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  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,880
    edited January 2021

    What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?

    https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=20

    patriotic: From French patriotique, from Late Latin patriōticus
    alternative: From Middle French alternatif, from Medieval Latin alternātīvus (“alternating”), from the participle stem of Latin alternō (“interchange, alternate”)
    indigenous: Borrowed from Late Latin indigenus
    Britons: From Old French Breton, from Latin Britto
    built: From Middle English bilden, from Old English byldan (“to build, construct”), from Proto-Germanic *buþlijaną (“to build”)
    Britain: From Middle English Breteyn, from Old English Breoton, Bryten etc., from Latin Britannia
    Funny thing is, there aren't any indigenes - unless you count folk like me with gingery Neandertal hair and my Somerset chum who is a dead ringer for Cheddar Gorge Man. But, to a first approximation, the Welsh/Celts will do nicely. I don't suppose the blokes with the flag would like that.

    And as far as the UJ crosses go then SS. Andrew and George were furrin. And Patdrick was a 'Welshman' - Cymric - from Carlisle IIRC.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,380
    Floater said:
    So in the spirit of a new trade deal with the US we export Cockney Covid to them, so what do we get in return? Maybe, Donald Trump.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,671
    edited January 2021

    What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?

    https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=20

    Ooh, I like this game.

    Lincoln? No. That has twin towers. Ely? Not flat enough.

    Looks a bit East Yorkshire with the lack of hedges but it isn't Howden or Beverley.

    Looking west. Hmmm....


    Edit: Sorry, missed the idiots in the foreground. They aren't helping here.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,866
    Floater said:
    I remember when people were claiming it was all fake news and the UK government was overstating everything to cover up for Christmas shoppers.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770

    Floater said:
    So in the spirit of a new trade deal with the US we export Cockney Covid to them, so what do we get in return? Maybe, Donald Trump.
    There's no place for humour in this. Trump is a serious threat to society.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,209
    @Stocky

    Knocked out a quick song for you. Play this and then write the card in your own "muscular liberal" language. The result should hit the spot -

    https://youtu.be/WB2OxTUT-Rs
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    kle4 said:

    Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?
    I seem to remember a TV show called Marshall Law. Probably on the early days of Channel 5.
    There was one with Hong Kong star Sammo Hung as a Chinese cop working in america. It was hilarious, he could use anything as a weapon.
    That's the one!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,866
    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,551
    edited January 2021

    What have the Celts, Romans, Norse, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Irish, Jews, Huguenots, Indians, Africans, Pakistanis, Chinese and West Indians ever done for us?

    https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1350115978689073155?s=20

    Ooh, I like this game.

    Lincoln? No. That has twin towers. Ely? Not flat enough.

    Looks a bit East Yorkshire with the lack of hedges but it isn't Howden or Beverley.

    Looking west. Hmmm....


    Edit: Sorry, missed the idiots in the foreground. They aren't helping here.
    Could be Norfolk from the way that tower peers over a little incline . 'Indigenous Britons' is more or less without meaning, and absolutely so unless you say at what date you are willing to start from start from. c1000BC, 55BC, 43 AD, c450, 597, 899, 1035, 1066, 1485, 1603, 1688, 1707, 1973, 2021? A host of dates offer themselves as candidates.

    However the Santa Claus in the picture hails from Turkey. Good thing we left the EU before he arrived.

  • Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    It depends what we mean by UBI.

    If we mean an amount everyone can safely subsist on, to avoid falling into real poverty and despair whilst they get themselves together and re-train, then I agree.

    If we mean giving everyone enough to live on in relative comfort ad-finitum without working, then I don't agree.

    If we're so worried about tech, AI and the changing nature of the economy to think that the answer is mass redistribution, so everyone has £20k a year to do whatever they like with, then we're asking the wrong question.

    I believe we all need to work (it's part of our purpose in life, and helps gives us our identity and underpins our mental wellbeing) and we need to retain a direct link between work and reward.

    We need better, more flexible work, new forms of work, with a good work-life balance (maybe 4 days a week rather than 5 with more physically active leisure time) and much better adult education and re-training, together with childcare support - all of that - but work and reward is fundamental, IMHO.

