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What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.2
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18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.1 -
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
Anybody would think all those 10,000s of hotel rooms near airports are rammed full or something.MaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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Richard/Francis.Richard_Nabavi said:
Quite. It's surely inconceivable that anyone would do a data weeding operation without first taking a backup, and indeed that that there wouldn't be multiple backups at multiple points in time. At least, it should be inconceivable.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have no backup of this information at all?TheScreamingEagles said:More than 400,000 fingerprint, DNA, arrest and offence records may have been wiped from police databases following a technology blunder, The Times has learnt.
A letter to chief constables today revealed that the software error which deleted crucial evidence from the Police National Computer [PNC] could be far worse than first thought.
The arrest records were accidentally deleted during a weekly “weeding” session to expunge data from the PNC, which is owned and operated by the Home Office. DNA and fingerprint records were also removed because the databases holding them were connected to the PNC.
Naveed Malik, the NPCC’s lead for PNC, revealed to chiefs and police and crime commissioners today that 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error from the system.
There could be overlap of information between these records as an individual’s arrest record could relate to multiple offences.
Mr Malik went on to reveal that around 26,000 DNA records relating to 21,710 people had potentially been deleted in error, alongside a further 30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records.
The government has said there is no risk to public safety since The Times revealed the breach today.
However Mr Malik’s letter said the deleted DNA records included some that had “previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences”.
There have already been crimefighting implications since last week’s blunder, amid fears that offenders could go free because biometric evidence left at crime scenes will not be flagged up on the PNC.
Mr Malik said that police were already aware of at least one instance where the DNA profile from a suspect in custody did not generate a match to a crime scene as expected, “potentially impeding the investigation of the individual’s involvement in the crime”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/home-office-data-wipe-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-0hsrb7mvn
My suspicion is that this was a rush job related to the purging of 40,000 EU related data records that the police had no right to following the Brexit deal.
Given they had to do this in just under a week, I suspect they messed it up, not only did they have to delete it, they had to delete all back ups.0 -
Thank youStocky said:
Not quite - as people can enter the country with a negative PCR test (or equivalent) and must also self-isolate 10 days (5 days with a further negative test).Big_G_NorthWales said:
Is it correct to say we have closed our borders like NZ did at the beginning of the crisisStocky said:
All of Europe was already off the corridor list I think (maybe not Norway and Finland).Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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Boris closes the stable door 10 months after the horses have left. If he had done it when NZ did it we might now be looking at a few hundred deaths instead of 100,000.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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If I have it right, this database is run by the Home Office not the police, and is called NDNAD. Though individual records are owned by Police Forces.Richard_Nabavi said:
Quite. It's surely inconceivable that anyone would do a data weeding operation without first taking a backup, and indeed that that there wouldn't be multiple backups at multiple points in time. At least, it should be inconceivable.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have no backup of this information at all?TheScreamingEagles said:More than 400,000 fingerprint, DNA, arrest and offence records may have been wiped from police databases following a technology blunder, The Times has learnt.
A letter to chief constables today revealed that the software error which deleted crucial evidence from the Police National Computer [PNC] could be far worse than first thought.
The arrest records were accidentally deleted during a weekly “weeding” session to expunge data from the PNC, which is owned and operated by the Home Office. DNA and fingerprint records were also removed because the databases holding them were connected to the PNC.
Naveed Malik, the NPCC’s lead for PNC, revealed to chiefs and police and crime commissioners today that 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error from the system.
There could be overlap of information between these records as an individual’s arrest record could relate to multiple offences.
Mr Malik went on to reveal that around 26,000 DNA records relating to 21,710 people had potentially been deleted in error, alongside a further 30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records.
The government has said there is no risk to public safety since The Times revealed the breach today.
However Mr Malik’s letter said the deleted DNA records included some that had “previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences”.
There have already been crimefighting implications since last week’s blunder, amid fears that offenders could go free because biometric evidence left at crime scenes will not be flagged up on the PNC.
