Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Sajid Javid will be delighted at the decline in Covid cases today, after warning at his press conference last week that cases could well reach 100,000 a day. I guess he was scaremongering as well, along with iSage, lockdown advocates, and Starmer.
Of course he was. He was setting a deliberately high bar (which he knew would likely never be approached) for the introduction of restrictions as a means of being able to resist pressure for introducing any restrictions.
Well, we shall have to see what happens as November drags on and the lockdown screaming from all the usual suspects keeps getting louder. But if Javid does succeed in checkmating the ISAGE tendency then you can slash his odds for the Tory succession.
Keita being stretchered off. Hope he's OK and not badly hurt. VAR very justified there to give the red card.
I’m not a fan of the severity of an injury affecting whether it is a red or yellow card. Sometimes injuries are unlucky. But that was shocking from Pogba. If I were OGS I’d quit tonight, live on tv. Leicester showed what could happen, putting four past them. The only reason this won’t be embarrassing is if Liverpool settle.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
Let's see what this week and beyond brings, we have had fluctuations before with figures both up and down, we need more data to see if we are heading in a positive direction or not.
Some people on here months ago said we 'peaked' and that was proven not to be the case. I don't think we know anything concrete yet.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Varun Chakravarthy might disagree.
And we haven’t even had Verstappen’s latest crash yet.
Keita being stretchered off. Hope he's OK and not badly hurt. VAR very justified there to give the red card.
I’m not a fan of the severity of an injury affecting whether it is a red or yellow card. Sometimes injuries are unlucky. But that was shocking from Pogba. If I were OGS I’d quit tonight, live on tv. Leicester showed what could happen, putting four past them. The only reason this won’t be embarrassing is if Liverpool settle.
As a United supporter Ole resigning tonight is the right thing to do
Not because of one bad result but it has been coming for a while
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Virat Kholi deserves a mention in the having-a-bad-day award.
Keita being stretchered off. Hope he's OK and not badly hurt. VAR very justified there to give the red card.
I’m not a fan of the severity of an injury affecting whether it is a red or yellow card. Sometimes injuries are unlucky. But that was shocking from Pogba. If I were OGS I’d quit tonight, live on tv. Leicester showed what could happen, putting four past them. The only reason this won’t be embarrassing is if Liverpool settle.
Goal difference could be important at the end of this season. I'd love to see two more goals to make this the record victory in this fixture and boost our goal difference further. Already though this will have helped.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
The only person having a worse day than OGS is Devi Sridhar.
Virat Kholi deserves a mention in the having-a-bad-day award.
Deathly silence in the media about today's Covid numbers. Doesn't really fit very well with all their headlines from this morning. Guardian appear to have even taken the extreme step of dropping their Covid tracker from their front page.
Let's see what this week and beyond brings, we have had fluctuations before with figures both up and down, we need more data to see if we are heading in a positive direction or not.
Some people on here months ago said we 'peaked' and that was proven not to be the case. I don't think we know anything concrete yet.
Of course not, but the media have never been shy of jumping on one day's "on the high side" numbers when it suits them.
Some interesting posts by Scott_xP on the previous thread. Looks like the Truss's trade deals - Japan, NZ, Aus - are unravelling fast. I thought she'd be the most likely to succeed Boris, but at this rate she'll soon be a Tory pariah - the woman who ruined Brexit.
Never believe anything Scott n paste posts, especially if the link is to.the Guardian, the Daily Mail or Twitter.
Summary: the case spike is real, but most of it is caused by obsessive testing of near-invulnerable schoolchildren. Deaths are almost stable, and to the extent that there's any discernible rising trend it is amongst the over-75s (i.e. almost certainly very old people with multiple co-morbidities, as identified in the recently reported Italian stats that had a mean age for deaths amongst the vaccinated of 85, many of whom probably died with rather than of Covid and were on borrowed time anyway.)
