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Gulp, I agree with Dan Hodges
Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 49s
Liam Plunkett has just played the most stupid shot ever played by an England night-watchman.0 -
Think of the money we're going to trouser tomorrow.Scrapheap_as_was said:Nice one Liam, night watchman out like that.... in last over of the day....
You have to laugh, otherwise you'd cry.0 -
Don't leave it too late to arrive.TheScreamingEagles said:I might go to Headingley tomorrow, will be memorable to be there at the end of Alastair Cook's tenure as captain.
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£260 traded on Sri Lanka @ 32.0
£13091 traded on England at 1.20
Draw low 2.60, £26111 traded
Draw high 200, £7 traded.0 -
Quite so, but the analysis you would get from the Cityites such as Mr Nabavi is that we should put ourselves back in a situation where the economy has one huge egg in its basket. In reality for the City to be of benefit to us we need a better balanced economy which to date is not what HMG is producing.Charles said:
That's true, but the interpretation of the results could be faulty if you don't dig down further into the data.Alanbrooke said:
Numbers are numbers and that's the performance. The results aren't misleading, it's where we are.Charles said:
If you were to split those into financial and non-financial growth for each country it would be more meaningful.Socrates said:@Richard_Nabavi
I'm sure we look good compared to the slow motion car crash that is the Eurozone, but compare us to how we've done since 2008 to other developed economies:
Australia: +18%
New Zealand: +10%
Canada: +9%
Switzerland: +7%
United States: +7%
Norway: +5%
UK: -1%
Fundamentally, we have been through a secular decline in the size of the global financial sector. While this may well be a good thing in and of itself, to look at headline numbers without talking into account the relative weight of financial services produces a misleading result
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India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.0 -
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 6m
Average of Ashcroft National Poll 2nd June - 23rd June. CON 28% LAB 34% LDEM 8% UKIP 17%
William Hill go 4/7 LD, 5/4 UKIP in the match bet
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All the polls where LD and UKIP are close have comedy UKIP weightings. Hint: Populus.isam said:Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 6m
Average of Ashcroft National Poll 2nd June - 23rd June. CON 28% LAB 34% LDEM 8% UKIP 17%
William Hill go 4/7 LD, 5/4 UKIP in the match bet
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In the real elections a few weeks ago the conservatives beat the pollsters by almost 3% and Labour scored 2% less than the pollsters. I suspect that phenomenon to feature much mire strongly as we get closer to the real GE as long as the economy continues to do so well. UKIP will fade.OblitusSumMe said:
To be fair to those people they were only expecting to see the pattern that was seen last year, following the local elections. However, this time round everything has been different, and it's not obvious to me why.Mike Smithson said:A very large number of people predicted after the May 22nd elections that as we got closer to next May’s general election then UKIP’s totals would start to fade away.
Last year Labour flatlined after the local elections - this year they are moving modestly back up.
Last year the Conservatives recovered support lost to UKIP quite strongly - this year they are continuing to decline.
Last year UKIP fell back after the election limelight moved on - this year they are maintaining their support.
Last year it looked like the Lib Dems might flatline at around 10% in the polls for ever more - this year they are declining to new depths [perhaps Clegg's defeats to Farage in the debates have done lasting damage].
The Greens also seem to be maintaining a couple of extra percentage points compared to this time last year [perhaps winning more MEPs than the Lib Dems increased their credibility].0 -
I think projecting from Newark/the Euros to a GE is a tricky game.felix said:
In the real elections a few weeks ago the conservatives beat the pollsters by almost 3% and Labour scored 2% less than the pollsters. I suspect that phenomenon to feature much mire strongly as we get closer to the real GE as long as the economy continues to do so well. UKIP will fade.OblitusSumMe said:
To be fair to those people they were only expecting to see the pattern that was seen last year, following the local elections. However, this time round everything has been different, and it's not obvious to me why.Mike Smithson said:A very large number of people predicted after the May 22nd elections that as we got closer to next May’s general election then UKIP’s totals would start to fade away.
Last year Labour flatlined after the local elections - this year they are moving modestly back up.
Last year the Conservatives recovered support lost to UKIP quite strongly - this year they are continuing to decline.
