Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
I know the case numbers don't include Wales but even with this the drop from 49K to 36.5K in a week is huge. I was predicting last week that cases would be dropping. Let's hope it continues!
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
All the more reason to move to Starling or elsewhere who can handle euro transactions without fees.
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
More likely to restrict your flexibility, judging from what I have had from several banks.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
I'd advise a bit of caution - just two days of encouraging figures.
Indeed. I note they don't include Welsh numbers. So maybe it's not comparable?
There were 4,000 last Monday in Wales, so we can reasonably add those on I guess. Would be 41,000 today when benchmarked to include the Welsh. Still a very notable fall.
“Best for Britain” is simply the latest rebranding of the People’s Vote campaign group.
Ah yes the "not that vote, another one" berks.
They also own an APPG ("Gaps in Support"), and now have something called "UK Trade and Business Commission", which is what I think Carol Cadwalladr calls "Shadow Governance" ie you set up a fake regulatory-sounding organisation, and try to get it taken seriously.
As epitomised in recent times by “Independent Sage”
What amazes me is that so many people were talking about 100K cases/day when most cases were in school kids and half term was about to happen. That in itself would see a decline in cases.
"Rolling Stone also reports that at least three rally organizers are cooperating with the House panel probing the riot, and have alleged several members of Congress were “intimately involved” in the plans."
Indeed the fall in deaths is the most surprising, not easy to fake (!) and a lagging indicator. Most likely, that is just noise. But I guess we'll see.
I really think when the story of covid is written they are going to have some serious credibility problems, as are JCVI
Utterly disgraceful that there are still members of the real SAGE also on iSAGE - a disreputable passing off exercise, the very existance of which is a direct accusation that the real SAGE is corrupt - membership of iSAGE should be an immediate sacking offense.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Indeed the fall in deaths is the most surprising, not easy to fake (!) and a lagging indicator. Most likely, that is just noise. But I guess we'll see.
Deaths announced bears almost no resemblence to actual deaths, to the extent that we'd almost certainly all be better off if they stopped publishing it and just gave is death by date on a 5 day lag. Really meaningless number, whether it looks down like to today, or up like last Tuesday (when the published number was pretty much double reality for that day).
I really think when the story of covid is written they are going to have some serious credibility problems, as are JCVI
Utterly disgraceful that there are still members of the real SAGE also on iSAGE - a disreputable passing off exercise, the very existance of which is a direct accusation that the real SAGE is corrupt - membership of iSAGE should be an immediate sacking offense.
Those actually advising the government should have been made subject to the Special Advisor rules, prohibited from making public statements.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Actually it sounds like an interesting idea: it would depend on the curry perhaps, but I don’t see why it is worse than (say) a Gewürztraminer which I have know goes well with some curries.
Indeed the fall in deaths is the most surprising, not easy to fake (!) and a lagging indicator. Most likely, that is just noise. But I guess we'll see.
It's consistent with COVID targetting younger and younger people.
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
Some of us live in areas where water comes out of a tap but it also comes with a foam.
Just think of it as alcohol free beer...
Unfortunately for me alcohol free beer is a no no for me because I'm a devout Muslim because a beer drinking friend of mine came up with analogy for alcohol free beer which I have never been able to forget.
You good muslim also has to watch out for what is 'alcohol free'. Lots of them are less than 0.5%, but are definitely not 0%.
Most of the 0.5% beers are functionally close to zero. It's just that the process they use for making them is not guaranteed to leave them completely alcohol free.
Basically, the way 0.5% beer is made is that they make normal beer. Then they warm it to about 85 degrees centigrade, which is enough to make the alcohol (over a period of time) boil off. But that won't get all the alcohol out. It'll leave 0.1-0.2% in there. In theory there could be as much as 0.5%, but in reality is very rarely anything near that.
With true Zero beers, it's made completely differently. It's a soft drink made to taste somewhat like beer.
I prefer the 0.5% beers. What I'd really like, though, is a 1.5-2% beer. Something which is enough to give you a little bit of an alcohol kick, but not so much that your body isn't able to metabolize it all before the next drink arrives.