These are the numbers that are causing various scientists to demand that we start the collapse back into yet another lockdown now. Because you know full bloody well that WFH and masks won't be enough for them (the BMA has already started howling for the re-imposition of social distancing IIRC,) and once they get what they want they'll be demanding the Rule of Six and the shutdown of the hospitality sector within the next fortnight.
I don't doubt that the hospitals are in real difficulty but they'll be considerably worse off if the Government is bankrupted and can no longer pay for medicines or nurses' wages. Shutting down for months and borrowing another £300bn isn't an option. The Government is right to prioritise the economy at this time.
Erdogan has declared the Ambassadors from ten countries persona non grata as their countries have criticised Turkey for imprisoning a human rights activist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465
Worth noting that the UK is *not* on the list, although the US, Canada, France and Germany are. Whether that should make us proud or sad is another matter altogether.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
Wasn't the first story shown to be wrong/exaggerated after the police toxicology reports showed no evidence of drugging?
I doubt if anybody noticed, but a couple of days ago on here I did tip Pakistan at 7/1 to win the tournament, and betted accordingly. They'll be a lot shorter than that after today.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
I doubt if anybody noticed, but a couple of days ago on here I did tip Pakistan at 7/1 to win the tournament, and betted accordingly. They'll be a lot shorter than that after today.
There should have been more added minutes than that just for the injury, but I guess the ref felt sorry for United and didn't see a point in dragging this on any longer.
Man Utd 0 - 5 Liverpool. What a result! Will it be Ole's last?
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
Wasn't the first story shown to be wrong/exaggerated after the police toxicology reports showed no evidence of drugging?
I saw statistics for the US, that showed that there was a ratio of about 10,000-to-1 of people who thought they'd been drugged with Rohypnol (but whose toxicology screens came up clean), and those people who had actually been drugged with it. I suspect the numbers will be the same for the UK.
Looking at Wikipedia it seems the record for largest victory in this fixture is Liverpool 7 - 1 Newton Heath back in the 19th century.
Could we come close to that today?
Every season I pray that Ipswich’s unwanted 9-0 record is superseded. Won’t happen today but one can only hope.
(what really pisses me off about it is that we beat Man U 6-0 in March 1980 and missed three penalties while doing it. But no one remembers that…)
I remember well Ipswich beating newly promoted West.Brom 7-0 in an autumn evening game at Portman Road in 1976. We did win 4.0 later that season at the Hawthorns. But 7-0 ...
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Most schools are on half term next week. So it really can’t be that. A few like @OldKingCole ’s grandson/daughter may have a two week half term, but most won’t.
Erdogan has declared the Ambassadors from ten countries persona non grata as their countries have criticised Turkey for imprisoning a human rights activist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465
Worth noting that the UK is *not* on the list, although the US, Canada, France and Germany are. Whether that should make us proud or sad is another matter altogether.
Ideally, and I do say ideally, we shouldn't have any dealings with the governments labelled purple on this map:
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Well, I obviously hope you're right that the Government holds its nerve (albeit that, even if it does, progress could yet be undone by a really terrible flu season.)
I'm certainly not as sanguine as others that a move to Plan B would cause no real damage. One reads that bookings for hotels and restaurants for the Christmas season are already much slower than usual. If any restrictions come back then I predict that many, perhaps most, of the population will roll its eyes, say 'here we go again', and assume that Christmas is going to be cancelled, with dire consequences.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
There should have been more added minutes than that just for the injury, but I guess the ref felt sorry for United and didn't see a point in dragging this on any longer.
Man Utd 0 - 5 Liverpool. What a result! Will it be Ole's last?
Who was it who suggested backing Pakistan to win the World Cup at 7/1? That’s looking an awesome bet right about now.
Yes, me. I also put a bit on Babar Azam at 9/1 to be top tournament run scorer. That's also looking better after today. I reckon he's the best in the world at the moment - even better than Kohli.
My bet on United winning 4-2 is looking... well... on life support.