Last year UKIP fell back after the election limelight moved on - this year they are maintaining their support.
Last year it looked like the Lib Dems might flatline at around 10% in the polls for ever more - this year they are declining to new depths [perhaps Clegg's defeats to Farage in the debates have done lasting damage].
The Greens also seem to be maintaining a couple of extra percentage points compared to this time last year [perhaps winning more MEPs than the Lib Dems increased their credibility].0 -
Do people just enjoy losing money backing England or something ?TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.0 -
I've just been watching England in the Test Series. Why don't we just stop pretending we are good at cricket and football and celebrate what we are good at; e.g. the arts?0
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Yes, but the way to achieve that is to grow the other parts of the economy not to squash the City. (Our best clients tend to be non-City... never been a fan of money-that-thinks-it-is-cleverer-than-it-is)Alanbrooke said:
Quite so, but the analysis you would get from the Cityites such as Mr Nabavi is that we should put ourselves back in a situation where the economy has one huge egg in its basket. In reality for the City to be of benefit to us we need a better balanced economy which to date is not what HMG is producing.Charles said:
That's true, but the interpretation of the results could be faulty if you don't dig down further into the data.Alanbrooke said:
Numbers are numbers and that's the performance. The results aren't misleading, it's where we are.Charles said:
If you were to split those into financial and non-financial growth for each country it would be more meaningful.Socrates said:@Richard_Nabavi
I'm sure we look good compared to the slow motion car crash that is the Eurozone, but compare us to how we've done since 2008 to other developed economies:
Australia: +18%
New Zealand: +10%
Canada: +9%
Switzerland: +7%
United States: +7%
Norway: +5%
UK: -1%
Fundamentally, we have been through a secular decline in the size of the global financial sector. While this may well be a good thing in and of itself, to look at headline numbers without talking into account the relative weight of financial services produces a misleading result0 -
Yes I agree with that, but the other sectors are so far behind, they need the policies to get them to accelerate development and so far they have been in short supply.Charles said:
Yes, but the way to achieve that is to grow the other parts of the economy not to squash the City. (Our best clients tend to be non-City... never been a fan of money-that-thinks-it-is-cleverer-than-it-is)Alanbrooke said:
Quite so, but the analysis you would get from the Cityites such as Mr Nabavi is that we should put ourselves back in a situation where the economy has one huge egg in its basket. In reality for the City to be of benefit to us we need a better balanced economy which to date is not what HMG is producing.Charles said:
That's true, but the interpretation of the results could be faulty if you don't dig down further into the data.Alanbrooke said:
Numbers are numbers and that's the performance. The results aren't misleading, it's where we are.Charles said:
If you were to split those into financial and non-financial growth for each country it would be more meaningful.Socrates said:@Richard_Nabavi
I'm sure we look good compared to the slow motion car crash that is the Eurozone, but compare us to how we've done since 2008 to other developed economies:
Australia: +18%
New Zealand: +10%
Canada: +9%
Switzerland: +7%
United States: +7%
Norway: +5%
UK: -1%
Fundamentally, we have been through a secular decline in the size of the global financial sector. While this may well be a good thing in and of itself, to look at headline numbers without talking into account the relative weight of financial services produces a misleading result0 -
Just left Headingley. Not going to forget today's play any time soon.0
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Why haven't UKIP gone away? Say PB Tories. Why hasn't the Labour lead gone away when Ed IS carp say PB Tories? But then they forget that most kippers really do think Dave is carp, have said so repeatedly and won't vote for hI'm again.
So Ed is carp and therefore a liability. But Dave is carp to UKIP voters and this isn't a liability at a'll as they will all come home.
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Cook is not impressing, but the question in this sort of situation is always: who else?DavidL said:Unless Plunkett gets his maiden 100 this match is all over. How on earth did this happen? Time for Cook to go?
One of the consequences of central contracts, etc, is that players who are picked out to play for the Test team don't have much chance of developing captaincy skills as captains of their county sides. I've no idea if Bell would be a better captain - was he ever captain of Warwickshire?0 -
"Heat & Repeat: Globe breaks May temperature record"
This could save on heating bills?
