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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,875
    ISIS destroys artefacts at Mosul Museum, including winged Assyrian Bull
    https://twitter.com/DioscorusBoles
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited June 2014
    Socrates said:

    @isam

    Cameron not only wants open door immigration from the EU. He wants to expand that open access to 74 million Turks.

    I think pretty much anyone in current British politics would do this (although the French and Greeks would have the opportunity and the motive to stop it). You'd imagine whatever deal the UK made if it left the EU to retain access to the market would uphold freedom of movement with the EU.

    The key difference under "out" would be that the UK's signature would no longer be required on the treaty that let Turkey in, so the British wouldn't be able to tinker around with transition controls and things.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,118
    AndyJS said:

    Is Yokel around?

    "Sunni rebels in Iraq say they have fully captured the country's main oil refinery at Baiji, north of Baghdad."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27990478

    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=baiji&tbm=nws
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    There were some reports earlier that ISIS has control of a dam which provides a large proportion of Iraq's electricity.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,875
    Sunil Seems he had a fallout with the leadership over funding for his researchers, but he is the only FF MEP
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    Danny565 said:

    I'm still beyond confused at Labour's mini-resurgence in the polls. I suppose the prospect of another Tory govt meant some complacent lefties/working-class people got scared and returned from the Greens and UKIP.

    About right, I think: the press turning up the electoral heat has concentrated minds. Labour voters' flirtation with UKIP in particular was often later and milder than Tory voters' flirtation. Tory->UKIP defectors often think UKIP is actually right about a lot of things, while Labour-UKIP defectors at the Euros mostly enjoyed shaking things up, but don't really feel a natural bond with Nigel Farage and his party.

    I chatted at the weekend with the main local UKIP organiser - he won't be standing himself but expects a candidate soon. He's not especially anti-immigration himself, just very anti-EU and also quite anti-Tory in the same way that Greens are sometimes quite anti-Labour - they feel the moderate version of the ideas just spoils the pitch for the real reformers.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,118
    HYUFD said:

    Sunil Seems he had a fallout with the leadership over funding for his researchers, but he is the only FF MEP

    Hmmm... looks like the ALDE collapse didn't just affect the UK LibDems then!
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Danny565 said:

    I'm still beyond confused at Labour's mini-resurgence in the polls. I suppose the prospect of another Tory govt meant some complacent lefties/working-class people got scared and returned from the Greens and UKIP.

    About right, I think: the press turning up the electoral heat has concentrated minds. Labour voters' flirtation with UKIP in particular was often later and milder than Tory voters' flirtation. Tory->UKIP defectors often think UKIP is actually right about a lot of things, while Labour-UKIP defectors at the Euros mostly enjoyed shaking things up, but don't really feel a natural bond with Nigel Farage and his party.

    I chatted at the weekend with the main local UKIP organiser - he won't be standing himself but expects a candidate soon. He's not especially anti-immigration himself, just very anti-EU and also quite anti-Tory in the same way that Greens are sometimes quite anti-Labour - they feel the moderate version of the ideas just spoils the pitch for the real reformers.
    I think you are kidding yourself
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312

    Taking on the BBC would also be a risk but bear in mind the BBC loves nothing more than a story about the BBC. It would also make it easier for UKIP to call out any perceived anti-UKIP bias.

    My hatred for the BBC knows no bounds.

    Perhaps UKIP could launch an anti-child abuse campaign. I suspect there would plenty of compromised individuals in all three major parties and we already know just some of those in the BBC.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,118
    AndyJS said:

    There were some reports earlier that ISIS has control of a dam which provides a large proportion of Iraq's electricity.

    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dam+iraq&tbm=nws
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,875
    Sunil Indeed, night
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    There were some reports earlier that ISIS has control of a dam which provides a large proportion of Iraq's electricity.

