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  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    edited October 2021

    So the heart condition (WPW) I was diagnosed with while at university was down to my diet? Or perhaps I was born with it https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/wolff-parkinson-white-syndrome/
    The NHS isn't being kept busy by the incidence of WPW to my knowledge, it's being kept busy by diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, and recently by those who sadly haven't enjoyed robust enough health to recover independently from COVID. Those things most certainly are down to environmental factors, of which diet is a huge part.
  • MaxPB said:

    Getting rid of all ready meals would be a huge net gain for the nation. They're universally terrible.
    Ready meals are probably better than my alternative when I come home from school knackered and not wanting to have to cook, which is the local Chinese take-away.

  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,537
    MaxPB said:

    Getting rid of all ready meals would be a huge net gain for the nation. They're universally terrible.
    'Universally' is a bit OTT. Even for ready meals. There are, round here anyway, some good local suppliers.
  • MaxPB said:

    Getting rid of all ready meals would be a huge net gain for the nation. They're universally terrible.
    No they are not. Good quality (and not necessarily cheap) ready meals are a thing now. See for instance, the Charlie Bigham range, or even supermarkets' own "posh" brands.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    MaxPB said:

    Getting rid of all ready meals would be a huge net gain for the nation. They're universally terrible.
    One look at the long ingredients list reveals all. One thing we should do is bin “home economics” and “food technology” and replace it with: cookery. Get children cooking properly from an early age and tasting the dishes of their classmates from different backgrounds. Would massively reduce the market for shit processed food in a generation.
  • The NHS isn't being kept busy by the incidence of WPW to my knowledge, it's being kept busy by diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, and recently by those who sadly haven't enjoyed robust enough health to recover independently from COVID. Those things most certainly are down to environmental factors, of which diet is a huge part.
    But you started by saying that the NHS should be obsolete. How could it then have treated my condition?
  • One look at the long ingredients list reveals all. One thing we should do is bin “home economics” and “food technology” and replace it with: cookery. Get children cooking properly from an early age and tasting the dishes of their classmates from different backgrounds. Would massively reduce the market for shit processed food in a generation.
    As long as none of the dishes contain nuts of course…
  • Carnyx said:

    Yes, Mr Johnson made a lot of noice about an obesity strategy when he left hospital about 18 months ago post covid, his own porkiness habing been a factor in his covid, one presumes. But very little happened. Even when people had the time and the opportunity to change their habits.
    What exactly should have "happened"?

    He gave advice, its up to the public whether to take it up or ignore it.

    Its not the government's job to determine what we eat.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098

    No they are not. Good quality (and not necessarily cheap) ready meals are a thing now. See for instance, the Charlie Bigham range, or even supermarkets' own "posh" brands.
    They are less shit. But read the ingredients lists.....
  • BalrogBalrog Posts: 207
    Carnyx said:

    I don't know if that would work - which is part of the problem.
    How could it not work. Even if google knew you had multiple accounts, it doesn't join their contacts.if you use Chrome it gives you different browser windows for your separate profiles.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809

    Ready meals are probably better than my alternative when I come home from school knackered and not wanting to have to cook, which is the local Chinese take-away.

    We all come home from work knackered. It's about finding the time to look after yourself and cooking at home is one of the most important factors in physical and mental health. Eating a super salty ready meal with 70 different ingredients and loads of added sugar takes its toll.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    What exactly should have "happened"?

    He gave advice, its up to the public whether to take it up or ignore it.

    Its not the government's job to determine what we eat.
    No, he was talking about somethijng much more substantial (so to speak).

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-launch-war-on-fat-after-coronavirus-scare-flgswhmvx

    MY distinct impression was that the results were rather slimmer than they could be:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53541866
  • What exactly should have "happened"?

    He gave advice, its up to the public whether to take it up or ignore it.

    Its not the government's job to determine what we eat.
    It seems fairly clear that society could be better, happier, healthier, and have reduced medical costs if we eat more healthily.

