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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,972
    Bonnie Raitt night on BBC4....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,646
    Fishing said:

    Being Boris Johnson's obvious successor seems to be a rather high-risk career choice.
    He didn't get where he is today by not being bloody good at the more brutal end of politics.

    But, surely we are all left with one thought after todays back and forth?

    Where is Dom?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,157

    It's borshch in both languages. I think the Russians eat beetroot-based borshch too, cabbage soup is generally shchi.
    "Eat cabbage in your soup
    Like a Borscht
    Put Beetroot in there too
    Like a Borscht"
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074
    🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

    NEW

    Rishi Sunak's Green Card controversy just made the White House Daily Briefing... https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1512511744014442502
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074
    NEW / 2

    White House asked why Rishi Sunak had a Green Card when the guidelines say you can't be a member of a foreign government

    White House spox promises to speak to State Department

    👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️ https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1512522060844740614
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Much gnashing of teeth at BJ Towers



    I saw my love walking down the aisle
    And as he passed me by, he turned And he smiled
    The preacher joined their hands
    And all the people began to stand
    When I shouted:
    "You know that should have been me
    Instead of her walking with you
    You know that it should have been me
    Getting ready to marry you
    Darling, darling
    You made a promise that we'd never part
    And then you turned around And broke my heart
    Now you're standing there saying 'I do'
    Holding hands with somebody new
    It should have been me
    Instead of her standing by you
    You know that it should have been me
    Getting ready to say 'I do'!"

    Now on the arm of her daddy, she's walkin' down the aisle
    I see her catch my eye and give me a secret smile
    Maybe it's too old fashioned, but we once were close friends
    Oh but the way that she looks today, she never could have then
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,164
    Another very good Snyder article.

    By denying a Ukrainian culture, Putin flattens his own
    What is ‘Russia,’ with all creativity and dissent crushed and only conformity remaining?
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/04/06/putin-culture-ukraine-mayakovsky-gogol/
    … Matters are murkier in Putin’s Russia. A war based upon a big lie is also hard on its culture of origin. Everyone is looking at the Russian nation — or perhaps, rather, for it. What does it do to a society to invade a neighbor, which it claims to love, on the basis of bottomless self-deception? Americans have not yet recovered from the lies they told about Iraq two decades ago, and the Russian deception campaign runs far deeper. How are Russian parents altered when they deny to their children in Ukraine that any war is taking place? What sort of nation makes war and then forbids the use of the very word? …
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,420

    Whoever replaces Rishi Rich will be a bit miffed that half of the Treasury has moved to Darlo.

    Not so convenient if your constituency is in Surrey.

    Dahenna for CotE!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,499
    Scott_xP said:

    NEW / 2

    White House asked why Rishi Sunak had a Green Card when the guidelines say you can't be a member of a foreign government

    White House spox promises to speak to State Department

    👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️ https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1512522060844740614

    As if it couldn't get any worse... oh wait Mr Modi is on the other line.

    The moral of the story? Don't mess with BigDog.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,272
    Cyclefree said:

    Watching the news and hearing what Ukrainians have suffered at the hands of Russian soldiers makes me wish that every single Russian soldier involved in these crimes be hung, drawn and quartered.

    Unworthy of me I know.

    But they are behaving like uncivilised savages and that their church is telling them to exterminate the Ukrainian nation shows that the rot has spread far beyond Putin.

    When was Russia ever not rotten ?

    Whether under the Mongols, Ivan the Terrible, the Czars, the communists or now Putin authoritarian brutality and vast inequality has been the common pattern.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,157

    As if it couldn't get any worse... oh wait Mr Modi is on the other line.

    The moral of the story? Don't mess with BigDog.
    Fishy Rishi!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817
    tlg86 said:

    Dahenna for CotE!
    I find that an incredibly confusing abbreviation. I keep wondering why people are so anxious to put these various failures in the Church of England.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,956
    Pour me a foaming pint of hasbeeno my good man.


  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,881

    Pour me a foaming pint of hasbeeno my good man.


    That looks very much like a photo of Trump with the North Korean president right behind him

    Remarkable. Is he still trolling the world?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074

    Pour me a foaming pint of hasbeeno my good man.