Try the stuff they sell at the Sydney Cricket Ground. Disgusting. There was a lager on sale at Chelmsford a few years ago, which was nearly as bad. Even the people who only watch 20/20 complained.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Indeed the fall in deaths is the most surprising, not easy to fake (!) and a lagging indicator. Most likely, that is just noise. But I guess we'll see.
Deaths announced bears almost no resemblence to actual deaths, to the extent that we'd almost certainly all be better off if they stopped publishing it and just gave is death by date on a 5 day lag. Really meaningless number, whether it looks down like to today, or up like last Tuesday (when the published number was pretty much double reality for that day).
New infections and deaths can be withheld as far am I'm concerned. Hospitalisations are what matter. I wonder whether the antivirals that Javid was talking about the other day can be used via home to reduce the need for hospital admissions and thereby reduce stress on NHS?
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
You mean there's something about that in The Curry House Rules... ?
Some of us live in areas where water comes out of a tap but it also comes with a foam.
Just think of it as alcohol free beer...
Unfortunately for me alcohol free beer is a no no for me because I'm a devout Muslim because a beer drinking friend of mine came up with analogy for alcohol free beer which I have never been able to forget.
You good muslim also has to watch out for what is 'alcohol free'. Lots of them are less than 0.5%, but are definitely not 0%.
Most of the 0.5% beers are functionally close to zero. It's just that the process they use for making them is not guaranteed to leave them completely alcohol free.
Basically, the way 0.5% beer is made is that they make normal beer. Then they warm it to about 85 degrees centigrade, which is enough to make the alcohol (over a period of time) boil off. But that won't get all the alcohol out. It'll leave 0.1-0.2% in there. In theory there could be as much as 0.5%, but in reality is very rarely anything near that.
With true Zero beers, it's made completely differently. It's a soft drink made to taste somewhat like beer.
I prefer the 0.5% beers. What I'd really like, though, is a 1.5-2% beer. Something which is enough to give you a little bit of an alcohol kick, but not so much that your body isn't able to metabolize it all before the next drink arrives.
Try the stuff they sell at the Sydney Cricket Ground. Disgusting. There was a lager on sale at Chelmsford a few years ago, which was nearly as bad. Even the people who only watch 20/20 complained.
Yes, but don't Ozzies call lager, "beer". Which says it all.
And the popular ones are like carbonated kangaroo pee.
Yes, plus I doubt there are many secondary school kids who have yet to be exposed to it.
Neither of our two have ever tested positive - quite a few in their year have though.
It ripped through my daughter's Y8 class about a month ago. 15 out of 30 off with it. The other 15 (including my daughter) I suspect were immune from having had it previously. Given that my daughter also then spent 2 weeks shortly afterwards in a house where all 4 other members of the household had it without getting it herself suggests she was immune. Her school produces stats of the number of kids in each class off with Covid each week. Last week's numbers had 2 in each of both Y7 and Y8 (180 kids in each year). Given where they were I don't think Covid has got anywhere to go in that school. Anecdotally I have heard this replicated in so many schools.
Indeed the fall in deaths is the most surprising, not easy to fake (!) and a lagging indicator. Most likely, that is just noise. But I guess we'll see.
Deaths announced bears almost no resemblence to actual deaths, to the extent that we'd almost certainly all be better off if they stopped publishing it and just gave is death by date on a 5 day lag. Really meaningless number, whether it looks down like to today, or up like last Tuesday (when the published number was pretty much double reality for that day).
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
I sometimes think I would have been better off becoming a Maths teacher; no equipment to book, much lower chance of electrocuting my self in the line of duty, and fewer classes (as I would see each one for about twice as long as I get with my Physics classes).
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Yes, plus I doubt there are many secondary school kids who have yet to be exposed to it.
Neither of our two have ever tested positive - quite a few in their year have though.
