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Should be an interesting story.0
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I wonder what the odds are of Sally Bercow tweeting
"Why is Nigel Evans trending?"
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I'm going to hell, I laughed at the phrase "Detectives from Lancashire Police swooped on Mr Evans’ cottage in the Lancashire village of Pendleton this morning"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-evans-top-tory-mp-18700630 -
Blimey. Let's hope that, whatever the result, there's a stack of evidence on the right side so it's very clear as to whether he's guilty or innocent.0
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Is cottaging still illegal?0
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If he has to resign, this is UKIP's first Pariamentary constituency.0
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Wow.
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FPT
"Under first past the post there is no point whatsoever in putting any effort at all into seats where you are not in contention and are never likely to be in contention."
The obvious rebuttal is that if you never put in effort, of course you're never bloody likely to be in contention!
There is no way, none, that the admitted fact that piling in resources into areas where you are weak is not sensible when resources are limited, in any way makes it somehow ok for a party to be utterly obliterated in large swathes of areas, because it's not like they were going to win, you know, so having any voters in that area at all is clearly a complete waste, so why not just effing celebrate that there is no hope of one day increasing support there?
In fact, let's just tell people considering voting one way which has no hope of winning a seat, to stop doing it, you fools, they'll never win there so stop being pathetic. Move to an area which matches your politics, silly voter.0 -
IIRC the public lavatories provision was removed about a decade ago, and re-catergorised under indecent exposure.Peter_2 said:Is cottaging still illegal?
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As Father Ted would no doubt tell us, "careful now!"0
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Is Finbarr Saunders a Mirror Journalist?0
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Shocking new story - seems to have come out of nowhere, which is good, as you wouldn't want rumours of something afoot like this leaking out.0
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I'm a bit lost re this story - its two incidents with women - but he's come out in 2010 as gay?
EDIT - ah - its two men, that makes more sense. I was most perplexed.0 -
No, it is two men making the allegations.Plato said:I'm a bit lost re this story - its two incidents with women - but he's come out in 2010 as gay?
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No charges yet, tim.tim said:Difficult to bring extra shame on a seat represented by David Waddington, looks like Evans may be having a go.
The key question appears to me how rape can be committed over a period of time (Brunt a little confused over this but it appeared to be a period of years)?
Are we talking two incidents or a series of incidents with two victims.
Odd.
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Ooooh Ribble Valley. Not exactly a marginal but this could be veeeeery interesting ...
Meanwhile think this might be the first time I've ever agreed with Norman Tebbit. His analysis seems pretty spot on to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22414588
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Men, not women.Plato said:I'm a bit lost re this story - its two incidents with women - but he's come out in 2010 as gay?
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The seat went to the yellow peril in the 1991 by-electionRicardohos said:Ooooh Ribble Valley. Not exactly a marginal but this could be veeeeery interesting ...
Meanwhile think this might be the first time I've ever agreed with Norman Tebbit. His analysis seems pretty spot on to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-224145880 -
Would Farage go for it ? Would have to defend in sub 18 months by time of any legal recourse.0
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribble_Valley_(UK_Parliament_constituency)Sean_F said:If he has to resign, this is UKIP's first Pariamentary constituency.
UKIP got nearly 7% in 2010.
Conservative Nigel Evans 26,298 50.3 +5.4
Labour Paul Foster 11,529 22.0 −7.8
Liberal Democrat Allan Knox 10,732 20.5 −2.1
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The guy is of course innocent until /unless proved guilty.0
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I was just going to suggest that. Great minds and all that.............williamglenn said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribble_Valley_(UK_Parliament_constituency)Sean_F said:If he has to resign, this is UKIP's first Pariamentary constituency.
UKIP got nearly 7% in 2010.
Conservative Nigel Evans 26,298 50.3 +5.4
Labour Paul Foster 11,529 22.0 −7.8
Liberal Democrat Allan Knox 10,732 20.5 −2.1
UKIP Stephen Rush 3,496 6.7 +4.0
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Andrea posted recent results from the locals on the last thread.williamglenn said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribble_Valley_(UK_Parliament_constituency)Sean_F said:If he has to resign, this is UKIP's first Pariamentary constituency.