To be fair, you're a third of the way there. 😂😂😂
Perhaps... I don't think I'm seeing that money again. Think of the things I could have done with that tenner instead of wasting it on OGS's ability to organise a midfield.
Like contribute to the fund for OGS to fail to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
But don't worry, he's at the wheel.
Oh I'm not worried. Please don't think for a moment I'm a Man U fan.
hmmm, I can still cash out for half my stake... this isn't dead and buried just yet
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The third story also says that British grandmothers are only heating their homes when their grandchildren visit.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Most schools are on half term next week. So it really can’t be that. A few like @OldKingCole ’s grandson/daughter may have a two week half term, but most won’t.
Even better news.
Of course, the reality is that such a large proportion of children have had Covid now, that schools should cease to be a major transmission vector going forward. If the remaining kids get vaccinated, and us middle aged and oldies get our boosters, we should be down to very low levels of Covid incidence sooner rather than later.
Let's not forget that cases can fall pretty quickly.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The third story also says that British grandmothers are only heating their homes when their grandchildren visit.
They’re still in the full ‘lover scorned’ stage, aren’t they?
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Well, I obviously hope you're right that the Government holds its nerve (albeit that, even if it does, progress could yet be undone by a really terrible flu season.)
I'm certainly not as sanguine as others that a move to Plan B would cause no real damage. One reads that bookings for hotels and restaurants for the Christmas season are already much slower than usual. If any restrictions come back then I predict that many, perhaps most, of the population will roll its eyes, say 'here we go again', and assume that Christmas is going to be cancelled, with dire consequences.
My understanding is that the cities are heaving at the weekend. People may not *book* Christmas events (for fear of them being cancelled), but if they still go out, then the damage to the economy is likely to be negligble.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
Re the needle version of spiking I think the evidence is a bit thin so far. It has all the hallmarks of a foaf type story. Not saying it hasn’t happened.
My bet on United winning 4-2 is looking... well... on life support.
To be fair, you're a third of the way there. 😂😂😂
Perhaps... I don't think I'm seeing that money again. Think of the things I could have done with that tenner instead of wasting it on OGS's ability to organise a midfield.
Like contribute to the fund for OGS to fail to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
But don't worry, he's at the wheel.
Oh I'm not worried. Please don't think for a moment I'm a Man U fan.
hmmm, I can still cash out for half my stake... this isn't dead and buried just yet
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep flatline
Just think if you’d cashed out before posting….
I never cash out. Much prefer to go down in a blaze of g... well, just a blaze in this case.
I'm available for all football betting tips, very reasonable rates, call 1-800-LOSENOW
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
Re the needle version of spiking I think the evidence is a bit thin so far. It has all the hallmarks of a foaf type story. Not saying it hasn’t happened.
Usually what happens is there is one actual case, and then lots of people say "you know... I think that happened to me... Because the other week I woke up with this awful headache, and I was like... how did I get here?"
And then before you know it, people are estimating that something incredibly rare, is commonplace.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Well, I obviously hope you're right that the Government holds its nerve (albeit that, even if it does, progress could yet be undone by a really terrible flu season.)
I'm certainly not as sanguine as others that a move to Plan B would cause no real damage. One reads that bookings for hotels and restaurants for the Christmas season are already much slower than usual. If any restrictions come back then I predict that many, perhaps most, of the population will roll its eyes, say 'here we go again', and assume that Christmas is going to be cancelled, with dire consequences.
My understanding is that the cities are heaving at the weekend. People may not *book* Christmas events (for fear of them being cancelled), but if they still go out, then the damage to the economy is likely to be negligble.
We went out for Sunday roast today at a local pub/restaurant and enquired about Christmas dinner. They said they've already sold out.
On the subject of Rohypnol, there was once a denizen of this site who used to boast of getting on long haul flights, dropping a couple with a glass of wine, and only waking up at the other end.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The third story also says that British grandmothers are only heating their homes when their grandchildren visit.
