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If it hadn’t been for the fight against COVID the above changed perceptions in this Ipsos MORI polling would be quite worrying for ministers. For since the baseline, the last general election in December 2019 there has been one overwhelming priority for the government and that has been the impact of coronavirus.
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Hurrah for Ipsos MORI.1
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First when adjusted for false positives.TheScreamingEagles said:First.
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Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...3 -
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Max I think what you’re missing, is the lack of office has also meant the end of office politics. While I have once had someone scream down the phone at me that I’m a “fucking c**t” on a recorded phone line, generally most people are fairly cordial on email, IM and the phone. Even the most obnoxious knobheads struggle to get their sarcastic disdain across when it’s not person to person. Dunno what end of banking you’re in but the dodgier / corrupt practices are also far harder to do in this brave new world, which is a big plus in my book.
For the office politics reason alone, I’d be perfectly happy never to go in again. Though there are of course many other reasons not to. That said, I’m not remotely ambitious anymore. I just wanna cruise it for 5-10 years. Do my job competently and professionally, engage cordially with the people I need to get things done and have time for the other things in life. And I long ago stopped using work as a crutch for a social life. For the reasons you describe, it’s far better to be friends with people who don’t even understand your job.3 -
If I am reading this right, on almost every issue the optimists were disappointed and the pessimists pleasantly surprised. Nothing is ever as good or as bad as you expect it to be.2
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Ah, the recurrent myth.ydoethur said:
First when adjusted for false positives.TheScreamingEagles said:First.
@TheScreamingEagles is as genuine as anyone here (low bar, I know).0 -
OT -- the Racing Post (from June) on how football came from Scotland.
The debt England and all other football nations owe Scotland for developing game
Why Football’s Coming Home would be better suited to Scottish terraces
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The Scottish game was so evidently superior to the English game that when clubs in England turned professional they sought players in Scotland. In the first season of the Football League – 1888-89 – Preston won the double. Unbeaten throughout the season they became known as the Invincibles. Eight of the 11 regulars were Scots.
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What that says to me is people are more confident of their views on hypothetical's than they are at weighing up what they think of real life0
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It would be very interesting if you could go back in time and do the same thing for past governments. I strongly suspect none has ever outperformed expectations.0
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Also for the EU question the two questions are different, which probably explains the huge difference. In 2019 it seems they were asked if it was likely that the government would take the country out of the EU, in 2021 it was about whether they had done a good or bad job of it.0
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Apologies I meant to star out more expletives in that last post than I did. I blame the wine and the distraction of the skateboarding.0
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I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/0 -
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The WHO talking about their generation.RobD said:
Didn't they also want the UK to stop after vaccinating the elderly?rottenborough said:Allie Hodgkins-Brown
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They can't explain.geoffw said:
The WHO talking about their generation.RobD said:
Didn't they also want the UK to stop after vaccinating the elderly?rottenborough said:Allie Hodgkins-Brown
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I think it depends on the site. This particular site was obviously not very suitable for putting up turbines as the ground turned out to be like a Swiss cheese, and they ended up using thousands of tons of concrete and grout. I've not run the numbers, but knowing that sort of terrain it's certainly not inplausible.Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/1 -
Yes, it made no difference. The vaccines have been purchased, they will get used.RobD said:
Didn't they also want the UK to stop after vaccinating the elderly?rottenborough said:Allie Hodgkins-Brown
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400 years vs 7-9 months is not plausible. That requires hundreds of times the concrete of an average turbine.theProle said:
I think it depends on the site. This particular site was obviously not very suitable for putting up turbines as the ground turned out to be like a Swiss cheese, and they ended up using thousands of tons of concrete and grout. I've not run the numbers, but knowing that sort of terrain it's certainly not inplausible.Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/
In some it is quicker still. This calculation made it 47 days:
https://www.windpowerengineering.com/wind-turbine-carbon-payback-times-shorter-than-expected-finds-new-study/1 -
Old tin-streaming or gruffy ground?theProle said:
I think it depends on the site. This particular site was obviously not very suitable for putting up turbines as the ground turned out to be like a Swiss cheese, and they ended up using thousands of tons of concrete and grout. I've not run the numbers, but knowing that sort of terrain it's certainly not inplausible.Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/0 -
More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html1 -
Hasn't the WHO actually got half a point for once? The pandemic is over in a UK context - virtually no one is dieing. Even if we get an autumn wave, it's only really going to be cases, not admissions or deaths (we've just demonstrated that with wave 3).MaxPB said:
Yes, it made no difference. The vaccines have been purchased, they will get used.RobD said:
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How many qualified signatories this time?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
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is this the same people who confidently predicted there would be 100,000 cases by now?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html1 -
I appreciate that manufacturing is hard, and manufacturing of biological agents doubly so. But it’s quite a disappointment that we’re still talking about vaccination supplies as a zero sum game. All this funny money, trillions of it. And we’re still sat here weighing up the lives of a 50 year old African and an 80 year Westerner.rottenborough said:Allie Hodgkins-Brown
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Tin, lead and copper workings I think - it's an area riddled with them.Carnyx said:
Old tin-streaming or gruffy ground?theProle said:
I think it depends on the site. This particular site was obviously not very suitable for putting up turbines as the ground turned out to be like a Swiss cheese, and they ended up using thousands of tons of concrete and grout. I've not run the numbers, but knowing that sort of terrain it's certainly not inplausible.Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/1 -
dummm....dummmm....dumm...dummm...BigRich said:
is this the same people who confidently predicted there would be 100,000 cases by now?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html
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BigRich said:
is this the same people who confidently predicted there would be 100,000 cases by now?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html
Yep.
