Patel, the home secretary, in April.
Today Patel overcame an initial legal challenge to the policy after a High Court judge ruled that the first flight due to deport migrants on Tuesday could go ahead.
A source had heard Charles, 73, expressing opposition to the policy several times in private and said he was particularly uncomfortable about it amid fears that it would overshadow the summit on June 23.
“He said he was more than disappointed at the policy,” the source said. “He said he thinks the government’s whole approach is appalling. It was clear he was not impressed with the government’s direction of travel.”
Clarence House did not deny that Charles was opposed to the policy
Five killed at the TT. I know the competitors know the risks, and people die rock climbing and skiing, but it's still tough to hear about.
Noisy bastards getting splashed is something I wouldn't lose sleep over
I am not so sure the family and friends of the father and son killed today would be pleased with such a callous remark
They make people's lives a misery with all the noise they make. Fuck em.
And you have no care that they are killed
No. I don't care at all. I hate people who drive dangerous, noisy vehicles more than I hate anyone or anything else. Ban it all.
The TT races go back decades and it is a recognised sporting occasion not random use of motor bikes
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
Empathy. Tell it to the tossers who rides their stupid cars and motorbikes around town, with the sound of their revving driving everyone else mad even if their in their own homes. Motorbikes and noisy cars are a form of antisocial behaviour you literally cannot escape from. They people who do this sort of thing for fun are absolute and total bastards. Noise pollution is deadly. It destroys people's mental health. People who do it for fun are awful. You wouldn't tolerate someone marching up your street at 1am banging a bass drum, night after night. You'd be out there having words or calling the police. You know you would.
The deaths relate to the TT which is an annual event going back decades not a random biker
And of course I would object to what you describe but I would express sympathy if they were killed
Of course you would express sympathy, you're nothing if not sanctimonious. Did you buy flowers and leave them somewhere public when Diana died? I bet you did.
Early today somebody was making a song and dance about the claim there were ~2500 fans of which ~1700 were Liverpool fans going to the Stade de France with so-called "fake" tickets.
Now UEFA have admitted that 2,700 Liverpool fans with genuine tickets did not make it into the Stadium for the final they had legitimate tickets for. Even on official figures now, there were more fans who didn't make it into the Stadium with legitimate tickets, than there were people with so-called "fake" tickets.
What a shocking failure by the authorities. Lucky really it didn't end up worse, the fans were really well behaved despite all the provocation not to end up with much worse happening, when thousands of ticket holders were denied entrance.
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
If Charles wants to be shaping politics he should be running for election.
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
If Charles wants to be shaping politics he should be running for election.
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
Absolutely not.
He is perfectly entitled to air his views even if the elected government ultimately decides and indeed many rural communities were hit hard by the abolition of foxhunting while foxes are increasing in number without proper controls at the expense of rabbits, chickens etc
Thoughts and prayers for monarchist Tories at this time.
The Prince of Wales has privately described the government’s policy to send migrants to Rwanda as “appalling”, The Times has been told.
Prince Charles is said to be particularly frustrated at Boris Johnson’s asylum policy as he is due to represent the Queen at the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in Kigali, the capital of Rwanda, this month.
Migrants who arrive in Britain illegally face being deported to Rwanda, more than 4,000 miles away, under a deal struck by Priti Patel, the home secretary, in April.
Today Patel overcame an initial legal challenge to the policy after a High Court judge ruled that the first flight due to deport migrants on Tuesday could go ahead.
A source had heard Charles, 73, expressing opposition to the policy several times in private and said he was particularly uncomfortable about it amid fears that it would overshadow the summit on June 23.
“He said he was more than disappointed at the policy,” the source said. “He said he thinks the government’s whole approach is appalling. It was clear he was not impressed with the government’s direction of travel.”
Clarence House did not deny that Charles was opposed to the policy
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
If Charles wants to be shaping politics he should be running for election.
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
Absolutely not.
He is perfectly entitled to air his views even if the elected government ultimately decides and indeed many rural communities were hit hard by the abolition of foxhunting while foxes are increasing in number without proper controls at the expense of rabbits, chickens etc
iirc there was an issue with the then Prince of Wales before he became Edward VII being rather indiscrete about his loathing of various politicians.
