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It’s for my wife (and friend) wanting something before the Suede concert they are heading to.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
I pointed out I knew people more likely to know suitable options than her Mancunian friends0 -
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.0 -
Late to the party, but thanks a lot for the header - I think that's the most entertaining I've ever read on PB - topical and amusing. Nice one.rottenborough said:Thanks Mike. That was a fast turn around!
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Golly, they still going?eek said:
It’s for my wife (and friend) wanting something before the Suede concert they are heading to.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
I pointed out I knew people more likely to know suitable options than her Mancunian friends0 -
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.0 -
We had afternoon tea at Cloud23 a few years ago it was cracking and worth it for the view. A little walk from the city centre but worth it.Cookie said:
I'd go for Cloud 23. On a clear day the views are gorgeous. (It's on the 23rd floor). Took my wife there on our first date. Maybe I have coasted a bit since then, on reflection.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
Can't say for certain what the afternoon teas are like but my oldest daughter's been and approved.1 -
Evening all
Not sure whether I'm "young, progressive and educated" or "old, repressive and ignorant" as someone has put it. I suppose making a ludicrous generalisation is much easier than putting forward an argument - perhaps I'll try it, won't be the first time, probably won't be the last.
Budget Day and the Chancellor continues to show the kind of largesse usually only associated by those seeing an election on the horizon. I realise in these relaxed days of low interest rates and inflation increasing the national debt is nothing worrying about and the continuing recruitment of workers for the Ministry of Debt Management, as witnessed by the figures, must be the explanation as to why unemployment has not reached the levels once predicted.
I suspect when I price up my 2023 trip to Vegas and see the APD surcharge I'll have to warn Mrs Stodge I'll have to have a lot of luck if we're going to eat at Wolfgang Puck (scans well).
Heard a little of the Rachel Reeves response - it's often said Budget Day tells you the degree to which any Chancellor is really after a move next door in Downing Street but it should be Starmer tonight who is a little more concerned. It will do Reeves little harm to be the dutiful and loyal Shadow CoE and while the thread topic is guaranteed to give Conservatives nightmares it's stretching credibility a little at this time.
I could see her as Prime Minister and she has done her prospects no harm at all today.
Plenty more French polling today - Harris Interactive puts Zemmour in front of Le Pen irrespective of the LR candidate but Elabe has (among likely voters) Macron on 23%, Le Pen 19%, Zemmour 15% and Bertrand 13%.
Bertrand does seem the most popular of the LR candidates but as yet he's not got to a position to challenge the front two or three in the first round ballot.
Nice to see the UK Covid dashboard now showing the numbers having heard a third or booster shot (11.7% but based on the inaccurate NIMS numbers). I'll be pilloried by the usual suspects but the case and death figures are again not easy reading even if we are at the top of the wave and starting to crest downward - the "collapse" in number still a few days off it would seem.1 -
Does anyone know the word zaftig?
I just learnt it. I think it's used more in North America than the UK. It means, usually of a woman, plump and voluptuous.
It literally means juicy, from the from Yiddish zaftik, from High German saft for juice (from which we get the word sap)1 -
I've pointed out previously that the vaccination question seems to trigger educated and intelligent people in to fits of panic and hysteria. Surely the fact that some doctors are not accepting the vaccine should cause those who go on and on about 'following the science' to question their own assumptions.pigeon said:Ladies and gentlemen, for your edification, I present the latest entrant in the crowded field for Hypocrite of the Year:
From the Graun, one week ago:
Dr Chaand Nagpaul, the BMA’s council chair, said plan B was devised to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed. “As doctors working on the frontline, we can categorically say that time is now,” he added.
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He added: “It is wilfully negligent of the Westminster government not to be taking any further action to reduce the spread of infection, such as mandatory mask wearing, physical distancing and ventilation requirements in high-risk settings, particularly indoor crowded spaces."
And today:
Dr Chaand Nagpaul, BMA council chair, said: “The BMA fully supports the Covid vaccination rollout and, given the effectiveness of the vaccine, it’s important that every NHS worker is vaccinated, other than those who can’t for medical reasons.
“There is, however, an important distinction between believing every healthcare worker should be vaccinated and advocating for mandatory vaccinations; this comes with its own legal, ethical and practical implications that must be considered."
Summary: enforcement of masks and social distancing for the entire population by legislative diktat, every day until God alone knows when = urgent and necessary, should be done right now. Medical staff having an inoculation once every six months = an unacceptable infringement of personal choice.
Memo to Dr Nagpaul: If we are all to be forced to put up with an endless diet of miserable, destructive rules to please your members, then the least you can all fucking well do in return is co-operate with an initiative to crush this pandemic that is vastly more important and effective than having to go back to wrapping a stupid piece of cloth around your face every time you get out of your seat in a restaurant to take a damn piss, or deciding which five other members of your social circle are going to be invited to your birthday party at said restaurant. Besides which, I think we are all reasonably entitled to expect medical professionals employed by the state to follow good medical science, rather than digging their heels in because of bullshit they read on Facebook about Bill Gates's invisible microchips.
These bloody people.