Let’s be honest they are not going to say the U.K. is a success because they then have to explain why they are still so restricted.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
I thought the police has decided that the girls in question hadn’t *actually* been drugged?
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The third story also says that British grandmothers are only heating their homes when their grandchildren visit.
Let’s be honest they are not going to say the U.K. is a success because they then have to explain why they are still so restricted.
Germany's a bit of a patchwork, isn't it? The States individually set restrictions, so some have very few restrictions while others still have mask mandates.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
There is a protest going on this Wednesday night across a lot of University cities in the UK. The plan is to boycott all clubs that night with further action planned going forward until the clubs do something to improve security for women. It is centred on Nottingham but Edinburgh, Sheffield and Exeter are also involved along with other cities. One of the things they want - quite rightly - is that if anyone is caught trying to spike drinks they are held by security and the police called. Given spiking is a serious crime one would think this would be happening anyway but apparently a lot of clubs are worried about getting into trouble with the licencing authorities and so just throw the scumbags out rather than getting the police involved. So of course they can just move on elsewhere and try again.
My daughter is at Nottingham and works in one of the local bars/cafes and she says the students are really worried about this fairly new development of injecting. There have been 12 injection cases reported in the last 2 weeks and 44 spiking cases in total since the start of term.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
I thought the police has decided that the girls in question hadn’t *actually* been drugged?
Depending on the drug, it may simply have been metabolised/excreted by the time of the test.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
I'm very worried that the politicians will bottle it over the next few days. The lockdown forever people know that this is their last chance to force permanent NPIs as a lot of Europe seems to have done. The noise is going to get a lot higher this week and the government is going to have to ignore them.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
I thought the police has decided that the girls in question hadn’t *actually* been drugged?
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
There is a protest going on this Wednesday night across a lot of University cities in the UK. The plan is to boycott all clubs that night with further action planned going forward until the clubs do something to improve security for women. It is centred on Nottingham but Edinburgh, Sheffield and Exeter are also involved along with other cities. One of the things they want - quite rightly - is that if anyone is caught trying to spike drinks they are held by security and the police called. Given spiking is a serious crime one would think this would be happening anyway but apparently a lot of clubs are worried about getting into trouble with the licencing authorities and so just throw the scumbags out rather than getting the police involved. So of course they can just move on elsewhere and try again.
My daughter is at Nottingham and works in one of the local bars/cafes and she says the students are really worried about this fairly new development of injecting. There have been 12 injection cases reported in the last 2 weeks and 44 spiking cases in total since the start of term.
My granddaughter is seriously worried as are her fellow students
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
I thought the police has decided that the girls in question hadn’t *actually* been drugged?
I honestly don't trust the police at all right now and wouldn't blame women for not believing anything the police are saying. It's clear that police forces around the country simply don't take women's safety seriously.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
In a restaurant with 200 other diners?
3 or 4 and not threatened by spiked drinks
Ah, staying in. Sorry for thinking 'going out' meant to a public venue.
On the subject of Rohypnol, there was once a denizen of this site who used to boast of getting on long haul flights, dropping a couple with a glass of wine, and only waking up at the other end.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
In a restaurant with 200 other diners?
3 or 4 and not threatened by spiked drinks
Ah, staying in. Sorry for thinking 'going out' meant to a public venue.
I think you are missing the point
My granddaughter is going with a few trusted fellow students and sitting at a table in a restaurant
On the subject of Rohypnol, there was once a denizen of this site who used to boast of getting on long haul flights, dropping a couple with a glass of wine, and only waking up at the other end.
Does a call flight involve the mile high club?
You know, I'm a member of the half mile high club.
It's like the mile high club, but with half the number of people involved.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
I'm very worried that the politicians will bottle it over the next few days. The lockdown forever people know that this is their last chance to force permanent NPIs as a lot of Europe seems to have done. The noise is going to get a lot higher this week and the government is going to have to ignore them.