"Ban hunting and I might as well leave, says Charles by GRAEME WILSON, Daily Mail
Prince Charles has made plain his exasperation at moves to ban foxhunting.
He told a private gathering, which included a senior politician: 'If the Labour government ever gets around to banning foxhunting, I might as well leave this country and spend the rest of my life skiing.'
The Prince has also suggested that Ministers would never dare treat ethnic minorities or homosexuals in the way they have treated farmers and rural communities.
In a private letter to the Prime Minister, Charles made clear that he backed the view of a farmer from Cumbria who told him 'if we, as a group, were black or gay, we would not be victimised or picked upon'.
The Prince of Wales is understood to have gone on to accuse Mr Blair's Government of 'destroying the countryside'."
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
If Charles wants to be shaping politics he should be running for election.
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
Absolutely not.
He is perfectly entitled to air his views even if the elected government ultimately decides and indeed many rural communities were hit hard by the abolition of foxhunting while foxes are increasing in number without proper controls at the expense of rabbits, chickens etc
iirc there was an issue with the then Prince of Wales before he became Edward VII being rather indiscrete about his loathing of various politicians.
He was a better than expected monarch too in his short 9 year reign also after the very long reign of his mother
And Scots correctly followed her lead and voted against independence. She made a vow at the Coronation to serve the whole United Kingdom as one union
Luckily it's not up to her at all. The people decide.
She could in theory veto a UK government bill for an independence referendum.
The people also only get a choice on independence if the UK government allows them a referendum and then decides to implement the result
Would be hilarious if she tried. Violence would follow.
No monarch has refused royal assent since Queen Anne in 1700 and something iirc
But governments have several times "agreed changes" to bills that monarchs have requested changes to using the queen's consent procedure. It's very different from royal assent.
According to the Privy Council Office, "The Privy Council is the mechanism through which interdepartmental agreement is reached on those items of Government business which, for historical or other reasons, fall to Ministers as Privy Counsellors rather than as Departmental Ministers."
That site used to say something about coordinating between government departments, leaving the reader none the wiser as to why a department different from the Cabinet Office needed to duplicate one of the Cabinet Office's main functions. But at least that was better than saying what it says now, which is essentially that the Privy Council does what the Privy Council does.
In other news, over 1000 bills have been vetted by the queen or her eldest son (because there is "prince's consent" too) before being put to Parliament. How many have been changed as a result of responses received? We don't know.
And have people forgotten the "give me three good reasons to stay in the EU" story about the queen, including immediately before the Brexit referendum? Commentators generally say they're admiring of the "think carefully before you vote" intervention in the 2014 Sindyref. Amnesia seems to be more their approach towards the 2016 effort.
And Scots correctly followed her lead and voted against independence. She made a vow at the Coronation to serve the whole United Kingdom as one union
Luckily it's not up to her at all. The people decide.
She could in theory veto a UK government bill for an independence referendum.
The people also only get a choice on independence if the UK government allows them a referendum and then decides to implement the result
Would be hilarious if she tried. Violence would follow.
No monarch has refused royal assent since Queen Anne in 1700 and something iirc
But governments have several times "agreed changes" to bills that monarchs have requested changes to using the queen's consent procedure. It's very different from royal assent.
Don't forget, every time that man speaks, to play this back in your head.
The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?
Don't forget, every time that man speaks, to play this back in your head.
The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?
Dear old Plum. When will England see his like again? The country needs quality comic writing.
I went to the Edvard Munch exhibition at the Courtauld Gallery yesterday. Very enjoyable and for anyone close to London a recommended trip alongside something else. It's only two rooms but interesting and the Courtauld has some other wonderful works of art.
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Don't forget, every time that man speaks, to play this back in your head.
The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?
That is an unfair comparison.
Farage could never be a successful designer of women's underclothing.
Don't forget, every time that man speaks, to play this back in your head.
The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?
That is an unfair comparison.
