One for the night – politicalbetting.com
One for the night – politicalbetting.com
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first as Biden.0
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Sometimes an image really is worth a thousand words. Look at the sad posture, hunched shoulders, pot belly, it all fits.8
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Lol0
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This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:1 -
That’s ridiculous. Who on earth would ever consider Boris long-toiling?TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:3 -
Unbelievable that Betfair still hasn't settled Michigan. The results are now certified and there is no provision to recount under state law.4
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FTFYTheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill on which I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:3 -
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Die Hard is the best Christmas action movie ever!TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:4 -
I can’t be arsed to check but I am pretty sure that there have been very few days before today when there were more recorded deaths in Germany than here, possibly none.1
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"... on which I am prepared to die"TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
Yours is the sort of sentence up with which we will not put.4 -
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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Wow, good grievance-finding. Surely a promotion within the ranks can't be far away?Theuniondivvie said:
Britsplainers of Britain to the Jocks are the best 'splainers.Luckyguy1983 said:
I don't see what that has to do with anything. I am not aware of 18th century England being farmed for its use of understatement - my understanding is that the opposite is true. The tendency to understate originated (I imagine) in the 19th century, and is tied in with colonialism, notions of polite behaviour amongst the new industrial classes, the importance placed on hard work, thrift and not showing emotion in public, and were cemented in the early 20th century in the wars. All those things evolved in Britain amongst the British, and Scots influenced it and were influenced by it in turn. There's no language or tradition of understatement present in England that isn't present in Scotland too. When you are able to acknowledge these simple concepts and still support Scottish independence, it will indicate maturity.Theuniondivvie said:
Literally the first entry on GoogleLuckyguy1983 said:
Those are both British traits, rightly or wrongly.Theuniondivvie said:
England: stiff upper lips, understatementLadyG said:
That's a totally brilliant question. Things which countries are proud of but.... why?another_richard said:
Bizarre sources of national pride:LadyG said:
Awww, bless the French. Time was French was THE language of diplomacy, and high culture, spoken by anyone with a decent education, and used fluently as a lingua franca across the world. Also, of course, THE language of the EU (which is one reason the French were traditionally so keen on the EU - as a bulwark of French culture, especially language, then we joined and fucked it up)williamglenn said:
It's also been noticed in France that he's picked several fluent French speakers.ydoethur said:
Hmmm. I wonder if he isn’t making the same mistake as Obama and surrounding himself with too many older people. Harris, in her 60s, Blinken, 58, Mayorkas, 61, now Yellen, 74.williamglenn said:Janet Yellen Is Biden’s Pick for Treasury Secretary
https://www.wsj.com/articles/janet-yellen-is-bidens-pick-for-treasury-secretary-11606161637
I hope he brings through some people in their late 40s/early 50s in other roles.
Now they are pitiably grateful for some decent and temporary French speakers on the presidential team of a demented 98 year old US leader, even as China officially tweets in English.
There haven't been many reasons to feel triumphantly English in the last decades, but the absolute triumph of English is one of them. We won. And how.
France - the French language
UK - the NHS
any others ?
America: food - it's mostly terrible
Scotland: friendly people - OMG no
Spain: sociable Med warmth, no they are frosty (unlike Italians)
England: good governance - well, here we are
Germany: sausages :(oddly boring)
Canada: Tim Hortons
understatement
/ʌndəˈsteɪtm(ə)nt,ˈʌndəsteɪtm(ə)nt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: understatement; plural noun: understatements
the presentation of something as being smaller or less good or important than it really is.
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Have so many ever watched a state canvass meeting before . Michigan certifying the results is great news.2
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After Michigan certified on the last thread, Current Betfair prices:-
Biden 1.03
Democrats 1.04
Biden PV 1.02
Biden PV 49-51.9% 1.04
Trump PV 46-48.9% 1.04
Trump ECV 210-239 1.06
Biden ECV 300-329 1.06
Biden ECV Hcap -48.5 1.04
Biden ECV Hcap -63.5 1.05
Trump ECV Hcap +81.5 1.02
AZ Dem 1.03
GA Dem 1.04
MI Dem 1.02
NV Dem 1.03
PA Dem 1.04
WI Dem 1.04
Trump to leave before end of term NO 1.08
Trump exit date 2021 1.08
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My prediction for the election was 279-259 and it's annoying to get within about 24,000 switchers of the correct result out of around 155 million votes cast in total.0
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I’m happy to accept the idea of god as a long-toiling female immunologist.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
Toiling is not an activity I associate with Johnson.0 -
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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Wasn’t a bad forecast.Andy_JS said:My prediction for the election was 279-259 and it's annoying to get within about 24,000 switchers of the correct result out of around 155 million votes cast in total.
