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The Pennsylvania count looks set to go onto into next week but punters are convinced Biden’s won – p

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edited November 2020 in General
imageThe Pennsylvania count looks set to go onto into next week but punters are convinced Biden’s won – politicalbetting.com

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  • eekeek Posts: 30,544
    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,142
    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,037
    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    China suspends entry to visitors from 9 nations, India, Italy, France, Russia, the UK, the Phillippines, the Ukraine, Belgium and Bangladesh after rise in imported Covid cases

    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-11-06-20-intl/h_f202d7d6853b888bf4836b4621300abb
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    edited November 2020
    So far this presidential election is now the latest to declare a winner since 2000 (which was itself the latest to declare a winner in over 100 years), that went on for 5 weeks before a winner was declared, hopefully this one will not take that long
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,873
    FPT
    @gealbhan

    Just a little joke! Senokot is a laxative - you wrote "He also said it wouldn't be as big as this morning's dump".
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,629
    xyzxyzxyz said:

    LadyG said:

    APPEAL to PBers!!!!

    I am badly missing my gym. I used to go there, do 30 minutes hard work on the crosstrainer, say hi to a few acquaintances, and walk home and shower, change, eat. Then I would get a natural high which kept me sane until bedtime.

    I need to replace it. With what? I don't like jogging at all. It's too cold to work out ,outdoors, even if it were possible.

    I need the brief sharp intensity of 30 minutes on a crosstrainer, BPM 110-120, using all those muscles.

    Is this do-able to home with juse a yoga mat and some determination?

    There is an outdoor gym within primrose hill park. Past the swings and the toilets/cafe building. Used to be unused but has been discovered.

    There's also one just outside Swiss Cottage Leisure Centre.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited November 2020
    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,406
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    Mandela effect.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,873
    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,410
    Just as a note. The USSS has already considered the possibility of having to escort Trump out of the White House door.

    The chances of it having to occur are very, very small mind.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    Someone make it end!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    Nice tactics:

    https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1324826939731988485?s=20
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Benpointer said:

    Nice tactics:

    https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1324826939731988485?s=20

    They've been doing this all election cycle.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,111
    Yokes said:

    Just as a note. The USSS has already considered the possibility of having to escort Trump out of the White House door.

    The chances of it having to occur are very, very small mind.

    Just change the locks next time he plays golf.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    Benpointer said:

    Nice tactics:

    https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1324826939731988485?s=20

    It's all crumbling around them. Too bad, so sad.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    The hare lost because he was sleepy. So much for "sleepy Joe".
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Some wanker on some news network has mentioned something about 100k provisional ballots in Penn that are trump leaning and I'm too tired to research this to see how bollocks it is so I've taken a tiny hit on my Penn profits to cash out.

    Good night.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,025
    Someone ought to put up a clock counter saying "time elapsed since last ECV called".
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,167
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1324834192216281090
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Pretty important this one. Biden likely to be slightly over 3k once remaining mail ins counted. Provisionals at around 5k (won't all be counted). Importantly the overseas will likely most be civilian. This isn't the army coming to Trump's rescue. This is expat US citizens and I can't see them favouring Trump by the amount he'd need to win.

    https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1324824164818133003
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    CNN expecting a "decent chunk of vote" from PA this hour. Could this do it?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,291
    rcs1000 said:

    xyzxyzxyz said:

    LadyG said:

    APPEAL to PBers!!!!

    I am badly missing my gym. I used to go there, do 30 minutes hard work on the crosstrainer, say hi to a few acquaintances, and walk home and shower, change, eat. Then I would get a natural high which kept me sane until bedtime.

    I need to replace it. With what? I don't like jogging at all. It's too cold to work out ,outdoors, even if it were possible.

    I need the brief sharp intensity of 30 minutes on a crosstrainer, BPM 110-120, using all those muscles.

    Is this do-able to home with juse a yoga mat and some determination?

    There is an outdoor gym within primrose hill park. Past the swings and the toilets/cafe building. Used to be unused but has been discovered.

