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Scotland could host the UK's first dedicated base for spaceplanes, according to new government plans.
Ministers want to establish the UK spaceport by 2018 - the first of its kind outside of the US.
Eight aerodromes have been shortlisted and Scotland has six of the potential locations.
The Scottish government said only independence would lead to a greater development of the country's space industry.
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David Cameron @David_Cameron 24s
Priti Patel becomes Exchequer Secretary at the Treasury. #Reshuffle0 -
Priti Patel - Exchequer Secretary at the Treasury0
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@PfP
You do not need to be able to rote repeat times tables to be numerate.
I could have worked it out but as I have a calculator next to me, I used that.
One of the big problems with old school teaching fans is their Luddism.
It's the same wasters who advocate focusing on handwriting over touch typing.
I can still remember at school when we weren't allowed to use word processors for our essays.
They caught up. Years later.0 -
@TheScreamingEagles
Sod that, England can have the spaceport.
I for one am not keen on people launching several tons of rocket fuel over my head. Add it to the Heathrow extension project?0 -
Oliver Halfwit has been given a small bar of chocolate.0
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So the next leader does not even get a cabinet post.oxfordsimon said:Priti Patel - Exchequer Secretary at the Treasury
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I am de-lurking just so I can applaud BobaFett for an immaculate bit of maths trolling...
(Oh and to say as a parent of a 10-year-old who is very involved with my sons school I have never heard anyone - either parent or teacher - say a good word about Gove. Even very non-political parents seemed to have an instinctive dislike of him.)0 -
12:27: David Cameron tweets: Anna Soubry is promoted to Minister of State at the Ministry of Defence. #Reshuffle0
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Surely what we have here is a classic merit versus tokenism debate.
If the tories' older supporters get the impression that a load of people have been promoted because they are 1. female and/or 2. young, this could go very badly for Dave.
A lightweight is a lightweight.0 -
That one I'm happy with!TheScreamingEagles said:David Cameron @David_Cameron 24s
Priti Patel becomes Exchequer Secretary at the Treasury. #Reshuffle0 -
12:17: David Cameron tweets: David Gauke is promoted to Financial Secretary to the Treasury. #Reshuffle
Bravo to that one.0 -
Penny Mordaunt and Amber Rudd both join the ministerial ranks
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One for @isamNorm said:
That one I'm happy with!TheScreamingEagles said:David Cameron @David_Cameron 24s
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He'll ask Mike and get back to youBobaFett said:@TSE
My understanding was that Mike was largely equivocal about Ed but thought he was the better choice as he is more attractive to Red Liberals than his brother.
Are you sure you aren't confusing your own views with those of Mike?
I'm not having that you didn't know 8x7... Ridiculous0 -
Is the spaceport the place from which we will launch Ed Balls into the sun? I think we need Morris Dancer to advise. (This being the UK we will maybe have a trebuchet based launch system?)Smarmeron said:@TheScreamingEagles
Sod that, England can have the spaceport.
I for one am not keen on people launching several tons of rocket fuel over my head. Add it to the Heathrow extension project?0 -
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A few of weeks back I went too far in an attack on JackW for which I apologise. I will try to keep further comments within civilised bounds.
I accept your apology without reservation and look forward to your return to the broad church that is PB.
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Thank you for all your efforts.0 -
Yep. I've heard of the Argument From Ignorance, but until today I'd never come across the Argument For Ignorance.Cyclefree said:FPT:
"The date an ancient king died does not. There's an app for that. "
This sums up everything that to me is wrong. Unless you have a basic understanding of the facts - the narrative - of our history and that of other countries, of basic scientific concepts, of mathematical concepts etc, how on earth do you know that what you are being told is true. How can you ask intelligent questions? How on earth do you think that you can design an app or whatever will replace them?
Education is not just a collection of random facts that you pick up from an app, anymore than if you collected facts from an encyclopaedia or words from a dictionary. That's just confusing the sort of random knowledge that might win you points on a pub quiz team with education. You need a good solid basic understanding of what happened, how things work, how to use numbers, how to express yourself etc,. Without this, you will always struggle no matter how many apps you have.