UKIP got nearly 7% in 2010.
Conservative Nigel Evans 26,298 50.3 +5.4
Labour Paul Foster 11,529 22.0 −7.8
Liberal Democrat Allan Knox 10,732 20.5 −2.1
UKIP Stephen Rush 3,496 6.7 +4.0AndreaParma_82 said:Ribble Valley constituency is the whole Ribble Valley District + the following 10 wards from South Ribble:
Ribble Valley District is covered by 4 County Divisions
In 3 UKIP didn't stand
In 1 they polled 23% to Tory 54%
Going over South Ribble District...
Bamber Bridges and Walton le Dale division: Lab 40 Con 39 UKIP 20
South Ribble Rural East Con 43 Lab 20 UKIP 18
Farington: Con 38 Lab 37 UKIP 19
The 10th ward is within a division with 2 wards not part of the constituency. FWIW the division total was Lab 41 Con 35 UKIP 20
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I thought we weren't allowed to discuss this sort of thing on PB...0
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A reminder of what Nigel said only yesterday amusingly enough.
Nigel Farage Confirms He'll Fight The General Election - But Won't Say Where
Nigel Farage has confirmed he will be contesting the 2015 General Election - but has not yet decided where to run.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/03/nigel-farage-will-fight-the-next-general-election_n_3210671.html?utm_hp_ref=uk0 -
To illustrate how much boundary changes have affected Ribble Valley since 1992:
In 1992 Labour polled 6.5% compared to 35.3% in GB.
In 2010 Labour polled 22.0% compared to 29.7% in GB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribble_Valley_(UK_Parliament_constituency)0 -
Perhaps Tim could explain the Waddington reference, According to Wiki Waddington's defence team blundered badly in the case of Stephen Kiszko but why does that refect on the constituency?AveryLP said:
No charges yet, tim.tim said:Difficult to bring extra shame on a seat represented by David Waddington, looks like Evans may be having a go.
The key question appears to me how rape can be committed over a period of time (Brunt a little confused over this but it appeared to be a period of years)?
Are we talking two incidents or a series of incidents with two victims.
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Maybe a recent accusation leading to an older one being made/taken more seriously.AveryLP said:
No charges yet, tim.tim said:Difficult to bring extra shame on a seat represented by David Waddington, looks like Evans may be having a go.
The key question appears to me how rape can be committed over a period of time (Brunt a little confused over this but it appeared to be a period of years)?
Are we talking two incidents or a series of incidents with two victims.
Odd.
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Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.0
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Perhaps the Conservatives should draft Mr Tebbit as their candidate in Ribble, then they could follow up with a leadership election if the voters sent him to Westminster! :-)Ricardohos said:Ooooh Ribble Valley. Not exactly a marginal but this could be veeeeery interesting ...
Meanwhile think this might be the first time I've ever agreed with Norman Tebbit. His analysis seems pretty spot on to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22414588
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Hmmmm
The British National Party has urged its members to procreate after it lost every seat it contested in the English local elections on Thursday.
The BNP fielded 99 candidates but did not win a seat. It lost the one county council seat it held in Lancashire, leaving Nick Griffin's party with just two councillors.
In a post on the party's website, members are urged to have bigger families to counter large families had by non-Britons.
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There seems to be a load of inconsistency re when police release details of who has been arrested. Bill Roache's name only came out after he was charged.Only this week a Police Inspector being queastioned over fraud in the Force had his name protected by the polkice on the grounds that he had not been charged. Today Evans' name is plastered all over the media and yet he haas not actually been charged. We do need a consistent approach by the Police on this , otherwise they could be seen as acting in a biased way or carrying out theor own agenda.0
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Mr. Buss, I agree entirely.