    There's also one just outside Swiss Cottage Leisure Centre.
    That one has been very busy in the mornings when I run past it.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited November 2020
    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4,263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Philip_Thompson said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4.263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
    Oh bloody hell that was more than I expected. Where did you scoop that from?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    OnboardG1 said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4.263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
    Oh bloody hell that was more than I expected. Where did you scoop that from?
    CNN.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,037
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    My childhood may be a lie, but wikipedia backs me up on this being a variant!
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    My childhood may be a lie, but wikipedia backs me up on this being a variant!
    Tell the truth: Did you just edit that into Wikipedia? 😜
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    OnboardG1 said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4.263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
    Oh bloody hell that was more than I expected. Where did you scoop that from?
    Biden's GA lead is currently 4,241 according to DecisionDesk

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/2020/general/georgia
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    edited November 2020
    Why the bloody hell are Denmark allowing flights in and out....when they have this new mutation. We aren't learning are we.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,535
    Alistair said:

    Some wanker on some news network has mentioned something about 100k provisional ballots in Penn that are trump leaning and I'm too tired to research this to see how bollocks it is so I've taken a tiny hit on my Penn profits to cash out.

    Good night.

    LOL. I was just about to post on this. There might be flickers of value across Betfair as backers and layers cash out in order to free up funds for other bets over the weekend.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,037
    Philip_Thompson said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    My childhood may be a lie, but wikipedia backs me up on this being a variant!
    Tell the truth: Did you just edit that into Wikipedia? 😜
    This must be some of that famous PB bullying I've heard so much about :)
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Philip_Thompson said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4.263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
    Oh bloody hell that was more than I expected. Where did you scoop that from?
    CNN.
    Ah checked in with DD and they have the numbers. Sounds like Gwinnet says hi. Not sure if that's just absentee or if it's provisionals too. Could be a few more absentee out there but not much. We'll know remaining overseas shortly. This doesn't look good for Trump.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    So the major networks are not wanting to call this too early for fear of getting embroiled in any controversy... but the longer they delay the more they allow controversy and disinformation to grow.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,088
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    There are two versions of the hare and tortoise. I only found this out about two months ago!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,220
    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    This variant is the little told fable of the tortoise and the obese turtle.

    Clash of the testudines.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,291
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Why the bloody hell are Denmark allowing flights in and out....when they have this new mutation. We aren't learning are we.

    No, there should be mandated national quarantine of Denmark for at least 4 weeks. No one in and out of the country.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    OnboardG1 said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    I believe they called PA the moment Biden took a lead. Which was realistic.

    GA lead increased to 4.263 - good luck with that recount 🤣
    Oh bloody hell that was more than I expected. Where did you scoop that from?
    CNN.
    Ah checked in with DD and they have the numbers. Sounds like Gwinnet says hi. Not sure if that's just absentee or if it's provisionals too. Could be a few more absentee out there but not much. We'll know remaining overseas shortly. This doesn't look good for Trump.
    Yes that's where they said it was from but I wasn't sure how to spell that (sounded like they said Wynette to me). The votes came from there.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    edited November 2020
    MaxPB said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Why the bloody hell are Denmark allowing flights in and out....when they have this new mutation. We aren't learning are we.

    No, there should be mandated national quarantine of Denmark for at least 4 weeks. No one in and out of the country.
    It is literally carbon copy of Wuhan... oh shit we have this thing in animals, cull the animals, what humans have it, ohhh....wait wait wait....spread...oh shit.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,637
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,544
    I will leave this here as I head to bed

    https://twitter.com/swiftycook/status/1324836972054065153
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    numbertwelve said:

    Benpointer said:

    Nice tactics:

    https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1324826939731988485?s=20

    It's all crumbling around them. Too bad, so sad.
    Is this real?
  • eekeek Posts: 30,544
    eristdoof said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    You have entirely made this up - your childhood is a lie
    There are two versions of the hare and tortoise. I only found this out about two months ago!
    There are thousands of variations of the story - including one from native America
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,873
    rottenborough said:

    numbertwelve said:

    Benpointer said:

    Nice tactics:

    https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1324826939731988485?s=20

    It's all crumbling around them. Too bad, so sad.
    Is this real?
    Shit just got real!
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,015
    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    Fox says RNC still hopes for NC and AZ but has given up on NV and PA, in terms of the count. Hoping for the recount in GA to deliver. After that it’s in the courts.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    FPT
    @gealbhan

    Just a little joke! Senokot is a laxative - you wrote "He also said it wouldn't be as big as this morning's dump".

