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I suspect that Rotherham taxidrivers may find torturing and raping for ISIS rather to their taste.Alanbrooke said:
I wonder if we could send them some taxi drivers from Rotherham ?isam said:Isis say British hostage is next
http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/9/2/steven_sutloff_.html
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Joking aside, at least I hope you are – one of the truly appalling aspects of the Rotherham report was the revelation that a third of the abused children were in care homes of one form or another. – Their failure to protect their charges should form the next inquiry after the Labour run council and S’Yorkshire police.MrJones said:I wonder how many Labour councillors own taxi firms that have the council contract for transporting kids to and from the children's homes in the council's area.
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Most likely to be murdered by a Brit.isam said:Isis say British hostage is next
http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/9/2/steven_sutloff_.html0 -
Question: What do Scotnats call economic illiterates ?GIN1138 said:
What would be paramount for rUK would be to elect a government with the strongest mandate possible (i.e. a landslide) to be as tough as possible with Scotland in the post referendum negotiations.Sean_F said:My view is that if Scotland voted Yes, UKIP would surge South of the Border.
Who would rUK most trust to stand up for our interests? That would be the question.
Answer: Canny
Too wee ? - no
Too poor? - no
Too stupid ? - well they said it.0 -
There is a blindingly obvious reason why they wouldn't be raping in the Middle East for Isis thoughfoxinsoxuk said:
I suspect that Rotherham taxidrivers may find torturing and raping for ISIS rather to their taste.Alanbrooke said:
I wonder if we could send them some taxi drivers from Rotherham ?isam said:Isis say British hostage is next
http://mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/9/2/steven_sutloff_.html0 -
Sky : EU commissioner Olli Rehn says "impossible" for Scotland to join EU if it keeps Sterling...0
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"Ten men have been arrested during dawn raids by officers investigating child sexual exploitation dating back to 2005. -The arrested men are aged between 28 and 45.dr_spyn said:Mixed bag of child abuse suspects arrested in Bucks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29029364
Five are of Pakistani origin, one is of Indian origin, one man is black Caribbean and another is of Afghan origin. The ethnicity of the last two men is not yet known."
Blimey, that must be the first time I've seen a report by the BBC that breaks down ethnicity and has not used the generic catch all 'Asian' tag - I wonder what has brought this on ?0 -
I recognise you want that Stuart, as malcolmg clearly does too, but I was taking issue with the statement that Scotland is the only country in the world with "someone else" running its affairs. Scottish ministers led the whole of the UK less than 5 years ago (Treasury + No.10 is a slam dunk) as well as the devolved Scottish administration; so, I don't think that's true. But I also recognise you and I may never agree on that.Stuart_Dickson said:
We do not want a few cabinet posts. We want 100% of our cabinet posts to be filled by our elected representatives. We want to govern ourselves.Casino_Royale said:
The UK has always had a Scottish minister in cabinet. Less than 5 years ago the UK also had a Scottish PM and Scottish Chancellor of the Exchequer. It also had a Scottish Secretary of State for Health, Home, Defence within the last 8 years. In today's government, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury is a Scottish MP - controlling the purse strings. Several Scots sit for English seats as MPs - including Liam Fox and Michael Gove - who were also Secretaries of State for defence and education, respectively, in the current government.malcolmg said:
NO will be a disaster for Scotland , the only country in the world to vote for someone else to run their affairs and Westminster will take revenge for us being so uppity and we will get no extra powers , only responsibilities and budget cuts..Luckyguy1983 said:
Only a YES will do. Plus we may actually get some defence capability. Your pathetic use of "sawn" shows you are a no hoper with no vision.
That's not bad for a UK home nation with <10% of the population. It also give Scots and Scotland a very strong voice on the world stage - and a lot broader influence. I accept that the party politics of Scotland has moved out of kilter with the remainder of the UK over the last 20 years (which I suspect much of this referendum is about) but it's a bit of a stretch (particularly when you consider the Scottish government already has powers over health, education, housing and law & order amongst others) to say that Scotland's affairs are "run by someone else".
Nor is it true that the Scottish government will get no extra powers in the case of a NO vote - all of the mainstream parties are committing to granting further powers, including granting additional tax & spend powers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28897427</p>
For the record, I had (and have) no problem with Scots being at the helm of the UK either; my objection was purely to that particular administration based on the policies of the party concerned.
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Caught in Swindon. More child perps.
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Yes continues to shorten. Best prices:
Yes 3/1 (Betfair, Betdaq, Bwin)
No 3/10 (Betdaq, BoyleSports)0 -
Oh that's funny ! A decade of moneyless moaning as Nats tell everyone that giving Salmond everything he wants is in their interest and everyone else says piss off.RodCrosby said:Sky : EU commissioner Olli Rehn says "impossible" for Scotland to join EU if it keeps Sterling...