"Lead author and Independent SAGE member Professor Christina Pagel"
iSAGE can sure move quickly on to new terrain when one of their predictions or prescriptions implodes without pausing for breath.2 -
They are an utter joke.rottenborough said:BigRich said:
is this the same people who confidently predicted there would be 100,000 cases by now?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html
Yep.
"Lead author and Independent SAGE member Professor Christina Pagel"
iSAGE can sure move quickly on to new terrain when one of their predictions or prescriptions implodes without pausing for breath.2 -
Got a geologist mate who does this for a living. Assess sites for turbines.Foxy said:
400 years vs 7-9 months is not plausible. That requires hundreds of times the concrete of an average turbine.theProle said:
I think it depends on the site. This particular site was obviously not very suitable for putting up turbines as the ground turned out to be like a Swiss cheese, and they ended up using thousands of tons of concrete and grout. I've not run the numbers, but knowing that sort of terrain it's certainly not inplausible.Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/
In some it is quicker still. This calculation made it 47 days:
https://www.windpowerengineering.com/wind-turbine-carbon-payback-times-shorter-than-expected-finds-new-study/
Clearly this site shouldn't have been chosen. Will question him tomorrow.0 -
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells has become Angry of Ivory Towers.FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html0 -
Well, the whole point of the story is that it was an exceptional case...Foxy said:
I think that figure for the carbon cost of a wind turbine is way off. The New Scientist reckons on 7-9 months. Unless your windfarm uses a 1000 times more concrete than average, the figures are wrong.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg24332461-400-what-is-the-carbon-payback-period-for-a-wind-turbine/0 -
Lots of people, none of who would describe model outputs as confident predictions. And the government.BigRich said:
is this the same people who confidently predicted there would be 100,000 cases by now?FrancisUrquhart said:More letter writing to the Lancet...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9861827/Group-scientists-criticise-No10-unacceptable-delay-vaccinating-children-against-Covid.html0 -
Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.
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Tomorrow’s announcement today:
A number of key destinations as well as international travel hubs will be removed from the red list – India, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE. India’s placement on the red list was the subject of substantial controversy after MPs accused Boris Johnson of delaying its inclusion in the spring as cases rapidly rose and the new Delta variant emerged.
Mexico, Georgia, Réunion and Mayotte are to be added to the red list. More countries will also be added to the green list where travellers can go regardless of vaccine status. New green list countries are Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Romania and Norway. All changes come into effect at 4am on Sunday 8 August in England.
Government at least has had the atlas out and finally worked out the difference between Reunion and France.0 -
That statement is inaccurate. The green list is a list of countries where travellers can return from without quarantine. New Zealand is on the green list, good luck going there.IanB2 said:Tomorrow’s announcement today:
A number of key destinations as well as international travel hubs will be removed from the red list – India, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE. India’s placement on the red list was the subject of substantial controversy after MPs accused Boris Johnson of delaying its inclusion in the spring as cases rapidly rose and the new Delta variant emerged.
Mexico, Georgia, Réunion and Mayotte are to be added to the red list. More countries will also be added to the green list where travellers can go regardless of vaccine status. New green list countries are Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Romania and Norway. All changes come into effect at 4am on Sunday 8 August in England.0 -
The great replacement theory....Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.0 -
All nations have political problems, and I'm not about the predict the collapse of the USA, but their mainstream politics seems pretty f*cked up thesedays.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.0 -
Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html0 -
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html2 -
Isn't office politics kinda fun? Its a bit ironic this site wants them gonemoonshine said:FPT
Max I think what you’re missing, is the lack of office has also meant the end of office politics. While I have once had someone scream down the phone at me that I’m a “fucking c**t” on a recorded phone line, generally most people are fairly cordial on email, IM and the phone. Even the most obnoxious knobheads struggle to get their sarcastic disdain across when it’s not person to person. Dunno what end of banking you’re in but the dodgier / corrupt practices are also far harder to do in this brave new world, which is a big plus in my book.