    Thank you. I wasn’t’ trying to sit that one out.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    edited November 2020
    Am I right in thinking that AP and Fox have called Arizona for Biden but none of the other news outlets?

    Confusingly, DecisionDesk have not called AZ but have called PA (which takes Biden over the line).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Interestingly according to today's Yougov Scottish subsample the Brexit Party are now on 8% in Scotland which would actually be higher than the 6% they are on across the UK

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/w35fkmlez4/TheTimes_VI_Tracker_201105_W1.pdf
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,626
    edited November 2020
    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Bless, look at Sturgeon when Scotland's cases/R rate went down it was down to Scotland, when the R went back up it was the UK's cases/R rate that was going up.

    She's an angry nativist.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Bless, look at Sturgeon when Scotland's R rate went down it was down to Scotland, when the R went back up it was the UK's R rate that was going up.

    She's an angry nativist.
    I think this is called the Andrew Murray effect.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    Pittsburgh any minute say CNN.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,622
    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    What kind of madness is this? That would entirely change the moral of the story!
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,180
    edited November 2020
    ...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    edited November 2020
    IanB2 said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    Fox says RNC still hopes for NC and AZ but has given up on NV and PA, in terms of the count. Hoping for the recount in GA to deliver. After that it’s in the courts.
    That makes no sense. NV and PA would be enough for Biden even if GOP took NC, AZ and GA.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,873
    edited November 2020
    rottenborough said:

    Pittsburgh any minute say CNN.

    Bring it! :)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    Is that paint dry yet?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,626
    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    I condemn all form of nativism, which is one of the reasons why I quit the Tory party.

    The Gauleiters in the SNP need to be called out.
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    What kind of madness is this? That would entirely change the moral of the story!
    The over confident hare thought he had time to take a nap. Sounds Aesop.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    IanB2 said:

    Benpointer said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest popular votes:

    Biden 73,877,903
    Trump 70,005,972

    https://results.decisiondeskhq.com

    So DD have called the whole election for Biden?
    They have
    Fox says RNC still hopes for NC and AZ but has given up on NV and PA, in terms of the count. Hoping for the recount in GA to deliver. After that it’s in the courts.
    NC I think they'll take. AZ... well I think that's a stretch and more hope than expectation. I don't think Biden is going to lose the next bunch of Maricopa updates by enough to lose the state. The recount in GA is unlikely in the extreme to overturn a 4400 vote margin (assuming it stays that way, I'd not expect much change from here on out). I think we're looking at 290+ for Biden.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,167
    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    The descent of Giuliani is Shakespearian.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    Has there ever been so dramatic a fall from grace as that of Giuliani?
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,410
    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    As much as Jim gets stick by some for being a Democrat shill, I suspect his sources are good.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    BBC News - UK energy plant to use liquid air
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54841528
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    rottenborough said:

    Pittsburgh any minute say CNN.

    Bring it! :)
    delay for an hour. rats
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    rottenborough said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    The descent of Giuliani is Shakespearian.
    He still was one of New York's greatest Mayors though, slashed crime in the city and restored order and civility to its streets and helped rally the City on 9/11
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    numbertwelve said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    Has there ever been so dramatic a fall from grace as that of Giuliani?
    Baby yoda....now revealed to be a baby snatcher and eater...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,279
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    I condemn all form of nativism, which is one of the reasons why I quit the Tory party.

    The Gauleiters in the SNP need to be called out.
    Spoken like a true Yorkshireman.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,220
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Bless, look at Sturgeon when Scotland's cases/R rate went down it was down to Scotland, when the R went back up it was the UK's cases/R rate that was going up.