I think the big fall in cases (assuming sustained, at least in the short term and no reason to think it won’t be) has come in time. Combined with the big numbers on booster vaccinations and I think (hope?) we will be safe. I think it is very important how anti-restriction some of the key players are compared to last year (Sunak won’t countenance more money and clearly Javid is much more inclined against than Hancock - Gove appears to be out of the picture) and less likely Johnson will be swayed.
I'm a Unionist who votes for the secessionist Green Party in Scotland, because I can see that voting for them has a positive effect on Green policies, and I know I can still vote for the Union in any referendum.
Great news on the Covid numbers: hopefully this is more than just a half term and reversing of SW overcount issue.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
I'm very worried that the politicians will bottle it over the next few days. The lockdown forever people know that this is their last chance to force permanent NPIs as a lot of Europe seems to have done. The noise is going to get a lot higher this week and the government is going to have to ignore them.
I think the big fall in cases (assuming sustained, at least in the short term and no reason to think it won’t be) has come in time. Combined with the big numbers on booster vaccinations and I think (hope?) we will be safe. I think it is very important how anti-restriction some of the key players are compared to last year (Sunak won’t countenance more money and clearly Javid is much more inclined against than Hancock - Gove appears to be out of the picture) and less likely Johnson will be swayed.
If anything the problem is that the pressure on the NHS is clearly immense - but it really is debateable that current levels of Covid (as opposed to the consequences of the last 18 months) have much to do with it. But it might be convenient for the Govt to use Covid as an excuse and a few restrictions as a pointless sop to the critics.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
In a restaurant with 200 other diners?
3 or 4 and not threatened by spiked drinks
Ah, staying in. Sorry for thinking 'going out' meant to a public venue.
I think you are missing the point
My granddaughter is going with a few trusted fellow students and sitting at a table in a restaurant
They are boycotting clubs and large gatherings
And they are scared
Sorry. Right. With you now. Keeping a safe distance from anyone who might be a threat to their safety.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
The third story also says that British grandmothers are only heating their homes when their grandchildren visit.
Let’s be honest they are not going to say the U.K. is a success because they then have to explain why they are still so restricted.
Germany's a bit of a patchwork, isn't it? The States individually set restrictions, so some have very few restrictions while others still have mask mandates.
It is. Went to Germany for business recently. First of all, the entry info on the German Govt website is confusing. Not entirely clear if you need a test if you are double vaccinated (you don't). Then you have the state rules so mine (Hamburg) were sending e-mails about why hadn't I actually had a test and then called me even though I was there for one night and was already back in the UK.
The two lead stories in Der Spiegel are both about the UK. One about the supposed epidemic of girls being drugged in clubs "since Boris Johnson's 'Freedom Day'" and one about how there's a shortage of bus drivers because they are being attracted by higher salaries driving lorries. They seem somewhat obsessed.
From speaking to my female friends and colleagues there is a really big worry about going out late. More than normal, however I don't think this is isolated to the UK. It's a trend I think every country is facing because of social media poisoning the minds of young people.
My granddaughter phoned from Leeds University last Thursday and said the students were so worried they are boycotting large social events and going out for a meal with a few trusted students
In a restaurant with 200 other diners?
3 or 4 and not threatened by spiked drinks
Ah, staying in. Sorry for thinking 'going out' meant to a public venue.
I think you are missing the point
My granddaughter is going with a few trusted fellow students and sitting at a table in a restaurant
They are boycotting clubs and large gatherings
And they are scared
Sorry. Right. With you now. Keeping a safe distance from anyone who might be a threat to their safety.
I cannot underplay how scared these students are and being in small groups of friends boycotting clubs and large gatherings is likely for the foreseeable future
Erdogan has declared the Ambassadors from ten countries persona non grata as their countries have criticised Turkey for imprisoning a human rights activist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465
Worth noting that the UK is *not* on the list, although the US, Canada, France and Germany are. Whether that should make us proud or sad is another matter altogether.