    So whilst on an individual short term basis of course the government should not determine what we eat, over the long run, if UK plc does not improve its diet, then government has failed. The government should put in place systems that allows us to make better decisions, that is quite different to the government making the decisions for us.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    Balrog said:

    How could it not work. Even if google knew you had multiple accounts, it doesn't join their contacts.if you use Chrome it gives you different browser windows for your separate profiles.
    The problem is that my academic email address is inevitably the same for all the publications, so that is a big link right there.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,894
    edited October 2021

    SavantaComRes

    NEW INDYREF2 POLLING:

    YES: 48%
    NO: 52%

    Yes: 45%
    No: 48%
    Don't know: 7%

    Should there be a referendum?
    Yes: 45%
    No: 47%
    Don't know: 9%

    @SavantaComRes for @TheScotsman

    So including don't knows then Yes on 45% ie exactly zero change from 2014, despite Brexit and only committed Yes voters want another indyref2.

    So Boris can easily continue to refuse to grant an indyref2
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098
    MaxPB said:

    We all come home from work knackered. It's about finding the time to look after yourself and cooking at home is one of the most important factors in physical and mental health. Eating a super salty ready meal with 70 different ingredients and loads of added sugar takes its toll.
    The other thing is that needs to be re-introduced is cooking in bulk. And using the freezer.

    I make Bolognese and various tomato sauces in bulk (for example), freeze them using a silicon tray (sold for making soap bars) into potion sized "bricks".

    I also cook in bulk and use the dish over several days.

    Both practises get an "ugh" from those who have been trained by the cooking shows that the only edible food is that which has been cooked 10 minutes before.
  • MaxPB said:

    We all come home from work knackered. It's about finding the time to look after yourself and cooking at home is one of the most important factors in physical and mental health. Eating a super salty ready meal with 70 different ingredients and loads of added sugar takes its toll.

    Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
  • BalrogBalrog Posts: 207
    Carnyx said:

    The problem is that my academic email address is inevitably the same for all the publications, so that is a big link right there.

    I assumed you were trying to separate personal contacts from academic ones.
  • Farooq said:

    Input variables interact: structural issues may only manifest under certain social or environmental conditions. I'll give a toy example which is oversimplified, but illustrates what I mean.
    If you have a large commuting population, say Aberdare residents commuting to Cardiff offices. Suppose opening train windows reduces transmission dramatically. During periods of weather when having train windows open is comfortable or even desirable, you're knocking out a commuting pillar of the transmission. When the weather gets colder, the passengers close the windows and boom, transmissions spike.

    This effect wouldn't show up at all if your work/residence/travel arrangements were different (e.g. where I live there are no trains at all, in other parts of the country commuting by bike is easier - I don't recommend cycling from Cardiff to Aberdare).

    Structural factors are not always active. And if you think about it, this is the point of masks. They interrupt the transmission that comes from people crowding into the same bus/train/shop/pub etc. If everyone wfh and had everything delivered and didn't mix in any way, masks would be pretty pointless. That structure of society isn't realistic or desirable, so masks have a realistic role if we want to take advantage of them.
    That was well explained: have you thought of becoming a teacher?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,336


    Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
    I'm in a similar situation. What I often do is cook the base of a meal during the weekend, and store that in the fridge. Then on the day just cook some frozen veg or something to go with it.
  • HYUFD said:

    So including don't knows then Yes on 45% ie exactly zero change from 2014, despite Brexit and only committed Yes voters want another indyref2.