The police's behaviour must both be and be seen to be pristine. Not unkempt.0 -
Total rubbish. Blair had a massive majority without Ribble Valley. If this is a must win for anyone it would be Cameron.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
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Warwickshire police changed their policy, and did name the ex officer in the endpeterbuss said:There seems to be a load of inconsistency re when police release details of who has been arrested. Bill Roache's name only came out after he was charged.Only this week a Police Inspector being queastioned over fraud in the Force had his name protected by the polkice on the grounds that he had not been charged. Today Evans' name is plastered all over the media and yet he haas not actually been charged. We do need a consistent approach by the Police on this , otherwise they could be seen as acting in a biased way or carrying out theor own agenda.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10035321/Warwickshire-police-blames-cuts-for-naming-policy-U-turn.html0 -
Farage would surely run in the south east. He's from Westerham which is in Sevenoaks and therefore a bit too Tory. But heading west to the Kent coast or south to the retirement towns of Sussex, he'd likely get a victory.
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I don't think that's true. The news of his arrest broke in the morning and then he was charged after a day of questioning.peterbuss said:Bill Roache's name only came out after he was charged.
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You don't think this political 'titan' should be given another chance at some point?anotherDave said:Perhaps the Conservatives should draft Mr Tebbit as their candidate in Ribble,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVnWLRVJkwM
For comedy if for nothing else.
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Jonathan said:
Total rubbish. Blair had a massive majority without Ribble Valley. If this is a must win for anyone it would be Cameron.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
Blair in opposition would have walked this. Who's the real opposition now , UKIP or Labour ?
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peterbuss Posts: 7
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NuLabour's stormtroopers have long been a law unto themselves.0 -
Farage will not run in a by-election. A by-election, especially one where there is focus on UKIP (as there would be in a hypothetical by-election in Ribble Valley) is an opportunity to give media exposure to other new faces in the party, as happens with Diane James and to a lesser extent Jane Collins and Richard Elvin.
Further, if Farage gets in he has to quit as an MEP, meaning he will be hedging a lot on being re-elected at the General Election in less than two years, a big gamble. If he waits till the General Election he will still be an MEP if he fails and probably have 4-5 years in Parliament at least if he succeeds.
Farage standing as a candidate now would be a terrible blunder for UKIP.0 -
UKIP to win a by-election before the next election 5/2
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/other-politics/uk-politics/Will-UKIP-win-a-by-election-before-the-next-general-election?-4541429.html0 -
People say that about every blooming By-election. For very difficult ones, they at least qualify it as 'if they don't get at least x, it's a failure', to try and make the failure of another party seen lesser.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
It never works.
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The Mirror article linked to below is more specific than the Sky News report:Carola said:
Maybe a recent accusation leading to an older one being made/taken more seriously.AveryLP said:
No charges yet, tim.tim said:Difficult to bring extra shame on a seat represented by David Waddington, looks like Evans may be having a go.
The key question appears to me how rape can be committed over a period of time (Brunt a little confused over this but it appeared to be a period of years)?
Are we talking two incidents or a series of incidents with two victims.
Odd.
On the tiime period in which the offences were alleged to have been committed:
“The offences are alleged to have been committed in Pendleton between July 2009 and March 2013.
On the linkage between the two alleged victims:
Two men are believed to have made the allegations and given statements about the sex attacks to police last week.
A source said: “The two men went to police claiming that Nigel had attacked them. It came as a bolt from the blue when police turned up at his door yesterday morning and arrested him.
Still important to treat all unofficial sources of information as speculative.0 -
Looks like A Ribble Valley campaign for UKIP then. A Clitheroe kid to wipe the floor with the opposition is needed.0
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He's got the 2014 EU and local elections ahead. I'd be very surprised if he put himself forward as a candidate here.kle4 said:
Hmm, hasn't Farage been trying to emphasize local candidates for UKIP? If so, would it be in his general area?TGOHF said:Would Farage go for it ? Would have to defend in sub 18 months by time of any legal recourse.
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Well let's just hope that justice is done, one way or the other...0
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Expect to see stories about him 'bottling it' if he doesn't nevertheless.ojcorbs said:Farage will not run in a by-election. A by-election, especially one where there is focus on UKIP (as there would be in a hypothetical by-election in Ribble Valley) is an opportunity to give media exposure to other new faces in the party, as happens with Diane James and to a lesser extent Jane Collins and Richard Elvin.
Further, if Farage gets in he has to quit as an MEP, meaning he will be hedging a lot on being re-elected at the General Election in less than two years, a big gamble. If he waits till the General Election he will still be an MEP if he fails and probably have 4-5 years in Parliament at least if he succeeds.