On a practical level, if you force the doctors and other medical professionals who refuse to take the vaccine out of the NHS, nothing is going to get any better. Things are going to get a whole lot worse for the NHS, because there would be no one to replace them. There is also the problem of the cost of actually paying these people off. Isn't it just easier to make them take tests so they know they don't have Covid, and let them get on with their work?1 -
Rachel Reeves is certainly a competent and centrist alternative to Starmer if he goes. Remember too the last time a Leader of the Opposition was forced out, IDS in 2003, they were also replaced by their Shadow Chancellor.
However even if she does become Labour leader and PM I cannot see her her winning a majority, let alone a landslide, certainly without major gains in Scotland1 -
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.0 -
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.
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People who do such things to public figures are utter scum.TheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other1 -
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Thanks. The issue with that is the regions are not a large selection to run an analysis on.rkrkrk said:
It's density. Sorry for missing that out.Philip_Thompson said:
What regions are you using for that? I find that incredibly hard to believe unless you're using truly absurd regions.rkrkrk said:
The region of the UK with the highest population density is London.Philip_Thompson said:
It's not perfect but it's the best rule of thumb and whatever way you slice it, Denmark has a teensy tiny fraction of England's density.
Covid cases and deaths scaled almost perfectly with density through the pandemic in like for like areas.
It has the second lowest death rate per 100,000 people.
When I do Spearman's rank correlation on regions by population vs regions by deaths-> the coefficient is 0.0833...
I.e. basically no relationship.
And are you doing density or population in your analysis?
Sources are coronavirus.data.gov.uk website (deaths by certificate or within 28 days, has same ranking so doesn't matter) & population density here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/populationestimatesforukenglandandwalesscotlandandnorthernireland
I've taken the data from that link for local authorities, then taken the data from the ONS for Covid19 deaths by local authorities here and done a vlookup for where the Area Code exactly matches on the two sheets to get the deaths and the population density. That data is then ranked.
From that, there's 368 pairs of data. The Spearman's rank correlation coefficient is 0.3099 and a p-value of 6.15184E-10
So that's from my understanding a moderate correlation with a very high probability that the correlation is real.0 -
Whereas you always do, now do one. Back to ignoring your posts.Farooq said:
I sort of knew at the start of your post you'd get around to a "but" in the end. You didn't disappoint.Taz said:
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.0 -
I've always loved the French word rétorsion.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Just seen Reeves' budget response highlight on a C4 Facebook post. Very well pitched.0
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Compare "Schiff" and "Ship".Farooq said:
hmmmm not so simple it seems. Looks like it was "sap" in proto-west-Germanic.Farooq said:
saft / sap, is that part of the p->f Germanic sound shift? That would indicate "sap" has been borrowed from a Latin language later?BlancheLivermore said:Does anyone know the word zaftig?
I just learnt it. I think it's used more in North America than the UK. It means, usually of a woman, plump and voluptuous.
It literally means juicy, from the from Yiddish zaftik, from High German saft for juice (from which we get the word sap)0 -
I don't really see her as leader. However there are people out there that voted for Corbyn, Brown, and no doubt some chumps that voted for both.HYUFD said:Rachel Reeves is certainly a competent and centrist alternative to Starmer if he goes. Remember too the last time a Leader of the Opposition was forced out, IDS in 2003, they were also replaced by their Shadow Chancellor.
However even if she does become Labour leader and PM I cannot see her her winning a majority, let alone a landslide, certainly without major gains in Scotland0 -
Bring it on. These people seem not to realise that we invaded them less than 80 years ago. That they weren't in charge at the time doesn't make it any better.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
We're putting unvaxxed healthcare workers out of their jobs here in New York (and other places in the US) and we're coping. The unvaxxed rate among health care workers in NY State declined by 8 percentage points to just 8% of staff (which skewed mostly towards ancillary workers, not clinical staff) just before the mandate kicked in.IanB2 said:
And we’ve just effectively sent a whole slice of the workforce, on whom we depended, home, so the NHS needs every worker it can get right now.pigeon said:
I don't blame you. I was so bloody pissed off when I read that bollocks from the BMA chair this morning. It is one thing to have valid concerns about how on Earth the system would cope if all the refusers got the chop, but quite another to make excuses for them, shortly after you have had a hissy fit about the Government refusing to force everybody back into face gags and not being allowed to see their own friends and family when they want.glw said:
I wish we could do a Reagan on the anti-vaxxers, vaccine skeptics, and other similiar idiots in the NHS and sack the lot of them.pigeon said:Memo to Dr Nagpaul: If we are all to be forced to put up with an endless diet of miserable, destructive rules to please your members, then the least you can all fucking well do in return is co-operate with an initiative to crush this pandemic that is vastly more important and effective than having to go back to wrapping a stupid piece of cloth around your face every time you get out of your seat in a restaurant to take a damn piss, or deciding which five other members of your social circle are going to be invited to your birthday party at said restaurant. Besides which, I think we are all reasonably entitled to expect medical professionals employed by the state to follow good medical science, rather than digging their heels in because of bullshit they read on Facebook about Bill Gates's invisible microchips.
These bloody people.