    So Boris can easily continue to refuse to grant an indyref2
    I do not expect him to be asked

  • Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,809


    Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
    Well it's a good thing you live in the UK, at least then your diabetes and high blood pressure treatment will be free.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,894

    I do not expect him to be asked
    As union matters are reserved to Westminster he can also easily ignore the results of any non authorised indyref Unionists boycott
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    Carnyx said:

    Yes, Mr Johnson made a lot of noice about an obesity strategy when he left hospital about 18 months ago post covid, his own porkiness habing been a factor in his covid, one presumes. But very little happened. Even when people had the time and the opportunity to change their habits.
    There is a case for taxing 'sins' but again I think this misses the point slightly. For me, it's not about people being condemned for being greedy pigs, it's about harnessing the foods we already eat to improve general health silently and swiftly. To take dairy as an example, pasteurisation by heating is a very blunt instrument that destroys a lot of the nutritive content of milk - that's not only a lost benefit, it's also creating actual health problems by doing things like destroying the enzymes that digest the milk sugars, but leaving the milk sugars there. Is it any wonder therefore that people develop lactose intolerances? Scottish scientists working out of Heriott Watt developed a method of pasteurisation via pressurising the liquid, which kills pathogens but leaves a lot more of the milk content unmolested, and that to me, seems like it could be adopted universally (though I don't have the knowledge to be sure), and I believe would result in vast public health benefits.
  • MaxPB said:

    Well it's a good thing you live in the UK, at least then your diabetes and high blood pressure treatment will be free.
    Fair point.

    In fact I ought to be out getting some exercise rather than spending all morning on pb.

    ‘Till later.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,654


    Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
    Unless you buy a "Serves 2" ready meal...
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,704
    edited October 2021
    Stocky said:

    I agree it started in America. That's obvious too. Track and trace was always going to be useless. I said so on here. Labour were one of the outfits that pressurised the government to proceeding with it at pace.
    But we're talking about the public, Stocky, not you. They don't drilldown like that. So what I'm looking for is a nice surge of "they're in charge, it's all their fault, what a shower" sentiment. Only fair that this happens. It's the rules of the game.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098


    Here we run up against a major problem: I am a very lazy person.

    Actually there is a second problem. I live on my own and most recipes assume multiple people. When I cook a meal that should serve four people it somehow only seems to last me for two meals. Ready meals provide good portion control.
    Cook in bulk. Freeze in portions....
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281

    SavantaComRes

    NEW INDYREF2 POLLING:

    YES: 48%
    NO: 52%

    Yes: 45%
    No: 48%
    Don't know: 7%

    Should there be a referendum?
    Yes: 45%
    No: 47%
    Don't know: 9%

    @SavantaComRes for @TheScotsman

    Strange that.....I thought the oldies were dying off.....
  • There is a case for taxing 'sins' but again I think this misses the point slightly. For me, it's not about people being condemned for being greedy pigs, it's about harnessing the foods we already eat to improve general health silently and swiftly. To take dairy as an example, pasteurisation by heating is a very blunt instrument that destroys a lot of the nutritive content of milk - that's not only a lost benefit, it's also creating actual health problems by doing things like destroying the enzymes that digest the milk sugars, but leaving the milk sugars there. Is it any wonder therefore that people develop lactose intolerances? Scottish scientists working out of Heriott Watt developed a method of pasteurisation via pressurising the liquid, which kills pathogens but leaves a lot more of the milk content unmolested, and that to me, seems like it could be adopted universally (though I don't have the knowledge to be sure), and I believe would result in vast public health benefits.
    One last thing before I go: I spent the first eighteen years of my life on a dairy farm, drinking copious amounts of unpasteurised, whole milk. I’m not sure how much it helped…
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,673
    MaxPB said:



    Getting rid of all ready meals would be a huge net gain for the nation. They're universally terrible.