Mr Malik said that police were already aware of at least one instance where the DNA profile from a suspect in custody did not generate a match to a crime scene as expected, “potentially impeding the investigation of the individual’s involvement in the crime”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/home-office-data-wipe-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-0hsrb7mvn0 -
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
chuckles but you are a man women seem to like that sort of thingStocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
There's a reason some things only work in print.Stocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
Do they? Any women PBers to advise??Pagan2 said:
chuckles but you are a man women seem to like that sort of thingStocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
Seems unlikely. Cases were already well on the way up at that point.anothernick said:
Boris closes the stable door 10 months after the horses have left. If he had done it when NZ did it we might now be looking at a few hundred deaths instead of 100,000.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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Great argument except that the need (or at least the likely need) to purge 40,000 EU related records has been known about for over 2 years.TheScreamingEagles said:
Richard/Francis.Richard_Nabavi said:
Quite. It's surely inconceivable that anyone would do a data weeding operation without first taking a backup, and indeed that that there wouldn't be multiple backups at multiple points in time. At least, it should be inconceivable.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have no backup of this information at all?TheScreamingEagles said:More than 400,000 fingerprint, DNA, arrest and offence records may have been wiped from police databases following a technology blunder, The Times has learnt.
A letter to chief constables today revealed that the software error which deleted crucial evidence from the Police National Computer [PNC] could be far worse than first thought.
The arrest records were accidentally deleted during a weekly “weeding” session to expunge data from the PNC, which is owned and operated by the Home Office. DNA and fingerprint records were also removed because the databases holding them were connected to the PNC.
Naveed Malik, the NPCC’s lead for PNC, revealed to chiefs and police and crime commissioners today that 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error from the system.
There could be overlap of information between these records as an individual’s arrest record could relate to multiple offences.
Mr Malik went on to reveal that around 26,000 DNA records relating to 21,710 people had potentially been deleted in error, alongside a further 30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records.
The government has said there is no risk to public safety since The Times revealed the breach today.
However Mr Malik’s letter said the deleted DNA records included some that had “previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences”.
There have already been crimefighting implications since last week’s blunder, amid fears that offenders could go free because biometric evidence left at crime scenes will not be flagged up on the PNC.
Mr Malik said that police were already aware of at least one instance where the DNA profile from a suspect in custody did not generate a match to a crime scene as expected, “potentially impeding the investigation of the individual’s involvement in the crime”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/home-office-data-wipe-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-0hsrb7mvn
My suspicion is that this was a rush job related to the purging of 40,000 EU related data records that the police had no right to following the Brexit deal.
Given they had to do this in just under a week, I suspect they messed it up, not only did they have to delete it, they had to delete all back ups.
I.e. this is a screw up that shouldn't have occurred.0 -
Why is Boris banging on (at least twice now) about virus spread by touching surfaces and objects? I thought packaging and fomites had been found innocent early on. Has there been new research?0
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you should @ cyclefree maybeStocky said:
Do they? Any women PBers to advise??Pagan2 said:
chuckles but you are a man women seem to like that sort of thingStocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?0 -
Johnson going on about contact transmission - is that still regarded as critical?
I thought airborne transmission was seen as the key vector?0 -
Indeed and the best words to useStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.
I LOVE YOU
And
YOU ARE SO SPECIAL
And
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
xoxo
and here in Wales I would add
CARIAD
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It's not even really closed because we allow self certified quarantine. We essentially assume people will be honest.anothernick said:
Boris closes the stable door 10 months after the horses have left. If he had done it when NZ did it we might now be looking at a few hundred deaths instead of 100,000.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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Tell you what, I'd advise against going for '18 years, and no remission for good behaviour'.Stocky said:
18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.2 -
Loving you is like pissing my pants, everyone can see it but only I can feel the warmth.Stocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Or 'I want to be your favourite hello and your hardest goodbye.'
But I've got some awesome Valentine's Day messages, but it isn't the lagershed yet.
You are talking to the guy who promised his then girlfriend for Valentine's Day something no other woman had ever received in the history of Valentine's Day, so on Valentine's Day I gave her a bottle of toilet duck.3 -
If I may interject here. Don't use the 'asked the universe' thing, it made me queasy. Also maybe avoid 'with all best wishes etc'.Stocky said:
Do they? Any women PBers to advise??Pagan2 said:
chuckles but you are a man women seem to like that sort of thingStocky said:
Jeez - I feel sick. That`s worse.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Women just like things that are genuine, so make sure it sounds like something you would actually say!