Every single member of NHS staff who won't take the vaccine ought ideally to be put in the same category as the refusers in social care and get shoved out the door. Not only are they an avoidable risk to their own patients, but they are actively conspiring to lengthen a pandemic that has placed the whole health and care sector under prolonged, acute stress. If their vaccinated colleagues don't want to strangle them then it would be fascinating to hear why.
The problem is, of course, that the buggers know they have safety in numbers, so nobody dare touch them.0 -
It came to Old English as sæp, from the Proto-Germanic sapam, which was also the source for saft, so I was a bit off saying we got sap from saft; should have said they're related.Farooq said:
saft / sap, is that part of the p->f Germanic sound shift? That would indicate "sap" has been borrowed from a Latin language later?BlancheLivermore said:Does anyone know the word zaftig?
I just learnt it. I think it's used more in North America than the UK. It means, usually of a woman, plump and voluptuous.
It literally means juicy, from the from Yiddish zaftik, from High German saft for juice (from which we get the word sap)
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Whilst what you say on Foundation is true to an extent, I read it for the first time last year and think it holds up pretty well. Not so much on characterisation, for the reasons you give, but I think the story was bound to be like that to some degree given the nature of the story, vignettes within a wider tapestry, more like short stories with the only 'character' really being the the changing galaxy. The later Foundation books are technically better stories in that story structure and character, but I felt less interesting for getting away from that.DavidL said:
I saw the first episode of foundation for free. It did not make me inclined to pay for the rest but it did make me go back to the books. Which, to be honest, was something of a disappointment. Asimov's characters are very much based in the 1950s. There is hardly a significant female character in the first 3 books and the patriarchy is so painfully obvious that even I noticed it. Most of the characters are paste board and gone in a flash. Salvor Hardin is a modest exception but jeez. The scope and vision of the concept is still excellent, bordering on brilliant but the way it is written is frankly a distraction. His Caves of Steel trilogy was much better written.TimT said:Bugger. The end of the world is definitely nigh. I have just read an opinion piece I agreed with without looking at the author. Then I found out it was written by Paul Krugman!!! Arggh!
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/opinion/dune-movie-foundation-series.html
At least it was only tangentially about economics.
Dune, on the other hand, is simply a work of genius. It is a complicated, interconnected and evolving society where shards of humanity have been teased out and perfected at a cost. The characters have flaws and depth. I am really looking forward to the new film as the previous effort was so disappointing.
People love the new Dune film but I don't really get it. Obtuse, slow, monotonously acted, despite epic visuals.
Also there were four Baley/Olivaw books, not three, and I preferred them too.0 -
Prayer of thanks to the Chancellor this Budget evening:
His name is Sunak
Oh, Rishi Sunak
You made me happy (sort of)
This Budget day
Huge public spending
Tax cuts still pending
And you did not take
My higher rate pension tax relief
Away.1 -
That is terrible newsPulpstar said:Christ, my cousin's daughter has just lost her boyfriend in an RTA. She's 18.
Sympathy to all the family
And puts politics into perspective
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That's absolutely horrific. Sympathies.Pulpstar said:Christ, my cousin's daughter has just lost her boyfriend in an RTA. She's 18.
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New York did Brexit as well?rpjs said:
We're putting unvaxxed healthcare workers out of their jobs here in New York (and other places in the US) and we're coping. The unvaxxed rate among health care workers in NY State declined by 8 percentage points to just 8% of staff (which skewed mostly towards ancillary workers, not clinical staff) just before the mandate kicked in.IanB2 said:
And we’ve just effectively sent a whole slice of the workforce, on whom we depended, home, so the NHS needs every worker it can get right now.pigeon said:
I don't blame you. I was so bloody pissed off when I read that bollocks from the BMA chair this morning. It is one thing to have valid concerns about how on Earth the system would cope if all the refusers got the chop, but quite another to make excuses for them, shortly after you have had a hissy fit about the Government refusing to force everybody back into face gags and not being allowed to see their own friends and family when they want.glw said:
I wish we could do a Reagan on the anti-vaxxers, vaccine skeptics, and other similiar idiots in the NHS and sack the lot of them.pigeon said:Memo to Dr Nagpaul: If we are all to be forced to put up with an endless diet of miserable, destructive rules to please your members, then the least you can all fucking well do in return is co-operate with an initiative to crush this pandemic that is vastly more important and effective than having to go back to wrapping a stupid piece of cloth around your face every time you get out of your seat in a restaurant to take a damn piss, or deciding which five other members of your social circle are going to be invited to your birthday party at said restaurant. Besides which, I think we are all reasonably entitled to expect medical professionals employed by the state to follow good medical science, rather than digging their heels in because of bullshit they read on Facebook about Bill Gates's invisible microchips.
These bloody people.
Every single member of NHS staff who won't take the vaccine ought ideally to be put in the same category as the refusers in social care and get shoved out the door. Not only are they an avoidable risk to their own patients, but they are actively conspiring to lengthen a pandemic that has placed the whole health and care sector under prolonged, acute stress. If their vaccinated colleagues don't want to strangle them then it would be fascinating to hear why.