    Personally I eat virtually nothing else, for convenience reasons, and they taste fine to me and I'm in excellent health because of other stuff I do to look after myself. I think this is actually the sort of nanny-state silver-bullet stuff that shouldn't happen (would you REALLY make them illegal???) - the Government should focus on big-picture issues that can certainly include dietary advice but should also provide adequate public services.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702

    But you started by saying that the NHS should be obsolete. How could it then have treated my condition?
    I apologise for hyperbole in that instance. Of course the NHS wouldn't be completely obsolete - at any rate even if disease were to be conquered it would be needed for broken bones and other injuries.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,098

    Personally I eat virtually nothing else, for convenience reasons, and they taste fine to me and I'm in excellent health because of other stuff I do to look after myself. I think this is actually the sort of nanny-state silver-bullet stuff that shouldn't happen (would you REALLY make them illegal???) - the Government should focus on big-picture issues that can certainly include dietary advice but should also provide adequate public services.
    Your salt intake must be interesting....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702

    One last thing before I go: I spent the first eighteen years of my life on a dairy farm, drinking copious amounts of unpasteurised, whole milk. I’m not sure how much it helped…
    Well, you lived to tell the tale.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    There is a case for taxing 'sins' but again I think this misses the point slightly. For me, it's not about people being condemned for being greedy pigs, it's about harnessing the foods we already eat to improve general health silently and swiftly. To take dairy as an example, pasteurisation by heating is a very blunt instrument that destroys a lot of the nutritive content of milk - that's not only a lost benefit, it's also creating actual health problems by doing things like destroying the enzymes that digest the milk sugars, but leaving the milk sugars there. Is it any wonder therefore that people develop lactose intolerances? Scottish scientists working out of Heriott Watt developed a method of pasteurisation via pressurising the liquid, which kills pathogens but leaves a lot more of the milk content unmolested, and that to me, seems like it could be adopted universally (though I don't have the knowledge to be sure), and I believe would result in vast public health benefits.
    I was actrually thinking also of government intervention - indeed, of the kind Mr Johnson himself mooted, dealiong with food producers and suppliers as well as consumers' self-responsibility. Food standards - and actually reversing the public health funding cuts of the last decades - would be an important element.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    One last thing before I go: I spent the first eighteen years of my life on a dairy farm, drinking copious amounts of unpasteurised, whole milk. I’m not sure how much it helped…
    I don't think this milk stuff has much relevance to the inhabitants of Planet Sane
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    IshmaelZ said:

    I don't think this milk stuff has much relevance to the inhabitants of Planet Sane
    What I'm not clear about is the importance of the enzymes digesting the milk sugars: if they haven't done it in the milk, they certainly wont' do it in the drinker's stomach when the stomach acids denature the enzymes and kill their activity.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,673
    edited October 2021
    HYUFD said:

    Which exactly matches the Tories six point lead over Labour with Yougov today then.


    Yes, so the budget has had a modest positive effect, just as most of us expected. The by-elections last night showed much the same general picture."Doing well" is always a dodgy question as it covers both "I think he's be a good PM" (plenty would agree up to a point) and "I think he's being successful" (obviously not, so far).

    I don't actually think that there are many floating voters. There's ca. 40% who either like the Tories and want them in office or like Johnson/Rishi or both, feel they're doing their best and forgive any slipups. There's ca. 40% who are implacably waiting for the chance to get rid of them, regardless of how they feel about Starmer or anyone else, and will vote for whoever is best placed in their seats to do it. There's 10% who vote for minor or national parties. And there's 10% who do float around. So we're not seeing much swing against the Government and we won't see much swingback either.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,153
    edited October 2021
    Farooq said:

    Input variables interact: structural issues may only manifest under certain social or environmental conditions. I'll give a toy example which is oversimplified, but illustrates what I mean.
    If you have a large commuting population, say Aberdare residents commuting to Cardiff offices. Suppose opening train windows reduces transmission dramatically. During periods of weather when having train windows open is comfortable or even desirable, you're knocking out a commuting pillar of the transmission. When the weather gets colder, the passengers close the windows and boom, transmissions spike.

    This effect wouldn't show up at all if your work/residence/travel arrangements were different (e.g. where I live there are no trains at all, in other parts of the country commuting by bike is easier - I don't recommend cycling from Cardiff to Aberdare).