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"Care Home" seems to be a euphemism for Rape Camp.SimonStClare said:
Joking aside, at least I hope you are – one of the truly appalling aspects of the Rotherham report was the revelation that a third of the abused children were in care homes of one form or another. – Their failure to protect their charges should form the next inquiry after the Labour run council and S’Yorkshire police.MrJones said:I wonder how many Labour councillors own taxi firms that have the council contract for transporting kids to and from the children's homes in the council's area.
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Canada very carefully chooses its immigrants to make sure they are of a high quality. There's a reason why the kids of Canadian immigrants do just as well in schools as the kids of non-immigrants - the only country in the world where this is the case.Flightpath said:'Bigoted fantasies'? Mr Tyndall? Hilarious.
Take a look at immigration with countries with 'controls' - countries you like to talk about. (Talk about no more I suspect) Proportionatly much higher than ours and pretty much just as high in real terms.
In fact we are controlling non EU immigration ( we cannot control emigration - or former ex pats returning) and EU immigration is mostly transitory.
You are between a rock anjd a hard place when it comes to facing the truth and facing up to what really floats Carswells boat.
The new deal with Canada involves free movement of Labour and that will get wider over time. This is the modern world, what trade deals are all about. It does not matter if we have one within the EU or 28 if out of it - it will not make much real difference.
The only difference is UKIP putting all that power in the hands of Labour.
BTW - Canada’s Temporary Foreign Worker program in 2012 allowed a record 491,547 non-Canadians to work in Canada. (thats not counting the immigrants)0 -
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Isis murderer of Stephen Sotloff had similar British accent to that of the murderer of James Foley0
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I think that's correct. It'd be seen as messy, and a priority for politicians to sort out, but not much to do with the price of fish. The reality is that very few political issues today really engage most people. The political world would be convulsed, of course.HurstLlama said:
Would a Yes vote cause that sort of reaction? I am not sure. I suspect most English people (and with full respect to our Welsh and NI friends, they are too small in number to matter on this one) will shrug and say, "Yeah, whatever" and carry on. Once the politicians see that the panic will subside. I doubt that the majority of the English electorate are even aware of the referendum happening and the minority that do couldn't give a big rat's bottom.
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For the 2nd time today Paddy Power have increased their Yes vote % line bet. Now:
46.5%+ 4/5
46.5%- 10/11
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I'm starting to reconsider my opposition to capital punishment.isam said:Isis murderer of Stephen Sotloff had similar British accent to that of the murderer of James Foley
My preference would be to throw people who join them in solitary confinement for 50 years, but I can't trust the PC brigade to stick to that.0 -
Surely the point is the UK would be free to choose outside the EU/EEA?Socrates said:
Canada very carefully chooses its immigrants to make sure they are of a high quality. There's a reason why the kids of Canadian immigrants do just as well in schools as the kids of non-immigrants - the only country in the world where this is the case.Flightpath said:'Bigoted fantasies'? Mr Tyndall? Hilarious.
Take a look at immigration with countries with 'controls' - countries you like to talk about. (Talk about no more I suspect) Proportionatly much higher than ours and pretty much just as high in real terms.
In fact we are controlling non EU immigration ( we cannot control emigration - or former ex pats returning) and EU immigration is mostly transitory.
You are between a rock anjd a hard place when it comes to facing the truth and facing up to what really floats Carswells boat.
The new deal with Canada involves free movement of Labour and that will get wider over time. This is the modern world, what trade deals are all about. It does not matter if we have one within the EU or 28 if out of it - it will not make much real difference.
The only difference is UKIP putting all that power in the hands of Labour.
BTW - Canada’s Temporary Foreign Worker program in 2012 allowed a record 491,547 non-Canadians to work in Canada. (thats not counting the immigrants)
We could either go for high immigration like Canada, or low immigration like Japan or South Korea.
I can't see how the selection of either automatically makes a fundamental difference to the success of a major developed economy.
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I see we've now dropped below Russia and Saudi Arabia in this table - two wonderful, progressive and peace loving countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
Well done Cameron.0 -
The fact that the Tories halve Carswell's majority in the general election compared to the by election shows the right candidate is key so he can build name recognition and campaign infrastructure. Though apparently local Tories have ruled out an open primary as too expensive0
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Just 22% saying they'll vote Tory in Clacton at the general election. That's probably the most depressing news for the Conservatives.0
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Danny Alexander behind currency bombshell:-
'Speaking this evening, Danny will say:
"The nationalists say that they will be able to continue using the UK pound even if they become a separate state.