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England were so bad today that the crowd were standing up at the end of play to applaud the Sri Lankan players whilst ignoring the England batsman. Never seen that before. Plunkett's shot was one of the most abysmal of all time.0
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OblitusSumMe said:
Cook is not impressing, but the question in this sort of situation is always: who else?DavidL said:Unless Plunkett gets his maiden 100 this match is all over. How on earth did this happen? Time for Cook to go?
One of the consequences of central contracts, etc, is that players who are picked out to play for the Test team don't have much chance of developing captaincy skills as captains of their county sides. I've no idea if Bell would be a better captain - was he ever captain of Warwickshire?</blockquote
Cook needs to be sent back to his county, if he can remember where it is, and relearn how to bat. He simply does not deserve his place at the moment.
Plunkett has bowled well but needs his arse kicked for that piece of stupidity, it is simply not good enough.
I think Broad is the obvious captain but he really needs to take wickets more consistently. A second hat trick put him in the record books but no wickets in the second innings?
Bell is too quiet to be captain.
This team is a serious mess, still bearing all the scars of a horrendous winter and with not much sign of recovery.
Edit, not sure what happened there.0 -
I'm sure that the UUP thought that things would soon get back to normal before long after the 1970 general election when Ian Paisley defeated them in North Antrim.....0
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You spotted an English batsman? Are you sure?AndyJS said:England were so bad today that the crowd were standing up at the end of play to applaud the Sri Lankan players whilst ignoring the England batsman. Never seen that before. Plunkett's shot was one of the most abysmal of all time.
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Vote ukip get Labour. You know it's true.RochdalePioneers said:Why haven't UKIP gone away? Say PB Tories. Why hasn't the Labour lead gone away when Ed IS carp say PB Tories? But then they forget that most kippers really do think Dave is carp, have said so repeatedly and won't vote for hI'm again.
So Ed is carp and therefore a liability. But Dave is carp to UKIP voters and this isn't a liability at a'll as they will all come home.
Gotta love that logic
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Paul, don't worry! All those UUP voters came home! That's why the UUP run Ulster and the DUP are a long forgotten protest party.....0
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On a more positive note this World Cup is giving me great hope that Man U have chosen well on this occasion.-1
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@kevverage: If #indyref was business
Me: Cost?
FD: £200m
[2 wks later]
Me: OK £200m
FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
Me: ?
FD: *blushes*
Me: ?
FD: *resigns*0 -
We have already got Labour with heir to blair Cameron and May, so it won't make such difference. Another bunch of useless establishment types but at least this lot do care a bit about the less well off.perdix said:
Vote ukip get Labour. You know it's true.RochdalePioneers said:Why haven't UKIP gone away? Say PB Tories. Why hasn't the Labour lead gone away when Ed IS carp say PB Tories? But then they forget that most kippers really do think Dave is carp, have said so repeatedly and won't vote for hI'm again.
So Ed is carp and therefore a liability. But Dave is carp to UKIP voters and this isn't a liability at a'll as they will all come home.
Gotta love that logic
If that is the price of removing them so be it.0 -
I just found this on the last thread-stodge said:
One of the things I dislike about this site now is the way everyone feels the need to report anything and everything. Every time Andy Murray breathes there'll be some numpty putting up a line about it - yes, yes, I know all about in-running betting but you wouldn't do that off politicalbetting.com so what's the point ?
There's a poll and four people have to tell us about it - why ?
WTF is this Crap???? It's not like we're some sort of Jon Snow/Paxo ultimate combo broadsheet reading bubble people.0 -
I think projecting from opinion polls to a GE is somewhat trickier given what happened in the real elections last month.Pulpstar said:
I think projecting from Newark/the Euros to a GE is a tricky game.felix said:
In the real elections a few weeks ago the conservatives beat the pollsters by almost 3% and Labour scored 2% less than the pollsters. I suspect that phenomenon to feature much mire strongly as we get closer to the real GE as long as the economy continues to do so well. UKIP will fade.OblitusSumMe said:
To be fair to those people they were only expecting to see the pattern that was seen last year, following the local elections. However, this time round everything has been different, and it's not obvious to me why.Mike Smithson said:A very large number of people predicted after the May 22nd elections that as we got closer to next May’s general election then UKIP’s totals would start to fade away.