Farage standing as a candidate now would be a terrible blunder for UKIP.
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Eh? Blair didn't win Ribble Valley in 1997.MonikerDiCanio said:Jonathan said:
Total rubbish. Blair had a massive majority without Ribble Valley. If this is a must win for anyone it would be Cameron.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
Blair in opposition would have walked this. Who's the real opposition now , UKIP or Labour ?0 -
Is there a record for the highest number of MPs imprisoned during the term of a parliament?0
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If, if there is a by election, then I suspect farage wouldn't stand. A fairly well to do southern guy... no, better some working class rough I think.0
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Ribble Valley District County Divisions
Ribble Valley NE Con 1970 UKIP 845 Lab 574 LD 231
Ribble Valley SW Con 2129 Lab 565 LD 236
Clitheroe: Con 1061 No Descr (UKIP 2010 GE candidate) 1016 LD 932 Lab 378
Longridge with Bowland: Con 1932 Lab 626 LD 207
South Ribble District divsions
Bamber Bridge & Walton-le-Dale: Lab 1151 Con 1120 UKIP 594
Farington: Con 980 Lab 958 UKIP 499 LD 107
South Ribble Rural East: Con 1288 Lab 616 UKIP 557 Ind 505
+ Tardy Gate ward which is in a division with 2 wards from another constituency0 -
We'll either get a by-election very quickly or not for a very considerable period of time (if at all). The latter is more likely. I wouldn't be rushing to place those UKIP bets just yet.0
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UKIP have apparently identified some target seats already. If Mr Farage does stand for Westminster in 2015, he'll pick a cert.Blueberry said:Farage would surely run in the south east. He's from Westerham which is in Sevenoaks and therefore a bit too Tory. But heading west to the Kent coast or south to the retirement towns of Sussex, he'd likely get a victory.
http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/31242/#Comment_31242
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Would be strange if Farage stood in any By Election prior to the euro elections next year. He has said many times that he wouldnt0
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Neither Labour not LDs can win a by-election in Ribble Valley. That means a lot of their supporters would vote UKIP to defeat the Tories.0
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I see Ladbrokes have suspended the UKIP price on Eastleigh on the next GE..
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One of the inevitable consequences of results like Stewart Hall is that the police and the prosecuting authorities get more gung ho about bringing cases like this where there is almost certainly no forensic evidence.
We saw a similar effect on the expenses scandals where the police got more and more aggressive as juries happily convicted.
This case is too soon to be a direct effect but it does seem inevitable that one of the consequences of the Saville investigations is that a lot more of these cases will come forward.0 -
If there is a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filled? A betting market?0
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In more important news, two weeks until the Eurovision song contest.
And hopefully you'll be getting a thread on it, by yours truly.0 -
I presume there's some mixing and matching going on in the assumption. That is, Blair in opposition would have walked a contest, in the current context, whereas Ed M would not.Jonathan said:
Eh? Blair didn't win Ribble Valley in 1997.MonikerDiCanio said:Jonathan said:
Total rubbish. Blair had a massive majority without Ribble Valley. If this is a must win for anyone it would be Cameron.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
Blair in opposition would have walked this. Who's the real opposition now , UKIP or Labour ?
Seems spurious.
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Jim Waterson @jimwaterson
Nice of @SimonDanczuk to go through past tweets deleting mentions of Nigel Evans MP before he's even charged.
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Elected by the whole houseitdoesntaddup said:If there iis a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filed? A betting market?
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05375.pdf0 -
Agreed. Unless there is a plea this will be into next year. I really can't see why he would resign prior to conviction or plea. Even our former SoS for the Environment didn't.antifrank said:We'll either get a by-election very quickly or not for a very considerable period of time (if at all). The latter is more likely. I wouldn't be rushing to place those UKIP bets just yet.
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There is a danger for ed though. It should be Labour making all the running, and all the good news being about them. But it's not, it's ukip.Jonathan said:
Eh? Blair didn't win Ribble Valley in 1997.MonikerDiCanio said:Jonathan said:
Total rubbish. Blair had a massive majority without Ribble Valley. If this is a must win for anyone it would be Cameron.MonikerDiCanio said:Ribble Valley should be a big test for " One Nation " EdMillionaire. If he can't bag this one , he'll never be PM.