    Structural factors are not always active. And if you think about it, this is the point of masks. They interrupt the transmission that comes from people crowding into the same bus/train/shop/pub etc. If everyone wfh and had everything delivered and didn't mix in any way, masks would be pretty pointless. That structure of society isn't realistic or desirable, so masks have a realistic role if we want to take advantage of them.
    I'd suggest that improving ventilation is one of those things that isn't structural that we might want to concentrate public policy onto rather than face masks.

    It also seems unlikely that there will be significantly stronger effects from inadequate ventilation or commuting in Wales than in England.

    What this discussion tells me is that we do not know why there is higher transmission in Wales, and I think we ought to find that out before mandating face masks that we know are not the most important factor at play.

    We're no longer in the emergency phase of the pandemic where we simply have to do anything and everything in the hope that something works. We've had nearly two years to gather and analyse evidence and we have the advantage from vaccines, so we can act more slowly on the basis of good evidence.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea of ready meals, as long as the content is great. There's also nothing wrong with 'processed' foods per se - fermented vegetables, sourdough bread, yoghurt - these are all food processing and they enhance the digestibility of the food and the bioavailability of the nutrients within.

    But I agree most supermarket ready meals are pretty nasty.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    The history of free speech in Britain is rather interesting, and revealing of the national character.

    We're rather proud of our centuries-long tradition of free speech, even though it's never been as free as we imagine. Mostly this rests on speech, and particularly publishing, being notably freer in parliamentary Britain than in the enlightened despotisms of the European continent of the 18th and 19th centuries.

    There's been a large degree of cultural censure against speaking indiscreetly. The idea of things that are known but not talked about, or of topics not suitable for polite society. Where there's a certain highly-admired style of making polite insults, rather than vulgar ones.

    You see something of this in the House of Commons, where Parliamentary privilege allows MPs to speak publicly about matters that would put them at risk of defamation proceedings if said outside the chamber, but any suggestion that another MP has lied is not at all tolerated, regardless of the facts of the situation.

    The attempt to create new social norms in what is acceptable speech around gender issues is therefore something of a dramatic break with our past informal ways of regulating speech, and an attempt to take advantage of those patterns of behaviour to avoid criticism.
    An interesting point. It reminds me of the idea of a 'cage of norms' which came up a lot in the book The Narrow Corridor: How Nations Struggle for Liberty, which seemed essentially to be about how cultural traditions can be the biggest factor in creating or restricting liberty far more than anything official or legal, and how that cage can become more or less restrictive.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    Is there such a thing as "early days" in a T20 match?
    Wait until you've seen a rain shortened T20 of 4-5 overs apiece.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,423

    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?
    There's nothing wrong with them inherently. People should try making them better rather than just declare as a whole they are bad.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,559
    edited October 2021
    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?

    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?
    A lot of things can be portion frozen (pretty much all rice dishes for example).

    And a lot of things can be frozen that might surprise you.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    Carnyx said:

    What I'm not clear about is the importance of the enzymes digesting the milk sugars: if they haven't done it in the milk, they certainly wont' do it in the drinker's stomach when the stomach acids denature the enzymes and kill their activity.
    If that were a comprehensive description of the activity of enzymes, we wouldn't produce them in our own saliva.
  • kle4 said:

    There's nothing wrong with them inherently. People should try making them better rather than just declare as a whole they are bad.
    The disappointing thing is the consumer is not that interested. M&S had a good range of healthier, and tastier ready meals a couple of years ago, generally available at 3 for £10. Most of that has now disappeared, replaced with stuff less tasty, less nutritious and priced around £4-£4.50 rarely discounted (apart from on day of best before). Not sure if that is down to the Ocado deal, Brexit, global supply chains or consumer taste, probably a mix of all 4.

    Now Sainsbury's imo have the best range of healthy ready meals.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702
    IshmaelZ said:

    I don't think this milk stuff has much relevance to the inhabitants of Planet Sane
    Happily I don't live there. From what I hear it sounds a bit shit.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,559
    edited October 2021

    The other thing is that needs to be re-introduced is cooking in bulk. And using the freezer.