It ripped through my daughter's Y8 class about a month ago. 15 out of 30 off with it. The other 15 (including my daughter) I suspect were immune from having had it previously. Given that my daughter also then spent 2 weeks shortly afterwards in a house where all 4 other members of the household had it without getting it herself suggests she was immune. Her school produces stats of the number of kids in each class off with Covid each week. Last week's numbers had 2 in each of both Y7 and Y8 (180 kids in each year). Given where they were I don't think Covid has got anywhere to go in that school. Anecdotally I have heard this replicated in so many schools.
Do we know the proportion of recent new infections which are in the under 19s?
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
It is starting to look like an epic miscalculation, I have to admit. I have a lot of sympathy with Rachel Reeves, as she was pushed into a corner by the disgraceful Marr yesterday – she was clearly against Plan B and should have just stuck to her excellent original line that "we have make Plan A work, and will hold the government to account on it".
Sir Keir has no such excuse. I guess we'll see but it's looking like a potentially massive misstep from him.
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
I sometimes think I would have been better off becoming a Maths teacher; no equipment to book, much lower chance of electrocuting my self in the line of duty, and fewer classes (as I would see each one for about twice as long as I get with my Physics classes).
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
I might try that. I am having a curry tonight and my daughter has left a can of cider in the fridge. Look what you have started.
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
I sometimes think I would have been better off becoming a Maths teacher; no equipment to book, much lower chance of electrocuting my self in the line of duty, and fewer classes (as I would see each one for about twice as long as I get with my Physics classes).
Be glad you weren't at the Amersham Grammar school while I was there. For 15 years the fuses in the department were a 1cm thick piece of copper.
Only when a new Physics teacher arrived and complained were things changed. And only then because computers were placed on the same circuit.
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
This is something I've done for my firm.
It's going to be a real arse for a lot of people.
1) Retirees in the EU
2) People who make transfers to people in the EU (regardless of whether they are a UK citizen or not) and vice versa.
3) People making regular payments to EU domiciled companies.
4) People making occasional payments/deposits to/frpm EU domiciled companies.
The fees alone are going to be a pain as is proving source of funds.
But there's going to be a lot of paperwork and costs for no benefits.
Whatever you try and do, don't try and circumvent the rules, that will lead to a CIFAS marker which means all your UK accounts get shut and you cannot open another one for at least six years.
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Unique then
Better than wine with curry. I like ginger beer.
Actually I have been known to have a ginger beer with a curry
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
Yes it is. Try to time it to coincide with building fear and noise so as not to appear too negative to the public and then weeks later when gov brings it in they say aha we argued for this weeks ago but the government didn't listen. Such transparent nonsense. They did the same thing last year if you recall.
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Our R is probably already below most of our neighbours.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
I might try that. I am having a curry tonight and my daughter has left a can of cider in the fridge. Look what you have started.
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Well that's certainly a (conspiracy?) theory I have heard expressed by a few people. There could be some truth in it, dunno. One would hope it's not true, but it's not much of a stretch to think it could be.
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
I sometimes think I would have been better off becoming a Maths teacher; no equipment to book, much lower chance of electrocuting my self in the line of duty, and fewer classes (as I would see each one for about twice as long as I get with my Physics classes).
An marking homework is much faster I would think.
Probably not: Maths teachers have to check the working. I tend not to bother as long as the answer is right.
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
Zero VAT on black pudding is what we need.
And the prat Schapps to stop buggering about with HS2, and just get on with it.
I just checked and I seem to have been hoarding jars of curry and Indian sauces. Rogan Josh with pork and cider tonight, as La Truss might say.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
I might try that. I am having a curry tonight and my daughter has left a can of cider in the fridge. Look what you have started.
I'm surrounded by barbarians!
I feel your pain.
There's people on here who put p*n*a*p*e on their pizza.
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
It would also boost sales of Buxton mineral water (based in the Tory marginal of High Peak) and Highland Spring domestically
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
I might try that. I am having a curry tonight and my daughter has left a can of cider in the fridge. Look what you have started.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
I might try that. I am having a curry tonight and my daughter has left a can of cider in the fridge. Look what you have started.
I'm surrounded by barbarians!
I feel your pain.
There's people on here who put p*n*a*p*e on their pizza.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
Unions came out for plan B, so Labour had no choice at all. They're an unsteerable rabble.