Not judging you at all, this is the sort of thing that I might well have googled as well.
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The second wave can definitely be attributed to a rubbish travel and quarantine process.RobD said:
Seems unlikely. Cases were already well on the way up at that point.anothernick said:
Boris closes the stable door 10 months after the horses have left. If he had done it when NZ did it we might now be looking at a few hundred deaths instead of 100,000.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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If our marriage was a child, it would now be able to vote, get a tattoo and open a bank account in its own name. Loved every single year of it with you. Here's to the next 18.Stocky said:
18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.
And give her a big kiss on the bottom.
OF THE CARD.4 -
Well, with all that demand gone, rents should fall, which would be good news.FrancisUrquhart said:
I never said the two were connected. Just saying London has lost a lot of people and now extra costs incoming for those that still live / work there.Northern_Al said:
Because of transport costs and the congestion charge, obviously. Nothing to do with house prices and rental costs. Or all the Europeans and other migrants working in hospitality returning home because the hotels and the Prets are shedding labour.FrancisUrquhart said:Drivers face £5.50 daily charge to enter London and Canary Wharf could move into zone one under TfL plans.
Other proposals to solve cash crisis include cutting bus services, increasing fares and delaying the reopening of the Night Tube
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/driver-550-daily-charge-greater-london-tube-zones-b899871.html
700k people have left London in the past year.0 -
Yeah, I agree with that.MaxPB said:
The second wave can definitely be attributed to a rubbish travel and quarantine process.RobD said:
Seems unlikely. Cases were already well on the way up at that point.anothernick said:
Boris closes the stable door 10 months after the horses have left. If he had done it when NZ did it we might now be looking at a few hundred deaths instead of 100,000.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So every flight into the UK from anywhere in the world including all europe is a surprise but sensible NZ style policyStocky said:
? What it says.CarlottaVance said:What does this "all travel corridors will close from Monday 4am" mean?
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Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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The weekend before the deal the papers had stories saying we'd have mini deals in the event of No Deal to cover stuff like this.eek said:
Great argument except that the need (or at least the likely need) to purge 40,000 EU related records has been known about for over 2 years.TheScreamingEagles said:
Richard/Francis.Richard_Nabavi said:
Quite. It's surely inconceivable that anyone would do a data weeding operation without first taking a backup, and indeed that that there wouldn't be multiple backups at multiple points in time. At least, it should be inconceivable.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have no backup of this information at all?TheScreamingEagles said:More than 400,000 fingerprint, DNA, arrest and offence records may have been wiped from police databases following a technology blunder, The Times has learnt.
A letter to chief constables today revealed that the software error which deleted crucial evidence from the Police National Computer [PNC] could be far worse than first thought.
The arrest records were accidentally deleted during a weekly “weeding” session to expunge data from the PNC, which is owned and operated by the Home Office. DNA and fingerprint records were also removed because the databases holding them were connected to the PNC.
Naveed Malik, the NPCC’s lead for PNC, revealed to chiefs and police and crime commissioners today that 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error from the system.
There could be overlap of information between these records as an individual’s arrest record could relate to multiple offences.
Mr Malik went on to reveal that around 26,000 DNA records relating to 21,710 people had potentially been deleted in error, alongside a further 30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records.
The government has said there is no risk to public safety since The Times revealed the breach today.
However Mr Malik’s letter said the deleted DNA records included some that had “previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences”.
There have already been crimefighting implications since last week’s blunder, amid fears that offenders could go free because biometric evidence left at crime scenes will not be flagged up on the PNC.
Mr Malik said that police were already aware of at least one instance where the DNA profile from a suspect in custody did not generate a match to a crime scene as expected, “potentially impeding the investigation of the individual’s involvement in the crime”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/home-office-data-wipe-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-0hsrb7mvn
My suspicion is that this was a rush job related to the purging of 40,000 EU related data records that the police had no right to following the Brexit deal.
