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FWIW, Stephen Fisher is currently projecting a range of 22 - 34 seats for the LibDems.rcs1000 said:
What's his view on 2015 LibDem seats?foxinsoxuk said:For those following the awesome predictive power of foxinsox jr with his form and subbutteo based simulation, may I remind you that he has Spain Netherlands as a 1:1 draw. Chile will beat Australia 2:0.
Both his 3:1 Brazil and 1:0 Mexico predictions were documented 24 hours in advance on PB.
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Come to think on it, I just counted the potential flashpoints around the world.
I am in need of a smallish whisky for my nerves.0 -
That Van Persie goal was incredible0
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1:1 was juniors prediction ;-), so no more goals.
I am on the 21-30 seats with ladbrokes.peter_from_putney said:
FWIW, Stephen Fisher is currently projecting a range of 22 - 34 seats for the LibDems.rcs1000 said:
What's his view on 2015 LibDem seats?foxinsoxuk said:For those following the awesome predictive power of foxinsox jr with his form and subbutteo based simulation, may I remind you that he has Spain Netherlands as a 1:1 draw. Chile will beat Australia 2:0.
Both his 3:1 Brazil and 1:0 Mexico predictions were documented 24 hours in advance on PB.
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"Scottish independence campaigner claims MI5 is leading dirty tricks campaign "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-independence-campaigner-claims-mi5-is-leading-dirty-tricks-campaign-9535799.html0 -
And ISIS is the most sophisticated and organised non recognised state in history.AndyJS said:Apparently the Iraqi army is relying on Shia militias, who are in turn relying on Iran.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/the-isis-guide-to-building-an-islamic-state/372769/
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Oh please, fetch him a tin foil Tam o'Shanter.Smarmeron said:Posted without comment
"Scottish independence campaigner claims MI5 is leading dirty tricks campaign "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scottish-independence-campaigner-claims-mi5-is-leading-dirty-tricks-campaign-9535799.html0 -
To remind you of the Scottish flashpoint?Smarmeron said:Come to think on it, I just counted the potential flashpoints around the world.
I am in need of a smallish whisky for my nerves.
I agree though it is a huge mess. Without wishing to offend anyone it strikes me that the Islamic peoples are going through a similar period to the Christians of 16th century Europe. These nations and peoples are becoming world players. I hope they do a lot better at dealing with these growing pains than Europe did.
I'm sort of hopeful (no doubt wishful thinking) that Iran might become a little more open to the west (and Israel), and vice-versa. A wise and respected Iranian state could really help stabilise the region.
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Base the individual MP's salary on the number of votes cast as well to encourage themCharles said:Sorry if this has been mentioned below - haven't read the thread.
But it's very easy to legislate to deal with this issue. Just base constituency sizes on average votes cast at, say, the last 3 general elections.
Immediately incentivises parties to encourage turnout in their safe seats.
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What is foxinsox jr forecasting for tomorrow's England vs Italy encounter?foxinsoxuk said:For those following the awesome predictive power of foxinsox jr with his form and subbutteo based simulation, may I remind you that he has Spain Netherlands as a 1:1 draw. Chile will beat Australia 2:0.
Both his 3:1 Brazil and 1:0 Mexico predictions were documented 24 hours in advance on PB.
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What a great idea it was of Gen Garner and Paul Bremer to disband the Iraqi army in 2003.AndyJS said:Apparently the Iraqi army is relying on Shia militias, who are in turn relying on Iran.
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Richard, you don't know the way that Cameron thinks.Richard_Tyndall said:
And I wonder at what point Hannan will realise that Cameron will keep us in the EU no matter what. His position within the Tory party will become untenable before we reach referendum day.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well, quite. Hannan is that rare thing: a rational BOOer.TheScreamingEagles said:
We should keep on reminding Kippers of that Hannan article, for only this part
....Plus, obviously, he [Cameron] represents our one chance of a referendum on leaving the EU.