Last year Labour flatlined after the local elections - this year they are moving modestly back up.
Last year the Conservatives recovered support lost to UKIP quite strongly - this year they are continuing to decline.
Last year UKIP fell back after the election limelight moved on - this year they are maintaining their support.
Last year it looked like the Lib Dems might flatline at around 10% in the polls for ever more - this year they are declining to new depths [perhaps Clegg's defeats to Farage in the debates have done lasting damage].
The Greens also seem to be maintaining a couple of extra percentage points compared to this time last year [perhaps winning more MEPs than the Lib Dems increased their credibility].0 -
"Maybe things will start to get back to “normal” after the Scottish referendum and the party conferences. Maybe." Mike Smithson
UKIP being a major force in British politics is the new normal, Mike. You and many, many others had better get used to it.
Farage made a major speech today (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27973093) to the Institute for Government. In it he outlined his thoughts on direct democracy.0 -
I agree. That FD should certainly resign.Scott_P said:@kevverage: If #indyref was business
Me: Cost?
FD: £200m
[2 wks later]
Me: OK £200m
FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
Me: ?
FD: *blushes*
Me: ?
FD: *resigns*
But because s/he failed to spot the savings to be made on independence. How about 8.5% of HS2? £1.4K million (ie billion).
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It's an interesting point that you make. I've been trying to get my head around it because, as a rule, the Tories on here panic in similar circumstances. I suspect they think that the experience of the Euros makes them think Labour will slide back at election time. They may be right. We'll know in 300 or so days.RochdalePioneers said:Why haven't UKIP gone away? Say PB Tories. Why hasn't the Labour lead gone away when Ed IS carp say PB Tories? But then they forget that most kippers really do think Dave is carp, have said so repeatedly and won't vote for hI'm again.
So Ed is carp and therefore a liability. But Dave is carp to UKIP voters and this isn't a liability at a'll as they will all come home.
Gotta love that logic0 -
[But because s/he failed to spot the savings to be made on independence.]
WTF??? Wind farms and paintings will only get us so far. Vote continuity!!!! And why are all these old people on the Tv and on the internet spouting Yes?? They've suddenly decided to be rebels now that it only involves putting an X in a box - Pathetic.0 -
DavidL. You can certainly expect better from RVP next season.0
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What a pathetic year so far for England team sport,how the hell did England cricket team put a winning position into what looks like a defeat.
Captain cook up,as to be sacked as England captain ,take the pressure off him and make bell captain,all I saw of his captaincy for the last couple of days of him smiling and laughing in the slips,pathetic.0 -
No: because they were expected to pay for HSR in Scotland (under the devolution settlement) AND a whack of HSR on the Brum-London line (under the devolution ditto). So you see your logic, though understandable, is on shaky foundations thanks to unionist logic.Scott_P said:
So the SNP are abandoning High Speed Rail in Scotland?Carnyx said:
But because s/he failed to spot the savings to be made on independence. How about 8.5% of HS2? £1.4K million (ie billion).
Interesting. Another good reason to vote No...
Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there.
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[Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there]
Yeah!!! - Who doesn't have fun in the central belt?? World's most sectarian city versus the most boring standard city in the world. Isn't Scotland great???0 -
Well, even getting some of the way there on HS2 is something - and Scotland is a big place so improvements to rail links are a good idea by any standard, including electrification even if the lie of the land doesn't allow full HS2.Smarmeron said:@Scott_P
High Speed Rail would only make sense if Scotland were to connect to London, which seems unlikely at the moment yes or no.
I knew things were bad after Old Firm games, but are Sauciehall Street and the Gallowgate they really comparable to Baghdad those days?!JBriskin said:[Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there]
Yeah!!! - Who doesn't have fun in the central belt?? World's most sectarian city versus the most boring standard city in the world. Isn't Scotland great???
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Boba/Rochdale
William Hague said that Tories have two gears: panic and complacency! As things stanf Ed will be PM and UKIP will do well but probably won't win a seat. The needle is not moving away from Labour. It may be true that voters don't vote for poor leaders but David Cameron is hardly setting the world on fire. It's likely that Farage's charisma will dominate the GE. It depends on his narrative. If it is Labour bashig, Tories have a chance. But why would it be.