    Yes that is Holly Valance - a long way from Ramsay Street and flogging collect calls… https://twitter.com/VinnyMcAv/status/1512439142407360513/photo/1

    And on the left appears to be Nick Candy, Holly Valance's husband - a billionaire property mogul and property developer who bankrolled and was a “senior figure” in Shaun Bailey’s London mayoral campaign. https://twitter.com/VinnyMcAv/status/1512439142407360513
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,164
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    Scott_xP said:

    NEW / 2

    White House asked why Rishi Sunak had a Green Card when the guidelines say you can't be a member of a foreign government

    White House spox promises to speak to State Department

    👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️ https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1512522060844740614

    What the eff were they thinking ?
    It’s as though they thought it was just some useful token which didn’t need enquiring into very deeply before tucking in the wallet.

    The Non Dom status is awkward enough; the Green Card business quite something else.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074
    Rishi Sunak is swerving questions and switching tax codes even faster than bills are going up for the rest of us.

    When the Chancellor can’t even honestly say which country he lives in how on earth can we trust him with our taxes?


    https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1512525006701535236
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,956
    Leon said:

    That looks very much like a photo of Trump with the North Korean president right behind him

    Remarkable. Is he still trolling the world?
    I think he only sees it as a photo of Trump.
    Trump looks disgustingly and worryingly healthy though.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,420
    Scott_xP said:

    Yes that is Holly Valance - a long way from Ramsay Street and flogging collect calls… https://twitter.com/VinnyMcAv/status/1512439142407360513/photo/1

    And on the left appears to be Nick Candy, Holly Valance's husband - a billionaire property mogul and property developer who bankrolled and was a “senior figure” in Shaun Bailey’s London mayoral campaign. https://twitter.com/VinnyMcAv/status/1512439142407360513
    And prospective purchaser of Chelsea FC.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,118

    Pour me a foaming pint of hasbeeno my good man.


    Interesting to see all the photos on the wall - from the pomp of Trump's time as President. I don't think there's any way that he doesn't want to be the centre of attention again.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    ydoethur said:

    I find that an incredibly confusing abbreviation. I keep wondering why people are so anxious to put these various failures in the Church of England.
    I canon ly assume it is deaned to be a case of vicarious responsibility.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,420
    They don't make adverts like they used to...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV2zEZozhOw
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,272

    Nine US House members who voted AGAINST Russian oil ban

    https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/04-8-2022/9-nays-on-russian-oil-ban/

    Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)

    Thomas Massie (R-KY)

    Matt Gaetz (R-FL)

    Dan Bishop (R-NC)

    Andy Biggs (R-AZ)

    Chip Roy (R-TX)

    Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.): We've reached out to Rep. Gosar's office but haven't heard back. We will update if we receive a comment.

    Cori Bush (D-MO)

    Ilhan Omar (D-MN)

    Note that 8 Republicans did NOT vote on this key roll call:

    Rick Allen (R-GA)

    Michael Burgess (R-TX)

    Drew Ferguson (R-GA)

    Michael Guest (R-MS)

    Clay Higgins (R-LA)

    Blake Moore (R-UT)

    Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)

    Robert Wittman (R-VA)

    No idea what excuses they have for being AWOL; maybe "profiles in cowardice"?

    So is that a split in the Boebart-MTG axis ?

    And is Madison Cawthorn now trying to save his job ?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074
    The EU has allocated 1 billion euro to support the Ukrainian armed forces with weapons.

    And more will come. We will now propose another €500 million to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces. 

    Ukrainian people are holding up the torch of freedom for all of us.
    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1512525016910471170/photo/1
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,822
    Lyme and Charmouth (Dorset) council by-election result:

    GRN: 43.8% (+27.0)
    CON: 26.5% (-13.7)
    IND: 23.6% (-6.7)
    LAB: 6.1% (-6.6)

    Votes cast: 1,355

    Green GAIN from Conservative.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,420
    Scott_xP said:

    The EU has allocated 1 billion euro to support the Ukrainian armed forces with weapons.

    And more will come. We will now propose another €500 million to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces. 

    Ukrainian people are holding up the torch of freedom for all of us.
    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1512525016910471170/photo/1

    Will some of that be coming our way?
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    Alistair said:

    Wow, when her tax affairs first were reported I (a frothing at the mouth tax the rich until their pips squeak left-winger) didn't see what the issue was and felt that the "anger" totally confected.