AFAIK @OnlyLivingBoy was the sole PBer to get it spot on on, although he had a slightly different mix of states (-GA, +NC, +ME1 I think?)0 -
If that isn't conclusive proof of the result, I don't know what is quite frankly!Sunil_Prasannan said:0 -
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Even the Oxford comma would entirely exorcise the ambiguity. You’d have to reverse the construction thus: Boris Johnson, God, and two female...TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:0 -
Anonymous wee folk on the internet wibbling about grievance-finding are the least of my grievances, I can assure you.Luckyguy1983 said:
Wow, good grievance-finding. Surely a promotion within the ranks can't be far away?0 -
I don't think he has to work that hard to get a headline he wants in The Telegraph, for the most part.CarlottaVance said:Boris got the headline he wanted......
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They still had hopes of over turning the result then. How those who ended up joining Change UK/TIG, even tried to justify their behaviour, after being elected as MPs on a pledge to respect the referendum result, was beyond me. Quite fitting that they all lost their seatsCarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
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I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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Lol, Govey's gone full Nats under the bed!
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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1330975156014112768?s=20
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No assurance necessary, I would expect nothing less than a long and formidable list.Theuniondivvie said:
Anonymous wee folk on the internet wibbling about grievance-finding are the least of my grievances, I can assure you.Luckyguy1983 said:
Wow, good grievance-finding. Surely a promotion within the ranks can't be far away?1 -
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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no win, no fee wasn't it?Scott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=190 -
https://twitter.com/Hariboconomics/status/1330998441644871681
Hey, BoZo really has been playing Pharmy, Pharm...0 -
If people used the colon correctly then we wouldn’t so easily misread a comma for one in the first place.Anabobazina said:
Even the Oxford comma would entirely exorcise the ambiguity. You’d have to reverse the construction thus: Boris Johnson, God, and two female...TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:1 -
Ghoul vs Ghouliani.Scott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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One imagines that she's in line for a royal dukedom in the coming months.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/Hariboconomics/status/1330998441644871681
Hey, BoZo really has been playing Pharmy, Pharm...0 -
So are you saying what we need is a sort of cleanse of the colon?IanB2 said:
If people used the colon correctly then we wouldn’t so easily misread a comma for one in the first place.Anabobazina said:
Even the Oxford comma would entirely exorcise the ambiguity. You’d have to reverse the construction thus: Boris Johnson, God, and two female...TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:0 -
The Sunday night slot is usually for undemanding gentle nostalgia, not usually such innovative stuff. Brave of the BBC to give it such a time, but Steve McQueen deserves it, as do the other talents on display.FrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=19
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@Luckyguy: My point being, the Scots are hardly terrible at it either. If you can find a single example of a phrase of 'English understatement' that isn't also common parlance in Scotland, I'll be not entirely unimpressed.
@Carnyx: Aye, right.
@Luckyguy1983: On you go then.
@Carnyx: That WAS the understatement andf you completely missed it - the distinctive Scots double positive functioning as a negative, as TUD, Stuart D, and Malky will chorus.0 -
What a guy. At last signs of decent, sane GOP.Scott_xP said:0 -
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Let's forget about the fact that Hillary Clinton called for Joe Biden to refuse to concede the election "under any circumtances".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n12381561 -
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My map https://www.270towin.com/maps/n0A9k gave the same numbers but I had Biden picking up NC and 1 EV from NE and not flipping GA.Anabobazina said:
Wasn’t a bad forecast.Andy_JS said:My prediction for the election was 279-259 and it's annoying to get within about 24,000 switchers of the correct result out of around 155 million votes cast in total.
AFAIK @OnlyLivingBoy was the sole PBer to get it spot on on, although he had a slightly different mix of states (-GA, +NC, +ME1 I think?)0 -
@Carnyx: Aye, right.Carnyx said:FPT and stripping out the mess of blockquotes
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@Luckyguy: My point being, the Scots are hardly terrible at it either. If you can find a single example of a phrase of 'English understatement' that isn't also common parlance in Scotland, I'll be not entirely unimpressed.
@Luckyguy1983: On you go then.
@Carnyx: That WAS the understatement andf you completely missed it - the distinctive Scots double positive functioning as a negative, as TUD, Stuart D, and Malky will chorus.