It also presumes that there are intelligent people to whom thinking skills and logic can be taught but who aren't otherwise curious. In my experience, this is untrue - smart people are always well-informed and stupid people are always ignorant. You rarely meet a stupid but well-informed person. You sometimes meet a smart but ignorant person, though smart people are usually aware of the limits to their knowledge and manage themselves accordingly. There are obvious exceptions - one thinks of climate scientists, who are sometimes modestly intelligent but ignorant of good statistical practice, and also ignorant of their ignorance - but on the whole I think this is true.
Anyway - how would you google the English Civil War if you'd never heard of it in the first place? What would make you do it?
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that Labour doesn't want history taught because any knowledge of it would cost them votes; and that UKIPpers want it taught to make all them darkies feel less comfortable "comin' over 'ere".0 -
I think it would be simpler if they just list who HADN'T been reshuffled! I can't keep up.0
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My understanding is that Ed stands a decent chance of becoming Prime Minister in spite of his faults, and what an indictment that is of the Coalition.BobaFett said:@TSE
My understanding was that Mike was largely equivocal about Ed but thought he was the better choice as he is more attractive to Red Liberals than his brother.
Are you sure you aren't confusing your own views with those of Mike?
Every "Ed is weird" smear prompts the question "So why aren't the Tories on track for a majority?"0 -
Love education debates, so free of facts and so full of wishful thinking. Fads going round in circles, ignorant to the fact all methods have been tried before, especially the left who seem to ignore they have controlled the Sector since the sixties. Of course the Rand Corporation did a huge study and found the greatest influence was quality of students, it's why all elite educational institutions have rigorous test based entry requirements. To his credit Gove did introduce a more scientific approach to the Department, not least by listening to the likes of Robert Plomin. Unfortunately we still have enormously wasteful nonesense like head start that Labour introduced after its proven failure in America, of course has failed here too. Steal the poor people's kids is the way the left is thinking, of course the left did that to Aborigines in Australia and it was cruel and a failure then.0
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Rote learning works though, it's why private schools use it still.BobaFett said:@PfP
You do not need to be able to rote repeat times tables to be numerate.
I could have worked it out but as I have a calculator next to me, I used that.
One of the big problems with old school teaching fans is their Luddism.
It's the same wasters who advocate focusing on handwriting over touch typing.
I can still remember at school when we weren't allowed to use word processors for our essays.
They caught up. Years later.
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"The Green party is pleased to see the back of Owen Paterson at Defra, but says that Liz Truss now has her work cut out. Natalie Bennett, the Green party leader, says in a statement that Mr Paterson’s departure removes “a major international embarrassment” to Britain.
“Mr Paterson failed to take the threat of climate change seriously and will be remembered as the man who failed to take action to protect Britain against it,” says Ms Bennett.
“Having Paterson, who wilfully ignored scientific evidence on climate change, as well in instituting the badger cull, in the post of Environment Secretary made a mockery of David Cameron’s promise that his administration would be the ‘Greenest Government ever’.”
All of which makes me think the firing of Paterson is a mistake.0 -
I never heard a parent express an opinion on him one way or the other. It's one of those things where some people feel passionately and vote-switchingly and others don't really know or care.state_go_away said:Was Michael Gove unpopular with parents though (or at least those who are swing voters?) . More of them than teachers
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Mental arithmetic is excellent for the brain and helps with many cognitive processes. It is essential it remains core to teaching.BobaFett said:@PfP
You do not need to be able to rote repeat times tables to be numerate.
I could have worked it out but as I have a calculator next to me, I used that.
One of the big problems with old school teaching fans is their Luddism.
It's the same wasters who advocate focusing on handwriting over touch typing.
I can still remember at school when we weren't allowed to use word processors for our essays.
They caught up. Years later.
Having to 'look up' 7x8 is a damning indictment of the education system in a grown man, it's something every 7-8 year old should know, and retain, throughout their life.
You are correct on handwriting versus touch typing.0 -
Will Gove moving result in an increase in LD votes?
One of the reasons why there is a big LD to L shift, and probably high don't knows, is the association of LD education policy with Gove. With Gove gone, and the oxygen taken out of the education fire, does this have an indirect impact of removing a barrier to a shift back to LD?