"Because, even if the rest of the UK doesn’t agree to a currency union, they have said that Scotland would use the pound without a formal agreement...
"... this is an arrangement known as “sterlingisation”, which would mean Scotland would not have a central bank to set interest rates or act as a lender of last resort.
"This is not only a bonkers idea which flies in the face of any reasonable notion of what independence means and which would impose costs and risks on people and businesses in Scotland...
"... it is also incompatible with Scotland’s smooth re-entry into the EU.
"I will tell you why.
"Today I am publishing an exchange of letters between myself and former European Commissioner Olli Rehn, relating to the issue of Scottish independence. ...'
http://www.libdems.org.uk/danny_alexander_reveals_eu_currency_bombshell0 -
Nat's would say they WILL have a central bank - The Bank Of England.RodCrosby said:
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Scottish Labour finally getting into gear to get its voters out for No
Brown started a speaking tour of Scotland http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29023267
Jim Murphy resumed his soap box campaign in Edinburgh http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-290197150 -
What happens to Scottish UKIP if Yes wins?
Maybe they will become SIP.0 -
What are the chances the US start getting heavy with the UK as more of its citizens are beheaded by British men in the Middle East?0
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Alexander:-
"So an independent Scotland would face a simple choice – using the pound like Panama uses the dollar, or joining the EU.
"It can’t have both..."0 -
F... them, they've blown the crap out of enough of ours whilst we are allies.isam said:What are the chances the US start getting heavy with the UK as more of its citizens are beheaded by British men in the Middle East?
We will sort our extremists, they can sort out theirs, they have about 150 million of them0 -
Most likely to be murdered by a Brit.
Or certainly by someone who received a British passport thanks to Labour.0 -
Goan?MikeK said:Caught in Swindon. More child perps.
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EaglesTheScreamingEagles said:
I make no apology for 'slagging off' this government about Rotherham.
Because they deserve it. Just because there are so many others deserving of blame doesn't absolve this government of its share.
And certainly not Warsi.
As Communities Minister for two years this certainly came under her responsibilities, with her background she would have had more influence, and what did she do ?
Well it seems that she gave the London Evening Standard an exclusive interview on the issue.
Wow.
How many new victims were there in Rotherham alone while Warsi was Communities Minister ? 100 ? 200 ? 300 ?
And what did she actually do ?
This government's policy on the issue is, and continues to be, blind eye toleration.
Now as we know Warsi is willing to resign on an issue she feels strongly about.
But this government's blind eye toleration to thousands of child rapes a year clearly wasn't deemed to be such a resignation issue.
The last paragraph from that Standard article is revealing:
' Lady Warsi said she decided to speak out after her Pakistan-born father urged her: “Sayeeda, uniquely, you are in a position to show leadership on this issue.” '
Do you think Warsi showed leadership on this issue ?
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Ashcroft - Clacton, general election:
Including only positive responses:
UKIP 48.8%
Con 27.5%
Lab 18.8%
LD 2.5%
Green 2.5%0 -
But remember that we're now an 'Aid Superpower'.Casino_Royale said:I see we've now dropped below Russia and Saudi Arabia in this table - two wonderful, progressive and peace loving countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
Well done Cameron.
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Its on a knife edge then!AndyJS said:Ashcroft - Clacton, general election:
Including only positive responses:
UKIP 48.8%
Con 27.5%
Lab 18.8%
LD 2.5%
Green 2.5%
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Wonder when the US will start asking for visas from UK/European nationals again?
It will focus the minds of the Florida-loving classes in any case.
Or will they merely ask this of those with Middle Eastern/Muslim names. To howls of outrage of course.0 -
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TODAYS BJESUS
2.9.14 LAB 331(333) CON 261(259) LD 34(34) Others24 (24) Ed is crap is PM
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Please don't tell anyone I said this, but Danny Alexander has proved to be an excellent choice at the Treasury. I will be particularly sad when he loses his seat next year.0
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Would you like to put some money on that?Itajai said:Wonder when the US will start asking for visas from UK/European nationals again?
It will focus the minds of the Florida-loving classes in any case.
Or will they merely ask this of those with Middle Eastern/Muslim names. To howls of outrage of course.
I say £1,000 says that the ESTA (no visa for UK) system stays for the next five years.
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You are right of course. Rights will always trump security.rcs1000 said:
Would you like to put some money on that?Itajai said:Wonder when the US will start asking for visas from UK/European nationals again?
It will focus the minds of the Florida-loving classes in any case.
Or will they merely ask this of those with Middle Eastern/Muslim names. To howls of outrage of course.