Farage could never be a successful designer of women's underclothing.
On his enoblement, Lord Sidcup would certainly work for Nigel.
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Good morning
We are doing our best supporting the 148 to remedy the problem
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Good morning
We are doing our best supporting the 148 to remedy the problem
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Good morning from Tbilisi
It might help if there weren’t three open threads. Two of them from the 1890s, or thereabouts
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congrats OKC and spouse! Have a wonderful day....again!!
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Good morning
We are doing our best supporting the 148 to remedy the problem
It's the next 32 you need to be working on, and they are steadfast in their support for BigDog.
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations OKC. What marvellous news. I hope you enjoy the special day.
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations OKC. What marvellous news. I hope you enjoy the special day.
Thanks everyone; we're not having much of a party today. We are going to have 'a something' when all the family can get here. At the moment Younger Son and family are abroad, and will be until the school term is finished. And the GCSE, or equivalent, exams
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
If Charles wants to be shaping politics he should be running for election.
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
Absolutely not.
He is perfectly entitled to air his views even if the elected government ultimately decides and indeed many rural communities were hit hard by the abolition of foxhunting while foxes are increasing in number without proper controls at the expense of rabbits, chickens etc
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
That’s good advice. We’ve been married for about 20 years. Time flies, but still striking that we’re not even close to half way towards your achievement. Congratulations.
Evidence? The Tory voteshare actually increased in polls today after Johnson survived his VONC. Nobody else in the Tory party has Boris' charisma and personality and nobody else would do any better at this time, indeed most alternatives would do worse.
Note too Sunak does no better than Boris v Starmer as preferred PM either
If you want to retain the lying buffoon go right ahead.
It's only the nation and the reputation of the Conservative Party that will suffer.
Leftwingers like you of course want to get rid of Boris just as you wanted to get rid of Thatcher as they were general election winners.
Same as we Conservatives wanted to get rid of general election winner Blair and correctly as Labour has lost 4 consecutive general elections since he went
I agree with @HYUFD and recommend that Gareth Southgate fields Geoff Hurst and a number of coffins for the next international. It is clearly a logical deducted by @HYUFD .
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
Stay up all night arguing? Congratulations anyway; you must have been doing something right.
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
I was married for three and a half years. In that three and a half years I had one argument with my wife. One
It was about a salami. I told her she was eating too much of our special lockdown salami. The argument lasted about 5 minutes then we both burst out laughing
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
Stay up all night arguing?
LOL! No; taken a while to come to a while to come to an agreement (of sorts) sometime, but we've always managed to do it!
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
He always has been a gobshite and he's not going change now so we'd all better get used to it.
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
He always has been a gobshite and he's not going change now so we'd all better get used to it.
It is a part of the delusion he has about the role that he still thinks we care what he thinks. We really don't.
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
He always has been a gobshite and he's not going change now so we'd all better get used to it.
It is a part of the delusion he has about the role that he still thinks we care what he thinks. We really don't.
It’s a fast track to a republic. If he continues like this he will be a terrible king. I don’t care what he thinks about Rwanda - for or against. He needs to be sat on, now
It’s the one thing he has to do. Studied neutrality
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
Stay up all night arguing?
LOL! No; taken a while to come to a while to come to an agreement (of sorts) sometime, but we've always managed to do it!
I am always a bit suspicious of couples that never argue, they must be walking on eggshells the whole time. In a relaxed relationship having an occasional argument is a sign of being able to be trust each other to not let it get out of hand. Mrs Foxys best feature is her poor memory, I am often in the doghouse, but always let out quickly as she forgets my misdeeds. Not bearing a grudge to continue an argument the next day is a great tip.
33 years for me this summer, so a long way to go to match OKC and OQC up. Congratulations!
Good to see Prince Charles taking some moral leadership on the awful policy of sending vulnerable people fleeing war and torture to Rwanda. This policy is not fair or,sustainable. Charles will be a different kind of monarch.
I happen to agree with him in this case, its a dreadful policy, but it is simply not his role as our quasi-monarch to get involved in political issues. His mother has always recognised that.