Will this cause Labour' crutch to start wobbling?0 -
Poor girl ! First, it was Attorney General, then Defence Secretary. Now using a calculator to add up the wastes.Richard_Nabavi said:12:27: David Cameron tweets: Anna Soubry is promoted to Minister of State at the Ministry of Defence. #Reshuffle
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The PM's spokesman says he wants Michael Gove and William Hague "at the heart of the government's team", adding: "You should expect to see a great deal of Michael Gove on your TV and radio channels."
David Cameron tweets: Oliver Letwin remains Minister for Government Policy and becomes Lord Privy Seal. #Reshuffle
I'm sure Labour love the above....Hague and Gove all over the telly during the GE and Letwin doing the "thinking", what could go wrong.0 -
This reshuffle has been sponsored by 38 degrees seems to me !0
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OblitusSumMe said:
If you don't know some of the basic arithmetic off the top of your head you will find it very hard to (a) do the more complicated stuff and (b) recognise when you made a mistake putting the numbers into your calculator.BobaFett said:@Cycle
Of course you need knowledge, of themes, times, trends, dynamics, ideas and theories.
Knowing the exact date of King Harold's death you do not need in your head.
And Morris, nor do you need to know what 7x8 is, off the top of your head. But you do need to grasp how to multiply, and the basics of algebra, and, ideally, game theory.
Secondly, while knowing the precise date of King Harold's death as a fact in isolation is irrelevant, it would be hard to know anything about the Norman Conquest without having a good idea of what year it was.
Like I said, ignorant people often don't realise they're ignorant, in consequence of their ignorance.OblitusSumMe said:
If you have to "look up" what 7x8 is then you are not numerate, and you also have a poor understanding of English. The definition of numerate is: "having a good basic knowledge of arithmetic; able to understand and work with numbers"BobaFett said:@Sean
I had to look up 7x8. Yet I am highly numerate and grasp much mathematical theory.
Lots of people who know what 7x8 is have no grasp of maths.
It's a sort of allotrope of the Dunning-Kruger effect, but applicable to knowledge rather than wisdom.0 -
Cameron had to accept real facts. There are 440000 teachers. It is a big constituency. The swing was heavily against the Minister of Silly Walks.
To be fair to Cam, he put winning elections first ! Now let's see how many MPs he annoys.0 -
I'm pretty certain Truss will be in a similar mould. Fundamentally Paterson preferred Food and Rural Affairs to the Environment (surely there are others, like Davey, to cover that) and from what Truss has said anecdotally I don't think she'll be much different.Norm said:"The Green party is pleased to see the back of Owen Paterson at Defra, but says that Liz Truss now has her work cut out. Natalie Bennett, the Green party leader, says in a statement that Mr Paterson’s departure removes “a major international embarrassment” to Britain.
“Mr Paterson failed to take the threat of climate change seriously and will be remembered as the man who failed to take action to protect Britain against it,” says Ms Bennett.
“Having Paterson, who wilfully ignored scientific evidence on climate change, as well in instituting the badger cull, in the post of Environment Secretary made a mockery of David Cameron’s promise that his administration would be the ‘Greenest Government ever’.”
All of which makes me think the firing of Paterson is a mistake.0 -
Some of us not directly involved with schools share similar views of Mr. Gove.ydoethur said:And finally, to confirm what Mike Smithson has said, Gove was definitely unpopular with far more than just the NUT leadership. Many, probably the overwhelming majority, of teachers genuinely had what amounted to a swivel-eyed hatred for him (yes, really, you do get people who will rant, stamp and shout at the mere mention of his name). Just because the NUT are almost as derided and unpopular outside a hardcore of their members doesn't mean that they were unrepresentative on this issue.
I note that in the latest issue of Private Eye, number 1370, page six, cheekily offers the possibility that Gove could be offered the editorship of the Daily Mail, down the line.
I say that this would seem to be entirely consistent. But heck, what do I know?0 -
No. Removing the 2 and 2 leaves 5 cars and 6 goats. You have either a car or a goat.Pulpstar said:
If you have a car, there are 4 cars and 6 goats elsewhere.
if a goat, 5 and 5 elsewhere
Therefore there is 9 out of 20 chance of finding a car on a swap
You have 5 out of 11 chance on your door
Or 99 out of 220 on a swap versus
100 out if 220 on sticking
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I might marry Liz Truss. If she asks me nicely0
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Gove going is a terrible decision for our education system. My only hope is that Nicky Morgan will continue a programme of radical change that might even exceed what Give was attempting. If not we will see our education system slip back into the third rate mediocrity where it languished for sop many years under Labour.Toms said:
Some of us not directly involved with schools share similar views of Mr. Gove.ydoethur said:And finally, to confirm what Mike Smithson has said, Gove was definitely unpopular with far more than just the NUT leadership. Many, probably the overwhelming majority, of teachers genuinely had what amounted to a swivel-eyed hatred for him (yes, really, you do get people who will rant, stamp and shout at the mere mention of his name). Just because the NUT are almost as derided and unpopular outside a hardcore of their members doesn't mean that they were unrepresentative on this issue.