Sad that we are now down among the despots, not much further to fall.
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Should be an easy win for the chasing team.
However, have to say, this is such a great day. United getting absolutely pulverised. The only sadness will be that Ole has to go post this.
Ole lost the supporters
Covidton window in action here.
Stunningly beautiful stadium, a real feat of modern architecture.
Shame about the pitch which is so slow.
Some people on here months ago said we 'peaked' and that was proven not to be the case. I don't think we know anything concrete yet.
And we haven’t even had Verstappen’s latest crash yet.
Not because of one bad result but it has been coming for a while
Definite signs of a drop in R, now
Edit 31 off 30 with 10 wickets in hand. If they lose from here…
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12441108/nottingham-forest-0-4-fulham-aleksandar-mitrovic-double-sends-cottagers-second-in-championship
Your graphs and data crunching have been invaluable.
These are the numbers that are causing various scientists to demand that we start the collapse back into yet another lockdown now. Because you know full bloody well that WFH and masks won't be enough for them (the BMA has already started howling for the re-imposition of social distancing IIRC,) and once they get what they want they'll be demanding the Rule of Six and the shutdown of the hospitality sector within the next fortnight.
I don't doubt that the hospitals are in real difficulty but they'll be considerably worse off if the Government is bankrupted and can no longer pay for medicines or nurses' wages. Shutting down for months and borrowing another £300bn isn't an option. The Government is right to prioritise the economy at this time.
Erdogan has declared the Ambassadors from ten countries persona non grata as their countries have criticised Turkey for imprisoning a human rights activist: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465
Worth noting that the UK is *not* on the list, although the US, Canada, France and Germany are. Whether that should make us proud or sad is another matter altogether.
Now, let's get on with getting people boosters (my wife and I are hoping to get ours today), and making sure that there are no need for restrictions.
(Of course, the government is usually well behind reality*, and will implement restrictions at exactly the moment it is obvious that cases are already heading downwards.)
* See India only going on the red list after cases had already started dropping
Man Utd 0 - 5 Liverpool. What a result! Will it be Ole's last?
Even worse would be autoposting at the start of the next thread, to grab 1st every time....
https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fiw&year=2021
I'm certainly not as sanguine as others that a move to Plan B would cause no real damage. One reads that bookings for hotels and restaurants for the Christmas season are already much slower than usual. If any restrictions come back then I predict that many, perhaps most, of the population will roll its eyes, say 'here we go again', and assume that Christmas is going to be cancelled, with dire consequences.
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I really hope for everyone this is the decline we all seek
If Boris and HMG have called this right then a large number of bodies and commentators will be eating humble pie
Useless nonentity SKS called for Plan B to be enacted yesterday.
The man with the anti Midas touch.
Of course, the reality is that such a large proportion of children have had Covid now, that schools should cease to be a major transmission vector going forward. If the remaining kids get vaccinated, and us middle aged and oldies get our boosters, we should be down to very low levels of Covid incidence sooner rather than later.
Let's not forget that cases can fall pretty quickly.
At least Ole after losing to both Leicester and Liverpool must have got through their rough patch in the fixture list.
*checks fixture list* Spurs, Man City, Watford, Chelsea, Arsenal
Poor old Ole, what a shame.
Of course today’s calls were purely political - call for “plan B” whilst barely expanding on what measures he thought should be introduced.
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And then before you know it, people are estimating that something incredibly rare, is commonplace.
My daughter is at Nottingham and works in one of the local bars/cafes and she says the students are really worried about this fairly new development of injecting. There have been 12 injection cases reported in the last 2 weeks and 44 spiking cases in total since the start of term.
My granddaughter is going with a few trusted fellow students and sitting at a table in a restaurant
They are boycotting clubs and large gatherings
And they are scared
It's like the mile high club, but with half the number of people involved.