    She's an angry nativist.
    You've never got over being on the same side as Farage in the indy ref have you?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    You obviously have not encountered the cybernats
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    More delays in PA. FFS
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,037
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    kle4 said:

    eek said:

    First as the tortoise Biden will eventually be

    From the discuss with philipthompson yesterday and now this, I feel like I'm the only person who was taught the variant of that story where the tortoise only wins because he cheated?
    What kind of madness is this? That would entirely change the moral of the story!
    Yes, it's about cleverness (eg stationing duplicates around the course to run it for him).
  • gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    I condemn all form of nativism, which is one of the reasons why I quit the Tory party.

    The Gauleiters in the SNP need to be called out.
    You are saying they”take back control” of Scottish Independence and Brexit is the same thing, Brexit is actually fostering and enabling break up of U.K.? 😕
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 30,567
    Will there be enough PA votes unveiled at 11:30 to be worth waiting up for? Or will I be waking up tomorrow for yet another day of this shit?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,118
    numbertwelve said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    Has there ever been so dramatic a fall from grace as that of Giuliani?
    Rudy
    A message to you, Rudy
    A message to you
    Stop your fooling around
    Time you straighten right out
    Better think of your future
    Else you'll wind up in jail

    Prophetic!
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Will there be enough PA votes unveiled at 11:30 to be worth waiting up for? Or will I be waking up tomorrow for yet another day of this shit?

    I don't want you cause you to miss anything but....
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,613
    CNN reporter in Pittsburgh reporting another delay before the next 7k votes are announced. Stood in front of a virtually empty warehouse, a few blokes standing around with their hands in their pockets...

    Why is the US so terrible at vote counting?
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    HYUFD said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    You obviously have not encountered the cybernats
    I have, they are dreadful. I have also encountered the union trolls. I get an earful from my mother-in-sin every time I go for dinner about how Sturgeon is a terrible hussie who is a traitor and wants to blow the UK up and put us all on the groat and...

    I generally dislike the extreme elements of both the SNP and continuity BT or whatever they're called, but nativism is baked into the DNA of a lot of the English Right in a way it isn't in the mainline SNP.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,626
    Theuniondivvie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Bless, look at Sturgeon when Scotland's cases/R rate went down it was down to Scotland, when the R went back up it was the UK's cases/R rate that was going up.

    She's an angry nativist.
    You've never got over being on the same side as Farage in the indy ref have you?
    TBH it was being on the same side as the Orange Order that kept me up at night and doubt my Unionism.

    Farage was irrelevant in the Indyref.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    Benpointer said:

    CNN reporter in Pittsburgh reporting another delay before the next 7k votes are announced. Stood in front of a virtually empty warehouse, a few blokes standing around with their hands in their pockets...

    Why is the US so terrible at vote counting?

    It takes time to print off 1000s of new fake ballots ;-)
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,676
    Person on CNN (paraphrasing): "If we don't know today, we will know eventually". Well that's reassuring.
  • DAlexanderDAlexander Posts: 815
    I think we can all put the idea of vote rigging to bed. The BBC did an article on it and none of the signs of vote rigging happened in this election:

    Delay in announcing results
    Too many voters
    A high turnout in specific areas
    Large numbers of invalid votes
    More votes than ballot papers issued
    Results that don't match

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    edited November 2020
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Will there be enough PA votes unveiled at 11:30 to be worth waiting up for? Or will I be waking up tomorrow for yet another day of this shit?

    I suspect not. But what do any of us know? Meanwhile the world's stupidest court case is being live tweeted and I just don't know why I'm bloody watching it.

    https://twitter.com/RileySnyder/status/1324833351996383233

    Seems like the lawyer in question literally doesn't know Nevadan law.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,626
    edited November 2020
    LOL.

    Trump will no longer receive special Twitter treatment if he loses election.

    Policy that protects ‘newsworthy individuals’ from having accounts banned for breaking rules wouldn’t apply to Trump.