I note that in the latest issue of Private Eye, number 1370, page six, cheekily offers the possibility that Gove could be offered the editorship of the Daily Mail, down the line.
I say that this would seem to be entirely consistent. But heck, what do I know?0 -
The really interesting thing about the Monty Hall problem is that it is answered differently in Britain and America, owing to different assumptions about how the host chooses doors.Pulpstar said:
Maybe the real lesson, as with the financial crisis, is that the assumptions matter at least as much as the algebra.0 -
Patience, 10 months to go, and the Tories lead with the Gold Standard.Freggles said:
My understanding is that Ed stands a decent chance of becoming Prime Minister in spite of his faults, and what an indictment that is of the Coalition.BobaFett said:@TSE
My understanding was that Mike was largely equivocal about Ed but thought he was the better choice as he is more attractive to Red Liberals than his brother.
Are you sure you aren't confusing your own views with those of Mike?
Every "Ed is weird" smear prompts the question "So why aren't the Tories on track for a majority?"
Swingback to kick up a few more notches and the Tories gain Doncaster North next year.0 -
McTernan is wrong.
Cameron's changes are all about winning in 2015. The faces may have changes, the policies won't.
Refreshed new government who by next year will all be on top of their brief's - another underlying message about the risk of switching to Labour.
It will be interesting to see how much the coverage of Cameron's changes will blank out any coverage of Labour's policy conference this weekend.0 -
Still in shock wrt Gove. Mike is right that it should help the Tories electorally, but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.
Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.0 -
Labour doesn't want history taught because for most of our long history they were irrelevant.Bond_James_Bond said:
Yep. I've heard of the Argument From Ignorance, but until today I'd never come across the Argument For Ignorance.Cyclefree said:FPT:
"The date an ancient king died does not. There's an app for that. "
This sums up everything that to me is wrong. Unless you have a basic understanding of the facts - the narrative - of our history and that of other countries, of basic scientific concepts, of mathematical concepts etc, how on earth do you know that what you are being told is true. How can you ask intelligent questions? How on earth do you think that you can design an app or whatever will replace them?
Education is not just a collection of random facts that you pick up from an app, anymore than if you collected facts from an encyclopaedia or words from a dictionary. That's just confusing the sort of random knowledge that might win you points on a pub quiz team with education. You need a good solid basic understanding of what happened, how things work, how to use numbers, how to express yourself etc,. Without this, you will always struggle no matter how many apps you have.
It also presumes that there are intelligent people to whom thinking skills and logic can be taught but who aren't otherwise curious. In my experience, this is untrue - smart people are always well-informed and stupid people are always ignorant. You rarely meet a stupid but well-informed person. You sometimes meet a smart but ignorant person, though smart people are usually aware of the limits to their knowledge and manage themselves accordingly. There are obvious exceptions - one thinks of climate scientists, who are sometimes modestly intelligent but ignorant of good statistical practice, and also ignorant of their ignorance - but on the whole I think this is true.
Anyway - how would you google the English Civil War if you'd never heard of it in the first place? What would make you do it?
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that Labour doesn't want history taught because any knowledge of it would cost them votes; and that UKIPpers want it taught to make all them darkies feel less comfortable "comin' over 'ere".
Also, if you know our history, for all our nation's faults, it instils a sense of pride.