The one thing that he will not sacrifice is the Tory Party: he doesn't want to go down in history as the man who split it.
If he can't carry 2/3 of his party with him (i.e. supporting staying in on renegotiated terms) he will support 'out'.0 -
That is also a 1:1 draw. The lad knows his football.peter_from_putney said:
What is foxinsox jr forecasting for tomorrow's England vs Italy encounter?foxinsoxuk said:For those following the awesome predictive power of foxinsox jr with his form and subbutteo based simulation, may I remind you that he has Spain Netherlands as a 1:1 draw. Chile will beat Australia 2:0.
Both his 3:1 Brazil and 1:0 Mexico predictions were documented 24 hours in advance on PB.
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Why on earth is Ed apologising for being photographed with a copy of the Sun? I suspect almost everyone in the country has purchased a copy at one time or another. (Even I have - once I think).
If Ed does become PM he'll need to be a little less sensitive to this sort of thing. Perhaps it makes him more human and likeable to be pussy-footing about, but it also substantially damages the confidence that one might choose to place in him.
I'm sure it's an aberration, but it really has struck me as one of the oddest things he's done. (And as he is a bit odd, mostly in good ways, then that's quite an achievement)
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That is an interesting thought Charles. Until now I had been with Richard on this (i.e. Cameron will never accept leaving the EU) but you are right he has consistently prioritized party unity over his preferred EU policy in the past (i.e. when he was forced to concede the referendum) and he might well do so again.Charles said:
Richard, you don't know the way that Cameron thinks.Richard_Tyndall said:
And I wonder at what point Hannan will realise that Cameron will keep us in the EU no matter what. His position within the Tory party will become untenable before we reach referendum day.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well, quite. Hannan is that rare thing: a rational BOOer.TheScreamingEagles said:
We should keep on reminding Kippers of that Hannan article, for only this part
....Plus, obviously, he [Cameron] represents our one chance of a referendum on leaving the EU.
The one thing that he will not sacrifice is the Tory Party: he doesn't want to go down in history as the man who split it.
If he can't carry 2/3 of his party with him (i.e. supporting staying in on renegotiated terms) he will support 'out'.0 -
It's those same Kalashnikovs now being appealed to in the form of their owners' militias - except of course now they're wholly outside the control of the state.Smarmeron said:@david_herdson
Take your Kalashnikovs and beat them into ploughshares?0 -
I think the Sun did pictures with all the leaders and Bojo to promote their coverage. It would have appeared unpatriotic to refuse so Ed M was stuck with a tricky one.
He didn't look convincing holding it though. He rarely photographs well.Omnium said:Why on earth is Ed apologising for being photographed with a copy of the Sun? I suspect almost everyone in the country has purchased a copy at one time or another. (Even I have - once I think).
If Ed does become PM he'll need to be a little less sensitive to this sort of thing. Perhaps it makes him more human and likeable to be pussy-footing about, but it also substantially damages the confidence that one might choose to place in him.
I'm sure it's an aberration, but it really has struck me as one of the oddest things he's done. (And as he is a bit odd, mostly in good ways, then that's quite an achievement)0 -
ISIS claiming its first aerial attack on an Iraqi army camp in Samarra0
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Well this is going wrong.0
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Jr's predictive skills are now officially less good than a mollusc.
Good finishing by the Dutch, and better goalkeeping too.0 -
Nice goal by the ever reliant Robben.0
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I wonder what the difference is with postwar Germany? The army was disbanded there. Huge forces of occupation, and total foreign rule. Why did the Germans (and Japanese) knuckle down, and then thrive on that basis and yet the Iraqi's have found things much harder?david_herdson said:
What a great idea it was of Gen Garner and Paul Bremer to disband the Iraqi army in 2003.AndyJS said:Apparently the Iraqi army is relying on Shia militias, who are in turn relying on Iran.