    Donald Trump could lose more than just the presidency this January. Twitter has confirmed that, if Trump leaves office, he will no longer receive special treatment as a “newsworthy individual”.

    Twitter’s policy around newsworthiness protects certain people – such as elected officials with more than 250,000 followers – from having their accounts suspended or banned for rule infractions that would otherwise lead to severe penalties.

    That policy is what has led to the company muting, but not removing, at least 12 tweets from the US president over the past week that cast doubt on the democratic process.

    But, Twitter has confirmed, the policy does not apply to former elected officials. They have to follow the same rules as everyone else, and if a tweet breaks those rules, it gets removed. Were Trump to continue breaking Twitter’s rules regularly post-presidency, his account could be suspended.

    “Twitter’s approach to world leaders, candidates and public officials is based on the principle that people should be able to choose to see what their leaders are saying with clear context,” a spokesman told the Guardian. “This means that we may apply warnings and labels, and limit engagement to certain Tweets. This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions.”

    That will present Trump with a choice once he leaves office: either tone down the rhetoric or face the prospect of his hugely influential following being taken away from him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/06/donald-trump-twitter-rules-newsworthy-election
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    HYUFD said:

    rottenborough said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    The descent of Giuliani is Shakespearian.
    He still was one of New York's greatest Mayors though, slashed crime in the city and restored order and civility to its streets and helped rally the City on 9/11
    Well there you go then. From those days to today's act as a dodgy backstreet lawyer who would make Saul Goodman blush.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 12,040
    edited November 2020
    rottenborough said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    The descent of Giuliani is Shakespearian.
    He really should stop his messing around. Better think of his future. Else he'll wind up in jail.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,629
    DAlexander said:

    I think we can all put the idea of vote rigging to bed. The BBC did an article on it and none of the signs of vote rigging happened in this election:

    Delay in announcing results
    Too many voters
    A high turnout in specific areas
    Large numbers of invalid votes
    More votes than ballot papers issued
    Results that don't match

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190

    The curious bit, though, is the way there's actually more vote rigging (i.e. bigger swings towards the Democrats) in Republican states such as Georgia and North Carolina.

    The only explanation I can think of is that the Republicans are trying to overthrow Trump.

    Do you have any other explanation for why the swings are larger to the Democrats in Republican run states?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,300
    edited November 2020
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    LOL.

    Trump will no longer receive special Twitter treatment if he loses election.

    Policy that protects ‘newsworthy individuals’ from having accounts banned for breaking rules wouldn’t apply to Trump.

    Donald Trump could lose more than just the presidency this January. Twitter has confirmed that, if Trump leaves office, he will no longer receive special treatment as a “newsworthy individual”.

    Twitter’s policy around newsworthiness protects certain people – such as elected officials with more than 250,000 followers – from having their accounts suspended or banned for rule infractions that would otherwise lead to severe penalties.

    That policy is what has led to the company muting, but not removing, at least 12 tweets from the US president over the past week that cast doubt on the democratic process.

    But, Twitter has confirmed, the policy does not apply to former elected officials. They have to follow the same rules as everyone else, and if a tweet breaks those rules, it gets removed. Were Trump to continue breaking Twitter’s rules regularly post-presidency, his account could be suspended.

    “Twitter’s approach to world leaders, candidates and public officials is based on the principle that people should be able to choose to see what their leaders are saying with clear context,” a spokesman told the Guardian. “This means that we may apply warnings and labels, and limit engagement to certain Tweets. This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions.”

    That will present Trump with a choice once he leaves office: either tone down the rhetoric or face the prospect of his hugely influential following being taken away from him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/06/donald-trump-twitter-rules-newsworthy-election

    I think it would be very unwise to un-person trump. Just let him scream like a child and do the moderate thing on anything really crazy. Unpersoning him just makes him a martyr and feds into thr narrative twitter are bias / happy to censor certain people and not others.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,602
    OnboardG1 said:

    HYUFD said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    You obviously have not encountered the cybernats
    I have, they are dreadful. I have also encountered the union trolls. I get an earful from my mother-in-sin every time I go for dinner about how Sturgeon is a terrible hussie who is a traitor and wants to blow the UK up and put us all on the groat and...