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Unique then
Better than wine with curry. I like ginger beer.
Actually I have been known to have a ginger beer with a curry
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
It would also boost sales of Buxton mineral water (based in the Tory marginal of High Peak) and Highland Spring domestically
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
This is something I've done for my firm.
It's going to be a real arse for a lot of people.
1) Retirees in the EU
2) People who make transfers to people in the EU (regardless of whether they are a UK citizen or not) and vice versa.
3) People making regular payments to EU domiciled companies.
4) People making occasional payments/deposits to/frpm EU domiciled companies.
The fees alone are going to be a pain as is proving source of funds.
But there's going to be a lot of paperwork and costs for no benefits.
Whatever you try and do, don't try and circumvent the rules, that will lead to a CIFAS marker which means all your UK accounts get shut and you cannot open another one for at least six years.
I guessed it wasn't good news, but I thought it best not to antagonise the Brexit/Boris rampers.
That could be fun for Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland bank account holders or is there an exemption?
Those figures are going to reverse as we see reductions to approx. 5,000 cases per week by Christmas, as per the London School of Hygiene and Tropical medicine
I just have an instinctive feeling that we are heading down towards much reduced infections
I would just add that Rishi's budget on Wednesday, followed by COP26 is going to dominate the headlines for the next 2 weeks and by mid to late November I expect we will all be a lot happier about covid, though I doubt some on here know the word 'happy'
Almost on topic.
I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking.
Well I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not a drinker, but do enjoy a good cup of coffee
I need a clear head to analyse my opinions but age tends to get in the way at times
Me neither these days, although I like a beer with a curry occasionally. On topic, I don't drink bottled waters at all either, from wherever they may be sourced. Dwr Cymru from the tap for me everyday of the week.
I will have a cider with a curry occasionally but I absolutely agree with your comments on bottled water v tap water
Cider. With Curry. Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Why
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
You are beyond the reach of civilisation. Cider. With curry!
Unique then
Better than wine with curry. I like ginger beer.
Actually I have been known to have a ginger beer with a curry
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
The same people would have you believe that it is obvious what the optimal start date for a lockdown is.
Some of us live in areas where water comes out of a tap but it also comes with a foam.
Just think of it as alcohol free beer...
Unfortunately for me alcohol free beer is a no no for me because I'm a devout Muslim because a beer drinking friend of mine came up with analogy for alcohol free beer which I have never been able to forget.
You good muslim also has to watch out for what is 'alcohol free'. Lots of them are less than 0.5%, but are definitely not 0%.
Most of the 0.5% beers are functionally close to zero. It's just that the process they use for making them is not guaranteed to leave them completely alcohol free.
Basically, the way 0.5% beer is made is that they make normal beer. Then they warm it to about 85 degrees centigrade, which is enough to make the alcohol (over a period of time) boil off. But that won't get all the alcohol out. It'll leave 0.1-0.2% in there. In theory there could be as much as 0.5%, but in reality is very rarely anything near that.
With true Zero beers, it's made completely differently. It's a soft drink made to taste somewhat like beer.
I prefer the 0.5% beers. What I'd really like, though, is a 1.5-2% beer. Something which is enough to give you a little bit of an alcohol kick, but not so much that your body isn't able to metabolize it all before the next drink arrives.
The latter is called "small beer" and they're becoming quite popular. Not my favourite but I can understand the market for them.
Yes, plus I doubt there are many secondary school kids who have yet to be exposed to it.
Neither of our two have ever tested positive - quite a few in their year have though.
It ripped through my daughter's Y8 class about a month ago. 15 out of 30 off with it. The other 15 (including my daughter) I suspect were immune from having had it previously. Given that my daughter also then spent 2 weeks shortly afterwards in a house where all 4 other members of the household had it without getting it herself suggests she was immune. Her school produces stats of the number of kids in each class off with Covid each week. Last week's numbers had 2 in each of both Y7 and Y8 (180 kids in each year). Given where they were I don't think Covid has got anywhere to go in that school. Anecdotally I have heard this replicated in so many schools.