    The question really is what kind of work. Many people are essentially currently being made to do certain kinds of work, for marginal or zero broader economic benefit, because the New Right of the late 1970s thought that any work was morally improving.

    There's a certain amount of research showing that people who do work they feel is most closely matched to their skills, experience significantly better mental and physical health, with the opposite being true in the other direction, with depression, mental illness, and early death. Marx was wrong on several things, but he understood the importance of what he described as "unalienated labour".

    That's fair, so maybe it's enjoyable work then?

    My only qualification to that would be is that sometimes people don't know what sort of work they might enjoy doing, and grow to love what they do even if at first they were ambivalent.

    Others never do, of course.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,858

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,222
    kinabalu said:

    @Stocky

    Knocked out a quick song for you. Play this and then write the card in your own "muscular liberal" language. The result should hit the spot -

    https://youtu.be/WB2OxTUT-Rs

    Many thanks for that. What a great song:

    "If not for you
    My sky would fall
    Rain would gather too.
    Without your love I'd be nowhere at all
    I'd be lost if not for you
    And you know it's true"

    That will do it.
  • I believe I was (somewhat sarcastically) asked when the shortages would hit the supermarkets?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9151005/amp/Brexit-chaos-fuels-fresh-food-crisis.html?__twitter_impression=true
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,551
    HYUFD said:
    Great stuff of course. There is no-one better at dressing up simple wish lists as if they amount to policy, polity, execution and completion than our old friend Mr Blair. There is a 'but' however. As always it amounts to: My vision is the right one, and it will be achieved if others of very high ability think and act the same as me. The vision or wish list itself, worth noting, consists almost entirely of abstract nouns.

  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Take a bow, The Dean and Chapter of Lichfield.

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-long-queues-form-lichfield-1963398

    Great well ventilated space for a vaccination centre.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,222

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Always be willing to temporarily rent - that`s my advice - if a last resort to save the chain is needed.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,101
    edited January 2021

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    To be honest I suspected you were waiting to exchange and it can be a very stressful moment in any home sale

    I would concentrate on trying to achieve the exchange and you may have to be flexible and even ready to negotiate further

    The system in England is very uncertain until exchange, when everything falls into place and the date become binding. Also is a chain involved and do you know how long it is and who is at the start

    I had nearly 40 years in the industry and little has changed since I retired 11 years ago

    Keep calm and all the best
  • Floater said:
    So in the spirit of a new trade deal with the US we export Cockney Covid to them, so what do we get in return? Maybe, Donald Trump.
    As long as they keep him in Scotland!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    As everyone has no doubt told him before in his life:

    No Ted, no one wants you here.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited January 2021
    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    I read somewhere that "downsizing" happens much less in practice than in theory because house moving is such a daunting undertaking anyway, and especially for the elderly, that people pretty much freeze up at the thought of it. I would be very circumspect and soft touch about hassling them...
  • Stocky said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Always be willing to temporarily rent - that`s my advice - if a last resort to save the chain is needed.
    Very good advice
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    kle4 said:

    Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?
    I seem to remember a TV show called Marshall Law. Probably on the early days of Channel 5.
    There was one with Hong Kong star Sammo Hung as a Chinese cop working in america. It was hilarious, he could use anything as a weapon.
    That's the one!
    Sammo Hung is a god amongst men.

    His choreography is sublime. Jackie Chan movies choreographed by Sammo are much better than ones Chan choreographs.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,052
    edited January 2021
    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
  • Foxy said:

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    I was around in the Eighties, but the reference is lost on me. Though as the show was the Brittas Empire, it might shore up support for SKS with the flag enthusiasts.
    Thing is that part of the joke of Gordon Brittas was that, although his enthusiastic ideas led to mayhem and disaster, those around him somehow thought he was great.

    Sounds more like the PM than the LotO, to be honest.
  • Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    Yes, there should have been a ban on incoming flights when infections were at their lowest in the summer. And they should have banned the summer foreign holidays too.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,866
    Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    No it isn't. The new Brazilian variant probably has a diluting effect on vaccine efficacy. Keeping that out of the UK is a necessity until the vaccines can be reformulated to protect us against it and vulnerable people can be be given a booster.