    Now.... now Sunak is showing all the sure foot of a blind arthritic elephant in a over crowded china shop.
    The sad thing about this story is the emnity towards wealthy and successful people. There is no smoking gun here at all. Everything they have done is entirely legal. Being listed as a 'beneficiary' in a Cayman Islands trust.... so what.

    If you don't like non dom status.... then scrap it. But if it is there, you cannot blame people for using it. And the expectation that she has somehow a greater obligation to Britain than anyone elses wife, is laughable. There are lots of international marriages going on; it is an inevitable consequence of globalisation. People are just projecting their own ideas about marriage - largely from a different age.... on to the Sunaks.

    We have a shortage of sane and competent people going in to politics. These are the people that we elect to run the country. Why not have someone who is has been successful and is independently wealthy.... I don't see the problem. I have never been a particular fan of Sunak, but if he is hounded out over this it would be a bad loss.

    The end point, is that no one successful, goes in to politics.... and we are nearly there already. We will just get a bunch of activists. We end up with Jared O'Mara 2; over and over again.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,947
    Russians watch videos from Bucha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFNMaDbJDTk
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,430
    MattW said:

    That's actually correct, and I had forgotten.

    I think he lost 60lb.
    It was justice.

    They got him pretty fit, well, and mentally all there.

    They gave him a good lawyer and a fair trial.

    And condemned the bastard based on the mountain of evidence.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,400

    Much gnashing of teeth at BJ Towers



    Twisted and broken dawn, no days with sunlight
    The dying spark, you left your mark on me
    The promise of your kiss, but with someone else
    For the bitterest pill is mine to swallow
    The love I gave hangs in sad coloured, mocking shadows
    The bitterest pill is mine to take
    If I took if for a hundred years, I couldn't feel anymore ill!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,430

    I think he only sees it as a photo of Trump.
    Trump looks disgustingly and worryingly healthy though.
    Either he's been on a diet or something has caused him to lose weight.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817
    IshmaelZ said:

    I canon ly assume it is deaned to be a case of vicarious responsibility.
    May I precent you with your coat, sir?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967

    "Berlin is the testicles of the West. When I want the West to scream, I squeeze on Berlin!" - Krushchev.
    They asked Chairman Mao what he thought would have happened if Kruschev had been assassinated, not Kennedy. Mao thought for a second, and replied
    “I’m sure Aristotle Onassis wouldn’t have married Mrs Kruschev.”
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,157
    darkage said:

    I have never been a particular fan of Sunak, but if he is hounded out over this it would be a bad loss.

    World's smallest sitar...
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,272
    tlg86 said:

    Dahenna for CotE!
    Perhaps more realistically Sunak's Chief Secretary of the Treasury is Simon Clarke MP for Middlesbrough South.

    And being a sufferer of agoraphobia would probably rule him out from being a leadership contender.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817

    It was justice.

    They got him pretty fit, well, and mentally all there.

    They gave him a good lawyer and a fair trial.

    And condemned the bastard based on the mountain of evidence.
    Albeit he unfortunately had the last laugh in two ways:

    1) When they read the verdict, the translation went wrong so he had to stop proceedings and tell them they were talking gibberish, leading the court to dissolve in uproar;

    2) He managed to top himself before they could hang him.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,157
    ydoethur said:

    May I precent you with your coat, sir?
    Priest can you stop this!
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    edited April 2022

    He's not, but he may be Winchester's third best Boris tribute act.

    Though if this is all about Boris showing what happens to unsuccessful assassins, getting the Sunak's to pay more tax, then getting rid of Rishi is impressive.
    I’ve got a melton Mowbray pork pie in the fridge. Has anyone seen lady leading the Pork Pie Plot recently? 🤢
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,400

    Perhaps more realistically Sunak's Chief Secretary of the Treasury is Simon Clarke MP for Middlesbrough South.