Blair in opposition would have walked this. Who's the real opposition now , UKIP or Labour ?
As said, the next two years could be not about him...at least in the eyes of the media
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Technically I don't think it's true that you can't be both an MEP and an MP. In practice of course it's not feasible to do both jobs sensibly, but it's like being London Mayor and an MP - you could maybe get away with it for a year or so without too much outrage.
Indeed, one could say it'd be an interesting challenge for Boris.0 -
@TheScreamingEagles Avicii are working with Benny and Bjorn for Eurovision. Every other Eurovision story pales into insignificance by comparison with that.0
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Cromwell imprisoned the whole House.williamglenn said:Is there a record for the highest number of MPs imprisoned during the term of a parliament?
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That's the basis of my thread.antifrank said:@TheScreamingEagles Avicii are working with Benny and Bjorn for Eurovision. Every other Eurovision story pales into insignificance by comparison with that.
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Ah. Well, I guess it's wait and see.AveryLP said:
The Mirror article linked to below is more specific than the Sky News report:Carola said:
Maybe a recent accusation leading to an older one being made/taken more seriously.AveryLP said:
No charges yet, tim.tim said:Difficult to bring extra shame on a seat represented by David Waddington, looks like Evans may be having a go.
The key question appears to me how rape can be committed over a period of time (Brunt a little confused over this but it appeared to be a period of years)?
Are we talking two incidents or a series of incidents with two victims.
Odd.
On the tiime period in which the offences were alleged to have been committed:
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Sorry if this has been linked to already, I have been out a lot of the day. A brilliant Matt (again): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/0
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If Evans is innocent, or was cleared after a trial, could he sue Lancs Police?0
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Not really.dr_spyn said:If Evans is innocent, could he sue Lancs Police?
They have a duty investigate all allegations made to them.
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Back to Tebbit, I know I'm not the first to say or think it, but I really don't see the logic of how promising a date for an EU referendum would draw people back to the Cameroon Tories, because Cameron still wants to be in the EU, and they don't. They'll like the opportunity to vote sooner, but won't thank the Cameroons for it.0
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Nick
The Euro double mandates had been banned in 2004 with sitting MEPs having a sunset clause until 2009. The government had to make a special law in the meantime for LibDem Baroness Ludford as the Euro law talked about National Parliaments including the House of Lords.
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I think you mistook my intention: who would be the runners and riders, at what odds?TheScreamingEagles said:
Elected by the whole houseitdoesntaddup said:If there iis a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filed? A betting market?
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05375.pdf
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John Rentoul has found a bad news angle for Ed Miliband (no surprise there):
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/05/04/labour-lost-more-votes-than-tories-as-ukip-surged/0 -
A bit naughty of them to compare apples to oranges.antifrank said:John Rentoul has found a bad news angle for Ed Miliband (no surprise there):
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/05/04/labour-lost-more-votes-than-tories-as-ukip-surged/
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I wonder if he will name the former Labour MP at some point.
Nigel Evans came out as gay in 2010 after revealing that he was ‘tired of living a lie’.
The Deputy Speaker of the Commons revealed that he had received threats of blackmail in the past from political enemies who wanted to expose him, including a former Labour MP.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319485/BREAKING-NEWS-Deputy-speaker-Nigel-Evans-arrested-suspicion-rape-sexual-assault-men.html#ixzz2SM5CXfg5
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Well it would have to be someone from the Tory side.itdoesntaddup said:
I think you mistook my intention: who would be the runners and riders, at what odds?TheScreamingEagles said:
Elected by the whole houseitdoesntaddup said:If there iis a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filed? A betting market?
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05375.pdf
I don't think was a market last time for Deputy Speakers.
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AndreaParma_82 said:
Nick
The Euro double mandates had been banned in 2004 with sitting MEPs having a sunset clause until 2009. The government had to make a special law in the meantime for LibDem Baroness Ludford as the Euro law talked about National Parliaments including the House of Lords.