I've always thought of Aye right as a sarcastic rebuke, rather than an example of understatement. Of course Scotland has its own examples of typically Scottish (perhaps even Aberdonian!) understatement, but what I'm arguing is that there's no 'English' understatement. You don't stop hearing 'could have gone better' and the like when you cross the border.0 -
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Why exactly are we loosening the tiers by allowing sports crowds, indoor business events and 5 day Xmas parties?isam said:
We will need at least another month of complete lockdown again in January or February.0 -
That's the plan.noneoftheabove said:
Why exactly are we loosening the tiers by allowing sports crowds, indoor business events and 5 day Xmas parties?isam said:
We will need at least another month of complete lockdown again in January or February.
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I notice from the front pages seems to have learned from their initial incorrrct reports on how effective the oxford vaccine is. Check BBC website....nope still...sniffs....fiddles with mic...WROOONGGG...0
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That is a shame as it was very good but I'm really not surprised - people may not be racist but they just aren't interested in the history of others different to themselvesFrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=190 -
Do we think “inside: your guide to lockdown lift-off” will be similarly on message?CarlottaVance said:Boris got the headline he wanted......
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1330993306344566785?s=20
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Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
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That's disappointing. Real quality TV but if the first didn't find an audience the second certainly won'tFrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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Johnson should resign as soon as possible and let someone else take over. Sunak, or someone else. Anyone.0
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Rudy is just doing what any sensible lawyer does, start the clock and rack up as many legal fees as possible, it does not matter whether Trump loses he still gets paidScott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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He's expecting to get paid?HYUFD said:
Rudy is just doing what any sensible lawyer does, start the clock and rack up as many legal fees as possible, it does not matter whether Trump loses he still gets paidScott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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Yep, Trump is renowned for paying up for services rendered, especially when those services result in failure.HYUFD said:
Rudy is just doing what any sensible lawyer does, start the clock and rack up as many legal fees as possible, it does not matter whether Trump loses he still gets paidScott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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It might be as Foxy says that prime time slot is usually filled with the bodyguard or poldark. Nothing too hard on a sunday night before the start of a new week.eek said:
That is a shame as it was very good but I'm really not surprised - people may not be racist but they just aren't interested in the history of others different to themselvesFrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Clinton saying he should not concede if Trump is leading in the vote count on election night with absentee ballots still to come in?Andy_JS said:Let's forget about the fact that Hillary Clinton called for Joe Biden to refuse to concede the election "under any circumtances".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n12381560 -
FFS. It's like July never happened.IanB2 said:
Do we think “inside: your guide to lockdown lift-off” will be similarly on message?CarlottaVance said:Boris got the headline he wanted......
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Am enjoying Queen's Gambit very much. Thanks to all who recommended it a couple of days ago.1
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“Some sort of a deal, some scrap of a deal, gives us something to build on”?CarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/status/1330988864614313993?s=20
So the only way for leavers to save brexit is the no deal brexit route. Any form of compromise, any form of deal, is just allowing remainers to build us back closer in future.0 -
Apparently the viewership of chess content on youtube and twitch is through the roof owing to the series.dixiedean said:Am enjoying Queen's Gambit very much. Thanks to all who recommended it a couple of days ago.
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Small Axe 2nd episode last night got 1.2m (5.8% audience share) - a very, very low figure for prime-time BBC1.Roger said:
That's disappointing. Real quality TV but if the first didn't find an audience the second certainly won'tFrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=19
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For diehard No Deal Brexiteers the only acceptable form of Brexit is one that bricks up the channel tunnel and blows up Dovergealbhan said:
“Some sort of a deal, some scrap of a deal, gives us something to build on”?CarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/status/1330988864614313993?s=20
So the only way for leavers to save brexit is the no deal brexit route. Any form of compromise, any form of deal, is just allowing remainers to build us back closer in future.1 -
I apologise for not doing more to stop this lot from getting elected.Cyclefree said:Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
Thanks a fucking bunch!
I could have campaigned; I didn't. I could have donated to another party; I didn't.
I voted Lib Dem in a safe Labour seat, a decision I do not regret. But I knew this lot would be bad for the country, even if I could not predict exactly how. I knew.