    And being a sufferer of agoraphobia would probably rule him out from being a leadership contender.
    Surely a fear of market places is particularly problematic in a financial minister.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,947
    At least 23 cities in China on full or partial lockdown, covering 193 million people - Reuters
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817

    Priest can you stop this!
    Have I rect your peace of mind? If so, I shall try to curate.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,947
    Will Smith will not be allowed to attend the Academy Awards for the next 10 years, as a result of his slapping comedian Chris Rock on stage during this year's Oscar ceremony, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences announced in a statement obtained by CNN.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    darkage said:

    The sad thing about this story is the emnity towards wealthy and successful people. There is no smoking gun here at all. Everything they have done is entirely legal. Being listed as a 'beneficiary' in a Cayman Islands trust.... so what.

    If you don't like non dom status.... then scrap it. But if it is there, you cannot blame people for using it. And the expectation that she has somehow a greater obligation to Britain than anyone elses wife, is laughable. There are lots of international marriages going on; it is an inevitable consequence of globalisation. People are just projecting their own ideas about marriage - largely from a different age.... on to the Sunaks.

    We have a shortage of sane and competent people going in to politics. These are the people that we elect to run the country. Why not have someone who is has been successful and is independently wealthy.... I don't see the problem. I have never been a particular fan of Sunak, but if he is hounded out over this it would be a bad loss.

    The end point, is that no one successful, goes in to politics.... and we are nearly there already. We will just get a bunch of activists. We end up with Jared O'Mara 2; over and over again.
    Complete and utter fucking bollocks. Stanley Baldwin anonymously donated £6m in today's money, in 1919, to pay down the national debt.

    There's a huge and worrying tendency, exemplified by you, to assume that the more our megarich insect overlords fuck us, the better we like it.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    Foxy said:

    Twisted and broken dawn, no days with sunlight
    The dying spark, you left your mark on me
    The promise of your kiss, but with someone else
    For the bitterest pill is mine to swallow
    The love I gave hangs in sad coloured, mocking shadows
    The bitterest pill is mine to take
    If I took if for a hundred years, I couldn't feel anymore ill!
    Just dispense the flipping things Doc. It’s not rag mag week.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,044
    ydoethur said:

    Have I rect your peace of mind? If so, I shall try to curate.
    What a shame that Nicholas Parsons is no longer around to adjudicate on this.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817

    They asked Chairman Mao what he thought would have happened if Kruschev had been assassinated, not Kennedy. Mao thought for a second, and replied
    “I’m sure Aristotle Onassis wouldn’t have married Mrs Kruschev.”
    Since they were not officially married in 1963 (only in 1965 when he needed to make sure the Kremlin couldn't do her out of his pension when he died) it would have been impossible.

    I would add though that Nina Khrushchev was a very remarkable woman. Fluent in five languages, a shrewd political tactician and with a knack for extremely hard work. So maybe that's Onassis' loss...
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,394
    Scott_xP said:
    That was an act of tax dodging iirc.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,999

    Pour me a foaming pint of hasbeeno my good man.


    I don't see what Trump gets out of hanging out with Farage, so I'm left to conclude he actually genuinely likes the man.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Just dispense the flipping things Doc. It’s not rag mag week.
    So what about the GN tomorrow?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,999
    edited April 2022

    Will Smith will not be allowed to attend the Academy Awards for the next 10 years, as a result of his slapping comedian Chris Rock on stage during this year's Oscar ceremony, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences announced in a statement obtained by CNN.

    He doesn't need to go ever again, he's finally got the Oscar he's been after for years (and deserved, in fairness).
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,394
    Scott_xP said:

    The EU has allocated 1 billion euro to support the Ukrainian armed forces with weapons.

    And more will come. We will now propose another €500 million to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces. 

    Ukrainian people are holding up the torch of freedom for all of us.
    https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1512525016910471170/photo/1

    What is that as a proportion of the money the EU spends on weapons for the Russians through Russian oil and gas? 2%? 1%?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,430
    ydoethur said:

    Albeit he unfortunately had the last laugh in two ways:

    1) When they read the verdict, the translation went wrong so he had to stop proceedings and tell them they were talking gibberish, leading the court to dissolve in uproar;

    2) He managed to top himself before they could hang him.
    Neither of those is really a victory. Dead is dead.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,420

    Will Smith will not be allowed to attend the Academy Awards for the next 10 years, as a result of his slapping comedian Chris Rock on stage during this year's Oscar ceremony, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences announced in a statement obtained by CNN.