    On numbers the whole second wave is down to rubbish quarantine and travel policy. The open border has been a disaster.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,209
    So that's it. He's blown his chances of the 24 nomination then - per the "Trump lives!" body of opinion.
  • Whats more wokey than searching for things that are inconsequential and not even newsworthy and getting really upset about them?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,600

    Foxy said:

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    I was around in the Eighties, but the reference is lost on me. Though as the show was the Brittas Empire, it might shore up support for SKS with the flag enthusiasts.
    Thing is that part of the joke of Gordon Brittas was that, although his enthusiastic ideas led to mayhem and disaster, those around him somehow thought he was great.

    Sounds more like the PM than the LotO, to be honest.
    People sounding oddly rattled at this humorous reference.....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    Whats more wokey than searching for things that are inconsequential and not even newsworthy and getting really upset about them?
    We become the things we hate.
  • kinabalu said:

    So that's it. He's blown his chances of the 24 nomination then - per the "Trump lives!" body of opinion.
    Its far far worse for him, he will get arrested by the Space Force who are running the event as a trap.
  • Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    FPT
    HYUFD said:
    ' Though he was standing for the Tories in Glasgow Pollok, a seat less likely to elect a Tory MSP it would be hard to find '

    Glasgow Pollok was a surprise Labour gain in 1964 on a 12% swing from the Tories. The new Labour MP - Alex Garrow - died in his 40s at the beginning of 1967. The resulting by-election in March saw Professor Esmonde Wright recapture the seat for the Tories - though he was to lose it again in 1970. That was the last Tory gain in Scotland at a Parliamentary by - election. I recall it very well - by elections also took place on the same day in Nuneaton and Rhondda West.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,204
    MaxPB said:

    Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    No it isn't. The new Brazilian variant probably has a diluting effect on vaccine efficacy. Keeping that out of the UK is a necessity until the vaccines can be reformulated to protect us against it and vulnerable people can be be given a booster.

    On numbers the whole second wave is down to rubbish quarantine and travel policy. The open border has been a disaster.
    My employer needs, and I mean needs to send people to various places in normal times. We've found that almost /very difficult - the returning UK restrictions have been a joke comparitvely
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
    Given he's an impressionist he could, very easily.
  • DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288

    Floater said:
    So in the spirit of a new trade deal with the US we export Cockney Covid to them, so what do we get in return? Maybe, Donald Trump.
    As long as they keep him in Scotland!
    Are Cockney COVID and a Covidey Cock included under the same WTO tariff schedule category?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,600

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
    But his character Gordon Brittas does!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,204

    DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    That's quite lol considering Scottish property law and all favouring the seller more than England.
  • DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    Very good news on your buyer and he is in poll position on your deal, so maybe concentrate on getting him to exchange contracts and then the date becomes legal, providing the certainty you need to move to Scotland.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,380

    Foxy said:

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    I was around in the Eighties, but the reference is lost on me. Though as the show was the Brittas Empire, it might shore up support for SKS with the flag enthusiasts.
    Thing is that part of the joke of Gordon Brittas was that, although his enthusiastic ideas led to mayhem and disaster, those around him somehow thought he was great.

    Sounds more like the PM than the LotO, to be honest.
    People sounding oddly rattled at this humorous reference.....
    Rattled? Not really except by the dreary comedy element. Captain Hindsight by contrast is apt and absolutely hilarious.
  • Pulpstar said:

    DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    That's quite lol considering Scottish property law and all favouring the seller more than England.
    Can I refer you back to my initial comment that the seller is a cantankerous old sod? Hopefully a bit of flexibility will be found - we are genuinely flexible to work around both of them.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1350164256734502915?s=20

    We are now vaccinating at a rate greater than 2 million a week.

    Sky News have extrapolated from yesterday's Scottish leak that there will be sufficient doses in the UK by mid July to vaccinate the entire UK population.

    Stunning.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Foxy said:

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    I was around in the Eighties, but the reference is lost on me. Though as the show was the Brittas Empire, it might shore up support for SKS with the flag enthusiasts.
    Thing is that part of the joke of Gordon Brittas was that, although his enthusiastic ideas led to mayhem and disaster, those around him somehow thought he was great.