And you all knew too. Deep down, you knew.2 -
Is there any evidence hospitality is less at risk? Plus you can still go to pubs and drink with a meal in Tier 2 and just drink in Tier 1, only in Tier 3 are they takeaway only.Cyclefree said:Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
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So who thinks the future of this we will be build back closer? And closer, And closer.HYUFD said:
For diehard No Deal Brexiteers the only acceptable form of Brexit is one that bricks up the channel tunnel and blows up Dovergealbhan said:
“Some sort of a deal, some scrap of a deal, gives us something to build on”?CarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/status/1330988864614313993?s=20
So the only way for leavers to save brexit is the no deal brexit route. Any form of compromise, any form of deal, is just allowing remainers to build us back closer in future.
Boris and his government have made it clear, demonstrating the fact, no further national votes are required before signing deals with EU, because he’s not having one on this deal.0 -
Yeah, imagine how foolish all those Clinton 2020 voters are feeling right now.Andy_JS said:Let's forget about the fact that Hillary Clinton called for Joe Biden to refuse to concede the election "under any circumtances".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156
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Knew what? That there would be a once-in-a-century pandemic the next year, that the government would have to lock down the economy to save lives, that it would have to borrow unprecedented sums - hundreds of billions in mere months - and still not be able to spend enough to make everyone happy?Roy_G_Biv said:
I apologise for not doing more to stop this lot from getting elected.Cyclefree said:Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
Thanks a fucking bunch!
I could have campaigned; I didn't. I could have donated to another party; I didn't.
I voted Lib Dem in a safe Labour seat, a decision I do not regret. But I knew this lot would be bad for the country, even if I could not predict exactly how. I knew.
And you all knew too. Deep down, you knew.
And the sodding Lib Dems would have saved us from all of that? Dream on.4 -
The BBC knew it was never a ratings winner so put it up against IAC where it wouldn't be expected to do any better.Foxy said:
The Sunday night slot is usually for undemanding gentle nostalgia, not usually such innovative stuff. Brave of the BBC to give it such a time, but Steve McQueen deserves it, as do the other talents on display.FrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=19
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And let’s not forget why she gave that advice.Andy_JS said:Let's forget about the fact that Hillary Clinton called for Joe Biden to refuse to concede the election "under any circumtances".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-biden-should-not-concede-2020-election-under-n1238156
What else would you advise a candidate who is running against someone who had set out in public, before the election, how he intended to claim victory before all the votes were counted ?
It was very good advice.
Though had Biden lost by five figure margins in several states, as Trump has, I seriously doubt he would have continued to drag it through the courts, beyond the point of inviting ridicule from judges of both political persuasions.1 -
Given there are now 3 successful vaccines, I wonder if they are still going to go ahead with the challenge trial as planned after Christmas?0
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There will certainly be a lot of political impetus toward that. However, I think having left, there are now larger dynamic forces at play that will pull us further apart from the continent politically and economically, regardless of what some politicians would like.gealbhan said:
So who thinks the future of this we will be build back closer? And closer, And closer.HYUFD said:
For diehard No Deal Brexiteers the only acceptable form of Brexit is one that bricks up the channel tunnel and blows up Dovergealbhan said:
“Some sort of a deal, some scrap of a deal, gives us something to build on”?CarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/status/1330988864614313993?s=20
So the only way for leavers to save brexit is the no deal brexit route. Any form of compromise, any form of deal, is just allowing remainers to build us back closer in future.
Boris and his government have made it clear, demonstrating the fact, no further national votes are required before signing deals with EU, because he’s not having one on this deal.0 -
I blame the President elect. What's he done to stop it? Damned libruls.....FrancisUrquhart said:Still winning....
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Haha "who gives a f*ck about Christmas"HYUFD said:0 -
"But I knew this lot would be bad for the country, even if I could not predict exactly how. I knew."BluestBlue said:
Knew what? That there would be a once-in-a-century pandemic the next year, that the government would have to lock down the economy to save lives, that it would have to borrow unprecedented sums - hundreds of billions in mere months - and still not be able to spend enough to make everyone happy?Roy_G_Biv said:
I apologise for not doing more to stop this lot from getting elected.Cyclefree said:Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
Thanks a fucking bunch!
I could have campaigned; I didn't. I could have donated to another party; I didn't.
I voted Lib Dem in a safe Labour seat, a decision I do not regret. But I knew this lot would be bad for the country, even if I could not predict exactly how. I knew.
And you all knew too. Deep down, you knew.
And the sodding Lib Dems would have saved us from all of that? Dream on.