    Is that supposed to be a punishment?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,074
    ...
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    IshmaelZ said:

    Complete and utter fucking bollocks. Stanley Baldwin anonymously donated £6m in today's money, in 1919, to pay down the national debt.

    There's a huge and worrying tendency, exemplified by you, to assume that the more our megarich insect overlords fuck us, the better we like it.
    They pay tax on their UK income though.
    Sunak is doing a (comparatively) poorly paid job as a public servant.
    They could have just lied low and stayed out of the public eye...

    We probably are being fucked over by the 'mega rich'....
    but they are not a good example.


  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817
    tlg86 said:

    Is that supposed to be a punishment?
    The first time the Oscars have ever banned a slapper from attending.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    tlg86 said:

    Is that supposed to be a punishment?
    Don't understand this at all. What's a brother meant to do when a brother is disrespecting his hoe? Is it clever or funny to mock someone for being bald? Even when it's a woman?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Sunak has been sacrificed. More help for Cost of Living Crisis incoming as Rishi is outgoing

    https://twitter.com/TmorrowsPapers/status/1512532799743565824
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967

    Russians watch videos from Bucha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFNMaDbJDTk

    Thanks for posting.

    The majority seemed quite level headed people, a little coy about saying anything to camera about it - obviously living in a KGB state at war! Yet still not awfully supportive? Did you get the sense Francis if they all had a secret ballot in a fair election, most wouldn’t support it? One big caveat to this vox pop, it’s youngish people in a metropolitan area? Putin’s power base, much like Erdagons, is out in the sticks, elderly, religious, conservative in nature? And the second caveat would be, UK committing similar atrocities somewhere in world as Russia are in Ukraine, would a vox pop here also pick up this degree of turning heads away and disconnecting from it?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,400
    Fishing said:

    What is that as a proportion of the money the EU spends on weapons for the Russians through Russian oil and gas? 2%? 1%?
    A million euros is a trifle. An oligarch has to pay more than that for a seat in the Lords.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Thanks for posting.

    The majority seemed quite level headed people, a little coy about saying anything to camera about it - obviously living in a KGB state at war! Yet still not awfully supportive? Did you get the sense Francis if they all had a secret ballot in a fair election, most wouldn’t support it? One big caveat to this vox pop, it’s youngish people in a metropolitan area? Putin’s power base, much like Erdagons, is out in the sticks, elderly, religious, conservative in nature? And the second caveat would be, UK committing similar atrocities somewhere in world as Russia are in Ukraine, would a vox pop here also pick up this degree of turning heads away and disconnecting from it?
    Yeah, fuck that. Where's the value in the 5:15 at Aintree?
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    How does Sunaks wife stay as a non-dom and pay UK tax on foreign earnings . Can you just offer to pay them money even though legally you don’t need to !
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,972
    tlg86 said:

    Is that supposed to be a punishment?
    There's now going to be a John Wayne-style fistfight next year. Chairs smashed over heads, people thrown through windows.....
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    IshmaelZ said:

    So what about the GN tomorrow?
    I thought I would be professional and wait for the going stick, check the non runners (they might wake up with a cough) and post shortly after 9am Saturday.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    IshmaelZ said:

    Yeah, fuck that. Where's the value in the 5:15 at Aintree?
    You are going to have to be patient.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817

    There's now going to be a John Wayne-style fistfight next year. Chairs smashed over heads, people thrown through windows.....
    Would be better to have the fight scene from Blazing Saddles where they end up in the canteen.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,710
    Foxy said:

    A million euros is a trifle. An oligarch has to pay more than that for a seat in the Lords.
    It's a billion, not a million, though.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,405
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    As someone might have said, you wait ages for a 35% swing and two come along at once.

    A very good of local by-election results for the Greens and for the LDs - probably means nothing but I do wonder if we'll see a big anti-duopoly vote in a month's time. That's the thing with anger - it can lash out in all directions.

    The expectations management game is under way, it seems, ahead of the local elections. The problem for Labour in London is how well they did last time. The vote split was (roughly) LAB 44, CON 29, LD 13. In councillors that meant 1,128 for Labour, 508 for the Conservatives and 152 for the LDs.