I say £1,000 says that the ESTA (no visa for UK) system stays for the next five years.0 -
Malcolm - at this stage we should be putting up factual arguments rather than those that are easy to knock down.malcolmg said:
Can you tell me how many ships and helicopters we currently have providing defence in Scotland. I will give you a clue , ships = ZERO, might be lucky if we have a few sea king helicopters. So anything would be an improvement , and given we send 3.5 Billion south for nothing , it will be a lot cheaper.TheWatcher said:
Fishery protection vessels, and a few helicopters.malcolmg said:
Plus we may actually get some defence capability.Luckyguy1983 said:Because we've not heard nearly enough about the indy ref, my view as an englishman living in Scotland is that perhaps a narrow no is better than a decisive no (a yes obviously being a disaster, for Scotland more than anyone else). I actually think it might cause less division if the inevitable new powers were seen as 'won' rather than just granted. I would be personally be particularly delighted if we were to scrap Trident - a symbolic move for Scotland as well as a victory for fiscal sanity and our rel deffence capability. It would be a victory of sort for yes, but without the nemesis of despair, poverty and recrimination that would be a sawn off Scotland. They deserve to face the music, but we don't always get what we deserve.
Bon Chance!
The current Faslane surface ship establishment is 7 (older type) mine countermeasure vessels and 2 small patrol boats
After independence that will rise to a command ship, two frigates, two offshore protection ships, four mine vessels, four to six patrol boats with two more frigates and support vessels within 5 years0 -
Would they become the UK Integration Party?AndyJS said:What happens to Scottish UKIP if Yes wins?
Maybe they will become SIP.0 -
Although I do remember the mass hysteria in the US when the French demanded visas of all non-EU and CH citizens in 1986 as a result of some leftish terrorism. Of course at the time the French needed visas to go to the US but that did not fit the media narrative...rcs1000 said:
Would you like to put some money on that?Itajai said:Wonder when the US will start asking for visas from UK/European nationals again?
It will focus the minds of the Florida-loving classes in any case.
Or will they merely ask this of those with Middle Eastern/Muslim names. To howls of outrage of course.
I say £1,000 says that the ESTA (no visa for UK) system stays for the next five years.0 -
"After independence that will rise to a command ship, two frigates, two offshore protection ships, four mine vessels, four to six patrol boats with two more frigates and support vessels within 5 years"
And all for less than about a billion a year including staffing, training and maintenance costs.0 -
There surely would be room for a unionist party; and what a cracking name! Even I might support it.manofkent2014 said:
Would they become the UK Integration Party?AndyJS said:What happens to Scottish UKIP if Yes wins?
Maybe they will become SIP.0 -
Christian-Goan I'd guess (Anglo first names, Portuguese surnames is usually a giveaway). Goes to show child abuse is not confined to any one ethnic heritage, not that we needed reminding of that.Itajai said:
Goan?MikeK said:Caught in Swindon. More child perps.
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Surely he will have to resign on 19th September once Scotland has voted Yes.rcs1000 said:Please don't tell anyone I said this, but Danny Alexander has proved to be an excellent choice at the Treasury. I will be particularly sad when he loses his seat next year.
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FUD, you just get better and better, did you read the ridicule of both of them by the public, we are now at almost 50% of Labour voters moved to YES. They are doing a grand job as double agents.HYUFD said:Scottish Labour finally getting into gear to get its voters out for No
Brown started a speaking tour of Scotland http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29023267
Jim Murphy resumed his soap box campaign in Edinburgh http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-290197150 -
Surely no country can have had a bigger traitor than Alexander. He will reap what he has sown, should enjoy his troughing while he can.SouthamObserver said:
Surely he will have to resign on 19th September once Scotland has voted Yes.rcs1000 said:Please don't tell anyone I said this, but Danny Alexander has proved to be an excellent choice at the Treasury. I will be particularly sad when he loses his seat next year.
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Now that's desperate.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm writing a piece on that.Richard_Nabavi said:Of course we have IndyRef first, so one needs to be a bit cautious in extrapolating from the current polls. A Yes result would of course be a massive jolt to the system, with unpredictable consequences. Even a No result may leave some considerable aftershocks in its wake, as the narrative turns to what the future shape of the Union will be.
Scotland votes yes, capital flight, bank bailout again all during the Clacton campaign.
Remember the second Brown bounce during the banking crisis.0 -
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RodCrosby said:
Intermittently, quote doesn't work, and post doesn't work unless I right click "Select all" on the text box...Sunil_Prasannan said:
As you can see, no.RodCrosby said:Anyone else having problems with the quote and post buttons?
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Does this thing work?0