For the office politics reason alone, I’d be perfectly happy never to go in again. Though there are of course many other reasons not to. That said, I’m not remotely ambitious anymore. I just wanna cruise it for 5-10 years. Do my job competently and professionally, engage cordially with the people I need to get things done and have time for the other things in life. And I long ago stopped using work as a crutch for a social life. For the reasons you describe, it’s far better to be friends with people who don’t even understand your job.0 -
Very good post actually.moonshine said:Apologies I meant to star out more expletives in that last post than I did. I blame the wine and the distraction of the skateboarding.
WFH suits many but some find it a drag. It all depends on what sort of person you are and what your job is.2 -
Republicans have replaced their brains with sawdust.FrancisUrquhart said:
The great replacement theory....Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.1 -
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.0 -
Cummings is making himself unemployable. Sad.state_go_away said:
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html0 -
making......i think more accurately "made".ExiledInScotland said:
Cummings is making himself unemployable. Sad.state_go_away said:
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html
Who is going to trust him with anything?0 -
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
Please show us an EU country anywhere near us in the medal tableStuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
😊😊😊0 -
It also has a ring of truth.state_go_away said:
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html
I can't say I'm a fan of either side in the Carrie/Dom war, but on balance I'd rather Dom had won this one. Carries enthusiasm for turning the Tories into the greens will do a lot more damage to the country than Dom having bust ups with Sir Humphrey.2 -
Finally got around to reading my copy of Philip Matyszak's Forgotten Peoples of the Ancient World. Highly recommended. Not indepth at all, but intriguing potted histories of 5-10 pages of many vaguely recalled historical peoples, and the snippets that have filtered through to the modern day in things as small as names and references.0
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The thing is, I don't think DC cares. Let's face it, he's rich enough that he doesn't actually need to work again, and the idea of being a new aristocrat, gentleman-scholar probably appeals to his worldview.FrancisUrquhart said:
making......i think more accurately "made".ExiledInScotland said:
Cummings is making himself unemployable. Sad.state_go_away said:
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html
Who is going to trust him with anything?
But his fury with the system in general and Johnson in particular is something to behold. Bottom line is that he got played something rotten, didn't he?0 -
Maybe we could level the playing field by calculating the numbers of medals/golds per entrant? That's surely a fairer metric.StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
Need to crack on with it. Cases and deaths are rising.
Need to vaccinate 12 to 17 by end August. Then third doses for everyone by end Dec.0 -
What about the Welsh, northern Irish and Scots ? You just dig the hole a little deeper every time you post on this.StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
Feel sorry for decent conservatives. Who the heck do they vote for if they are small state, secular, live and let live types?kinabalu said:
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.3 -
It demonstrates Boris's incredible knack of making people believe what he, Boris, wants them to believe about himself. Boris is the ultimate establishment figure, and he's never going to exile himself from that because of all the money and comfort it will ultimately bring him. But he clearly persuaded Don he was a fellow drain-the-swamp revolutionary. Dom fell for it hook, line and sinker.Stuartinromford said:
The thing is, I don't think DC cares. Let's face it, he's rich enough that he doesn't actually need to work again, and the idea of being a new aristocrat, gentleman-scholar probably appeals to his worldview.FrancisUrquhart said:
making......i think more accurately "made".ExiledInScotland said:
Cummings is making himself unemployable. Sad.state_go_away said:
I think that reflects badly on Cummings. Whether in half jest or seriousness it is not the done thing to blurt out personal confidences like thatFrancisUrquhart said:Dominic Cummings has claimed that Boris Johnson said his partner Carrie was driving him 'crackers' and suggested finding her 'a job with lots of foreign travel'.
The Prime Minister's former chief adviser also said that Mr Johnson offered him a peerage when he left No 10.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9862213/Dominic-Cummings-claims-Boris-wanted-Carrie-job-lots-foreign-travel.html
Who is going to trust him with anything?