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We await Bobajobb's contribution...dyedwoolie said:
No. Removing the 2 and 2 leaves 5 cars and 6 goats. You have either a car or a goat.Pulpstar said:
If you have a car, there are 4 cars and 6 goats elsewhere.
if a goat, 5 and 5 elsewhere
Therefore there is 9 out of 20 chance of finding a car on a swap
You have 5 out of 11 chance on your door
Or 99 out of 220 on a swap versus
100 out if 220 on sticking
BANK!0 -
A pretty poor opinion and a pretty poor headline. Hague wanted to go and he stays for the end of the parliament. Few people seem to be thonking about his wife at this juncture. Clarke is 74. Gove has been in education for 4 years and the reforms have been passed; he has done all the dirty work. He is still around as chief whip, and that is not a bad place to be for a leadershp election and he will be doing media and can trawl the constituencies. Patterson? He is a AGW sceptic (like me) - but so what, what evidence is there that that is the defining reason for him going?
I do not see much educated comment on this reshuffle. It seems quite canny to me.0 -
You mean, like Ed Balls was?Jonathan said:Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.
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''but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.''
??? is the new person going to reverse anything Gove has done???
Labour's policy? Let's make England like Wales.....!!!0 -
Actually despite you and I being polar opposites politically I agree with that. Most of the hot air came from the "Blob". The vote switching part worked in both directions incidentally - Times readers albeit admittedly not exactly representative of English voters as a whole are critical of Gove being moved by a margin of about 10 to 2 (as judged by readers "likes") .NickPalmer said:
I never heard a parent express an opinion on him one way or the other. It's one of those things where some people feel passionately and vote-switchingly and others don't really know or care.state_go_away said:Was Michael Gove unpopular with parents though (or at least those who are swing voters?) . More of them than teachers
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Labour had part time Defence Secretaries whilst we were fighting two wars.Jonathan said:Still in shock wrt Gove. Mike is right that it should help the Tories electorally, but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.
Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.
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Ah.... 'SpacePorts'. I have fond memories. I seem to remember that Southport was good enough for Dan Dare.0
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Noting that Oliver Letwin is now one of the Great Officers of State as Lord Privy Seal but is he in the Cabinet or attending as previously ?0
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An actual seal might do less damage than OllyJackW said:Noting that Oliver Letwin is now one of the Great Officers of State as Lord Privy Seal but is he in the Cabinet or attending as previously ?
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In which case we need to start appointing people who aren't MPs.Jonathan said:Still in shock wrt Gove. Mike is right that it should help the Tories electorally, but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.
Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.
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I think Saddo and Taffy make good points. Others seem to be completely missing the point.0
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Sorry if I gave the impression that I think it's impossible to do worse. Maybe they're working on it as we speak.Richard_Tyndall said:
Gove going is a terrible decision for our education system. My only hope is that Nicky Morgan will continue a programme of radical change that might even exceed what Give was attempting. If not we will see our education system slip back into the third rate mediocrity where it languished for sop many years under Labour.Toms said:
Some of us not directly involved with schools share similar views of Mr. Gove.ydoethur said:And finally, to confirm what Mike Smithson has said, Gove was definitely unpopular with far more than just the NUT leadership. Many, probably the overwhelming majority, of teachers genuinely had what amounted to a swivel-eyed hatred for him (yes, really, you do get people who will rant, stamp and shout at the mere mention of his name). Just because the NUT are almost as derided and unpopular outside a hardcore of their members doesn't mean that they were unrepresentative on this issue.
I note that in the latest issue of Private Eye, number 1370, page six, cheekily offers the possibility that Gove could be offered the editorship of the Daily Mail, down the line.
I say that this would seem to be entirely consistent. But heck, what do I know?0 -
GCHQ leak lists UK cyber-spies' hacking tools
Glitterball - software to help agents carry out operations in Second Life
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28306819
When is this document from, 2006? I think any spooks going to carry out operations in Second Life would struggle to find anybody too play with these days.0 -
Sounds like the perfect discreet location ;-)FrancisUrquhart said:GCHQ leak lists UK cyber-spies' hacking tools
Glitterball - software to help agents carry out operations in Second Life
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28306819
When is this document from, 2006? I think any spooks going to carry out operations in Second Life would struggle to find anybody too play with these days.0 -
In God we Truss!0
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In a #reshuffle where competence mattered Hague, Hammond, Gove and Clarke would have stayed in place and IDS would've been sacked.
Odd he should think that, IDS would be hard to replace.