Several Twitter anecdotes - children with COVID antibodies "without ever having had COVID" and others testing positive on LFT while being completely asymptomatic.
FPT: TimT said: » show previous quotes I'd argue having a good teacher is way more important than having a teacher who is the best expert in the subject.
Chemistry is physics is not at all misleading, although it might be better expressed as 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics, and biology is the emergent properties of chemistry, and behaviour is the emergent properties of biology' etc...
My bit: Trying to predict the effects of molecules based purely on the laws of Physics has not had a good track record. For biology that is even more of an issue (if it weren’t we wouldn’t have to muck around with all that clinical testing of drugs; we would be able to calculate which would work and why).
Who says it's all about prediction? You can't predict any chaotic or complex adaptive system, even entirely physical ones. Witness the three body problem. Are you telling me that physical systems are not physics, because physics cannot be used to predict their properties and behaviours?
So what does your observation have to do with the validity of the statement that 'chemistry is the emergent properties of physics'? Nothing. Because science is only partly about prediction. It is mostly about explaining. And the laws of chemistry can be explained in terms of the laws of physics. And biology can be explain in terms of molecular chemistry.
Trying to explain the laws of Chemistry using the laws of Physics requires the type of Physics I didn’t encounter until my second year at university. More to the point it required the big element you have left out of this: Maths, and Maths at a higher level than even those doing Further Maths A-level would be expected to get to before their last year at school (if then).
You can hand wave it of course, but we do that at the moment; I’ve just been teaching pV = NkT and explaining how it is the same equation as the pV = nRT they learned in Chemistry. I have also found that I seem to be better at teaching the idea of the mole better than many Chemistry teachers.
I think my basic point is that if you want teachers of “Science” rather than teachers of Physics, Chemistry, and Biology then you have to accept that a lot more physicists are going to decide that they don’t want anything to do with it and so Physics is going to be taught by people who, if you are lucky, have an A-level in it, and more likely just a GCSE in double award science. Not a recipe for inspiring the next generation of physicists.
Sticking my neck out, I'd say that having more and better maths teachers is perhaps of even greater importance.
I sometimes think I would have been better off becoming a Maths teacher; no equipment to book, much lower chance of electrocuting my self in the line of duty, and fewer classes (as I would see each one for about twice as long as I get with my Physics classes).
Be glad you weren't at the Amersham Grammar school while I was there. For 15 years the fuses in the department were a 1cm thick piece of copper.
Only when a new Physics teacher arrived and complained were things changed. And only then because computers were placed on the same circuit.
Dr Challoner’s? I applied for a job there back in the nineties. Sounds like I had a lucky escape.
I feel for you. With This government it's difficult to tell what's a spoof and what isn't.
I switched on Woman's hour this morning which was discussing climate change and steps we could take to deal with it. One of the listeners texted;
"I'm prepared to do anything required but I'm being frustrated at every turn. We wanted to fit solar panels but couldn't find a firm with an audit trail which showed slave labour hadn't been used in the production process"
Some of us live in areas where water comes out of a tap but it also comes with a foam.
Just think of it as alcohol free beer...
Unfortunately for me alcohol free beer is a no no for me because I'm a devout Muslim because a beer drinking friend of mine came up with analogy for alcohol free beer which I have never been able to forget.
You good muslim also has to watch out for what is 'alcohol free'. Lots of them are less than 0.5%, but are definitely not 0%.
Most of the 0.5% beers are functionally close to zero. It's just that the process they use for making them is not guaranteed to leave them completely alcohol free.
Basically, the way 0.5% beer is made is that they make normal beer. Then they warm it to about 85 degrees centigrade, which is enough to make the alcohol (over a period of time) boil off. But that won't get all the alcohol out. It'll leave 0.1-0.2% in there. In theory there could be as much as 0.5%, but in reality is very rarely anything near that.
With true Zero beers, it's made completely differently. It's a soft drink made to taste somewhat like beer.
I prefer the 0.5% beers. What I'd really like, though, is a 1.5-2% beer. Something which is enough to give you a little bit of an alcohol kick, but not so much that your body isn't able to metabolize it all before the next drink arrives.