But his fury with the system in general and Johnson in particular is something to behold. Bottom line is that he got played something rotten, didn't he?3 -
I can understand why the Law Society might be concerned with a member who publishes a blog post saying they want to find out who an opponent is and where they live, and they have friends who are capable of giving them a visit.Malmesbury said:
What is interesting is the way that various organisations have engaged in a ruthless hunt for bloggers in their ranks and silenced them.StuartDickson said:
My favourite is the one who claims to be a high-powered lawyer, but spends every waking hour on this blog and is unaware that some of his posts break the SRA Code of Conduct for Solicitors, RELs and RFLs and the SRA Code of Conduct for Firms.kjh said:
Snap. I'm retired and spend a fraction of the time of others and still spend too much time here, as my wife tells me. There are several who tell us they have full time jobs who appear here full time. Confused.StuartDickson said:
What confuses me is all the folk around here who claim to have high-powered jobs, but spend all day on an obscure blog. I think most of you are actually sitting in stained string vests, surrounded by pizza boxes and still living off the Bank of Mum and Dad.IshmaelZ said:
"Teachers are the only profession I know where hard work is almost a fetish" - try solicitors or accountants, both obsessed with chargeable hours and presenteeism.ydoethur said:
Difficult to compare with other countries because teacher systems tend to be quite idiosyncratic. So for example in France it is expected a large number of graduates go into teaching, are assigned to a school, do it for 2-3 years and then do something else. But in the USA, where many state systems would be roughly comparable, around 8% a year leave teaching whereas a ‘natural’ rate would be about 3%. That’s a bit lower than ours but it’s not ridiculously different.Foxy said:
Do other countries have such ferocious attrition of teachers? Or is it a British problem? Apart from the staffing issues it seems very wasteful.ydoethur said:
So we have @Nigelb with 100% out, me with 67% out, and you with 33% out.OldKingCole said:
12.6C here. At least it's sunny, and I think the forecast is optimistic after the weekend.IanB2 said:All sub 15C 0700 temps this week, after a long run of warm mornings up to 21C. Have we seen the best of the summer already?
So possibly Good Morning is appropriate.
And Ydoethur, two (so far) teachers in my family plan to continue to do so, although another has left the classroom to become an Ed Psych. Currently just finished, satisfactorily, the first year.
We need somebody with 0% here to complete the set.
Incidentally, I am seriously pissed off with Essex after yesterday. How on earth did you win from the position five overs out?
Or is it like the loss of Foundation Doctors a symptom of much deeper malaise within the system?
https://www.epi.org/publication/u-s-schools-struggle-to-hire-and-retain-teachers-the-second-report-in-the-perfect-storm-in-the-teacher-labor-market-series/
There are reasons for it. First of all, it’s bloody hard work, and not jus pt because of the nature of the beast. Teachers are the only profession I know where hard work is almost a fetish, so you will (true story) hear a primary school teacher boast that she takes her marking everywhere, even to her daughter’s swimming lessons. Such an attitude does bring pressure on the others and to those who don’t know how to find their own pace and stick to it, can be fatal.
There is also far too much pointless meddling by non-experts in media and the government which makes it very difficult to do effectively. Spielman is the epitome of this with her comical ineptitude designed to generate click bait in the Mail, but it affects most of the DfE. Woodhead was of course another example. It’s rather demoralising to be told you’re useless and lazy by functionally illiterate lowlifes who work 37 hour weeks in cosy offices when working 60 hour weeks under tough conditions.
And, of course, a lot go into teaching with high ideals and/or the expectation of short hours and long holidays and find the reality so different they just can’t take it. Woodhead, again, being an example, although he was forced out of teaching for other reasons.
But I think ultimately teaching in the British way is just very hard to do. To encourage discussion, thought, creativity and do it among 30 people a significant minority of whom don’t want to be there and can actually be violent is very, very tough. To do it on average 4.6 times a day forty weeks a year is even harder.
At least I have an excuse. I have ridiculously long holidays, an easy time at work and I am not the chief income earner (hurrah for feminism!!)
Incidentally, “presenteeism” is the pest of our age: lots of people holding positions just for the sake of it but being horrifically poor at their actual jobs. Eg The Clown.
His mum serves him bowls of Heinz tomato soup to keep his pecker up.
Nightjack was an interesting case - but others have reported concerted attempts to shut them down. Often by rewriting Professional Standards to make any kind of reporting/blogging an offence....0 -
They can vote for the US Libertarian party which even in 2020 got 1.8 million votes.dixiedean said:
Feel sorry for decent conservatives. Who the heck do they vote for if they are small state, secular, live and let live types?kinabalu said:
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.
In 2016 it did even better and its candidate Gary Johnson came third with 4 million votes and 3% of the popular vote.
However Libertarianism is not really conservativism but a mixture of small state economics from the right and social liberalism from the left1 -
I apply the Duck Test to anything branded as “British”. Amazing how often it turns out to be nothing of the sort.occasionalranter said:
What about the Welsh, northern Irish and Scots ? You just dig the hole a little deeper every time you post on this.StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
Or per capita, or as a function of GDP. Cos let’s be honest here, the top states are simply buying medals. It is an ugly, ugly business.theProle said:
Maybe we could level the playing field by calculating the numbers of medals/golds per entrant? That's surely a fairer metric.StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.0 -
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.0 -
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.0 -
It is Team GB competing not England.StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
The Commonwealth has also won more golds than the EU0 -
Fails Duck Test.