The problem is, of course, that the buggers know they have safety in numbers, so nobody dare touch them.0 -
It’s also a lot safer - less chance of things being spikedTheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.0 -
Other Betty’s are available - Heck, Northallerton has one.turbotubbs said:
Harrogate?eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
Avoid York, last time the Mrs went there a tramp starred through the window at her..0 -
Do you think she shouldn't reconsider calling her opponents "scum"?Farooq said:
I sort of knew at the start of your post you'd get around to a "but" in the end. You didn't disappoint.Taz said:
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.0 -
And tbh plenty of people who she needs to change their vote from the scum to labour too.BlancheLivermore said:
Do you think she shouldn't reconsider calling her opponents "scum"?Farooq said:
I sort of knew at the start of your post you'd get around to a "but" in the end. You didn't disappoint.Taz said:
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.0 -
There's a nightclub boycott tonight I think, to highlight this issue.eek said:
It’s also a lot safer - less chance of things being spikedTheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.0 -
Not sure this is the best time to bring that up.BlancheLivermore said:
Do you think she shouldn't reconsider calling her opponents "scum"?Farooq said:
I sort of knew at the start of your post you'd get around to a "but" in the end. You didn't disappoint.Taz said:
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.
Whoever has been arrested is scum it seems.0 -
There was one in Durham last night which the organiser was on the local news stating it was a success. Quite a few clubs closed in solidarity with them. Although as it was a Tuesday night I don’t really know how busy Durham is that night.paulyork64 said:
There's a nightclub boycott tonight I think, to highlight this issue.eek said:
It’s also a lot safer - less chance of things being spikedTheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.
But if it raises awareness and gets clubs and security staff to take it more seriously then all well and good.0 -
Remember Leon’s Second Golden Rule of Covid: if any state, region, province, or polity ever exhibits a hint of smugness about its handling of Covid, then Covid will inevitably turn on them, and then they don’t feel so smug any morewilliamglenn said:German cases are still rising vertically. It looks like they'll exceed the peak from last winter soon.
I can’t think of a single case where the rule has been truly broken. From Britain to Vietnam, from Florida to Ireland, from Hong Kong to Sweden to Kerala, all the boasters get their asses bitten, in the end. Look at Czechia now, and recall they had a Covid-is-beaten party in Prague
The ONE possible exception is South Korea. Which maintains an enviable record, and has done from the start. But then, they were never smug, they just saw Covid-19 for what it is: a new nasty version of SARS, and they put on their masks, and they got to work. No boasting2 -
Me too. Although my limited knowledge relates mostly to words borrowed from Arabic. There are the obvious ones (alcohol, algebra, alchemy, genie) but lots of less obvious ones (e.g. magazine, tariff, zero, coffee, saffron, chemise)Farooq said:
The reason it's so good is because the word is directly related to the history of etymology, and the discovery that Indic languages and European ones were related. And so English closed the loop by borrowing that word. I do love etymology.BlancheLivermore said:
One of my favourite type of English etymology: our borrowed Indian words.Farooq said:
@BlancheLivermore give us both barrels on the etymology of "pundit" please. I know you canping said:Interesting what wasn’t in the budget.
No wealth taxes and no student loan tinkering. Lots of pundits got this budget very wrong.
The ft implies that SL changes could be announced separately in a few weeks.
We’ll see.
It means "a learned man" from the Hindi word पंडित - payndit, and came to Hindi from Sanskrit. We used it from around 1670 to mean "a learned Hindu", came to mean a more generally learned chap in about 1820.1 -
@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
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I think this is definitely one of the reasons people outside the bigger cities tend to vote Tory these days
Sam Freedman
@Samfr
Fuel duty freezes have cost a cumulative £65 billion in revenue since 2010/11 according to the OBR. Most expensive newspaper campaign in history?
We remember Labour's "fuel escalator".1 -
My granddaughter at Leeds University only goes out with a small trusted group to restaurants, and will not go to clubs or similar student eventspaulyork64 said:
There's a nightclub boycott tonight I think, to highlight this issue.eek said:
It’s also a lot safer - less chance of things being spikedTheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.
This is a serious issue but good to see students taking things into their own hands0 -
I think its pertinence is enhanced.Philip_Thompson said:
Not sure this is the best time to bring that up.BlancheLivermore said:
Do you think she shouldn't reconsider calling her opponents "scum"?Farooq said:
I sort of knew at the start of your post you'd get around to a "but" in the end. You didn't disappoint.Taz said:
No one should be put in that position for entering politics. Our politics is fragmented, polarised and divided. It’s an awful place at timesTheScreamingEagles said:Who would want to go into politics these days?
Police have arrested a man accused of making threats against the Labour deputy leader, Angela Rayner.
Sources close to Rayner, who is away from parliament on bereavement leave, confirmed she was the women concerned after Greater Manchester police announced the arrest.
The Guardian understands Rayner has cancelled her constituency surgeries in recent weeks amid concerns for her safety – linked to a wider increase of abuse and threats, including death threats, against her.
Friends said she had been deeply affected by the abuse, which had been taken particularly hard by her children. One described the deputy leader as “not in a good place” and said she had been unable to make many public appearances because of fears for her safety.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/27/man-held-on-suspicion-of-making-threats-against-angela-rayner?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
At the labour conference she used deliberately inflammatory language to pander to her supporter base, doubled down on it when rightly challenged. It in no way justifies this mans actions but I hope she will reconsider such statements in future.