Are there areas of Iraq that have followed what happened in Germany? Is the issue that Iraq isn't a united nation?
Anyway I think you're being a touch hard on the merits of that decision.
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My £5 bet on Netherlands is looking good.0
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I think the dutch are going to win this.0
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Spain are getting done here0
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AveryLP said:Grandiose said:
For those concerned, I finished my exams today.
(Was covered in hot chocolate powder, milk, eggs, cherryade, salad cream and maple syrup, and chucked in a river.)
Alex Massie a leftie?! And you might care to reflect that the Scots had to suffer the West Hampstead Question for centuries (e.g. consider the ecclesiastical patronage legislation [edit: pressed wron button] of the 1830s and 1840s). But it's a fair point about two classes of MP.Socrates said:
Your links are just Scots and lefties wanting to maintain influence in an obviously unfair system. If English MPs don't get to vote on Scottish matters, Scots MPs shouldn't get to vote on English matters. "Two classes of MP" already exist - it happened with devolution.Carnyx said:
Scotland foreign? That's a very early Indy day you are advocating - but then it wouldn't be sending MPs to Westminster.dellertronic said:So Con would win in England and Lab would be relaint on foreign votes to pass legislation. Isn't that the nationalist ase for Scotland. The case for an English parliament and a ban on Scottish MP's voting on English only matters strenghtens by the day. If Con have any sense they would get it into place before GE 2015.
Seriously, though, I see what you really mean - but it will be difficult to define England-only issues in ways that won't get derailed sooner or later, and whch don't discriminate against MPs for non-English constituencies. Those are interesting
http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1784
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/alex-massie/2013/08/than-answer-to-the-west-lothian-question-is-to-stop-asking-it/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/a-neat-solution-to-the-west-lothian-question-but-what-might-go-wrong-8698507.html
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Omnium said:
I wonder what the difference is with postwar Germany? The army was disbanded there. Huge forces of occupation, and total foreign rule. Why did the Germans (and Japanese) knuckle down, and then thrive on that basis and yet the Iraqi's have found things much harder?david_herdson said:
What a great idea it was of Gen Garner and Paul Bremer to disband the Iraqi army in 2003.AndyJS said:Apparently the Iraqi army is relying on Shia militias, who are in turn relying on Iran.
Are there areas of Iraq that have followed what happened in Germany? Is the issue that Iraq isn't a united nation?
Anyway I think you're being a touch hard on the merits of that decision.
Perhaps they should have taken a leaf out of Mountbatten's book. At the end of WW2 after the Japanese surrendered, they were still the only effective police force across large areas of south-east Asia. Mountbatten recognised this and made use of the Japanese army as (usually unarmed) police. In a number of cases in Vietnam he actually rearmed Japanese troops and used them to help regain control of towns which had rebelled against the returning French rule.
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I noticed that Holland were 9/2 to win at the start of the match. I don't bet on football but those odds seemed crazy to me.0
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Invest your winnings wisely:)AndyJS said:
My £5 bet on Netherlands is looking good.
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Game over for Spain.0
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foxinsoxuk said:
I think the Sun did pictures with all the leaders and Bojo to promote their coverage. It would have appeared unpatriotic to refuse so Ed M was stuck with a tricky one.
He didn't look convincing holding it though. He rarely photographs well.Omnium said:Why on earth is Ed apologising for being photographed with a copy of the Sun? I suspect almost everyone in the country has purchased a copy at one time or another. (Even I have - once I think).
If Ed does become PM he'll need to be a little less sensitive to this sort of thing. Perhaps it makes him more human and likeable to be pussy-footing about, but it also substantially damages the confidence that one might choose to place in him.
I'm sure it's an aberration, but it really has struck me as one of the oddest things he's done. (And as he is a bit odd, mostly in good ways, then that's quite an achievement)
Yep. So he either should have refused, or not apologised - he now looks unpatriotic and daft!