Given they had to do this in just under a week, I suspect they messed it up, not only did they have to delete it, they had to delete all back ups.
I.e. this is a screw up that shouldn't have occurred.0 -
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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Obviously it is a screw-up but @TheScreamingEagles' theory is plausible because it would explain why this is the first and only time this has happened. Perhaps a new, Brexit-mandated procedure (a one-off, ad-hoc job) either was badly coded so deleted more data than was intended, or was run against the wrong database.eek said:
Great argument except that the need (or at least the likely need) to purge 40,000 EU related records has been known about for over 2 years.TheScreamingEagles said:
Richard/Francis.Richard_Nabavi said:
Quite. It's surely inconceivable that anyone would do a data weeding operation without first taking a backup, and indeed that that there wouldn't be multiple backups at multiple points in time. At least, it should be inconceivable.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have no backup of this information at all?TheScreamingEagles said:More than 400,000 fingerprint, DNA, arrest and offence records may have been wiped from police databases following a technology blunder, The Times has learnt.
A letter to chief constables today revealed that the software error which deleted crucial evidence from the Police National Computer [PNC] could be far worse than first thought.
The arrest records were accidentally deleted during a weekly “weeding” session to expunge data from the PNC, which is owned and operated by the Home Office. DNA and fingerprint records were also removed because the databases holding them were connected to the PNC.
Naveed Malik, the NPCC’s lead for PNC, revealed to chiefs and police and crime commissioners today that 213,000 offence records, 175,000 arrest records and 15,000 person records have potentially been deleted in error from the system.
There could be overlap of information between these records as an individual’s arrest record could relate to multiple offences.
Mr Malik went on to reveal that around 26,000 DNA records relating to 21,710 people had potentially been deleted in error, alongside a further 30,000 fingerprint records and 600 subject records.
The government has said there is no risk to public safety since The Times revealed the breach today.
However Mr Malik’s letter said the deleted DNA records included some that had “previously been marked for indefinite retention following conviction of serious offences”.
There have already been crimefighting implications since last week’s blunder, amid fears that offenders could go free because biometric evidence left at crime scenes will not be flagged up on the PNC.
Mr Malik said that police were already aware of at least one instance where the DNA profile from a suspect in custody did not generate a match to a crime scene as expected, “potentially impeding the investigation of the individual’s involvement in the crime”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/home-office-data-wipe-could-be-worse-than-first-thought-0hsrb7mvn
My suspicion is that this was a rush job related to the purging of 40,000 EU related data records that the police had no right to following the Brexit deal.
Given they had to do this in just under a week, I suspect they messed it up, not only did they have to delete it, they had to delete all back ups.
I.e. this is a screw up that shouldn't have occurred.0 -
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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Noooo. If I said that to my wife she would fall about laughing.Pagan2 said:
I looked at the universe and asked why was I here, then I met you and found my answerStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Fortunately for me our birthdays and our children's birthdays and our anniversary all occur within 9 days of one another so it just gets forgotten. In 2019 we celebrated wife's 60th, my 65th and our 25th anniversary (4 day range). And if anyone wonders why we got married on that date I got threatened with 'by your 40th birthday or else'. I celebrated my 40th on the plane to the honeymoon.1 -
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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Step 1 of detox imo HAS to be Trump and Trumpers conceding the election was free and fair and lost. After that all is possible in the best of all possible worlds. I have a line for Joe's big speech -Andy_JS said:Similar article to one posted yesterday.
"It’s Joe Biden’s job to put a stop to American carnage – and this is what he should say on 20 January
The task of the president-elect’s inauguration speech is, as Lincoln said in 1865, “to bind up the nation’s wounds”.
Philip Collins"
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2021/01/it-s-joe-biden-s-job-put-stop-american-carnage-and-what-he-should-say-20
You drop the "steal" shit.
We start the "heal" bit.2 -
Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
There was a nebulous statement about increasing enforcement. Agree it is difficult, but hopefully most people try to stick to it as best they can.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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If the ship of state is as unwieldly as an oil tanker, then the ship of state-given-advice is even worse.....DecrepiterJohnL said:Why is Boris banging on (at least twice now) about virus spread by touching surfaces and objects? I thought packaging and fomites had been found innocent early on. Has there been new research?