Whoever has been arrested is scum it seems.
But you're quite right that it's appropriate opprobrium for the disgusting man doing this.0 -
As Mark E. Smith put it in his rather idiosyncratic version of Jerusalem:
I was very let down from the budget
I was expecting a one million quid handout
I was very disappointed
It was the government's fault
It was the fault of the government
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Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.2 -
Sorry I need to stop doing that.eek said:
Other Betty’s are available - Heck, Northallerton has one.turbotubbs said:
Harrogate?eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
Avoid York, last time the Mrs went there a tramp starred through the window at her..0 -
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I get asked a lot about how ‘to live’ with high case rates: my suggestion is to mask properly, stay away from crowds & keep your personal space, be fully vaccinated & test regularly with LFTs & get outside as much as possible (indoors: open windows/check ventilation).
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Or, stay away from children as most of the cases are in the 5-19 age group as it burns through the kids. Most harmlessly.1 -
Yes, all power to their elbow. Hopefully it will drive the change they need.Big_G_NorthWales said:
My granddaughter at Leeds University only goes out with a small trusted group to restaurants, and will not go to clubs or similar student eventspaulyork64 said:
There's a nightclub boycott tonight I think, to highlight this issue.eek said:
It’s also a lot safer - less chance of things being spikedTheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.
This is a serious issue but good to see students taking things into their own hands1 -
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.1 -
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk0 -
OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.0
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Dollar-sized potato cakes with a dollop of creme fraiche and the caviar perched on top.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
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Surely as Rishi is a non alcohol person it might be the other way around?Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
Boris: Ah, alcohol my old friend.
Rishi: I wish this was a Pepsi.0 -
That's got to be a photo op managed by Team Rishi. Not only does he look bright and trim while his boss looks confused (and just look at that shirt/waist line), but we also can't see the box that the CofE is presumably standing on to hide is dinky stature.Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
Clever.0 -
Yeah, we all make space for the genial drunk to sit next to us on the bus...don't we?Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk0 -
I like it on a teaspoonful of really creamy scrambled egg, on melba toast.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
I usually need more than I can afford. I love it when my Russian friend comes over to stay.0 -
Not terribly helpful advice for the likes of me, @Fysics_Teacher, @AramintaMoonbeamQC etc.rottenborough said:Prof. Devi Sridhar
@devisridhar
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22m
I get asked a lot about how ‘to live’ with high case rates: my suggestion is to mask properly, stay away from crowds & keep your personal space, be fully vaccinated & test regularly with LFTs & get outside as much as possible (indoors: open windows/check ventilation).
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Or, stay away from children as most of the cases are in the 5-19 age group as it burns through the kids. Most harmlessly.
But the best way is surely to be vaccinated and get a booster if offered it.1 -
I thought that Rishi was more into Coke?rottenborough said:
Surely as Rishi is a non alcohol person it might be the other way around?Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
Boris: Ah, alcohol my old friend.
Rishi: I wish this was a Pepsi.
Or is that Gove?1 -
Serve on mother-of-pearl spoons and serve the eggs quite cold and neatDecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
Good caviar is heaven. Diluting the taste with chunks of flatbread and salmon and sour cream is hellish and wrong
Ice cold shots of pure vodka are the best accompaniment. Vodka has no flavor. All you get is the caviar
I was taught this by the expert caviarologist at the Belmond Hotel, St Petersburg, so I know it is The Truth
As for quantity, just buy as much as you can comfortably afford. Caviar is like cocaine. People will always want more, once they get the taste2 -
Canopies are very useful in Leeds. Dont want rain diluting your fizz.TheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.2 -
Once again - peak pb.com.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
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It also reiterates that Johnson has a big head, is full of gas, is flopping over at the sides (that's enough - Ed).Stuartinromford said:Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
That's got to be a photo op managed by Team Rishi. Not only does he look bright and trim while his boss looks confused (and just look at that shirt/waist line), but we also can't see the box that the CofE is presumably standing on to hide is dinky stature.Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
Clever.1 -
LOL. The difference in our advice is because you obviously love caviar.Leon said:
Serve on mother-of-pearl spoons and serve the eggs quite cold and neatDecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
Good caviar is heaven. Diluting the taste with chunks of flatbread and salmon and sour cream is hellish and wrong
Ice cold shots of pure vodka are the best accompaniment. Vodka has no flavor. All you get is the caviar
I was taught this by the expert caviarologist at the Belmond Hotel, St Petersburg, so I know it is The Truth
As for quantity, just buy as much as you can comfortably afford. Caviar is like cocaine. People will always want more, once they get the taste
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For all my typos, can I refer you all to my social media team.paulyork64 said:
Canopies are very useful in Leeds. Dont want rain diluting your fizz.TheScreamingEagles said:
It's a lot cheaper than a night out and you get a lot more drinks and food for your money.eek said:
One thing I’ve noticed whenever I’ve been in Leeds recently is groups of women going out in the afternoon rather than evening.TheScreamingEagles said:
A lot of the afternoon teas involve prosecco.IshmaelZ said:
Who tf goes out of their way to have a posh afternoon tea in Manchester? Rich teetotal Lancastrian aunt from whom you hope to inherit?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'd probably recommend the top end hotels, somewhere like The Malmaison, The Midland, The Stock Exchange, Hotel Gotham, The Radisson, Cloud 23 in the Hilton.eek said:@TheScreamingEagles quick utterly off topic question.