If numb-skulls like the Kinnocks can manage multiple EU and UK jobs simultaneously , I'm sure Farage will cope.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192894/Revealed-How-Kinnocks-enjoyed-astonishing-10m-ride-EU-gravy-train.html0 -
A solution to the Dorries question?TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it would have to be someone from the Tory side.0 -
Why?timmo said:I see Ladbrokes have suspended the UKIP price on Eastleigh on the next GE..
Not surprised...Lib Dems could be toast
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A job for another Etonian then...TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it would have to be someone from the Tory side.itdoesntaddup said:
I think you mistook my intention: who would be the runners and riders, at what odds?TheScreamingEagles said:
Elected by the whole houseitdoesntaddup said:If there iis a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filed? A betting market?
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05375.pdf
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Meanwhile, in a personal report from Budapest, the police were out in force for this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22413301
Anti-Semitic views are depressingly easy to find in Hungary, but on a low level basis. As the report said, the numbers involved were relatively small. Meanwhile, "shalom" was being heard regularly on the streets without any obvious nervousness.0 -
I know Paul Nuttal's from Liverpool, but isn't that close enough for Ribble Valley?0
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I see the Mail is playing it down on the front pages with the usual Dacre 'style'.
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/77701/the_mail_on_sunday_saturday_4th_may_2013.html
Independent's front page is pretty funny though.
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Because its becoming obvious that the Tories will vote tactically in Eastleigh for UKIP. To kick the Lib Dems out.Monksfield said:
Why?timmo said:I see Ladbrokes have suspended the UKIP price on Eastleigh on the next GE..
Not surprised...Lib Dems could be toast
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Deputy Speaker election 2010
First preferences
Nigel Evans (Con) 124
Lindsay Hoyle (Lab) 90
Dawn Primarolo (Lab) 76
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (Con) 57
Roger Gale (Con) 48
Tom Clarke (Lab) 47
George Howarth (Lab) 40
Anne McIntosh (Con) 24
Marsha Singh (Lab) 9
Singh eliminated. Transfers:
2 each to Clarke, Gale, Hoyle, 1 each to McIntosh, Howarth, Primarolo
Transfers from McIntosh:
10 to Hoyle, 4 to Evans, 4 to CB, 3 to Gale, 1 to Clarke and Howarth. 2 Non Transferables
Transfers from Howarth:
16 to Primarolo, 9 to Clarke, 6 to Hoyle, 5 to Evans, 4 to CB, 2 to Gale
Evans reaches the quota and is elected.
Clifton Brown and Gale are eliminated as they are from government's side.
Transfers from them
53 to Hoyle, 35 to Primarolo, 9 to Clarke. 23 Not Transferables
Hoyle and Primarolo are elected.
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Surely, not.itdoesntaddup said:
A job for another Etonian then...TheScreamingEagles said:
Well it would have to be someone from the Tory side.itdoesntaddup said:
I think you mistook my intention: who would be the runners and riders, at what odds?TheScreamingEagles said:
Elected by the whole houseitdoesntaddup said:If there iis a vacancy as Deputy Speaker how might it be filed? A betting market?
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-05375.pdf
I don't think was a market last time for Deputy Speakers.
Deputy posts must be filled with Harrovians, Westminsters and Paulines.
At least David Davis would be satisfied.
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it's first news here too...Mick_Pork said:I see the Mail is playing it down on the front pages with the usual Dacre 'style'.
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/77701/the_mail_on_sunday_saturday_4th_may_2013.html
Independent's front page is pretty funny though.
http://www.repubblica.it/
http://www.lastampa.it/
but only second item on Corriere
http://www.corriere.it/
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Indeed. Huge splash. It's a Dacre dream story.dr_spyn said:@Mick_Pork
Evans is on the DM website - in between two fit young women and David Cameron
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Ribble Valley was one of only two seats the Tories lost in by-elections during the 1990s but then held/won back in 1997. The other was Christchurch.0
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Eastbourne should be on that list.AndyJS said:Ribble Valley was one of only two seats the Tories lost in by-elections during the 1990s but then held/won back in 1997. The other was Christchurch.
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