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Maybe it was found to be an effective message to get people to change their behaviour generally.DecrepiterJohnL said:Why is Boris banging on (at least twice now) about virus spread by touching surfaces and objects? I thought packaging and fomites had been found innocent early on. Has there been new research?
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But we know they don't. The only way to ensure this is to close the border and only allow people in after 14 days mandatory quarantine at a hotel near the airport at the traveller's expense. Fuck the airports and airlines, we need to keep these variants out at any cost.RobD said:
There was a nebulous statement about increasing enforcement. Agree it is difficult, but hopefully most people try to stick to it as best they can.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
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Under Marshall Law everything is coned off.Richard_Nabavi said:
Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Thanks - I rather like that.Luckyguy1983 said:
If our marriage was a child, it would now be able to vote, get a tattoo and open a bank account in its own name. Loved every single year of it with you. Here's to the next 18.Stocky said:
18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.
And give her a big kiss on the bottom.
OF THE CARD.1 -
It is very goodStocky said:
Thanks - I rather like that.Luckyguy1983 said:
If our marriage was a child, it would now be able to vote, get a tattoo and open a bank account in its own name. Loved every single year of it with you. Here's to the next 18.Stocky said:
18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.
And give her a big kiss on the bottom.
OF THE CARD.1 -
No, he's a Bruce Lee knock off in the Tekken series of videogames.Richard_Nabavi said:
Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."0 -
The big question is why would anyone want to go through the hassleMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
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Guernsey's found effective policing and £10,000 fines for breaches quite effective.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
I guess the "effective policing" may be a challenge - in Guernsey the Border Force have carried out the UK equivalent of 867,000 visits to the quarantined in the last 14 days.0 -
Now Boris has gone and done a full New Zealand travel ban, Starmer is saying we should do a full New Zealand travel ban.
What a plank!2 -
Is travel from Belfast or Dublin by ferry to Scotland / England banned now ?0
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He just is not cutting through, though I do accept it is a difficult balanceMexicanpete said:Now Boris has gone and done a full New Zealand travel ban, Starmer is saying we should do a full New Zealand travel ban.
What a plank!
It seems Labour messages are always we have to spend a lot more and enforce the laws including closing everything down0 -
I don't agree with that.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
And I suspect the compliance figures would back me up.
Where was there better compliance with lockdown measures - UK or France, which was issuing about 100-1000x more fines in the early days?
Are there numbers for travel compliance?0 -
The common travel area is unaffected as far as I knowManchesterKurt said:Is travel from Belfast or Dublin by ferry the Scotland / England banned now ?
Also the all travel ban is agreed by all 4 administrations and comes into force at the same time1 -
New Zealand also charges those who come in for their quarantine - it's NZ$3100 per person for 14 days and NZ$4000 for a couple. They had some problems with individuals escaping the Auckland Hotels and spreading the virus round the country.MaxPB said:
But we know they don't. The only way to ensure this is to close the border and only allow people in after 14 days mandatory quarantine at a hotel near the airport at the traveller's expense. Fuck the airports and airlines, we need to keep these variants out at any cost.RobD said:
There was a nebulous statement about increasing enforcement. Agree it is difficult, but hopefully most people try to stick to it as best they can.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
There is regular testing within the 14 day period and you are only allowed out if you test negative again after 14 days.0 -
Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.
So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.
We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!0 -
I'd give up my vaccine for youStocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.
You have vaccinated me against loving anyone else
I've caught the virus of loving you
(that's enough of that shite -ed)7 -
ThanksBig_G_NorthWales said:
The common travel area is unaffected as far as I knowManchesterKurt said:Is travel from Belfast or Dublin by ferry the Scotland / England banned now ?
Also the all travel ban is agreed by all 4 administrations and comes into force at the same time
Got friends 'stuck' in Northern Ireland at the moment.
Not sure when they are coming back.0 -
They wouldn't, a recent UCL study found that 40% of people admitted they don't isolate *after* a positive test. The isolation rates for quarantine will be even lower, unless you think people coming from New York for 4 days spend all of it alone in a hotel room. It's this kind of unbelievably naive thinking that has led to the wholesale importation of cases and variants.MattW said:
I don't agree with that.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
And I suspect the compliance figures would back me up.