The latter is called "small beer" and they're becoming quite popular. Not my favourite but I can understand the market for them.
So you just have to drink more it it?
Hasn't "small beer" been the Brit substitute for dodgy water for 600-800 years?
Anyone wondering about current swing voter perception of Johnson and (especially) Starmer is should listen to Times Red Box Podcast; 19 October edition "October 2021 Focus Group".
@bigjohnowls will like it. It is brutal for Starmer. This being months after he hired Mattison as well to improve his image.
(If anyone listens to it would you report back on here and tag me in please.)
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
The same people would have you believe that it is obvious what the optimal start date for a lockdown is.
The same people who demanded a firebreak this time last year. Then implemented one in Wales, which resulted in them having identical results to England on a 2 week delay.
Some of us live in areas where water comes out of a tap but it also comes with a foam.
Just think of it as alcohol free beer...
Unfortunately for me alcohol free beer is a no no for me because I'm a devout Muslim because a beer drinking friend of mine came up with analogy for alcohol free beer which I have never been able to forget.
You good muslim also has to watch out for what is 'alcohol free'. Lots of them are less than 0.5%, but are definitely not 0%.
Most of the 0.5% beers are functionally close to zero. It's just that the process they use for making them is not guaranteed to leave them completely alcohol free.
Basically, the way 0.5% beer is made is that they make normal beer. Then they warm it to about 85 degrees centigrade, which is enough to make the alcohol (over a period of time) boil off. But that won't get all the alcohol out. It'll leave 0.1-0.2% in there. In theory there could be as much as 0.5%, but in reality is very rarely anything near that.
With true Zero beers, it's made completely differently. It's a soft drink made to taste somewhat like beer.
I prefer the 0.5% beers. What I'd really like, though, is a 1.5-2% beer. Something which is enough to give you a little bit of an alcohol kick, but not so much that your body isn't able to metabolize it all before the next drink arrives.
The latter is called "small beer" and they're becoming quite popular. Not my favourite but I can understand the market for them.
So you just have to drink more it it?
During the 1980s I'd regularly watch 8 pints a night Brains SA drinkers require circa 14/15 pints of Welsh Bitter to reach their desired effect if we wound up in Allied Breweries pubs, so I'd guess yes.
I have to say sadly the lack of mineral water probably isn't going to have a big effect on the Red Wall vote. A tax on whippets and flat caps is what you need.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
It would also boost sales of Buxton mineral water (based in the Tory marginal of High Peak) and Highland Spring domestically
At last a day where Brexit hasn't been bad news for me. I don't drink mineral water and wasn't planning on importing radioactive material. This Brexit stuff is not looking so bad today.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
Unions came out for plan B, so Labour had no choice at all. They're an unsteerable rabble.
If that's true, then it sounds like Labour are actually quite steerable (by the unions)
England figures at 39 down to 33. Hospitals to rise for another 10 days or so then that should be the end of the current storm in a teacup. Impressive, and scary, how such a sense of momentum and doom was generated from a situation so much better than what was projected at the time of last changing regulations.
Yes, I think this is the key point (and unaffected by recent numbers) – how on Earth did we get ourselves to the brink of wearing 'Plan B' when Plan A had yielded better numbers than even the very best-case estimate from Sage!?
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
The lockdown fascists knew that they had one last chance to keep everyone locked up forever because falling cases without any NPIs destroys their case. What they wanted was for lockdown to be introduced last week, hence the massive campaign around Plan B and general doom mongering. That way their measures would be credited for the coming fall in cases despite it being more likely that we've hit close to herd immunity for delta with our current levels of indoor socialising.
Well that's certainly a (conspiracy?) theory I have heard expressed by a few people. There could be some truth in it, dunno. One would hope it's not true, but it's not much of a stretch to think it could be.
I just don't trust anyone calling for a lockdown at all. Anyone doing it hasn't been properly looking at the data. Lockdown is a real last resort tactic for displacing infections into the future if we think there will be better lifesaving treatment in the future. That's not on the cards and we have got very good vaccines available to everyone already. The case for lockdown went away when the vaccines arrived and they proved to be excellent.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
The same people would have you believe that it is obvious what the optimal start date for a lockdown is.