    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dam+iraq&tbm=nws
    Thanks.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,000
    Scott_P said:

    @kevverage: If #indyref was business

    Me: Cost?
    FD: £200m

    [2 wks later]
    Me: OK £200m
    FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
    Me: ?
    FD: *blushes*
    Me: ?
    FD: *resigns*

    Do yourself a favour - at least read the executive summary and learn the difference between transition costs and investment costs.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    Love this spin about how Cameron has "won agreement for a vote" on Juncker. The procedure is, anyone can ask for a vote and you have one. Austria asked for this one a week ago because they were sick of Cameron trying to delay things.

    http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27988091
  • I am in mental turmoil after today's cricket. I really cannot see how Cook can stay as England captain, but can't really see a sensible alternative. Jimmy Anderson looked utterly shot to pieces as a Test bowler by tea and Jordan looked like he could bowl all day without taking a wicket. Plunkett was easily the pick of the bowlers but that shot...

    I'm glad I have tickets for the first day at Old Trafford. England playing like this won't last more than 3 against India.

    And tonight we have the unedifying spectacle of an England manager granting a testimonial to a player in a World Cup dead rubber.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Smarmeron said:
    The Scottish connection is tenuous. Liverpool was the "home port" of the Confederacy. Bulloch lived and died there. The Confederate Embassy in the UK was there (still standing), as were their bankers, Fraser Trenholme Ltd. The first shots of the Civil War were fired with guns made in Liverpool by Fawcett's. CSS Florida and CSS Alabama were built on Merseyside. The last surrender of the Civil War occurred 6 months after Appomattox, when the CSS Shenandoah sailed up the Mersey to surrender to the Lord Mayor of Liverpool...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    sarissa said:

    Scott_P said:

    @kevverage: If #indyref was business

    Me: Cost?
    FD: £200m

    [2 wks later]
    Me: OK £200m
    FD: *coughs* & £900m on IT
    Me: ?
    FD: *blushes*
    Me: ?
    FD: *resigns*

    Do yourself a favour - at least read the executive summary and learn the difference between transition costs and investment costs.
    Both are "costs" aren't they?
  • I am in mental turmoil after today's cricket. I really cannot see how Cook can stay as England captain, but can't really see a sensible alternative. Jimmy Anderson looked utterly shot to pieces as a Test bowler by tea and Jordan looked like he could bowl all day without taking a wicket. Plunkett was easily the pick of the bowlers but that shot...

    I'm glad I have tickets for the first day at Old Trafford. England playing like this won't last more than 3 against India.

    And tonight we have the unedifying spectacle of an England manager granting a testimonial to a player in a World Cup dead rubber.

    Welcome back Mr Fletcher - once one of PB's best and most prolific posters in your various guises. Here's hoping you'll stay around this time.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,030

    There's a shocking poll for the LDs coming...

    When Mike?
    I'm hoping for it to be published in the next 24 hours. The Tories are the biggest losers.

    Tell us something about the poll Mike...


    I'll get my coat.
  • JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    I am concerned about the impertinence of the magistrate Emma Arbuthnot, who seems to think that she is entitled to order Paul Gadd not to wear sunglasses in court. Whether he needs them for medical reasons or not, it cannot be interpreted by any reasonable person as interfering with the business of the court process, or of being in any way disruptive or disrespectful. Hopefully she will learn to mind her own business before the next hearing.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/gary-glitter-warned-not-to-wear-sunglasses-in-court-as-he-is-sent-for-trial-on-sex-charges-9548978.html
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,336
    JohnLoony said:

    I am concerned about the impertinence of the magistrate Emma Arbuthnot, who seems to think that she is entitled to order Paul Gadd not to wear sunglasses in court. Whether he needs them for medical reasons or not, it cannot be interpreted by any reasonable person as interfering with the business of the court process, or of being in any way disruptive or disrespectful. Hopefully she will learn to mind her own business before the next hearing.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/gary-glitter-warned-not-to-wear-sunglasses-in-court-as-he-is-sent-for-trial-on-sex-charges-9548978.html

    I would genuinely disagree. They are routinely used to conceal emotional states and that is a very relevant issue in any court of law.

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