He made a comment in private.
Well its not private now, its on the front pages of newspapers. He needs to be more careful as he moves up.
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
Congratulations, what the secret?
Thanks. Secret? My father-in-law advised us to 'never let the sun go down on wrath' and we always tried to sort out any arguments before going to sleep. Sometimes there's been an agreement to differ, but we've tried never to go to sleep cross with each other!
Stay up all night arguing?
LOL! No; taken a while to come to a while to come to an agreement (of sorts) sometime, but we've always managed to do it!
I am always a bit suspicious of couples that never argue, they must be walking on eggshells the whole time. In a relaxed relationship having an occasional argument is a sign of being able to be trust each other to not let it get out of hand. Mrs Foxys best feature is her poor memory, I am often in the doghouse, but always let out quickly as she forgets my misdeeds. Not bearing a grudge to continue an argument the next day is a great tip.
33 years for me this summer, so a long way to go to match OKC and OQC up. Congratulations!
We are at 36 and I would completely agree with that. The strength of our relationship is not that we don't argue, I can be particularly annoying when I am tired and grumpy, but that we both do not bear a grude and don't keep it going. I wouldn't say, unlike @OldKingCole, that we have never had a disagreement go into the next day but its rare and, thankfully, getting rarer.
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Both are true.
The Conservatives will have a better chance at the next GE with a new leader who has competence and integrity, but go right ahead and stick with your man and reap the result.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1502807946775905&set=pcb.1502808246775875
Furthermore tonight, Welsh Conservatives are considering setting up their own distinct Welsh party
However, you obviously lack any form of empathy for those killed which says more about you then them and their families
Hotels caffs too.
So it will continue.
And of course I would object to what you describe but I would express sympathy if they were killed
I reckon my numbers hold. 520 looks like the max competitor count (Inc sidecars) across the 8 races, so that is 1% of competitors died, and that is not a crazy outlier.
Putting to sea in a dinghy across the mad was estimated as a 1.5% chance of dying. The narrower English Channel crossings will be significantly safer than doing the TT.
NEW THREAD
The Prince of Wales has privately described the government’s policy to send migrants to Rwanda as “appalling”, The Times has been told.
Prince Charles is said to be particularly frustrated at Boris Johnson’s asylum policy as he is due to represent the Queen at the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting in Kigali, the capital of Rwanda, this month.
Migrants who arrive in Britain illegally face being deported to Rwanda, more than 4,000 miles away, under a deal struck by Priti Patel, the home secretary, in April.
Today Patel overcame an initial legal challenge to the policy after a High Court judge ruled that the first flight due to deport migrants on Tuesday could go ahead.
A source had heard Charles, 73, expressing opposition to the policy several times in private and said he was particularly uncomfortable about it amid fears that it would overshadow the summit on June 23.
“He said he was more than disappointed at the policy,” the source said. “He said he thinks the government’s whole approach is appalling. It was clear he was not impressed with the government’s direction of travel.”
Clarence House did not deny that Charles was opposed to the policy
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-charles-flying-migrants-to-rwanda-is-appalling-l6jzklfhm
#TakeBackControlFromOurUnelectedRulers
Only one way to sort this...... FIGHT
One in seven people in America are immigrants.
So it would seem the black proportion of migrants is lower than the national proportion.
He’s following in her footsteps.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/14/scottish-independence-queen-remark-welcomed-no-vote?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Now UEFA have admitted that 2,700 Liverpool fans with genuine tickets did not make it into the Stadium for the final they had legitimate tickets for. Even on official figures now, there were more fans who didn't make it into the Stadium with legitimate tickets, than there were people with so-called "fake" tickets.
What a shocking failure by the authorities. Lucky really it didn't end up worse, the fans were really well behaved despite all the provocation not to end up with much worse happening, when thousands of ticket holders were denied entrance.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-charles-tony-blair-fox-hunting-letters-published-information-commissioner-public-read-royal-wales-a7856651.html
"The Government is reportedly stalling the release of Prince Charles’ letters to Tony Blair about fox hunting after the Freedom of Information watchdog said they should be published. Prince Charles lobbied the former Labour prime minister in a series of private letters to scrap the fox hunting ban, and those letters may be revealed to the public."