"Here good sir, partake of this goblet before the contents dissolve it"0 -
If the purpose of the Gove move is to remove some of the poison from education say by allowing the Lib Dems to come to the front of stage then a part time education secretary makes perfect sense.TheScreamingEagles said:
Labour had part time Defence Secretaries whilst we were fighting two wars.Jonathan said:Still in shock wrt Gove. Mike is right that it should help the Tories electorally, but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.
Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.
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The compulsory use of iodised salt by food manufacturers would probably do most to boost test scores, be cretinous not to do so given its negligible cost.0
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Haven't been on PB since the WC Final, but just thought that Germany plenty deserved to win0
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For Boba, an article on why 7x8 is one of the trickiest sums in the times tables. Jolly interesting, and it explained why my wife and I felt like we were banging our head on the wall trying to teach our 7yo the 8 times table!
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We know it is possible to do a lot worse. Labour did it for 13 years.Toms said:
Sorry if I gave the impression that I think it's impossible to do worse. Maybe they're working on it as we speak.Richard_Tyndall said:
Gove going is a terrible decision for our education system. My only hope is that Nicky Morgan will continue a programme of radical change that might even exceed what Give was attempting. If not we will see our education system slip back into the third rate mediocrity where it languished for sop many years under Labour.Toms said:
Some of us not directly involved with schools share similar views of Mr. Gove.ydoethur said:And finally, to confirm what Mike Smithson has said, Gove was definitely unpopular with far more than just the NUT leadership. Many, probably the overwhelming majority, of teachers genuinely had what amounted to a swivel-eyed hatred for him (yes, really, you do get people who will rant, stamp and shout at the mere mention of his name). Just because the NUT are almost as derided and unpopular outside a hardcore of their members doesn't mean that they were unrepresentative on this issue.
I note that in the latest issue of Private Eye, number 1370, page six, cheekily offers the possibility that Gove could be offered the editorship of the Daily Mail, down the line.
I say that this would seem to be entirely consistent. But heck, what do I know?0 -
Fox appears to have been offered ministerial role at FCO - but appears to have turned it down...0
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I am of the thinking that teams only 'deserve to win' if they score more goals than the team they are playing -that's the only aim of football isn't it? the only exception was the play off final where I did sort of feel Derby 'deserved to win' against QPRSunil_Prasannan said:Haven't been on PB since the WC Final, but just thought that Germany plenty deserved to win
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These were the ones I thought interesting:RobD said:
Sounds like the perfect discreet location ;-)FrancisUrquhart said:GCHQ leak lists UK cyber-spies' hacking tools
Glitterball - software to help agents carry out operations in Second Life
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28306819
When is this document from, 2006? I think any spooks going to carry out operations in Second Life would struggle to find anybody too play with these days.
Spring Bishop - a tool to find private pictures of targets on Facebook
Bearscrape - a tool to extract a computer's wi-fi connection history
Miniature Hero - the ability to source real-time call records, instant messages and contact lists from Skype
Anyone that still believes they're only collecting metadata is an idiot. David Cameron believes in a state just small enough to fit through your modem.0 -
Initially:dyedwoolie said:
No. Removing the 2 and 2 leaves 5 cars and 6 goats. You have either a car or a goat.Pulpstar said:
If you have a car, there are 4 cars and 6 goats elsewhere.
if a goat, 5 and 5 elsewhere
Therefore there is 9 out of 20 chance of finding a car on a swap
You have 5 out of 11 chance on your door
Or 99 out of 220 on a swap versus
100 out if 220 on sticking
BANK!
P(C) = 7/15; P(G) = 8/15
If we switch, we are choosing from 10 doors (Hence the second denominator)
P(C -> C) = 7/15 * 4/10 = 28/150
P(C -> G) = 7/15 * 6/10 = 42/150
P(G -> C) = 8/15 * 5/10 = 40/150
P(G -> G) = 8/15 * 5/10 = 40/150
P(C or G -> C) = 28/150 + 40/150 = 68/150
P(C or G -> G) = 42/150 + 40/150 = 82/150
(70 - 68)/150 = 2/150
Hence you reduce the probability of winning the car by 1.33... % by switching.
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As well as parroting the tables, kids need to be taught pattern recognition and partial sum banking to help with trickier sums.Anorak said:For Boba, an article on why 7x8 is one of the trickiest sums in the times tables. Jolly interesting, and it explained why my wife and I felt like we were banging our head on the wall trying to teach our 7yo the 8 times table!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28143553
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Not really an admission of defeat when he kept in there for four years. More just removing him before the election so Labour can't use his unpopularity. I still think it's a mistake, but don't buy the spin you want to put on it.Jonathan said:Still in shock wrt Gove. Mike is right that it should help the Tories electorally, but it's quite an admission of defeat for the governments programme.