Where was there better compliance with lockdown measures - UK or France, which was issuing about 100-1000x more fines in the early days?
Are there numbers for travel compliance?2 -
The problem is Boris has just come up with an awesome idea, that Starmer hadn't thought of until after Boris announced it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He just is not cutting through, though I do accept it is a difficult balanceMexicanpete said:Now Boris has gone and done a full New Zealand travel ban, Starmer is saying we should do a full New Zealand travel ban.
What a plank!
It seems Labour messages are always we have to spend a lot more and enforce the laws including closing everything down0 -
Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiableRochdalePioneers said:Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.
So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.
We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!
Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.
And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different1 -
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Yes, I'm suggesting we have the same policy and charge people as part of the ticketing process.stodge said:
New Zealand also charges those who come in for their quarantine - it's NZ$3100 per person for 14 days and NZ$4000 for a couple. They had some problems with individuals escaping the Auckland Hotels and spreading the virus round the country.MaxPB said:
But we know they don't. The only way to ensure this is to close the border and only allow people in after 14 days mandatory quarantine at a hotel near the airport at the traveller's expense. Fuck the airports and airlines, we need to keep these variants out at any cost.RobD said:
There was a nebulous statement about increasing enforcement. Agree it is difficult, but hopefully most people try to stick to it as best they can.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
There is regular testing within the 14 day period and you are only allowed out if you test negative again after 14 days.0 -
I wonder which PBer voted for up to 72 hours ...HYUFD said:0 -
What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=200 -
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."1 -
Is this the latest Jacobite rising?Theuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
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Starmer is doing well. Boris is doing well. Almost all politicians in the UK are doing well. These are very testing times and they're passing the tests - clearly no A's will be awarded though.Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
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We're holding Arnold Rimmer in reserve....Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
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Looks a bit Hanoverian to me..williamglenn said:
Is this the latest Jacobite rising?Theuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=200 -
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.3 -
No, it's one of those fronts that think the BNP is a woke organisation.williamglenn said:
Is this the latest Jacobite rising?Theuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=20
James Goddard joined them today.0 -
How about Ace Rimmer?MarqueeMark said:
We're holding Arnold Rimmer in reserve....Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
'Smoke me some Kippers...'0 -
It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.0 -
I presume he is moaning that we aren't doing 500k/day vaccinations and would be if only we did 24/7. He did a hashtag and everything, that meant he would have achieved it.MarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."0 -
patriotic: From French patriotique, from Late Latin patriōticusTheuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=20
alternative: From Middle French alternatif, from Medieval Latin alternātīvus (“alternating”), from the participle stem of Latin alternō (“interchange, alternate”)
indigenous: Borrowed from Late Latin indigenus
Britons: From Old French Breton, from Latin Britto
built: From Middle English bilden, from Old English byldan (“to build, construct”), from Proto-Germanic *buþlijaną (“to build”)
Britain: From Middle English Breteyn, from Old English Breoton, Bryten etc., from Latin Britannia0 -
Nor anyone under 35.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.1 -
I feel something rising...williamglenn said:
Is this the latest Jacobite rising?Theuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
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I would be a little more generous: so, I would have tests 48 hours before hand to even go to the airport, plus antigen before getting on the plane.MaxPB said:
Yes, I'm suggesting we have the same policy and charge people as part of the ticketing process.stodge said:
New Zealand also charges those who come in for their quarantine - it's NZ$3100 per person for 14 days and NZ$4000 for a couple. They had some problems with individuals escaping the Auckland Hotels and spreading the virus round the country.MaxPB said:
But we know they don't. The only way to ensure this is to close the border and only allow people in after 14 days mandatory quarantine at a hotel near the airport at the traveller's expense. Fuck the airports and airlines, we need to keep these variants out at any cost.RobD said:
There was a nebulous statement about increasing enforcement. Agree it is difficult, but hopefully most people try to stick to it as best they can.MaxPB said:
Self certified quarantine which is worthless.RobD said:
Even with that they have to quarantine on arrival for ten days. Five with a second negative test afterwards.MaxPB said:
It's a 97% specific and 80% sensitive test which is essentially worthless and there's a 72h window for people to catch it as well. The policy is completely useless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Apparently the airlines have to see the test certificate and a completed locator form before they boardMaxPB said:What does closing the travel corridors mean in practice, unless the flights are quarantined for 14 days on arrival this seems like a "let's make it looks like we're doing something" policy.