A normal citizen lobbying government is perfectly acceptable. An unelected constitutional monarch or heir to the monarchy? Time to scrap our unelected rulers as soon as is acceptable after the fall of London Bridge.
He is perfectly entitled to air his views even if the elected government ultimately decides and indeed many rural communities were hit hard by the abolition of foxhunting while foxes are increasing in number without proper controls at the expense of rabbits, chickens etc
The people also only get a choice on independence if the UK government allows them a referendum and then decides to implement the result
"Ban hunting and I might as well leave, says Charles
by GRAEME WILSON, Daily Mail
Prince Charles has made plain his exasperation at moves to ban foxhunting.
He told a private gathering, which included a senior politician: 'If the Labour government ever gets around to banning foxhunting, I might as well leave this country and spend the rest of my life skiing.'
The Prince has also suggested that Ministers would never dare treat ethnic minorities or homosexuals in the way they have treated farmers and rural communities.
In a private letter to the Prime Minister, Charles made clear that he backed the view of a farmer from Cumbria who told him 'if we, as a group, were black or gay, we would not be victimised or picked upon'.
The Prince of Wales is understood to have gone on to accuse Mr Blair's Government of 'destroying the countryside'."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-139491/Ban-hunting-I-leave-says-Charles.html
And even then it was because the government changed its mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Militia_Bill?wprov=sfla1
@Nigel_Farage
Unless Prince Charles wants to destroy the monarchy he had better shut up fast."
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1535379832850235392
According to the Privy Council Office, "The Privy Council is the mechanism through which interdepartmental agreement is reached on those items of Government business which, for historical or other reasons, fall to Ministers as Privy Counsellors rather than as Departmental Ministers."
That site used to say something about coordinating between government departments, leaving the reader none the wiser as to why a department different from the Cabinet Office needed to duplicate one of the Cabinet Office's main functions. But at least that was better than saying what it says now, which is essentially that the Privy Council does what the Privy Council does.
In other news, over 1000 bills have been vetted by the queen or her eldest son (because there is "prince's consent" too) before being put to Parliament. How many have been changed as a result of responses received? We don't know.
And have people forgotten the "give me three good reasons to stay in the EU" story about the queen, including immediately before the Brexit referendum? Commentators generally say they're admiring of the "think carefully before you vote" intervention in the 2014 Sindyref. Amnesia seems to be more their approach towards the 2016 effort.
Presumably with him as President.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
Short-sightedness has become an epidemic
To fight it, schools should send their students outside"
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/06/09/short-sightedness-has-become-an-epidemic
The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?
I went to the Edvard Munch exhibition at the Courtauld Gallery yesterday. Very enjoyable and for anyone close to London a recommended trip alongside something else. It's only two rooms but interesting and the Courtauld has some other wonderful works of art.
If Johnson sticks around for the next two years then we're in for a really unpleasant time. These 'red meat' policies are only going to increase, turning this once great country into a cesspit of hate.
I know that a lot of you Conservatives on here agree about this, for which I'm grateful.
Farage could never be a successful designer of women's underclothing.
We are doing our best supporting the 148 to remedy the problem
It might help if there weren’t three open threads. Two of them from the 1890s, or thereabouts
It's a lot brighter than it was on this day 60 years ago. How do I know? Because it's the Cole's Diamond Wedding… 60 years ago, in the morning and indeed until the Wedding Breakfast it was rather overcast, but as we left for our honeymoon the sun came out!
https://news.sky.com/story/rwanda-deportation-plan-prince-charles-says-policy-is-appalling-as-court-rules-first-asylum-seekers-can-be-sent-away-12631489
It was about a salami. I told her she was eating too much of our special lockdown salami. The argument lasted about 5 minutes then we both burst out laughing
It’s the one thing he has to do. Studied neutrality
33 years for me this summer, so a long way to go to match OKC and OQC up. Congratulations!
New Thread, btw.