The rest of the leaders should have refused anyway. They all do seem to have a significant number of pages in their left hands - it's the meaty mid-section economic commentary for them.. or are they just making sure no-one thinks it's page 3. (Both Boris and Farage seem to have turned down the top corner to make it clear that it's not)
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Espana 1982 once again.
All real football fans will be pleased.0 -
Well I think this is over for Spain.0
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Man U fans looking forward to Dutch chosen one.
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Yep. I wrote about that at the time Cameron gave his speech:MaxU said:
That is an interesting thought Charles. Until now I had been with Richard on this (i.e. Cameron will never accept leaving the EU) but you are right he has consistently prioritized party unity over his preferred EU policy in the past (i.e. when he was forced to concede the referendum) and he might well do so again.Charles said:
Richard, you don't know the way that Cameron thinks.Richard_Tyndall said:
And I wonder at what point Hannan will realise that Cameron will keep us in the EU no matter what. His position within the Tory party will become untenable before we reach referendum day.Richard_Nabavi said:
Well, quite. Hannan is that rare thing: a rational BOOer.TheScreamingEagles said:
We should keep on reminding Kippers of that Hannan article, for only this part
....Plus, obviously, he [Cameron] represents our one chance of a referendum on leaving the EU.
The one thing that he will not sacrifice is the Tory Party: he doesn't want to go down in history as the man who split it.
If he can't carry 2/3 of his party with him (i.e. supporting staying in on renegotiated terms) he will support 'out'.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/01/26/davd-herson-cameron-must-be-clear-that-he-might-vote-no/
Basically, if Cameron can't carry his party on the deal on offer, he'll be stuffed unless he walks on the negotiations. If he gets a deal, he'll have to back it - so he's got to make the call while the talks are on as to whether it's saleable or not.0 -
Story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27829958Omnium said:Why on earth is Ed apologising for being photographed with a copy of the Sun? I suspect almost everyone in the country has purchased a copy at one time or another. (Even I have - once I think).
If Ed does become PM he'll need to be a little less sensitive to this sort of thing. Perhaps it makes him more human and likeable to be pussy-footing about, but it also substantially damages the confidence that one might choose to place in him.
I'm sure it's an aberration, but it really has struck me as one of the oddest things he's done. (And as he is a bit odd, mostly in good ways, then that's quite an achievement)
Scroll down to see Cameron, Bojo and Farage managing to look normal with a newspaper by pretending to read it.
ed's intellectual self-confidence comes to the fore again.
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ISIS-linked group claims responsibility for kidnapping three Israeli teens...
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Spain will not forget this night.0
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This is getting utterly embarrassing for Spain.0
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Iranian general in Baghdad to assist in defence of the capital...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/iran-general-assists-with-preparing-baghdad-defence-from-insurgents-isis0 -
I will make a profit of £22 tonight on a £5 bet so thanks Holland.0
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Phenomenal betting turnover on the Spain vs Netherlands game with over £21M matched so far on Betfair.
Instead of betting on the football, perhaps instead we should be buying shares in the betting exchange as well as in the likes of Hills, Ladbrokes, etc.0 -
An interesting thing for Mountbatten to do. I believe he was decidedly frosty to the Japanese until he died wasn't he?Richard_Tyndall said:
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Perhaps they should have taken a leaf out of Mountbatten's book. At the end of WW2 after the Japanese surrendered, they were still the only effective police force across large areas of south-east Asia. Mountbatten recognised this and made use of the Japanese army as (usually unarmed) police. In a number of cases in Vietnam he actually rearmed Japanese troops and used them to help regain control of towns which had rebelled against the returning French rule.
However that isn't the same thing. A thin colonial force trying to supplant another thin colonial force.
Iraq was an invasion of a sovereign nation by another (ok coalition of), and the goal was regime change. It's hard to see that this goal is dissimilar to the invasion of Germany or Japan.