Thank you for getting into the spirit HY! Good chap. 😃0 -
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.0 -
On the BBC they were busily rounding people up to abuse the UK Govt, in this case a French MEP and a talk-o-chap from the travel industry.IanB2 said:Tomorrow’s announcement today:
A number of key destinations as well as international travel hubs will be removed from the red list – India, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE. India’s placement on the red list was the subject of substantial controversy after MPs accused Boris Johnson of delaying its inclusion in the spring as cases rapidly rose and the new Delta variant emerged.
Mexico, Georgia, Réunion and Mayotte are to be added to the red list. More countries will also be added to the green list where travellers can go regardless of vaccine status. New green list countries are Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Romania and Norway. All changes come into effect at 4am on Sunday 8 August in England.
Government at least has had the atlas out and finally worked out the difference between Reunion and France.0 -
With the added disadvantage that many of their positions are on the shady side of sanity.HYUFD said:
They can vote for the US Libertarian party which even in 2020 got 1.8 million votes.dixiedean said:
Feel sorry for decent conservatives. Who the heck do they vote for if they are small state, secular, live and let live types?kinabalu said:
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.
In 2016 it did even better and its candidate Gary Johnson came third with 4 million votes and 3% of the popular vote.
However Libertarianism is not really conservativism but a mixture of small state economics from the right and social liberalism from the left0 -
Compared with the position that Donald Trump is a suitable candidate for President, they would have to be pretty extreme to be worse.dixiedean said:
With the added disadvantage that many of their positions are on the shady side of sanity.HYUFD said:
They can vote for the US Libertarian party which even in 2020 got 1.8 million votes.dixiedean said:
Feel sorry for decent conservatives. Who the heck do they vote for if they are small state, secular, live and let live types?kinabalu said:
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.
In 2016 it did even better and its candidate Gary Johnson came third with 4 million votes and 3% of the popular vote.
However Libertarianism is not really conservativism but a mixture of small state economics from the right and social liberalism from the left0 -
Time for you to have a rest.StuartDickson said:
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.
💤0 -
I can believe that you are not in Sweden: I’ve been there enough times to know how expensive it is to get as drunk as your comments seem to show you are.StuartDickson said:
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.0 -
Fair point well made.Fysics_Teacher said:
Compared with the position that Donald Trump is a suitable candidate for President, they would have to be pretty extreme to be worse.dixiedean said:
With the added disadvantage that many of their positions are on the shady side of sanity.HYUFD said:
They can vote for the US Libertarian party which even in 2020 got 1.8 million votes.dixiedean said:
Feel sorry for decent conservatives. Who the heck do they vote for if they are small state, secular, live and let live types?kinabalu said:
Unbelievable. But maybe it was always there. Maybe all of that small state libertarianism he used to major on was a front. Or maybe this stuff is insincere and just rolled out to stimulate the new crazy base. God knows.Nigelb said:Newt Gingrich is the latest on Fox to go full great replacement theory: The left is bringing immigrants to the United States “to get rid of the rest of us”
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1422907573817290755
The US right is falling back on the racist tropes of the 19thC.
In 2016 it did even better and its candidate Gary Johnson came third with 4 million votes and 3% of the popular vote.
However Libertarianism is not really conservativism but a mixture of small state economics from the right and social liberalism from the left0 -
BREAKING: Texas reports more than 19,000 new coronavirus cases, biggest one-day increase since February 2
Or according the twat from the BBC, Texas has 185 new cases....1 -
I’m stone cold sober. Play the ball not the man.Fysics_Teacher said:
I can believe that you are not in Sweden: I’ve been there enough times to know how expensive it is to get as drunk as your comments seem to show you are.StuartDickson said:
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.
0 -
So, what is your argument?StuartDickson said:
I’m stone cold sober. Play the ball not the man.Fysics_Teacher said:
I can believe that you are not in Sweden: I’ve been there enough times to know how expensive it is to get as drunk as your comments seem to show you are.StuartDickson said:
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.
Anyone competing under the banner "Team GB" must be English as no True Scot would do such a thing?0 -
How? I’ve no idea what you are tying to say or the point you think you are making, except possibly England = bad?StuartDickson said:
I’m stone cold sober. Play the ball not the man.Fysics_Teacher said:
I can believe that you are not in Sweden: I’ve been there enough times to know how expensive it is to get as drunk as your comments seem to show you are.StuartDickson said:
I’m not in Sweden and I’m not tired dad.londonpubman said:
It must be getting late in Sweden. Time for bed methinks? 👍StuartDickson said:
Funny how England won the gold medal at the 1908 Olympic hockey, Ireland the silver and Scotland/Wales joint bronze, but all four medals are somehow rebranded as “Team GB” (sic).kle4 said:
The joke bombed the last time you tried it as its too ridiculous to believe you are serious. 'Doesn't matter how you look at it', like, you mean, how there are separate teams and it is the teams that are counted together, that way of looking at it? The way every nation on earth looks at it?StuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
Soviet cheating = bad
East German cheating = bad
English cheating = good
So childish.0 -
Police have arrested 11 people as they continue a hate crimes investigation into social media messages sent after the Euro 2020 final.