Any idea of the best place in Manchester for afternoon tea?
But my first choice would be The Ivy.
Or if you fancy a small taxi journey, The Lowry.
There's usually some good deals out there (especially with shopping trips and pre theatre) that makes it fun.
As a non tea drinker, it's not my thing, but it is a relatively fun day out for some.
The Hilton in Leeds does unlimited canopies and prosecco for like £20 per person.1 -
Yes, it may not be acting though...Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk0 -
https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
Labour lead soon0 -
Except Rishi is teetotal so it is more likely a Boris/CCHQ stunt. Rishi is looking at the camera taking the photo. Is Boris looking at (and raising the glass towards) a different camera, maybe television?Stuartinromford said:
That's got to be a photo op managed by Team Rishi. Not only does he look bright and trim while his boss looks confused (and just look at that shirt/waist line), but we also can't see the box that the CofE is presumably standing on to hide is dinky stature.Northern_Al said:
That rather lends itself to a caption competition.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Boris: What the fuck is that?
Rishi: Just shut the fuck up and drink it. We're being filmed.
Clever.0 -
Emphasis on genial.Mexicanpete said:
Yeah, we all make space for the genial drunk to sit next to us on the bus...don't we?Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk
Otherwise agreed. For a bus journey I’d probably prefer Sunak in the next seat. He’d sit there quietly working then go. Without a word. Also he’s 2 foot 6 so he wouldn’t take up much space
But when I turn on the telly Or fire up the iPad i am always, in some form, seeking entertainment. Drunken Boris provides that
Note that we also forgive drunken people more than we forgive the sober. Keir Starmer is quintessentially sober. So he gets judged as such. Boris can say mad shit and many smile and say ‘well, he’s always half-cut, isn’t he? Who hasn’t been there?’
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Just honouring history - many great leaders frequently three sheets to the wind.Foxy said:
Yes, it may not be acting though...Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk0 -
It was posted on here before the Budget.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
Labour lead soon1 -
Who was the last famously "tired and emotional" / "drunk as a lord, so after a discreet interval they will probably make him one" politician?Foxy said:
Yes, it may not be acting though...Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk
George Brown?
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I take it by way of suppository these days, CBA with the blinis and stuffCookie said:
Once again - peak pb.com.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
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I think it was posted earlier today CHB. Not gone unnoticed by this Tory anyway.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
Labour lead soon0 -
The French government has issued an official press release threatening to cut the UK's electricity supply if we don't give them more fishing licences.
https://twitter.com/CBeaune/status/14534279363721830400 -
So masks are a good thing after all, then?Leon said:
Remember Leon’s Second Golden Rule of Covid: if any state, region, province, or polity ever exhibits a hint of smugness about its handling of Covid, then Covid will inevitably turn on them, and then they don’t feel so smug any morewilliamglenn said:German cases are still rising vertically. It looks like they'll exceed the peak from last winter soon.
I can’t think of a single case where the rule has been truly broken. From Britain to Vietnam, from Florida to Ireland, from Hong Kong to Sweden to Kerala, all the boasters get their asses bitten, in the end. Look at Czechia now, and recall they had a Covid-is-beaten party in Prague
The ONE possible exception is South Korea. Which maintains an enviable record, and has done from the start. But then, they were never smug, they just saw Covid-19 for what it is: a new nasty version of SARS, and they put on their masks, and they got to work. No boasting0 -
Sounds proportionate. That's how you keep the moral high ground.williamglenn said:The French government has issued an official press release threatening to cut the UK's electricity supply if we don't give them more fishing licences.
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As effete as ever, @LeonLeon said:
Serve on mother-of-pearl spoons and serve the eggs quite cold and neatDecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
Good caviar is heaven. Diluting the taste with chunks of flatbread and salmon and sour cream is hellish and wrong
Ice cold shots of pure vodka are the best accompaniment. Vodka has no flavor. All you get is the caviar
I was taught this by the expert caviarologist at the Belmond Hotel, St Petersburg, so I know it is The Truth
As for quantity, just buy as much as you can comfortably afford. Caviar is like cocaine. People will always want more, once they get the taste
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It has been posted on here several times today and is pre budgetCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
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"Note that we also forgive drunken people more than we forgive the sober" is an unforgivable remark. Are you drunk!?Leon said:
Emphasis on genial.Mexicanpete said:
Yeah, we all make space for the genial drunk to sit next to us on the bus...don't we?Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk
Otherwise agreed. For a bus journey I’d probably prefer Sunak in the next seat. He’d sit there quietly working then go. Without a word. Also he’s 2 foot 6 so he wouldn’t take up much space
But when I turn on the telly Or fire up the iPad i am always, in some form, seeking entertainment. Drunken Boris provides that
Note that we also forgive drunken people more than we forgive the sober. Keir Starmer is quintessentially sober. So he gets judged as such. Boris can say mad shit and many smile and say ‘well, he’s always half-cut, isn’t he? Who hasn’t been there?’