    Obviously, we have boundary changes as OGH has noted so Labour, for example, will move up 6 simply because Newham is increasing from 60 to 66 due to rising population whereas other areas will see fewer councillors so councillor numbers may not tell the whole story.

    The key is often when councils change hands as we know - can the LDs hold all three of their councils, will the Conservatives hold their seven? We've already some Conservative-inclined claim holding on to Kensington & Chelsea would represent success but if Labour said they'd have a good night if they held Lambeth, no one would be convinced.

    There's also the complexity of turnout - last time only Richmond saw a turnout above 50% while in Barking & Dagenham turnout was 29.5%.

    Now that we can’t vote in European elections, the local elections will be the best opportunity for people to cast a protest vote.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    ydoethur said:

    Since they were not officially married in 1963 (only in 1965 when he needed to make sure the Kremlin couldn't do her out of his pension when he died) it would have been impossible.

    I would add though that Nina Khrushchev was a very remarkable woman. Fluent in five languages, a shrewd political tactician and with a knack for extremely hard work. So maybe that's Onassis' loss...
    It must have been lost in translation, like in Red Monarch on BritBox,

    You are never wrong ydoethur, Aristotle Onassis loss

    image
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,972
    ydoethur said:

    Would be better to have the fight scene from Blazing Saddles where they end up in the canteen.
    And we go live to the 2023 Oscars ceremony....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMK6lzmSk2o
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,164
    edited April 2022

    Will Smith will not be allowed to attend the Academy Awards for the next 10 years, as a result of his slapping comedian Chris Rock on stage during this year's Oscar ceremony, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences announced in a statement obtained by CNN.

    Sounds like more of a reward than a punishment.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    nico679 said:

    How does Sunaks wife stay as a non-dom and pay UK tax on foreign earnings . Can you just offer to pay them money even though legally you don’t need to !

    Yes. You don't tick the box on the tax return claiming non-dom status.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    edited April 2022
    Likely to be the final French poll to be released before the restrictions come in.

    Ipsos .

    Fieldwork today with a large sample size of 10,425. Changes with their previous large sample poll of April 2 to 4.

    Macron 26.5
    Le Pen 22.5 (+1)
    Mélenchon 17.5 (+1.5)
    Zemmour 9 (-1 )
    Pécresse 8.5
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,558

    Now that we can’t vote in European elections, the local elections will be the best opportunity for people to cast a protest vote.
    No, that's the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, for those unfortunate enough to have them. The ultimate 'cock and balls' voting opportunity.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,044

    Sunak has been sacrificed. More help for Cost of Living Crisis incoming as Rishi is outgoing

    https://twitter.com/TmorrowsPapers/status/1512532799743565824
    Akshata Murthy will be paying quite a lot of tax, but I doubt it will be enough to solve the Cost of Living Crisis.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,277


    I thought I would be professional and wait for the going stick, check the non runners (they might wake up with a cough) and post shortly after 9am Saturday.

    It's not a race from a punting point of view which I enjoy.

    I can count the number of times I've backed the winner in the last 30 years on the fingers of one hand - my last big win was PINEAU DE RE in 2014 who I backed at 33s after I overheard Brendan Powell Senior telling some people at Plumpton Leighton Aspell had told him the horse had a big chance.

    So much for hours of detailed form analysis.

    It's a different race now from what it was - arguably more competitive and at the same time less. There's much less complete dead wood in the race but the overall rise in quality means the winner is often well fancied - the last four have been 14/1, 10/1, 4/1 and 11/1.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,405
    IshmaelZ said:

    Now on the arm of her daddy, she's walkin' down the aisle
    I see her catch my eye and give me a secret smile
    Maybe it's too old fashioned, but we once were close friends
    Oh but the way that she looks today, she never could have then
    I once loved a lass,
    and I loved her so well,
    And I hated all others,
    who spoke of her ill.
    And now she's rewarded me,
    well for my love,
    For she's gone,
    and she's wed another.

    And I saw my love,
    up to the church go,
    With bride and brides-maidens,
    she made a fine show.
    And I followed on,
    with my heart full of woe,
    For she's gone,
    and she's wed another.

    I saw my love,
    as she sat doon to dine.
    I sat doon beside her,
    and poured the wine.
    And I thought of the lassie,
    that should have been mine,
    Now she's gone,
    and she's wed another.