The UK Football Policing Unit received 600 reports of racist comments sent to England's black players after the defeat and judged 207 to be criminal.
Of these, 123 were posted by people overseas, while 34 came from the UK.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-580944080 -
So 50 came from Ireland?FrancisUrquhart said:Police have arrested 11 people as they continue a hate crimes investigation into social media messages sent after the Euro 2020 final.
The UK Football Policing Unit received 600 reports of racist comments sent to England's black players after the defeat and judged 207 to be criminal.
Of these, 123 were posted by people overseas, while 34 came from the UK.
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This prompted me to look at my cost. My current fixed price dual fuel deal has been 18 months I think at £74 per month (British Gas Green Online). Looks like the new one will be £90-95 per month, and I want a long fix to dodge the incoming rises which are arriving soon. To be fair the rises are only going to be 10-12%, whilst wholesale prices are up by 120% for gas and 50% for electricity, so really 10-12% is quite modest and energy is very cheap (imo ridiculously cheap) anyway.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
Interestingly looking back, when I moved into the current house in 2013 dual fuel bills were £125 per month, and it is now also 10% bigger due to a conservatory. That 50%+ real terms cut per unit is half due to steady investment and perhaps half due to switching. My specific energy usage is now some way below 100 kWh per sqm per year (for a 200sqm house).
1 - Agree that market tampering has been unhelpful recently.
2 - Ofgem has been very clear that it is wholesale prices.
3 - These days renewables are very cost competitive.
I'm inclined to view it a little like vaccine refuseniks. We have known this is coming down the road for at least 20 years, and we all had the option to address it or not. That does not help with these thing being society-wide questions - we need a market balance which encourages significant investment by individuals.0 -
One further point is that BG have overestimated by Elec usage by 100% (huge solar array), and my gas by 10%.MattW said:
This prompted me to look at my cost. My current fixed price dual fuel deal has been 18 months I think at £74 per month (British Gas Green Online). Looks like the new one will be £90-95 per month, and I want a long fix to dodge the incoming rises which are arriving soon. To be fair the rises are only going to be 10-12%, whilst wholesale prices are up by 120% for gas and 50% for electricity, so really 10-12% is quite modest and energy is very cheap (imo ridiculously cheap) anyway.theProle said:Fpt
Its three things.rottenborough said:
Don't think your rise is green related. There's a worldwide wholesale price issue for this winter.Big_G_NorthWales said:
As I mentioned earlier today my energy deal runs out this month and even the best 2 year fix I could find saw my daily unit rate for electricity and gas rise by 50%theProle said:
I think what he's saying is that Brexit happened as a powerful movement, against the wishes of the majority of politicians because the establishment had spent the last 30 years doing stuff people didn't like and blaming the EU, whilst a cosy concensus of the "mainstream" ensured we never got a vote on it (because if we did they knew they would lose).TheScreamingEagles said:Wait, Steve Baker just called Brexit a political fiasco.
Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit
The green idocy is going the same way. People want their gas central heating and their economical diesel cars (even the No10 spokeswoman it seems). They'd quite like cheap electricity. But without their consent (there has never been an election with a credible party against this) the government has promised to take all this stuff away from them.
If they carry on as they are, setting future targets which are going to be very painful for large chunks of the population, then when they bite claiming they are unchangeable and immutable like some sort of divine decree, net zero is going to become the new Brexit. We'll moan about it for a bit, a pressure group will force the government's hand, and as soon as the people get a real democratic say, the silent majority of the population will decide that enough is enough, and will tear the elite a new arsehole - just like happened with Brexit.
And this is just the start, as from October further rises are on the way
I really do not think the politicians have even started to understand just how the unimaginable costs involved in their green agenda are going to be paid by the majority of taxpayers
1) The government discovered that the retail energy markets were working as intended - i.e. regular switchers got the best deals. They decided that this was unfair on those who couldn't be bothered to switch, and so introduced price caps which mean there are no-longer good deals around for diligent switchers.
2)Global commodities prices are up for pretty much everything (I wonder how much this is relating to lots of countries having printed a load of cash for Covid).
3)We've deliberately gone for expensive electricity from wind + massive amounts of conventional backup rather than cheap coal or gas baseload. Everyone is pretending that wind is competitive, but that's only because we've tilted the playing field until it is.