    Sounds more like the PM than the LotO, to be honest.
    People sounding oddly rattled at this humorous reference.....
    Rattled? Not really except by the dreary comedy element. Captain Hindsight by contrast is apt and absolutely hilarious.
    Sir Abstainalot is good.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    Is Marshall Law a bit like having the Covid marshalls over here?
    I seem to remember a TV show called Marshall Law. Probably on the early days of Channel 5.
    There was one with Hong Kong star Sammo Hung as a Chinese cop working in america. It was hilarious, he could use anything as a weapon.
    That's the one!
    Sammo Hung is a god amongst men.

    His choreography is sublime. Jackie Chan movies choreographed by Sammo are much better than ones Chan choreographs.
    Oh no if we're getting into that. Warriors Two and The Prodigal Son are masterpieces.

    Probably saw them first at 3am at Empire (Odeon?) Leicester Square thirty years or more ago.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,209

    Whats more wokey than searching for things that are inconsequential and not even newsworthy and getting really upset about them?
    Jumping into that Parler space.

    It has to go somewhere otherwise they all get a headache and the most dreadful rash.
  • I thought they brought the military in to stop such people from trying to attend?
  • Pulpstar said:

    DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    That's quite lol considering Scottish property law and all favouring the seller more than England.
    Can I refer you back to my initial comment that the seller is a cantankerous old sod? Hopefully a bit of flexibility will be found - we are genuinely flexible to work around both of them.
    But you buyer is your key so concentrate on getting him to exchange contracts
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    One of the questions on my exam today was about advising a client who was currently renting, and who's seller wanted a 3-month delay in completion. She had already exchanged and wanted to rescind the contract if the original completion date was not met.

    Long story short, I advised her she was probably better off agreeing as it would take longer to pull out and find another property and she could still claim compensation and perhaps damages.

    Not at all helpful to you, I know. ;)
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,996
    edited January 2021
    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?
  • DavidL said:

    Having fun* with regards to move dates. Old sods selling to us insisted couldn't move until end of Jan and needed 3 weeks notice to a completion date. Have had either side of the first weekend in February on the table for ages. Then seller says Can we do the week after that? Hang on, we'll check. Takes our estate agent 4 days to hear back from our buyer that no, they need to complete to the original schedule.

    So back we go to try and get the old sods to move when we'd proposed which was to their advised requirements. The problem is that they have been somewhat cantankerous when it comes to co-operating with this process - I don't think they have actually understood that yes we are buying their house and that means get ready to move.

    We're largely boxed up already. Removal company just needs us to confirm when we're going (its a 2 day operation). So hurry up you old gits!

    Apart from your rather grumpy tone if you have entered a contact to sell and purchase a date will be in the contracts and it is non negotiable

    Or are you still subject to contact in England, in which case you run the risk of your buyer walking away.

    And are you legally committed to your purchase in Scotland and to the date as Scots law is different
    I have reason to be grumpy - they have been almost obstructionist in this process of selling their house.

    We're ready to exchange contracts / missives but waiting to nail the completion date down before doing so.

    Possible but unlikely that the deals fall apart at this late stage. Hopefully...
    Sad to say but @Big_G_NorthWales is a bit out of date. When I started conveyancing 37 years ago now (why haven't I retired yet) it was exactly as he describes. Now, unfortunately, we have slipped into the bad habits of south of the border where missives are rarely concluded until pretty much the date of entry making everything uncertain.

    My fear would be that you are stuck in a chain, something the Scottish system used to avoid and that they are reluctant to commit until they have somewhere to go and are not going to be homeless. Hopefully that will sort itself out. All the best.
    Not a chain as our buyer is renting currently. Our seller in Scotland was most unhappy at the idea of selling to us at all of we still had our own property to sell. Which likely explains why it had been on the market for 2 years...
    One of the questions on my exam today was about advising a client who was currently renting, and who's seller wanted a 3-month delay in completion. She had already exchanged and wanted to rescind the contract if the original completion date was not met.

    Long story short, I advised her she was probably better off agreeing as it would take longer to pull out and find another property and she could still claim compensation and perhaps damages.