Something is different. My suspicion is that it may be something to do with the value of life that the invaded people have. The Germans and the Japanese had a huge incentive to regain that value of life, but the Iraqi's (many of them anyway) have never enjoyed a life that is worth fighting for. However this is mere conjecture, and I'm sure that there are many reasons.
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A massive thank you to TSE for the football tips today.0
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What is the record for the Dutch?0
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Another goal for Netherlands!0
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Whoa 5-1 who'd have thought that?!?0
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My pleasure, my betting strategy is always back the outsider in the group games, there are always upsets and generally profitable.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:A massive thank you to TSE for the football tips today.
This is Dockside hooker when the fleet is in territory.0 -
I lost £100 with the Newark by-election, I ought to confess.0
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Never forget Franco 1936 Spain!
Never forget your neutrality 1939!
Never forget you supported Argentina 1982!
You're going down like the Belgrano glug glug glug!
Most hated team lose - party time!0 -
Bragging Rights Post
Me and Ms Briskin bet on Holland0 -
12-2, to the English amateur team in 1907, apparently.Speedy said:What is the record for the Dutch?
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No when 2 fleets are inTheScreamingEagles said:
My pleasure, my betting strategy is always back the outsider in the group games, there are always upsets and generally profitable.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:A massive thank you to TSE for the football tips today.
This is Dockside hooker when the fleet is in territory.0 -
Thanks to TSE for the tips.0
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So will Casillas be dropped for the next game?0
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Israel is afraid about Jordan and the Golan but so far this ISIS thing has only increased the anti palestinian feelings.RodCrosby said:ISIS-linked group claims responsibility for kidnapping three Israeli teens...
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As I won't be onsite until tomorrow evening, my football tips for tomorrow are
Greece to beat Colombia, Costa Rica to beat Uruguay.
I've backed Italy to win tomorrow, I'll probably back England just before the start of the match, if you have the mobile apps for the bookies, they generally do a price boost an hour or so before kick off.
Also backed Gary Cahill as FGS, you can still get 40/1.
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Also I backed Australia to win tonight as well ICYMI, even if they don't win, will still be a profitable night.0
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The Ave It Memorial Post:
Cons = NED, Lab = SPN
LibDems = match officials in Brazil v Croatia.....0 -
Reuters: Iran open to working with US in Iraq...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/13/us-iraq-security-iran-idUSKBN0EO0QH201406130 -
Much cheering and hooting of car horns in the street here.
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Those were the days.
OptaJoe @OptaJoe 2 mins
5 - Spain have conceded 5+ goals in an international for the first time since losing 6-2 to Scotland in June 1963. Gubbed.
Irvine Welsh @WelshIrvine 3 mins
The pain in Spain lies mainly in the game...
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@NateSilver538: The last time Spain conceded 5+ goals was June 13, 1963, in a friendly against Scotland.0
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Holland were 5.5 just before the match started.0
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And four years later, you became World Champions.Theuniondivvie said:Those were the days.
OptaJoe @OptaJoe 2 mins
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No, I'm not. I do follow the Syria situation quite closely, and I'm aware of the different designations, and who their key sponsors are (in this case Saudi Arabia). I'm not sure what you would call what we've been turning to ISIS if not a blind eye.Pulpstar said:
You're getting your ad-Dawlat al-Islāmiyya fī’l-‘Irāq wa’sh-Shām and Jabhat an-Nuṣrah li-Ahl ash-Shām mixed up.Luckyguy1983 said:
But these are the people we've been turning a blind eye to in Syria, because they've been attacking a Government we want to topple. Their actions in Syria have been exactly the same.Pulpstar said:
They truly do fit the description of TERRORists.RodCrosby said:18.21
ISIS have tweeted the decapitated head of what appears to be an Iraqi policeman with the sentence 'This is our football, it's made of skin #World Cup', followed by a boast of having slaughtered 1,700 soldiers.0 -
Broken Sleazy Spain on the slide0
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Presumably even higher when Spain went one up....AndyJS said:Holland were 5.5 just before the match started.