Tories have to be more than 7% ahead and on 40% minimum to get a majority. After 2 years of pools that don't say this even at local/european election time, it simply ain't possible.0 -
Given it was - I gather - mistakenly specified to heavy rail standards by the Labour administration, there is more truth in your jest than you perhaps know. But no, the tram stops aren't big enough ... and besides the tram does need extending but in the other directions (and with proper project control this time, now a lot of the groundwork has been done).Neil said:
Cant they just extend the tram?Carnyx said:
Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there.
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Wasn't a recession, it was a substantial banking collapse and our bounce back has been superior to most prior and current examples for which the Conservatives and Lib Dems deserve enormous credit.Socrates said:
Anyone that studies economics knows there's a bounce-back effect from recessions. It's fairly easy to get back to where you started. It's growth beyond that level that is difficult.Richard_Nabavi said:
2008? Yes, quite. Good though Osborne is, he doesn't have a time-machine, allowing him to go back and start undoing Labour's mess before he came into office.Socrates said:@Richard_Nabavi
I'm sure we look good compared to the slow motion car crash that is the Eurozone, but compare us to how we've done since 2008 to other developed economies:
Australia: +18%
New Zealand: +10%
Canada: +9%
Switzerland: +7%
United States: +7%
Norway: +5%
UK: -1%
As I said, Osborne inherited the worst economic position of any major economy and the worst deficit in Europe apart from Greece. His opponents, and especially Labour, said he'd wreck the recovery with his gentle rebalancing of the public finances. In fact we are doing particularly well. If voters want to reverse that progress, well, that's up to them.
I actually think Osborne's done a reasonable job. It's just not the miracle that you claim it is. The rebalancing of the public financing was needed, he just did it too soon. The recovery has also been too dependent on consumption rather than investment.0 -
You aren't listening. Dependence, we pay 1.4 billion to help London get to Brum quicker. Independence, we don't. That is absolutely independent (to coin a phrase) of what we do in Scotland.Scott_P said:
Right, but they are going to build it at zero cost?Carnyx said:
Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there.
No, so your "savings' on high speed rail are mythical, like all the SNP fiscal plans.
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I've been punched in Gallowgate - admittedly a different one from which you are probably referring. Only so many times you can be punched in Scotland and decide that No is best.
For the record - Ms Briskin states that Edinburgh is exciting, sounds like F-ing Noo York from her enthusiaiam.0 -
By the way, may I inquire what 'standard' means in this context? Just wondering ...JBriskin said:[Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there]
Yeah!!! - Who doesn't have fun in the central belt?? World's most sectarian city versus the most boring standard city in the world. Isn't Scotland great???
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Neither saw their banking system collapse, Europe and the UK were even worse hit than the US.Socrates said:
Canada's economy is 79.6% services. Australia's economy is 74.5% services.Smarmeron said:@Morris_Dancer
"And less reliance on the "service sector" than the UK."
It is our reliance on these things that makes booms and busts more severe than for other nations.0 -
I have limited experience of the place - I was merely searching for a multi word prerogative statement. You caught me.Carnyx said:
By the way, may I inquire what 'standard' means in this context? Just wondering ...JBriskin said:[Actually, they're quite interested in HSR between Edinburgh and Glasgow and working outwards from there]
Yeah!!! - Who doesn't have fun in the central belt?? World's most sectarian city versus the most boring standard city in the world. Isn't Scotland great???
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The Gallowgate I have in mind is the one that comes off the Saltmarket which has Celtic pubs. North of Glasgow Green. It is admittedly not a good area for drunken Rangers fans to have an Unionist march on the spur of the moment as some did recently. Not that I am suggesting that that is what you were doing, of course.JBriskin said:I've been punched in Gallowgate - admittedly a different one from which you are probably referring. Only so many times you can be punched in Scotland and decide that No is best.
For the record - Ms Briskin states that Edinburgh is exciting, sounds like F-ing Noo York from her enthusiaiam.
Edinburgh is actually a wee bit different from NYC. On the other hand, both do have central parks right in the middle ...
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And you still can't count.Carnyx said:
You aren't listening.