    Not at all helpful to you, I know. ;)
    We haven't yet agreed a completion date, so thats ok... Its a storm in a teacup over an additional week. Sounds like the buyer's landlord will extend by a week, so even if we pay their extra week's rent, it will work.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,380

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
    But his character Gordon Brittas does!
    The trouble is, no it doesn't.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    edited January 2021

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
    But his character Gordon Brittas does!
    Nonsense! Even Arnold Rimmer bears more resemblance to Gordon Brittas! :)
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047

    Apologies for the language but the reply should be the most popular tweet ever.

    https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1350148854373634051
    https://twitter.com/poshkev1963/status/1350166394269274112

    Like father, like son.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914

    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?

    Recount please. One of the most entertaining posters on here. I doubt it's sub-samples. He couldn't give a Castlemaine's.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,090
    edited January 2021
    Bit more info on Pfizer production changes...slow next week, back to normal after that. Good job UK has 5m doses already.

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1350160523762003971?s=19
  • Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I asuspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    Once you have heard the voice / tone of both, its immediately obvious. They also look a bit alike.
    Chris Barrie sounds nothing like Sir Keir!
    But his character Gordon Brittas does!
    Nonsense! Even Arnold Rimmer bears more resemblance Gordon Brittas! :)
    For outdated references that only old farts will get, a more highly coloured Max Headroom does it for me.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,090
    edited January 2021
    A lot of people there... doubt they are all essential journies.

    https://twitter.com/UB1UB2/status/1350144708941656067?s=19
  • Roger said:

    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?

    Recount please. One of the most entertaining posters on here. I doubt it's sub-samples. He couldn't give a Castlemaine's.
    Only entertaining in the same way Baldrick is. He is a typical Nat. Chippy, prejudiced and filled with hate for anyone that doesn’t share his historically inaccurate view of Scottish victim hood
  • Embarrassing....

    The figures suggest Turkey vaccinated more people on the first day of its rollout than France did in almost three weeks.
  • Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia urged the EU to apply pressure on Pfizer-BioNTech.

    And do what, shout at them to go faster?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    Roger said:

    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?

    Recount please. One of the most entertaining posters on here. I doubt it's sub-samples. He couldn't give a Castlemaine's.
    Only entertaining in the same way Baldrick is. He is a typical Nat. Chippy, prejudiced and filled with hate for anyone that doesn’t share his historically inaccurate view of Scottish victim hood
    What a horrible way to describe Baldrick!
  • Senior councillors and Bath MP Wera Hobhouse were among the objectors to EE and 3’s application to upgrade a 15-metre mast that has been in place since 2006.

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/second-5g-mast-proposed-60-4892104.amp

    Obviously worried about potential to cause COVID...
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    Ice cream tests positive for coronavirus. Social distance from Mr. Whippy?

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-ice-cream-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-china-12188761
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,209
    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Sorry: I thought we required a PCR test in the previous 48 hours. Not enough, I agree, but we aren't seriously allowing antigen tests to count as a negative are we?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,477
    kle4 said:

    Roger said:

    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?

    Recount please. One of the most entertaining posters on here. I doubt it's sub-samples. He couldn't give a Castlemaine's.
    Only entertaining in the same way Baldrick is. He is a typical Nat. Chippy, prejudiced and filled with hate for anyone that doesn’t share his historically inaccurate view of Scottish victim hood
    What a horrible way to describe Baldrick!
    Evidently the character has subtleties that are lost on us!
  • Senior councillors and Bath MP Wera Hobhouse were among the objectors to EE and 3’s application to upgrade a 15-metre mast that has been in place since 2006.

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/second-5g-mast-proposed-60-4892104.amp

    Obviously worried about potential to cause COVID...

    Whilst Wera Hobhouse is part of the Lib Dem front bench the Lib Dems can go swivel if they want my tactical vote.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,006
    edited January 2021

    Brittas on travel corridors: "right step, but slow again"

    "The measures the Prime Minister has announced are the right measures."

    While Starmer is clearly sub-Corbyn useless, the Chris Barrie character reference is as poor as Starmer undoubtedly is
    Yes, I think the frequent references to Gordon Brittas by a handful of posters are tiresome (and rather childish, even).