You knew Boris Johnson was lazy and incompetent. We all did.1 -
Cash up front, from campaign funds, if he has any sense.Benpointer said:
He's expecting to get paid?HYUFD said:
Rudy is just doing what any sensible lawyer does, start the clock and rack up as many legal fees as possible, it does not matter whether Trump loses he still gets paidScott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
(Slight flaw in that thought.)0 -
Not sure that holds up. Costume dramas like Poldark or Downton Abbey always did well, despite very different lives.eek said:
That is a shame as it was very good but I'm really not surprised - people may not be racist but they just aren't interested in the history of others different to themselvesFrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently the first one did very poorly in the ratings, only just over 1 million tuned in for what is a prime slot.Roger said:
Me too. I liked it a lot. Brave of the BBC I thought. It was somewhere between an art installation and a film. I just hope people stay with it. Wonderfully shotFoxy said:
I liked it, having lived with a West Indian bloke in a 2 bed flat in South London in the Eighties, I got some but not all the references. Great music, and acting and good to see a Black British story told that isn't centered on the sharp end of racism.Roger said:
Foxy. What did you make of the second in the Steve McQueen 'Small Axe' series?Foxy said:
The Atlantic looks unsound on the Die Hard issue.TheScreamingEagles said:FPT
This is why the Oxford Comma, much like pineapple not belonging on pizza, and Die Hard not being a Christmas film, is a hill I am prepared to die on.Nigelb said:
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1330910999847858176?s=19
Ultimately these stories are still seen as Black stories rather than British stories.0 -
Good job most of America is locking down tightly and going nowhere in the Thanksgi....FrancisUrquhart said:Still winning....
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1331002007449112579?s=19
Damn.0 -
The account of the vaccine's effectiveness you object to originates with AZ. If they were unhappy with the version of that account being given by the press, it's not like Andrew Pollard hasn't been all over the media all day with a chance of putting them right. Is he wrong about everything too?FrancisUrquhart said:I notice from the front pages seems to have learned from their initial incorrrct reports on how effective the oxford vaccine is. Check BBC website....nope still...sniffs....fiddles with mic...WROOONGGG...
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Most sensible lawyers don’t destroy their reputations in public, though.HYUFD said:
Rudy is just doing what any sensible lawyer does, start the clock and rack up as many legal fees as possible, it does not matter whether Trump loses he still gets paidScott_xP said:
The more interesting question is whether Giuliani sues for non-payment of fees, or Trump sues for malpractice.Benpointer said:Is there a market on when Trump will sack Giuliani?
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Such as?Luckyguy1983 said:
There will certainly be a lot of political impetus toward that. However, I think having left, there are now larger dynamic forces at play that will pull us further apart from the continent politically and economically, regardless of what some politicians would like.gealbhan said:
So who thinks the future of this we will be build back closer? And closer, And closer.HYUFD said:
For diehard No Deal Brexiteers the only acceptable form of Brexit is one that bricks up the channel tunnel and blows up Dovergealbhan said:
“Some sort of a deal, some scrap of a deal, gives us something to build on”?CarlottaVance said:As was pointed out at the time......
https://twitter.com/pswidlicki/status/1330988864614313993?s=20
So the only way for leavers to save brexit is the no deal brexit route. Any form of compromise, any form of deal, is just allowing remainers to build us back closer in future.
Boris and his government have made it clear, demonstrating the fact, no further national votes are required before signing deals with EU, because he’s not having one on this deal.0 -
I know it is very grim; I really hope she can make it through to the Spring. It should be a very good spring and summer next year if she can hold on, but I know its not easy. Best of luck to her.Cyclefree said:Well, the government has just destroyed my daughter’s business.
If she ends up in Tier 2 and the rules aren’t changed or more support provides, it’s over.
If people can only come with the people they live with, there simply will not be enough business to keep her going until Easter. What’s more, the government still hasn’t said what is to happen on NY’s Eve or over Xmas. Without that trade, there is no chance.
Meanwhile people can cram into busy shops which will have none of the precautions hospitality venues have put in place and into tubes and buses. The 4 places which are riskiest for the virus are schools, universities, hospitals and shops. But guess who gets shafted?
It wouldn’t matter so much if there was proper support. But there isn’t. Such businesses have to pay rent, gas, electricity, phone, WiFi, insurance, water, NI and pension contributions etc - and the grant does not come even close to helping with that. Nor does furlough. And it’s not as if such places have earned the fat to see them through. The only period during which they have been able to trade even close to normal was between 4 July to 24 September.
If anyone thinks that just over 2 months trading out of a year is sufficient to keep a business going, I have a bridge in Nigeria to sell them.
Thanks a fucking bunch!3