    I make Bolognese and various tomato sauces in bulk (for example), freeze them using a silicon tray (sold for making soap bars) into potion sized "bricks".

    I also cook in bulk and use the dish over several days.

    Both practises get an "ugh" from those who have been trained by the cooking shows that the only edible food is that which has been cooked 10 minutes before.
    Personally I do that using muffin trays.

    Currently have them for stock portions, blackberries and blueberries (for crumbles), toppings and experimenting with spag bol nearly-finished topping.

    The portions then get put in a plastic bag.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,585

    The NHS isn't being kept busy by the incidence of WPW to my knowledge, it's being kept busy by diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, and recently by those who sadly haven't enjoyed robust enough health to recover independently from COVID. Those things most certainly are down to environmental factors, of which diet is a huge part.
    Not all cancer is down to life choices. How much do you estimate is? Its probably lower than you think. Even lung cancer is not 100% down to smoking.

    My leukeamia has no known lifestyle risks - it just happened when two genes stuck together in the wrong place and wrong time. We can do a lot to reduce diseases, but it will never completely vanish from the human existence.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,220
    edited October 2021
    Matt W - "A lot of things can be portion frozen (pretty much all rice dishes for example).

    And a lot of things can be frozen that might surprise you."

    ----------------

    I am not criticising batch cooking, it is a great idea that works for many. Can the people who say all ready meals are bad explain what is bad about the dishes I have linked to? Open to persuasion here but simply proclaiming something does not make it true.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    If that were a comprehensive description of the activity of enzymes, we wouldn't produce them in our own saliva.
    But salivary amylase IS inactivated in the stomach (though lingual lipase isn't, actually, to be fair). And the problems with milk sugars come when the consumers don't produce the necessary enzyme in their onw stomachs. So the enzymes in milk can#'t very well be doing the job.
  • HYUFD said:

    So including don't knows then Yes on 45% ie exactly zero change from 2014, despite Brexit and only committed Yes voters want another indyref2.

    So Boris can easily continue to refuse to grant an indyref2
    What’s your explanation for the 7% pt drop in the No vote?
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,705
    MattW said:

    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?

    Some of this is just snobbishness. What is wrong with these for example? https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/news/latest-news/2021/06-01-21-my-goodness

    How many people cooking for 1 or 2 from scratch would get such a diverse variety of vegetables into their diet?
    A lot of things can be portion frozen (pretty much all rice dishes for example).

    And a lot of things can be frozen that might surprise you.

    Cooking for one is a pain in the but, but it beats the intake of chemicals and additives from prepared meals from supermarkets.
    Cooking can be quick, A decent meal in 20 or 30 minutes. A range of vegetables either steamed, roasted or cooked in a single pan dish add very little time but lots of flavour.
    Lunch today is celeriac and asparagus soup I made yesterday evening between work and going to a yoga class. Some frozen some given away, all good pure fresh ingredients.
    There is no excuse of lack of 'time' for cooking. There is always time.
  • There is a statistical difference between the YouGov opinion polls and the others.

    The difference is that YouGov have Labour 3% lower, and the Greens 3% higher, based on October polls.

    The other pollster which have a significant difference is Redfield & Wilton Strategies which have Labour and the Lib Dems around 2% higher than the others (taking into account YouGov's adjustment).
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,702

    Not all cancer is down to life choices. How much do you estimate is? Its probably lower than you think. Even lung cancer is not 100% down to smoking.

    My leukeamia has no known lifestyle risks - it just happened when two genes stuck together in the wrong place and wrong time. We can do a lot to reduce diseases, but it will never completely vanish from the human existence.
    Some things are down to our own environmental factors, some are down to those of our parents or even grandparents. I believe a vast proportion of all disease is caused this way. Even minor things like problematical skin or a propensity to shortsightedness that 'run in the family'. I don't say that sitting in judgement - I have had various autoimmune conditions in the past.
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