    This forum is a bit cliquey at times. New posters, or those who visit infrequently, wouldn't, I suspect, understand the reference.
    It's the new Keith Starmer which was a rip roaring success.
    Well at least we know who that refers to. Gordon Brittas? I'd never heard of him. Suggests a bit of a struggle to land heavy gloves on Keith Keir.
    I think it is an attempt at cutting edge humour by the Tory PBers, and then we wonder why there aren't more right wing comedians.
  • kle4 said:

    Roger said:

    I believe malc has had his knuckles rapped again. Has the Cooler King done his time or is it a longer stretch this time?

    Recount please. One of the most entertaining posters on here. I doubt it's sub-samples. He couldn't give a Castlemaine's.
    Only entertaining in the same way Baldrick is. He is a typical Nat. Chippy, prejudiced and filled with hate for anyone that doesn’t share his historically inaccurate view of Scottish victim hood
    What a horrible way to describe Baldrick!
    Fair point. Baldrick was simply stupid, and while he loved turnips he was not particularly prejudiced and obnoxious. Sorry Baldrick
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,477
    I don't really get the Brittas thing. Keir Starmer sounding like an idiot from a TV series doesn't make him an idiot, so I am not sure what we are supposed to make of it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,431

    Stocky said:

    Advice about what to write on anniversary card to my wife. I`m crap at this.

    Google suggestions include:

    • You're the perfect one for me.
    • I love our life together.
    • You're an amazing wife.
    • I'm so lucky to have you in my life.
    • I love being married to you.
    • You're more beautiful now than ever.

    I can`t bring myself to write any of that sappy stuff. And “so far so good” doesn`t seem adequate.

    There must be a third way?

    Go for the sappy stuff. Unless it is so out of character, she suspects you are then going to admit to an affair....
    Friend of mine gave his wife a hefty voucher for Agent Prov lingerie at Xmas. She then went all subdued and quiet on him, and finally revealed, a week later, that she was presuming he had a mistress, and he'd mixed the presents up (as happens in Love, Actually). Ouch
  • Senior councillors and Bath MP Wera Hobhouse were among the objectors to EE and 3’s application to upgrade a 15-metre mast that has been in place since 2006.

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/second-5g-mast-proposed-60-4892104.amp

    Obviously worried about potential to cause COVID...

    Whilst Wera Hobhouse is part of the Lib Dem front bench the Lib Dems can go swivel if they want my tactical vote.
    Are there any Lib Dem backbenchers? Actually, were there any in the glory days of 2000ish?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,866
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Sorry: I thought we required a PCR test in the previous 48 hours. Not enough, I agree, but we aren't seriously allowing antigen tests to count as a negative are we?
    LAMP and lateral flow tests qualify.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766
    Former staff members for Claire McCaskill, a Democrat who lost re-election in 2018 to Senator Josh Hawley, have started a super PAC to defeat Mr. Hawley the next time he runs for office — part of a broad backlash against him for leading the effort last week to overturn the results of the presidential election.

    NYTimes
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,431

    I really would love to see someone of Blair's calibre in charge right now.
    We are from very different political points of view but on this I agree
    Me too. I am amazed to find that Blair is best enunciating what I feel
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,665
    edited January 2021
    Scott_xP said:
    Thoughts and prayers for the NRA and their members.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,431

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1350164256734502915?s=20

    We are now vaccinating at a rate greater than 2 million a week.

    Sky News have extrapolated from yesterday's Scottish leak that there will be sufficient doses in the UK by mid July to vaccinate the entire UK population.

    Stunning.

    Yes. It is pretty much the one thing they have done very well (compare the unfolding shit-parade in the EU)

    IF - IF IF IF - they continue to get it right, many if not all of their other major errors will be forgotten, I guess the government knows that, hence the huge emphasis.

    Note, also, that if they do get it right, Zahawi will become a hero. Potential PM I reckon
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,204

    Scott_xP said:
    Thoughts and prayers for the NRA and their members.
    Not really needed with a 6-3 majority on the SCOTUS I think ?

    Gorsuch, ACB, Alito, Thomas are locks on gun votes (2A);
    Kavanaugh is too. https://www.vox.com/2018/9/5/17820310/brett-kavanaugh-second-amendment-guns-supreme-court
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,090
    edited January 2021
    Leon said:

    https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1350164256734502915?s=20

    We are now vaccinating at a rate greater than 2 million a week.

    Sky News have extrapolated from yesterday's Scottish leak that there will be sufficient doses in the UK by mid July to vaccinate the entire UK population.