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Mike also posted it on Twitter this morning.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It has been posted on here several times today and is pre budgetCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
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Hope you are well.Omnium said:
I think it was posted earlier today CHB. Not gone unnoticed by this Tory anyway.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
Labour lead soon
Keir Starmer is doing a good job.0 -
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https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1453395974794194950
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The one thing we can say that by isolating today he gave Rachel Reeves the opportunity and she took it, as he would not have been nearly as goodCorrectHorseBattery said:
Hope you are well.Omnium said:
I think it was posted earlier today CHB. Not gone unnoticed by this Tory anyway.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
Labour lead soon
Keir Starmer is doing a good job.0 -
How is pointing out that it wasn't ignored, and was posted on here, grasping at straws?CorrectHorseBattery said:Tories grasping at straws, we'd never hear the end of it if it was a 10 point Tory lead
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Well I've been smug about Covid since about March once the vaccine rollout was well underway and deaths were cratering, and since July we've smugly had no Covid restrictions.Leon said:
Remember Leon’s Second Golden Rule of Covid: if any state, region, province, or polity ever exhibits a hint of smugness about its handling of Covid, then Covid will inevitably turn on them, and then they don’t feel so smug any morewilliamglenn said:German cases are still rising vertically. It looks like they'll exceed the peak from last winter soon.
I can’t think of a single case where the rule has been truly broken. From Britain to Vietnam, from Florida to Ireland, from Hong Kong to Sweden to Kerala, all the boasters get their asses bitten, in the end. Look at Czechia now, and recall they had a Covid-is-beaten party in Prague
The ONE possible exception is South Korea. Which maintains an enviable record, and has done from the start. But then, they were never smug, they just saw Covid-19 for what it is: a new nasty version of SARS, and they put on their masks, and they got to work. No boasting
No problems in that. No turning on us yet.
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It was mentioned earlier, it would lead to a hung parliament on the new boundaries but the Tories would still have most seats and could form a minority government if the DUP (or TUV) at least abstained and SF did not take their seatsCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
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He’s just doing his job - sticking up for his members. The issue is the media reporting him as having some more general perspectivepigeon said:Ladies and gentlemen, for your edification, I present the latest entrant in the crowded field for Hypocrite of the Year:
From the Graun, one week ago:
Dr Chaand Nagpaul, the BMA’s council chair, said plan B was devised to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed. “As doctors working on the frontline, we can categorically say that time is now,” he added.
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He added: “It is wilfully negligent of the Westminster government not to be taking any further action to reduce the spread of infection, such as mandatory mask wearing, physical distancing and ventilation requirements in high-risk settings, particularly indoor crowded spaces."
And today:
Dr Chaand Nagpaul, BMA council chair, said: “The BMA fully supports the Covid vaccination rollout and, given the effectiveness of the vaccine, it’s important that every NHS worker is vaccinated, other than those who can’t for medical reasons.
“There is, however, an important distinction between believing every healthcare worker should be vaccinated and advocating for mandatory vaccinations; this comes with its own legal, ethical and practical implications that must be considered."
Summary: enforcement of masks and social distancing for the entire population by legislative diktat, every day until God alone knows when = urgent and necessary, should be done right now. Medical staff having an inoculation once every six months = an unacceptable infringement of personal choice.
Memo to Dr Nagpaul: If we are all to be forced to put up with an endless diet of miserable, destructive rules to please your members, then the least you can all fucking well do in return is co-operate with an initiative to crush this pandemic that is vastly more important and effective than having to go back to wrapping a stupid piece of cloth around your face every time you get out of your seat in a restaurant to take a damn piss, or deciding which five other members of your social circle are going to be invited to your birthday party at said restaurant. Besides which, I think we are all reasonably entitled to expect medical professionals employed by the state to follow good medical science, rather than digging their heels in because of bullshit they read on Facebook about Bill Gates's invisible microchips.
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I do. Adore itTimT said:
LOL. The difference in our advice is because you obviously love caviar.Leon said:
Serve on mother-of-pearl spoons and serve the eggs quite cold and neatDecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
Good caviar is heaven. Diluting the taste with chunks of flatbread and salmon and sour cream is hellish and wrong
Ice cold shots of pure vodka are the best accompaniment. Vodka has no flavor. All you get is the caviar
I was taught this by the expert caviarologist at the Belmond Hotel, St Petersburg, so I know it is The Truth
As for quantity, just buy as much as you can comfortably afford. Caviar is like cocaine. People will always want more, once they get the taste
It’s one of those luxury items which actually makes sense. It is a glorious foodstuff, the little eggs popping with salty zingy taste explosions
I never paid it much attention until I did a trip to Baku (!!) many years ago. And I was told you could buy it on the black market for pennies. So I went to Baku market, literally, and some woman beckoned me down an alley to a secret fridge and she sold me a KILO of the best wild stuff, from the Caspian, for about $5
A kilo of the best stuff now is $3000 or more
So I took it home to the family for Xmas. And we worked our way through it, developing a likening. And by the end we decided that neat and pure was definitely the way.