The UK pays for High Speed Rail, wherever it is built. That would include a line between Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Or a separate Scotland pays for High Speed Rail in Scotland, which costs at least as much as the Scottish contribution to UK projects.
A separate Scotland doesn't save any money on High Speed Rail, unless they don't build any.0 -
I pointed out: transport and rail investment are already devolved. So your logic falls. (Unless there is a special measure to extend HS2 to Scotland, using "UK" moneys, which we'd all love to hear about.)Scott_P said:
And you still can't count.Carnyx said:
You aren't listening.
The UK pays for High Speed Rail, wherever it is built. That would include a line between Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Or a separate Scotland pays for High Speed Rail in Scotland, which costs at least as much as the Scottish contribution to UK projects.
A separate Scotland doesn't save any money on High Speed Rail, unless they don't build any.
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Isn't it the case that under the Barnet Formula, Scotland gets a percentage of expenditure on infrastructure spent in England? In which case Scotland gets money if it is built.Carnyx said:
I agree. That FD should certainly resign.Scott_P said:@kevverage: If #indyref was business
Me: Cost?
FD: £200m
[2 wks later]
Me: OK £200m
FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
Me: ?
FD: *blushes*
Me: ?
FD: *resigns*
But because s/he failed to spot the savings to be made on independence. How about 8.5% of HS2? £1.4K million (ie billion).
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Farage's thoughts on policy are either purely self-serving or opportunistic.MikeK said:"Maybe things will start to get back to “normal” after the Scottish referendum and the party conferences. Maybe." Mike Smithson
UKIP being a major force in British politics is the new normal, Mike. You and many, many others had better get used to it.
Farage made a major speech today (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27973093) to the Institute for Government. In it he outlined his thoughts on direct democracy.
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[Not that I am suggesting that that is what you were doing, of course.]
I wasn't referring to Glasgow. I was referring to somewhere else in Scotland at a time I was a teenager. For all Chavs charms - there comes a time, for me certainly, where you give up and stick to watching footy and posting on PB. Make of this what you want.0 -
PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
http://media.newschoolers.com/uploads/images/17/00/61/66/39/616639.jpeg0 -
[Though I still wonder what he did to rile the natives.]
Probably had a Waterstones bag.
For the record - I F-ing love this song-
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Unlike the Coalition's "more Lords for Tories and the Lib Dems to reflect the popular vote, but none for UKIP"...perdix said:
Farage's thoughts on policy are either purely self-serving or opportunistic.MikeK said:"Maybe things will start to get back to “normal” after the Scottish referendum and the party conferences. Maybe." Mike Smithson
UKIP being a major force in British politics is the new normal, Mike. You and many, many others had better get used to it.
Farage made a major speech today (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27973093) to the Institute for Government. In it he outlined his thoughts on direct democracy.0 -
Actually, that's a good point, and would normally be valid. But a lot of spending is excluded - such as London sewerage refurbishment I believe. HS2 is just such a case as it is deemed of national [sic = UK] importance so Barnett is not involved, as I recall from a big row between Wales and London last autumn. It is just possible the situation has changed but a quick look doesn't seem to suggest it has.perdix said:
Isn't it the case that under the Barnet Formula, Scotland gets a percentage of expenditure on infrastructure spent in England? In which case Scotland gets money if it is built.Carnyx said:
I agree. That FD should certainly resign.Scott_P said:@kevverage: If #indyref was business
Me: Cost?
FD: £200m
[2 wks later]
Me: OK £200m
FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
Me: ?
FD: *blushes*
Me: ?
FD: *resigns*
But because s/he failed to spot the savings to be made on independence. How about 8.5% of HS2? £1.4K million (ie billion).0 -
Known as getting your retaliation in first.Smarmeron said:@JBriskin
You need to learn the noble art of Yuk Foo.....
The principles are defined as being "Do unto others, before they remotely consider doing unto you.
(lessons at reduced rates midweek)
Dundee perhaps?JBriskin said:[Not that I am suggesting that that is what you were doing, of course.]
I wasn't referring to Glasgow. I was referring to somewhere else in Scotland at a time I was a teenager. For all Chavs charms - there comes a time, for me certainly, where you give up and stick to watching footy and posting on PB. Make of this what you want.