    All men in yon forest,
    they asked of me,
    “How many strawberries,
    grow in the salt sea?”
    And I answered them,
    with a tear in my eye,
    “How many ships,
    sail in the forest?”

    Oh dig me a grave,
    and dig it sae deep,
    And cover it over,
    with wee flowers sae sweet.
    And I lay me doon,
    for to tak' a long sleep,
    And maybe in time,
    I'll forget her.

    So they dug him a grave,
    and they dug it sae deep,
    And they covered it over,
    with wee flowers sae sweet,
    And he lay him doon,
    for to take a long sleep,
    And maybe in time,
    he'll forget her.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    nico679 said:

    How does Sunaks wife stay as a non-dom and pay UK tax on foreign earnings . Can you just offer to pay them money even though legally you don’t need to !

    You don't have to offer, the liability is there automatically unless you take steps, and pay a lot of money, to make it go away.

    Do you ever get the feeling that rhetorical questions don't always work?
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,296
    nico679 said:

    How does Sunaks wife stay as a non-dom and pay UK tax on foreign earnings . Can you just offer to pay them money even though legally you don’t need to !


    Voluntary payments / donations to government
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    Foss said:


    Voluntary payments / donations to government
    Thanks for the link . I never realized you could that !
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,298

    No, that's the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, for those unfortunate enough to have them. The ultimate 'cock and balls' voting opportunity.
    The only elections I refuse to vote in. I don't even want to spoil my paper and boost the turnout.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,119
    edited April 2022
    Farooq said:

    Yes. But also to do with the Polish PM's antisemitism.
    In the context of Russia invading its neighbours to 'denazify' them, it might not be a wise narrative to promote.

    @SamRamani2
    The Russian Foreign Ministry transfers its "denazification" rhetoric on Ukraine to Latvia:

    "The ruling regime in Latvia has long been well known for its neo-Nazi preferences and attempts to whitewash the atrocities of Nazi Germany 's henchmen"


    https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1512491275630559244
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    stodge said:

    It's not a race from a punting point of view which I enjoy.

    I can count the number of times I've backed the winner in the last 30 years on the fingers of one hand - my last big win was PINEAU DE RE in 2014 who I backed at 33s after I overheard Brendan Powell Senior telling some people at Plumpton Leighton Aspell had told him the horse had a big chance.

    So much for hours of detailed form analysis.

    It's a different race now from what it was - arguably more competitive and at the same time less. There's much less complete dead wood in the race but the overall rise in quality means the winner is often well fancied - the last four have been 14/1, 10/1, 4/1 and 11/1.
    Yes they have continually changed the course, and it attracts better horses in, like Eclair Surf sneaking in quite late. When I was young it seemed to be soft conditions more than recently, the good going favours the quicker horses and quicker time doesn’t it? If it was a hurdle race for example, even at that distance I would be confident of picking out a winner, probably Eclair Surf would be there at finish if it wasn’t for the jumping.

    When flat season kicks in Stodge, 2yr olds over 7f, if I bet at all it will be on your tips. I’ll be differing to you and PBs other flat experts.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,889
    O.T

    Fearne Cotton is playing some great 90 hits on her Radio 2 show. KLF — 3AM Eternal atm.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,558
    kjh said:

    The only elections I refuse to vote in. I don't even want to spoil my paper and boost the turnout.
    Fortunately the role has been abolished in West Yorkshire, now we have the "Queen of the North ".
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,554

    In the context of Russia invading its neighbours to 'denazify' them, it might not be a wise narrative to promote.

    @SamRamani2
    The Russian Foreign Ministry transfers its "denazification" rhetoric on Ukraine to Latvia:

    "The ruling regime in Latvia has long been well known for its neo-Nazi preferences and attempts to whitewash the atrocities of Nazi Germany 's henchmen"


    https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1512491275630559244
    Are we allowed to mention Russia being an ally of Nazi Germany and sending it war matériel for two years? Or is that something Russians seek to whitewash?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,824

    In the context of Russia invading its neighbours to 'denazify' them, it might not be a wise narrative to promote.
    It is, nevertheless, probably true.