There is regular testing within the 14 day period and you are only allowed out if you test negative again after 14 days.
Upon landing everyone would get an additional PCR test and would be shuttled to their hotel. Assuming that those PCR tests were all negative, and that everyone from the plane tested negative again at five days, I'd let people go then.
If, obviously, anyone tested postive upon landing, or after five days in the hotel, then the entire passenger list would be quarantined for two weeks.0 -
Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves onTheScreamingEagles said:
It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.KeithKeir.0 -
There's a strong sense of some people trying to make it "happen". It doesn't work; the fact they keep trying shows a little lack ideas right now.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.0 -
Some things should be kept to yourself.Foxy said:
I feel something rising...williamglenn said:
Is this the latest Jacobite rising?Theuniondivvie said:What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=200 -
"Ace would never be able to return to his own reality....."TheScreamingEagles said:
How about Ace Rimmer?MarqueeMark said:
We're holding Arnold Rimmer in reserve....Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
'Smoke me some Kippers...'0 -
Max
Good numbers indeed. Remember that much of Yorkshire was under heavy snowfall yesterday. Impressive return.
Now, let’s target 400k/day!1 -
I was around in the Eighties, but the reference is lost on me. Though as the show was the Brittas Empire, it might shore up support for SKS with the flag enthusiasts.Northern_Al said:
Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves onTheScreamingEagles said:
It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.KeithKeir.1 -
"When it is only by rigorous analysis of the way the world is changing that we have any prospect of securing our future".HYUFD said:
The significance of that, fundamentally, is that he's still selling the same globalisation cure-all as he was in the late '90s. That has very little public, popular mileage on either the modern right or left now, compared to 20 years ago, and for fairly understandable reasons since 2008.
It does have rather a lot more in common with the vision of some of the more radical Brexiters that he might care to admit, though.0 -
I seem to remember a TV show called Marshall Law. Probably on the early days of Channel 5.Richard_Nabavi said:
Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I really would love to see someone of Blair's calibre in charge right now.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
We are from very different political points of view but on this I agreeOnlyLivingBoy said:
I really would love to see someone of Blair's calibre in charge right now.Big_G_NorthWales said:2 -
How long until rejoining the single market is mainstream?
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/fisherman-tells-james-obrien-brexit-deal-is-total-lunacy-for-uk-fisheries/
Caller Robin has been in the industry for 45 years - he explains to LBC that voting for Brexit in the name of fishing is "total lunacy."
British fisherman have accused Boris Johnson of dishonesty and betrayal over his fishing deal.
Robin said: "To fix this, there is only one fix: we must rejoin the customs union and the single market, it's that simple. It's not complicated, that is the bottom line."0 -
I did wonder about the hospital medics!Foxy said:0 -
There was one with Hong Kong star Sammo Hung as a Chinese cop working in america. It was hilarious, he could use anything as a weapon.solarflare said:
I seem to remember a TV show called Marshall Law. Probably on the early days of Channel 5.Richard_Nabavi said:
Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.Northern_Al said:
Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves onTheScreamingEagles said:
It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.Northern_Al said:
Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).Mexicanpete said:
While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly isMarqueeMark said:Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"
"The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."
This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.KeithKeir.0 -
Congratulations. We've been married 18 years too (together for 26). I can't advise as I have never bought my wife an anniversary card, sorry!Stocky said:
18 yearsLuckyguy1983 said:
May we ask how many years?Stocky said:Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.
Google suggestions include:
• You're the perfect one for me.
• I love our life together.
• You're an amazing wife.
• I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
• I love being married to you.
• You're more beautiful now than ever.
I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.
There must be a third way?
Edit: @Big_G_NorthWales you must be an authority on this.0