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England team v Costa Rica: Foster, Jones, Cahill, Smalling, Shaw, Wilshere, Lallana, Milner, Lampard, Barkley, Sturridge
Have you seen the defence,all I will say is - God help us ;-)0 -
Nothing is ever that bad.TheScreamingEagles said:
This afternoon I was thinking "even Jade Dernbach might be an improvement on our team" that's how bad it got.
Give your head a wobble, lad!
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It does save money if it stops others spending it for their own projects. I agree. But where does that money come from in the first place? My pocket, and so on and so forth.Scott_P said:
...funded by the UK exchequer.Carnyx said:
I pointed out: transport and rail investment are already devolved.
Scotland only 'saves' rail investment money if it stops spending any.
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Long time no see ;-) for a moment I thought you nothing to complain about and you must be enjoying the coalition ;-)compouter2 said:PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
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In fact India are 5/2 with Betway (see Oddschecker). I cant believe they have England as short as 0.65/1 .TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.
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Tyke - indeed. Time for Cook to go. Not only has he lost the ability to bat he has shown not a shred of evidence that he has any tactical nous whatsoever.Tykejohnno said:What a pathetic year so far for England team sport,how the hell did England cricket team put a winning position into what looks like a defeat.
Captain cook up,as to be sacked as England captain ,take the pressure off him and make bell captain,all I saw of his captaincy for the last couple of days of him smiling and laughing in the slips,pathetic.0 -
On a more positive note, Stokes took 7-67 in a county match today.GeoffM said:
Nothing is ever that bad.TheScreamingEagles said:
This afternoon I was thinking "even Jade Dernbach might be an improvement on our team" that's how bad it got.
Give your head a wobble, lad!
How long before the ECB come out with "we are focussing on the World Cup" as the excuse for an under-performing test team?
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Will do.GeoffM said:
Nothing is ever that bad.TheScreamingEagles said:
This afternoon I was thinking "even Jade Dernbach might be an improvement on our team" that's how bad it got.
Give your head a wobble, lad!
I'll have an early night tonight.
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Good spot.peter_from_putney said:
In fact India are 5/2 with Betway (see Oddschecker). I cant believe they have England as short as 0.65/1 .TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.
I think the football has shown we do have some patriotic punters.
I'm just an unsentimental bastard.
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Re: my previous posts - Suarez is now 8/11 to leave Liverpool this summer,and evens to stay (both with SkyBet).
So the odds on his leaving have more than halved since I first suggested this bet at 6/4 three days ago.0 -
Glad I bet on a level or crossover Poll and not a crossover poll. Won't happen (Yougov) in Q2 now.compouter2 said:PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
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Because as I understand it Westminster is also giving money from a special grant outwith the Barnett formula. Don't ask me why. I can't understand why cockney sharn and MPs' ***** is so expensive/special/difficult that needs special provision.Neil said:
That is to be paid for by Thames Water customers .. why would the Barnett Formula come into it?Carnyx said:
But a lot of spending is excluded - such as London sewerage refurbishment I believe
(The last time I looked at it was some months ago, so it's possible that I am wrong and that the situation has changed, but I think I would have noticed - and it would have been trumpeted by the No side in indyref.)
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Ah London sewers requiring huge expansion to deal with the foreign influx at my expense. Another wonderful benefit to mass immigration...Neil said:
That is to be paid for by Thames Water customers .. why would the Barnett Formula come into it?Carnyx said:
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Presumably about 12 months after Scotland votes No it would be a good time to fix the Barnett formula.0
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The test prices have been just so wrong today - way more than the football I thinkTheScreamingEagles said:
Good spot.peter_from_putney said:
In fact India are 5/2 with Betway (see Oddschecker). I cant believe they have England as short as 0.65/1 .TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.
I think the football has shown we do have some patriotic punters.
I'm just an unsentimental bastard.0 -
I believe muslim poo is stinkier too.Socrates said:
Ah London sewers requiring huge expansion to deal with the foreign influx at my expense. Another wonderful benefit to mass immigration...Neil said:
That is to be paid for by Thames Water customers .. why would the Barnett Formula come into it?Carnyx said:
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Me too. There's no room for sentimentality in betting.TheScreamingEagles said:
Good spot.peter_from_putney said:
In fact India are 5/2 with Betway (see Oddschecker). I cant believe they have England as short as 0.65/1 .TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.