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Also, another tip, this is a good time to back Spain to win the cup outright, they are high as 11/1
Decent trading bet, even if they finish second in the group, they will play Brazil in the next round, and I can still see Spain winning that.0 -
Although, we have probably seen the most embarrassing attempt at a celebratory high-five from the Netherlands.....0
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Time to kick Espana out of EU until they deal with their 50% unemployed spongers0
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Around 20 I think.MarqueeMark said:
Presumably even higher when Spain went one up....AndyJS said:Holland were 5.5 just before the match started.
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LOL like Lab Spain will never win again!!!!!MarqueeMark said:The Ave It Memorial Post:
Cons = NED, Lab = SPN
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Baxtered had an entirely different meaning in those days.TheScreamingEagles said:
And four years later, you became World Champions.Theuniondivvie said:Those were the days.
OptaJoe @OptaJoe 2 mins
5 - Spain have conceded 5+ goals in an international for the first time since losing 6-2 to Scotland in June 1963. Gubbed.
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Re Ed's problem with The Sun and Liverpool, this now means, Bootle is a nailed on Con GAIN right?Ave_it said:
LOL like Lab Spain will never win again!!!!!MarqueeMark said:The Ave It Memorial Post:
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Ave_it!!!!!!! The man who is always on a hat-trick!!0
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HahaTheuniondivvie said:
Baxtered had an entirely different meaning in those days.TheScreamingEagles said:
And four years later, you became World Champions.Theuniondivvie said:Those were the days.
OptaJoe @OptaJoe 2 mins
5 - Spain have conceded 5+ goals in an international for the first time since losing 6-2 to Scotland in June 1963. Gubbed.0 -
Time to rescind Del Bosque's marquisate!!0
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Also backed the Netherlands at 14/1 to win the Coupe du Monde.0
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That is a horrible goal difference for Spain to be carrying.......0
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With Blair Minor the likely Labour candidate in Bootle, could there be a better result on the night?TheScreamingEagles said:
Re Ed's problem with The Sun and Liverpool, this now means, Bootle is a nailed on Con GAIN right?
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Con gain Morley and Outwood would be the ultimate.MarqueeMark said:
With Blair Minor the likely Labour candidate in Bootle, could there be a better result on the night?TheScreamingEagles said:
Re Ed's problem with The Sun and Liverpool, this now means, Bootle is a nailed on Con GAIN right?0 -
All about the 1485 Armada!
And Trafalgar 1805!
and culloden 1745 (sorry got confused that's 18 September)
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From my experience Sir Bob works hard for his constituents and will take some digging out.Stuart_Dickson said:Lib Dems lengthening in Colchester (LD Maj = 6,982)
LD 2/9 (from 1/5)
Con 3/1 (from 7/2)
UKIP 33/1 (from 66/1)
Lab 50/1 (n/c)0 -
Oop Holland!
The best team to never win the cup. They took out Brazil in 2010...0 -
Castration strategy!!TheScreamingEagles said:
Con gain Morley and Outwood would be the ultimate.MarqueeMark said:
With Blair Minor the likely Labour candidate in Bootle, could there be a better result on the night?TheScreamingEagles said:
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TSE etc of course Bootle was con gain anyway!
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Don't the head-to-head results count first?MarqueeMark said:That is a horrible goal difference for Spain to be carrying.......
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Holland or Hollande - what a difference an e can make.....0
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1485? Were those traitorous Lancastrians funded by the Spanish?Ave_it said:All about the 1485 Armada!
And Trafalgar 1805!
and culloden 1745 (sorry got confused that's 18 September)
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See heredavid_herdson said:
Don't the head-to-head results count first?MarqueeMark said:That is a horrible goal difference for Spain to be carrying.......
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2061793-brazil-world-cup-2014-clarifying-group-tie-break-scenarios-and-rules0