As soon as possible, as hard as possible, for as long as possible.
Labour calling for Plan B really was excellent timing. They clearly have got no one reading the runes, it's all just reactive to twitter hashtags and trending topics.
Unions came out for plan B, so Labour had no choice at all. They're an unsteerable rabble.
If that's true, then it sounds like Labour are actually quite steerable (by the unions)
I was posting from the admittedly silly presumption that it should be Sir Keir trying to steer the ship.
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With Curry.
Cider with curry.
I have to say, that confirms everything about you I have hitherto only suspected.
Meanwhile in other news NatWest have just emailed me to tell me that from December 31st "Our current accounts are designed to be used in the UK, so we're changing our terms to reflect the effect of the UK leaving the EU". So some jolly good Brexit bonuses on the way, particularly when I am in the EU, no?... or am I reading this all wrong?
38 new deaths - down from 45 last Monday
I rarely have curry and but when I do I quite like a cider
Cider. With curry!
"Rolling Stone also reports that at least three rally organizers are cooperating with the House panel probing the riot, and have alleged several members of Congress were “intimately involved” in the plans."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-gosar-tricked-jan-6-planners-with-blanket-pardon-promise-says-report
Does anyone have sprogs at Uni? What are you seeing for student rents in 22/23?
NEW: Keir Starmer has called on the government to tell people to work from home again
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1452555191409168384?s=20
I blame the government's frankly hopeless comms – they should have been on top of this before the usual-suspect lockdownists were given sufficient oxygen.
[shudders]
And the popular ones are like carbonated kangaroo pee.
/totally objective.
There might be a suggestion this southerner is a little out of touch possibly.
It is starting to look like an epic miscalculation, I have to admit. I have a lot of sympathy with Rachel Reeves, as she was pushed into a corner by the disgraceful Marr yesterday – she was clearly against Plan B and should have just stuck to her excellent original line that "we have make Plan A work, and will hold the government to account on it".
Sir Keir has no such excuse. I guess we'll see but it's looking like a potentially massive misstep from him.
Only when a new Physics teacher arrived and complained were things changed. And only then because computers were placed on the same circuit.
It's going to be a real arse for a lot of people.
1) Retirees in the EU
2) People who make transfers to people in the EU (regardless of whether they are a UK citizen or not) and vice versa.
3) People making regular payments to EU domiciled companies.
4) People making occasional payments/deposits to/frpm EU domiciled companies.
The fees alone are going to be a pain as is proving source of funds.
But there's going to be a lot of paperwork and costs for no benefits.
Whatever you try and do, don't try and circumvent the rules, that will lead to a CIFAS marker which means all your UK accounts get shut and you cannot open another one for at least six years.
And the prat Schapps to stop buggering about with HS2, and just get on with it.
I just checked and I seem to have been hoarding jars of curry and Indian sauces. Rogan Josh with pork and cider tonight, as La Truss might say.
There's people on here who put p*n*a*p*e on their pizza.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/importing-relevant-nuclear-materials-from-the-eu-licensing-requirements
Nuclear weapon hobbyists are going to be screwed.
That could be fun for Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland bank account holders or is there an exemption?
On the subject of fuses:
I switched on Woman's hour this morning which was discussing climate change and steps we could take to deal with it. One of the listeners texted;
"I'm prepared to do anything required but I'm being frustrated at every turn. We wanted to fit solar panels but couldn't find a firm with an audit trail which showed slave labour hadn't been used in the production process"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0010wy5
Bye-bye Evian.
Three decent days of admissions data dropped as well - certainly better than the nasty looking trend at the end of last week.
https://twitter.com/BristOliver/status/1452653712720158721?s=20
@bigjohnowls will like it. It is brutal for Starmer. This being months after he hired Mattison as well to improve his image.
(If anyone listens to it would you report back on here and tag me in please.)
And 167 years today since the Charge of the Light Brigade.
Shame.
EDIT: Superb England fall though.