I think the football has shown we do have some patriotic punters.
I'm just an unsentimental bastard.0 -
Me three - same goes for political betting - couldn't give a toss who runs the country so long as I make a profit from it.peter_from_putney said:
Me too. There's no room for sentimentality in betting.TheScreamingEagles said:
Good spot.peter_from_putney said:
In fact India are 5/2 with Betway (see Oddschecker). I cant believe they have England as short as 0.65/1 .TheScreamingEagles said:India are 2/1 to beat England in the Test Series later on this summer.
Fill yer fecking boots.
I think the football has shown we do have some patriotic punters.
I'm just an unsentimental bastard.
Still reckon Labour Minority.0 -
Nah, thought I would give Basil a break and been doing some of the lifting. Ed is still crap. Labour is still ahead tick tock tick tock.Tykejohnno said:
Long time no see ;-) for a moment I thought you nothing to complain about and you must be enjoying the coalition ;-)compouter2 said:PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
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Got enough opiates for the moment ?compouter2 said:
Nah, thought I would give Basil a break and been doing some of the lifting. Ed is still crap. Labour is still ahead tick tock tick tock.Tykejohnno said:
Long time no see ;-) for a moment I thought you nothing to complain about and you must be enjoying the coalition ;-)compouter2 said:PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
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It's only worth winning lots of money on a Labour govt happening if you can get the cash offshore quickly enough afterwards.Pulpstar said:
Me three - same goes for political betting - couldn't give a toss who runs the country so long as I make a profit from it.
Still reckon Labour Minority.
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About three years worth, I will need them.Pulpstar said:
Got enough opiates for the moment ?compouter2 said:
Nah, thought I would give Basil a break and been doing some of the lifting. Ed is still crap. Labour is still ahead tick tock tick tock.Tykejohnno said:
Long time no see ;-) for a moment I thought you nothing to complain about and you must be enjoying the coalition ;-)compouter2 said:PB Hodges rumble on about Ed being crap. Labour continues to lead in the opinion polls, and Basil is effing knackered. Two days off since March 2012 he's had, he's keeping GlaxoSmithKline going with the amount of tramadol he's been using.
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Hah tbh I see it as a hedge of sorts ^_~GeoffM said:
It's only worth winning lots of money on a Labour govt happening if you can get the cash offshore quickly enough afterwards.Pulpstar said:
Me three - same goes for political betting - couldn't give a toss who runs the country so long as I make a profit from it.
Still reckon Labour Minority.
Been doing some nice constituency dutching between the realistic challengers recently. I'll be interested to see what the makeup of my p&l is on GE night.0 -
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PB Hodges seem to have polling brewers droop?0 -
I said it the other day, back Costa Rica, Roy has announced the team play Costa Rica.
Time to go balls deep on Costa Rica
On Monday he named his starting lineup, with Gary Cahill and Daniel Sturridge the only survivors from last week’s 2-1 defeat by Uruguay.
England XI Ben Foster, Phil Jones, Gary Cahill, Chris Smalling, Luke Shaw, James Milner, Frank Lampard, Jack Wilshere, Ross Barkley, Adam Lallana, Daniel Sturridge.
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"Time to go balls deep on Costa Rica".....UHHH!0
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Sleazy broken Labour on the slide
Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 8s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour ahead by four points: CON 32%, LAB 36%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%0 -
saddened We do not win all the time in the arts either, after all we do not always sweep the Oscars. We are a mid-ranking nation of 60 million, we are not a superpower, only 2 years ago we had a fantastic Olympics, only a few years ago we won the Ashes and 11 years ago the Rugby World Cup. Our football team more often than not does not come up trumps, but virtually every nation on earth plays soccer, we have 1 one world cup and the Premier League remains world class0
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Tonights Populus
LAB 354 CON 249 LD 21 Others 26 (UKPR)
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We were lucky then that Labour worked so hard to rebalance the economy in those 13 years in office.....Smarmeron said:@Morris_Dancer
"And less reliance on the "service sector" than the UK."
It is our reliance on these things that makes booms and busts more severe than for other nations.
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