    I generally dislike the extreme elements of both the SNP and continuity BT or whatever they're called, but nativism is baked into the DNA of a lot of the English Right in a way it isn't in the mainline SNP.
    Oh it is baked into the SNP to its very core, the SNP are nationalists to their core in the way the Tories are not, Farage's followers maybe but really the most aggressive on Twitter are the cybernats from the SNP side in Scotland and YesCymru in Wales, the remaining Corbyn faithful and the No Deal ultra hard Brexiteers
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    DAlexander said:

    I think we can all put the idea of vote rigging to bed. The BBC did an article on it and none of the signs of vote rigging happened in this election:

    Delay in announcing results
    Too many voters
    A high turnout in specific areas
    Large numbers of invalid votes
    More votes than ballot papers issued
    Results that don't match

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190

    Oh god I thought you'd finally buggered off. Please stop. It's embarassing for everyone.
  • Mal557Mal557 Posts: 662
    I hope Bidens speech is long enough to last two days, if it is he will finish about the same time PA will be called and he can end his speech 'oh and by the way I accept the Presidency'
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,657
    I'm done. Off to bed.

    Got a full day of groundhogging tomorrow by sound of CNN.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,626
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    LOL.

    Trump will no longer receive special Twitter treatment if he loses election.

    Policy that protects ‘newsworthy individuals’ from having accounts banned for breaking rules wouldn’t apply to Trump.

    Donald Trump could lose more than just the presidency this January. Twitter has confirmed that, if Trump leaves office, he will no longer receive special treatment as a “newsworthy individual”.

    Twitter’s policy around newsworthiness protects certain people – such as elected officials with more than 250,000 followers – from having their accounts suspended or banned for rule infractions that would otherwise lead to severe penalties.

    That policy is what has led to the company muting, but not removing, at least 12 tweets from the US president over the past week that cast doubt on the democratic process.

    But, Twitter has confirmed, the policy does not apply to former elected officials. They have to follow the same rules as everyone else, and if a tweet breaks those rules, it gets removed. Were Trump to continue breaking Twitter’s rules regularly post-presidency, his account could be suspended.

    “Twitter’s approach to world leaders, candidates and public officials is based on the principle that people should be able to choose to see what their leaders are saying with clear context,” a spokesman told the Guardian. “This means that we may apply warnings and labels, and limit engagement to certain Tweets. This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions.”

    That will present Trump with a choice once he leaves office: either tone down the rhetoric or face the prospect of his hugely influential following being taken away from him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/06/donald-trump-twitter-rules-newsworthy-election

    I think it would be very unwise to un-person trump. Just let him scream like a child and do the moderate thing on anything really crazy.
    There's a real danger his tweets lead to actual violence.
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,901
    rottenborough said:

    HYUFD said:

    rottenborough said:

    Scott_xP said:

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324840775990026240

    The descent of Giuliani is Shakespearian.
    He still was one of New York's greatest Mayors though, slashed crime in the city and restored order and civility to its streets and helped rally the City on 9/11
    Well there you go then. From those days to today's act as a dodgy backstreet lawyer who would make Saul Goodman blush.
    It is shocking to consider that he is the same man, he was so well respected back then.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,220
    HYUFD said:

    OnboardG1 said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Carnyx said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1324765590863699973

    The one thing the SNP aren't is nativists.
    You Kippers in kilts are in denial about that.
    FPT

    Have a look at the UKIP stats in Scotland and at SNP policy on who gets Scottish passports - not to mention who gets to live in Sciotland at all.

    The SNP{ aren't the ones who scream and shout at other Europeans sitting in Holyrood. Or in Westminster. Hell, the Tories scream and shout at Scots sitting in Westminster.
    Gotta say TSE, with the exception of some of the older school nutters, the SNP are much much less nativist than the Tory part.
    You obviously have not encountered the cybernats
    Now Trump's toast, who's going to be your populist nationalist poster boy?
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