Having a part-time education secretary is probably a mistake politically.0 -
Huzzah.oxfordsimon said:Fox appears to have been offered ministerial role at FCO - but appears to have turned it down...
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The constraints of reality being that David Cameron is too europhile to ever put a eurosceptic in a position of influence.Richard_Nabavi said:
Undoubtedly true, just as they were disappointed in turn with Cameron and Hague. They briefly turned to Boris before discovering he wasn't a Europhobe, and so on.rcs1000 said:I think - in the medium term - that Eurosceptics will be very disappointed with Mr Hammond.
Of course there's a reason for this: the source of their disappointments is that they are blaming individuals for the constraints of reality.0 -
But as PISA tells us, on a like for like basis the private sector in the UK under-performs the state sector:FalseFlag said:
Rote learning works though, it's why private schools use it still.BobaFett said:@PfP
You do not need to be able to rote repeat times tables to be numerate.
I could have worked it out but as I have a calculator next to me, I used that.
One of the big problems with old school teaching fans is their Luddism.
It's the same wasters who advocate focusing on handwriting over touch typing.
I can still remember at school when we weren't allowed to use word processors for our essays.
They caught up. Years later.
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisaproducts/pisainfocus/48482894.pdf
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So Philip Hammond, the man who would vote to leave the EU isn't a eurosceptic.Socrates said:
The constraints of reality being that David Cameron is too europhile to ever put a eurosceptic in a position of influence.Richard_Nabavi said:
Undoubtedly true, just as they were disappointed in turn with Cameron and Hague. They briefly turned to Boris before discovering he wasn't a Europhobe, and so on.rcs1000 said:I think - in the medium term - that Eurosceptics will be very disappointed with Mr Hammond.
Of course there's a reason for this: the source of their disappointments is that they are blaming individuals for the constraints of reality.
You learn something new everyday.
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Agreed. I still remember being astounded that the sum of the odd digits equals the sum of the even digits for all multiples of 11. [I later found out this applies to multiples of 9 in base 8, multiples of 17 in hexidecimal etc. This is, IMHO, pretty cool.].dyedwoolie said:
As well as parroting the tables, kids need to be taught pattern recognition and partial sum banking to help with trickier sums.Anorak said:For Boba, an article on why 7x8 is one of the trickiest sums in the times tables. Jolly interesting, and it explained why my wife and I felt like we were banging our head on the wall trying to teach our 7yo the 8 times table!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28143553
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Perhaps offered Hugh Robertson's job as a Minister of State? If true (who knows), Can't blame him for turning it down - such an offer would border on the insulting. And I'm no fan of his.TheScreamingEagles said:
Huzzah.oxfordsimon said:Fox appears to have been offered ministerial role at FCO - but appears to have turned it down...
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As I understand, Hammond is a "in with reform" position. And a Cameron loyalist. He'll keep out the way while Cameron decides EU policy, like Hague did.TheScreamingEagles said:
So Philip Hammond, the man who would vote to leave the EU isn't a eurosceptic.Socrates said:
The constraints of reality being that David Cameron is too europhile to ever put a eurosceptic in a position of influence.Richard_Nabavi said:
Undoubtedly true, just as they were disappointed in turn with Cameron and Hague. They briefly turned to Boris before discovering he wasn't a Europhobe, and so on.rcs1000 said:I think - in the medium term - that Eurosceptics will be very disappointed with Mr Hammond.
Of course there's a reason for this: the source of their disappointments is that they are blaming individuals for the constraints of reality.
You learn something new everyday.0 -
No white smoke from the LibDems over their ministerial changes, if any, or are they waiting for the Conservative music to stop before they wind up the gramophone for their own tunes to play over the airwaves ?0
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Fox was deluded if he thought he was likely to walk back into a high profile Cabinet position. He left under a very black cloud - and should have rebuilt his career from the ground up.JohnO said:
Perhaps offered Hugh Robertson's job as a Minister of State? If true (who knows), Can't blame him for turning it down - such an offer would border on the insulting. And I'm no fan of his.TheScreamingEagles said:
Huzzah.oxfordsimon said:Fox appears to have been offered ministerial role at FCO - but appears to have turned it down...