This was happily confirmed by the Belmond resident caviar expert in St Petersburg in 2018. On its own, if it’s good
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I've been reflecting on the Budget, and have concluded that for the vast majority of the British public it is a complete non-event, with precisely zero ramifications for household budgets at a time of rising costs. By this, I mean that there is very little, if any, tangible impact from the measures announced in the here and now, which is unusual for a Budget. This is not the case for those on the minimum wage or UC, but for everybody else, I think it's "so what?" - particularly for the 'squeezed middle'. Even the alcohol duty changes, which I think are not very significant actually, don't come into effect until 2023. For voters, most of the measures are a bit abstract.
So, the budget is either:
a) clever politics by Rishi - steady as she goes, or
b) a missed opportunity to make his stamp as an interesting and innovative Chancellor.
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If this caviarologist says that is the only way to eat caviar then what else does he actually do?Leon said:
Serve on mother-of-pearl spoons and serve the eggs quite cold and neatDecrepiterJohnL said:OT any caviar experts? How much do you need for canapes for six? And what's the best way to serve? I was thinking Ritz crackers with smoked salmon and caviar on top but noticed James Bond had toast soldiers.
Good caviar is heaven. Diluting the taste with chunks of flatbread and salmon and sour cream is hellish and wrong
Ice cold shots of pure vodka are the best accompaniment. Vodka has no flavor. All you get is the caviar
I was taught this by the expert caviarologist at the Belmond Hotel, St Petersburg, so I know it is The Truth
As for quantity, just buy as much as you can comfortably afford. Caviar is like cocaine. People will always want more, once they get the taste1 -
And when were women permitted to be “generally learned”?BlancheLivermore said:
One of my favourite type of English etymology: our borrowed Indian words.Farooq said:
@BlancheLivermore give us both barrels on the etymology of "pundit" please. I know you canping said:Interesting what wasn’t in the budget.
No wealth taxes and no student loan tinkering. Lots of pundits got this budget very wrong.
The ft implies that SL changes could be announced separately in a few weeks.
We’ll see.
It means "a learned man" from the Hindi word पंडित - payndit, and came to Hindi from Sanskrit. We used it from around 1670 to mean "a learned Hindu", came to mean a more generally learned chap in about 1820.0 -
It's not grasping at straws if you claim/predict it wasn't mentioned and in fact it was. It not being mentioned enough was not the initial claim.CorrectHorseBattery said:Tories grasping at straws, we'd never hear the end of it if it was a 10 point Tory lead
I recall the same claim awhile back about Matt Goodwin not mentioning the Labour lead poll when in fact he had (albeit somewhat sarcastically). That doesn't speak to his general output, but an untrue claim is still an untrue claim, and that's not a Tory/Labour matter.1 -
I have no idea but he has a large bet on a labour lead so maybe trying to keep his spirits upRobD said:
How is pointing out that it wasn't ignored, and was posted on here, grasping at straws?CorrectHorseBattery said:Tories grasping at straws, we'd never hear the end of it if it was a 10 point Tory lead
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No it isn't. There's a list as long as your arm of English law offences to which drunkenness is a defence.Benpointer said:
"Note that we also forgive drunken people more than we forgive the sober" is an unforgivable remark. Are you drunk!?Leon said:
Emphasis on genial.Mexicanpete said:
Yeah, we all make space for the genial drunk to sit next to us on the bus...don't we?Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk
Otherwise agreed. For a bus journey I’d probably prefer Sunak in the next seat. He’d sit there quietly working then go. Without a word. Also he’s 2 foot 6 so he wouldn’t take up much space
But when I turn on the telly Or fire up the iPad i am always, in some form, seeking entertainment. Drunken Boris provides that
Note that we also forgive drunken people more than we forgive the sober. Keir Starmer is quintessentially sober. So he gets judged as such. Boris can say mad shit and many smile and say ‘well, he’s always half-cut, isn’t he? Who hasn’t been there?’
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No way Tories would stay on having lost so many voters, Keir Starmer would be PM and then another electionHYUFD said:
It was mentioned earlier, it would lead to a hung parliament on the new boundaries but the Tories would still have most seats and could form a minority government if the DUP (or TUV) at least abstained and SF did not take their seatsCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1453282468199608327?t=cYIN67QBOp77jPlI_QzqOg
Tories haven't mentioned this, I wonder why?
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Tories are muppets, utterly in denial.
Labour lead nailed on. I put another £500 on this evening.0 -
I shan't sleep a wink till I have heard he's pulled through.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1453395974794194950
Sure you'll all join me in sending Keir our best
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'a sheet in the wind' surely - or 'three sheets' if very pished.kle4 said:
Just honouring history - many great leaders frequently three sheets to the wind.Foxy said:
Yes, it may not be acting though...Leon said:
Tbf he nails the ‘what the fuck is that who cares I’m slightly pissed’ gaze really well. And that is the gaze of the trainee barkeep at the student union bar on day 2 of the job, shortly before being sackedrottenborough said:
Johnson never does detail.BlancheLivermore said:@helenlewis
Tell me you've never worked behind a bar without telling me you've never worked behind a bar.
Even when pulling a pint.
Sunak looks much less believable
I wonder if this is a hidden aspect to Boris’ appeal. He always comes across as someone who has had a couple, and is sort-of trying to hide it, or is just letting rip and doesn’t care
The British do love a genial drunk0