    At the very least, like Corbyn, he chooses to hang out with antisemites.

    Now you might argue it is not a good time to say such things, but it doesn't seem like Macron is something completely outrageous.

    It's also perfectly possible that the Polish PM is absolutely right in standing up to Russia and in supporting Ukraine, but has some features that make him less than perfect.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,999

    No, that's the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, for those unfortunate enough to have them. The ultimate 'cock and balls' voting opportunity.
    That's indeed no joke, I've come across more scrawled penises in those than any other type (still not all that many, but more than the usual one or two).
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,967
    kle4 said:

    That's indeed no joke, I've come across more scrawled penises in those than any other type (still not all that many, but more than the usual one or two).
    You sure they are not truncheons
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817
    Cyclefree said:

    Are we allowed to mention Russia being an ally of Nazi Germany and sending it war matériel for two years? Or is that something Russians seek to whitewash?
    If I were talking to the Russian government right now, my only questions would be what are they smoking and where do I get some?

    Not for personal use, you understand. Twelve ounces of whatever it is they're on sold in the right market would clear the national debt.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,956
    If the EU doesn't pull out every stop on EU membership for Ukraine there's going to have to be a helluva lot of backtracking.


  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,617
    Andy_JS said:

    O.T

    Fearne Cotton is playing some great 90 hits on her Radio 2 show. KLF — 3AM Eternal atm.

    If that sort of thing is your cup of tea, have you been watching the BBC series on Top of the Pops? Very watchable. They're up to 1993. The thing I like best about it is all the songs which I remember but which didn't really move me at all at the time, and where the individuals involved turn out to be gratifyingly articulate and likeable.
    We watched TOTP despite 80% of it leaving us cold for the odd occasion when someone from our tribe would be on. And as a consequence we were exposed to everyone else's stuff too. I slightly miss that.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,999

    If the EU doesn't pull out every stop on EU membership for Ukraine there's going to have to be a helluva lot of backtracking.


    Presumably the danger is more from individual bits of the EU seeking to throw a spanner in the works.

    At the very least though getting candidate status seems unproblematic, you can be in there for ages after all.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,558

    If the EU doesn't pull out every stop on EU membership for Ukraine there's going to have to be a helluva lot of backtracking.


    Does Orban have a veto?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,817

    Does Orban have a veto?
    A veto. Or ban?

    Good night.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,972
    Andy_JS said:

    O.T

    Fearne Cotton is playing some great 90 hits on her Radio 2 show. KLF — 3AM Eternal atm.

    Caught Bjork - Big Time Sensuality earlier. One of my 90s favs.

    Just crawling into the 90's - late 99 - was another of my all time desert island discs - James with "Just Like Fred Astaire".
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,296
    edited April 2022

    If the EU doesn't pull out every stop on EU membership for Ukraine there's going to have to be a helluva lot of backtracking.


    She’ll be gone before that’s a problem for her.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,641
    darkage said:

    The sad thing about this story is the emnity towards wealthy and successful people. There is no smoking gun here at all. Everything they have done is entirely legal. Being listed as a 'beneficiary' in a Cayman Islands trust.... so what.

    If you don't like non dom status.... then scrap it. But if it is there, you cannot blame people for using it. And the expectation that she has somehow a greater obligation to Britain than anyone elses wife, is laughable. There are lots of international marriages going on; it is an inevitable consequence of globalisation. People are just projecting their own ideas about marriage - largely from a different age.... on to the Sunaks.

    We have a shortage of sane and competent people going in to politics. These are the people that we elect to run the country. Why not have someone who is has been successful and is independently wealthy.... I don't see the problem. I have never been a particular fan of Sunak, but if he is hounded out over this it would be a bad loss.

    The end point, is that no one successful, goes in to politics.... and we are nearly there already. We will just get a bunch of activists. We end up with Jared O'Mara 2; over and over again.
    I mostly agree. From my left-wing position I think that frothing over individuals taking advantage of a deliberately-created loophole is a distraction and unfair as well. Change the system so that it rewards people for doing what we want - making nondom status vastly more expensive would be a start, so that in the end it's usually more sensible just to pay tax in the country where you live..
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,972
    Utterly O/T, is there anything over the past 50 years as unchanging as a box of Weetabix?
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