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Run for the hills.JackW said:Noting that Oliver Letwin is now one of the Great Officers of State as Lord Privy Seal but is he in the Cabinet or attending as previously ?
For unerring bad judgement, combined with complete unsuitability for office, no one comes close to Oliver Letwin.
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You are likely to have to wait until after the conference season for the Yellow changesJackW said:No white smoke from the LibDems over their ministerial changes, if any, or are they waiting for the Conservative music to stop before they wind up the gramophone for their own tunes to play over the airwaves ?
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I'll put you down as a possible.Sean_F said:
Run for the hills.JackW said:Noting that Oliver Letwin is now one of the Great Officers of State as Lord Privy Seal but is he in the Cabinet or attending as previously ?
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Has Harriet commented on the lack of a 100% female cabinet yet?0
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She would never want a 100% female cabinet. She would fix at least one place for her husband - and then play the victim card about how hard done by she is.dyedwoolie said:Has Harriet commented on the lack of a 100% female cabinet yet?
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I was of course referring to Germany's consistent good performances all tournamentstate_go_away said:
I am of the thinking that teams only 'deserve to win' if they score more goals than the team they are playing -that's the only aim of football isn't it? the only exception was the play off final where I did sort of feel Derby 'deserved to win' against QPRSunil_Prasannan said:Haven't been on PB since the WC Final, but just thought that Germany plenty deserved to win
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Although my views aren't too dissimilar to those of Liam Fox he's not someone I'd want back - some things override politics.0
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From that article: Students who attend private schools tend to perform significantly better in the PISA assessments than students who attend public schools; but students in public schools in a similar socio-economic context as private schools tend to doSouthamObserver said:
But as PISA tells us, on a like for like basis the private sector in the UK under-performs the state sector:FalseFlag said:
Rote learning works though, it's why private schools use it still.BobaFett said:@PfP
You do not need to be able to rote repeat times tables to be numerate.
I could have worked it out but as I have a calculator next to me, I used that.
One of the big problems with old school teaching fans is their Luddism.
It's the same wasters who advocate focusing on handwriting over touch typing.
I can still remember at school when we weren't allowed to use word processors for our essays.
They caught up. Years later.
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisaproducts/pisainfocus/48482894.pdf
equally well.
A huge problem in cities is that private schools produce a vicious circle whereby the removal of the children from state schools by the higher socio-economic groups means the school performance gap widens, so more better-off children leave, so the gap widens, etc, etc.
Having a large slice of state school pupils parented by [what could pejoratively be termed] social detritus means everyone else gets dragged down, and dragged down hard.0 -
Dromey is an honorary sistahoxfordsimon said:
She would never want a 100% female cabinet. She would fix at least one place for her husband - and then play the victim card about how hard done by she is.dyedwoolie said:Has Harriet commented on the lack of a 100% female cabinet yet?
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Robert Buckland is new Solicitor General0
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Robert Buckland becomes Solicitor General. Swindon MP and Cameron loyalist. He has been on my list as someone for promotion.
Paul Maynard (Blackpool North) is another but nothing so far.0 -
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BETTING POST
One thing I think this reshuffle does do is make Dave's position ultra-secure:
Conservative Specials - David Cameron to be Tory Leader for the next UK General Election
William Hill 1-12 Nice 10% yield or so:
Fill your boots.
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And in the 9x table the digits in the answer always sum to 9 - 18, 27, 36, 45, etc...Anorak said:
Agreed. I still remember being astounded that the sum of the odd digits equals the sum of the even digits for all multiples of 11. [I later found out this applies to multiples of 9 in base 8, multiples of 17 in hexidecimal etc. This is, IMHO, pretty cool.].dyedwoolie said:
As well as parroting the tables, kids need to be taught pattern recognition and partial sum banking to help with trickier sums.Anorak said:For Boba, an article on why 7x8 is one of the trickiest sums in the times tables. Jolly interesting, and it explained why my wife and I felt like we were banging our head on the wall trying to teach our 7yo the 8 times table!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28143553
Edit: or the difference is a multiple of 11, 9, 17, etc. Obviously0