    Stunning.

    Yes. It is pretty much the one thing they have done very well (compare the unfolding shit-parade in the EU)

    IF - IF IF IF - they continue to get it right, many if not all of their other major errors will be forgotten, I guess the government knows that, hence the huge emphasis.

    Note, also, that if they do get it right, Zahawi will become a hero. Potential PM I reckon
    I wouldn't go that far. Still going to have a high death toll which will be constantly brought up, and then we will have the economic fall out for years to come (plus Brexit...insert 1000 Scott n Paste not retweets).
  • Presumably they just restart the MAGAMegaRA?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,673
    MaxPB said:

    Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    No it isn't. The new Brazilian variant probably has a diluting effect on vaccine efficacy. Keeping that out of the UK is a necessity until the vaccines can be reformulated to protect us against it and vulnerable people can be be given a booster.

    On numbers the whole second wave is down to rubbish quarantine and travel policy. The open border has been a disaster.
    Where's your evidence for your assertion in that penultimate sentence?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,431

    I don't really get the Brittas thing. Keir Starmer sounding like an idiot from a TV series doesn't make him an idiot, so I am not sure what we are supposed to make of it.

    Moreover, the Brittas Empire is a ridiculously obscure prog from decades ago. I am of the right age to remember it, but I barely remember it. Even tho I really like Chirs Barrie's work: he was a fine impressionist and was excellent on Red Dwarf

    I am sure he inspired Richard Ayoade - who is also brilliant. The Humour of the Geek.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,696
    Scott_xP said:
    Has the Kremlin pulled their funding?
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,877

    MaxPB said:

    Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    No it isn't. The new Brazilian variant probably has a diluting effect on vaccine efficacy. Keeping that out of the UK is a necessity until the vaccines can be reformulated to protect us against it and vulnerable people can be be given a booster.

    On numbers the whole second wave is down to rubbish quarantine and travel policy. The open border has been a disaster.
    Where's your evidence for your assertion in that penultimate sentence?
    Open borders and rubbish quarantine undoubtedly played their part, however opening everything up, universities and schools were probably bigger players but then we have shit government by shit people and an even shittier opposition was our choice at the last election.

    It was vote would you like to be totally shat on or have the full explosive diahorrhea experience
  • Pulpstar said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Thoughts and prayers for the NRA and their members.
    Not really needed with a 6-3 majority on the SCOTUS I think ?

    Gorsuch, ACB, Alito, Thomas are locks on gun votes (2A);
    Kavanaugh is too. https://www.vox.com/2018/9/5/17820310/brett-kavanaugh-second-amendment-guns-supreme-court
    It looks like a Chapter XI bankruptcy to allow them to switch from New York to Texas.

    The NRA will still be with us sadly.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    Scott_xP said:
    Has the Kremlin pulled their funding?
    They couldn’t wait to be shot of them.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,696
    Pagan2 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Fishing said:

    Alistair said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alistair said:

    All travel corridors closed. Proof of negative test needed on entry to UK.

    A mere... 10 months late.
    And pointless given that tests with just 80% sensitivity count and a whole load of false negatives. We should have insisted on PCR tests with digital verification and approved agencies. If that means people are unable to come here then that's just tough.
    Yeah, didn't realise how shite a "ban" this was when I commented.

    It is a "appearance of doing something" action.
    Well, it's all confected outrage given that 99% of cases are from domestic transmission. Until we get that under control it's all meaningless.
    No it isn't. The new Brazilian variant probably has a diluting effect on vaccine efficacy. Keeping that out of the UK is a necessity until the vaccines can be reformulated to protect us against it and vulnerable people can be be given a booster.

    On numbers the whole second wave is down to rubbish quarantine and travel policy. The open border has been a disaster.
    Where's your evidence for your assertion in that penultimate sentence?
    Open borders and rubbish quarantine undoubtedly played their part, however opening everything up, universities and schools were probably bigger players but then we have shit government by shit people and an even shittier opposition was our choice at the last election.

    It was vote would you like to be totally shat on or have the full explosive diahorrhea experience
    Even Australia has had outbreaks that ran out of control despite a tough border policy. It's only because they are so spread out that they could get away without a national lockdown.
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