Incidentally, an amusing story I heard recently - there is a moderate onshore windfarm near me, built on ground which was extensively shallow mined for lead and copper in the early Victorian era. In order to get the required ground stability for the towers, they poured a lot of concrete into holes in the ground. The site engineer did the maths - apparently the turbines should have nicely offset the co2 from the concrete foundations in around 400 years time...
Interestingly looking back, when I moved into the current house in 2013 dual fuel bills were £125 per month, and it is now also 10% bigger due to a conservatory. That 50%+ real terms cut per unit is half due to steady investment and perhaps half due to switching. My specific energy usage is now some way below 100 kWh per sqm per year (for a 200sqm house).
1 - Agree that market tampering has been unhelpful recently.
2 - Ofgem has been very clear that it is wholesale prices.
3 - These days renewables are very cost competitive.
I'm inclined to view it a little like vaccine refuseniks. We have known this is coming down the road for at least 20 years, and we all had the option to address it or not. That does not help with these thing being society-wide questions - we need a market balance which encourages significant investment by individuals.0 -
Simon Gleave, head of sports analysis, Nielsen Gracenote says: "Great Britain have closed the gap with the Rio and London Olympics and now have 48 medals after 12 days of competition compared to 49 in 2016 and 48 in 2012.
"However, at both of those Olympics, sailing, taekwondo and triathlon were still going on in the last four days of the Games so expect 2021 to fall behind again on total medals won."1 -
So we had a moral panic here in the UK over just 34 messages. Okay.FrancisUrquhart said:Police have arrested 11 people as they continue a hate crimes investigation into social media messages sent after the Euro 2020 final.
The UK Football Policing Unit received 600 reports of racist comments sent to England's black players after the defeat and judged 207 to be criminal.
Of these, 123 were posted by people overseas, while 34 came from the UK.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-580944080 -
Again, I would draw attention to the high ratio of gold to silver medals for Japan and Australia.FrancisUrquhart said:Simon Gleave, head of sports analysis, Nielsen Gracenote says: "Great Britain have closed the gap with the Rio and London Olympics and now have 48 medals after 12 days of competition compared to 49 in 2016 and 48 in 2012.
"However, at both of those Olympics, sailing, taekwondo and triathlon were still going on in the last four days of the Games so expect 2021 to fall behind again on total medals won."
If this means they have less strength in depth than other countries, then so be it. But if it instead means that Japan and Australia are better at turning their contenders into champions, then if we could emulate that then we'd be in the top three countries for gold medals, and possibly the top two. Take Australia's gold and silver medals: they have 19, of which 15, or 80 per cent, are gold. Britain has 33, and 80 per cent would mean 26 gold medals (and 7 silver).
Rank Country Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 China 32 22 16 70
2 USA 25 31 23 79
3 Japan 21 7 12 40
4 Great Britain 15 18 15 48
5 Australia 15 4 17 36
6 ROC 14 21 18 53
7 Germany 8 8 16 32
8 France 6 10 9 25
9 Italy 6 9 15 30
10 Netherlands 6 8 9 23
Obviously life is not like that but it does suggest there might be more to play for.0 -
Not a bad heat in the women's 4x100m relay. A new British record, finishing in front of USA and Jamaica, and Dina Asher-Smith's leg held up.
Jamaica's B-team, of course, and they did stop to make a cup of tea at the last changeover.2 -
Can anyone explain how the world record for the women's 4x100 metres relay can be 40.82 secs when the world record for the women's 100 metres is 10.49 secs?0
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Three running starts in the relay. 100 per cent standing start in the 100m.Andy_JS said:Can anyone explain how the world record for the women's 4x100 metres relay can be 40.82 secs when the world record for the women's 100 metres is 10.49 secs?
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I'm seeing many highly uniformed takes about SARSCoV2 variants, by comedians, politicians, scientists and whatnot. There are four 'variants of concern' (alpha-delta). They all emerged in mid-late 2020.
Delta is currently the most concerning. It spread in India in the spring and has become dominant globally since. There have been no 'variants of concern' emerging in 2021 so far (lambda and delta+ are not it).
Uniformed speculations about variant emergence may well attract retweets and likes, but this is not helpful at all. We've got enough on our hands without having to deal with uninformed nonsense.
Spreading SARSCoV2 variant fear and despair threatens the mental helth of many and is likely to fuel vaccine hesitancy. Enough! Enough of this. Get a grip.
https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/14230850618182656002 -
Tokyo's heat and humidity are causing problems for the women golfers (men played last week) and football matches might be postponed. The golf tournament might be shortened to 54 holes because storms are forecast for the weekend. This may be important for betting positions.
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Thanks.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Three running starts in the relay. 100 per cent standing start in the 100m.Andy_JS said:Can anyone explain how the world record for the women's 4x100 metres relay can be 40.82 secs when the world record for the women's 100 metres is 10.49 secs?
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Interesting that we are adding Mexico to the red list while I waas just allowed to swam into the United States from there without being checked at all, while America won't allow people to come in straight from the UK.MattW said:
On the BBC they were busily rounding people up to abuse the UK Govt, in this case a French MEP and a talk-o-chap from the travel industry.IanB2 said:Tomorrow’s announcement today:
A number of key destinations as well as international travel hubs will be removed from the red list – India, Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE. India’s placement on the red list was the subject of substantial controversy after MPs accused Boris Johnson of delaying its inclusion in the spring as cases rapidly rose and the new Delta variant emerged.
Mexico, Georgia, Réunion and Mayotte are to be added to the red list. More countries will also be added to the green list where travellers can go regardless of vaccine status. New green list countries are Austria, Germany, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Romania and Norway. All changes come into effect at 4am on Sunday 8 August in England.
Government at least has had the atlas out and finally worked out the difference between Reunion and France.
It's a strange world sometimes.2 -
They have better things to spend hundreds of millions or billions of public money on than chasing bits of coloured metal.londonpubman said:
Please show us an EU country anywhere near us in the medal tableStuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
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Those wine lakes or butter mountains aren’t going to build themselves.Fishing said:
They have better things to spend hundreds of millions or billions of public money on than chasing bits of coloured metal.londonpubman said:
Please show us an EU country anywhere near us in the medal tableStuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
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Great argument - if you like fake news.Fishing said:
They have better things to spend hundreds of millions or billions of public money on than chasing bits of coloured metal.londonpubman said:
Please show us an EU country anywhere near us in the medal tableStuartDickson said:
Swings and roundabouts. Yes, the EU gets more competitors per event (which in most cases makes zero difference to podium places), but on the other hand the EU misses out on loads of relay and team podium placing.felix said:
It was the idiot Dickson who pretended it was one country with no limits on the number of competitor entries. BDS is a serious illness and apparently there is no vaccine or cure.Selebian said:
Didn't someone post on this before and note that the EU are way ahead of us on medals?felix said:
Scott'n paste orgasms whenever he senses gloom and doom for the UK v EU. Notice how he's avoiding the Olympic Medal table.Selebian said:
Leaving aside different points in cycle etc, on a 7 day basis, Spain and France are very comparable to UK according to OWID. OWID also suggests Spain and France reporting is massively variable on a single day basis.Scott_xP said:UK recorded 29,312 coronavirus cases in last 24 hours.
Here’s how we compare to other countries:
🇬🇧 UK - 29,312
🇫🇷 FRANCE - 1,996
🇩🇪 GERMANY - 1,776
🇪🇸 SPAIN - 4,954
🇮🇹 ITALY - 3,185
🇺🇸 USA - 15,081
🇧🇷 BRAZIL - 20,503
🇮🇳 INDIA - 30,549
🇮🇩 INDONESIA - 33,900
(Data: @who)
https://twitter.com/mrmikecowan/status/1422939172902514688
It's a nonsense stat anyway, to make any kind of point about how well countries are doing. But taking a single day (with likely different reporting lags between countries) speaks of dubious motivation.
It doesn’t matter how you look at it, the English are getting utterly thrashed by the EU at this Olympics.
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Pret, McColls and Welcome Break in minimum wage fail
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58083889
Some of the example companies "named and shamed" are on the face of it extremely unfair. John Lewis, one case, 4 years ago. That is clearly a mistake, and probably some weird edge case, where their accounting software bugged out. A huge organisation making a single balls up 4 years ago isn't exactly trying to pull a fast one on workers.2 -
Billion dollar arsonist in the US navy…
USS Bonhomme Richard fire: Suspect identified as 20-year-old Navy sailor
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Mens 4x100m relay -- GB through after running second behind Jamaica but USA did not qualify (only sixth in their heat).0
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The report covers 2011 to 2018 which makes it hardly timely but cock-ups don't help when you are at the supermarket till and it is employers' responsibility to get it right. From your link:-FrancisUrquhart said:Pret, McColls and Welcome Break in minimum wage fail
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58083889
Some of the example companies "named and shamed" are on the face of it extremely unfair. John Lewis, one case, 4 years ago. That is clearly a mistake, and probably some weird edge case, where their accounting software bugged out. A huge organisation making a single balls up 4 years ago isn't exactly trying to pull a fast one on workers.
The government acknowledged that many of the breaches were not intentional, but said the minimum wage laws were meant to ensure that a fair day's work received a fair day's pay.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58083889
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