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I've been to Frankfurt more than any other German city. I've also been to Stuttgart, Mainz, Munich and Würzburg.another_richard said:I've never been there but the hatred for Frankfurt baffles me.
Does it not have pubs to drink in, restaurants to eat in, parks to sit in, countryside to walk in ?
Just as every city does ?
Very compact city with pretty good transportation with the airport being less than a 15 minute train ride away.
Well connected to Mainz, Cologne, Stuttgart and so on.
Nice enough Altstadt and the Museums on the south bank of the river are pretty good.
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Any that makes the UK look bad, will be excluded by the Tories. Recall that we can only do international comparisons when it's good for the ToriesRoy_G_Biv said:
Every country has arrays of different factors. Can you justify which factors you think should lead to a country being excluded from an analysis?IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:0 -
I don't think there are poppy sellers on the streets this year, though some fixed sites such as shops wialex_ said:
Wonder if he paid for it, or just took out last year's? Amazing how many people don't realise the primary purpose is to raise money not to visibly demonstrate support.dixiedean said:
If it's never too early what was wrong with January?Theuniondivvie said:Only 24 days till Poppymas.
https://twitter.com/AndrewRosindell/status/1317402276085071872?s=20
Treacherous snowflake Lefty.
Green wing is the most accurate.Nigelb said:
Not even Bodies ?Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
One of Mercurio’s most entertaining.1 -
TBF, Kennedy has been dead for a few years.CorrectHorseBattery said:
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For each of the days one of those 20 infected people gets a test.Roy_G_Biv said:
Thanks, but this answered a slightly different question to the one I asked. I think I understand what R means, and the ways in which is can be affected. My question was what does the graph mean. If, say, a random person in an urban area, let's say Epping Forest, becomes infectious on 9th October, ceases to be infectious on 20th October, and during that time infects twenty people. Have they brought up the R number for the 9th October, the 18th October, for each of the days they infected someone, or what? Do they bring the 14th October R number up?MaxPB said:
It's easier to work in tens, but basically at R=1 if 10 people get the virus they will collectively pass it on to 10 other people.Roy_G_Biv said:
What's does this graph mean? For example, the figures for the 14th October, let's say one region has an R of exactly 1.00.Malmesbury said:
R is quite clearly falling - up til 4 days ago, it was on a steady downward trajectory -MaxPB said:
In a few days, I think by Wednesday we'll have a pretty clear picture of whether the R is falling. I also hope I'm right.CorrectHorseBattery said:So when will we know whether @MaxPB's hypothesis is correct? I hope he is
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As I understand it, R is the number of people infected by each infected person across the course of their illness. So does R=1.00 for the 14th October mean
1. The average person who was INFECTIOUS on 14/10 could be expected to transmit it to one other?
2. The average person who BECAME INFECTED on 14/10 will be expected to transmit it to one other?
3. The average person who CEASED BEING INFECTIOUS on 14/10 has transmitted it to one other?
4. Something else?
The R is calculated as a function of the viral growth rate, incubation period and infectiousness during the incubation period. With no non-pharmaceutical interventions the R of COVID is around 4.5 for symptomatic people and around 1.5 for asymptomatic people.
The way nations have sought to reduce the R is by introducing NPIs like mask wearing and social distancing. This brings the R of asymptomatic people to well below 1 and reduces the likelihood of susperspreader events occurring.0 -
Average 5 days from infection to symptoms.Foxy said:
I think it is the difference between reporting date and testing date that makes for the discrepancy. The Actuaries group reckons 1.3. Locally to me, it seems pretty flat.Roy_G_Biv said:
New infections published today up 31% on a week ago.MaxPB said:The national R is still going down ever so slightly which is good news. I think the R in England is actually below 1 now which is a positive development and this is with just the local lockdown measures rather than the tier system which introduced more restrictions to more parts of England.
I'm unclear why you think that's compatible with R being below 1. To me it seems to contradict your assertion.
https://twitter.com/COVID19actuary/status/1317488856044797960?s=19
Average 7 days from symptoms to hospitalisation.
Then 2 days reporting lag.
Ergo they are estimating an R of 1.3 as of a fortnight earlier.
Which might be accurate, but of limited utility for understanding how things have gone recently.0 -
HST's review of my favoured bike (a relatively slow one even then).SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Re: last nights sidebar re: Hunter S. Thompson, note that HST's first book, which justly earned him fame if not fortune, was "Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga".Alistair said:
https://twitter.com/agearan/status/1317662436489560066alex_ said:
Trump had any rallies there?Nigelb said:
Along with North and South Dakota...Benpointer said:
Czech Republic is giving Belgium a run for their money over the last few days :-(alex_ said:
Not quite. Even they are getting on for 1.7 times the size of Belgium with fewer cases.another_richard said:
The Netherlands are almost as bad.alex_ said:another_richard said:If we're comparing new cases Sunday by Sunday then:
France
11/10/20 16,101
18/10 20 29,837
Italy
11/10/20 5,456
18/10/20 11,705
Poland
11/10/20 4,178
18/10/20 8,536
are all looking worrying.
All three doing significantly less testing than the UK.
Honourable mention to Belgium pretending to be a country of five times its actual size.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1317906618944614400
'Song of the Sausage Creature'
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https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1317933670460739587
Levelling down the North, these people I hope will never vote Tory again0 -
If the data doesn't have error bars, it shows that the person who constructed the graph is not really interested in letting the data speak for itself.Roy_G_Biv said:
Every country has arrays of different factors. Can you justify which factors you think should lead to a country being excluded from an analysis?IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:
The graph can be safely binned.0 -
Betting post:
Trump is currently 2.6 on betfair and Biden 8 to get 46% - 49%.
Surely virtually all of Trump's wins would leave Biden between those percentages.
Obviously its just about possible that Biden could lose with over 49% of the vote but unlikely (only Nixon has lost with 49+ since the war).
Also v unlikely that Biden will end up below 46% and the odds are over 3x higher.
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I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.1 -
The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.3 -
JFK haunts the White House?Nigelb said:
TBF, Kennedy has been dead for a few years.CorrectHorseBattery said:
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Burnham is absolutely right1
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Re: Shy Trumpsky vote, in addition to discounting the Shy Biden vote, are not many PBers totally ignoring yet another critical voting bloc?
Namely the Shy Kanye West vote.
Of course impact is limited by fact KW only qualified for the ballot in three potential swing states: Colorado, Iowa & Minnesota.
FYI the US has rich history of joke - satirical - novelty "candidates" for President. Perhaps most notably Pat Paulsen who "ran" in several elections starting in 1968 when his "candidacy" was launched on the "Smothers Brothers" TV show. In 1992 he received over 10k votes running against George Bush the Elder in Republican primaries, and in 1996 came in 2nd to Bill Clinton in the New Hampshire Democratic presidential primary.
Another funny guy who garnered some support AND a lot of laughs, was Will Rogers, an Oklahoma Democrat transferred to Hollywood who went from cowboy rodeo rope-trick artist to national sage; one of his most famous lines was, "I belong to no organized political party - I'm a Democrat".
Got to hand it to the Trumpskys - esp. Jared - for taking a fun national pastime and turning it into an actual political stratagem.1 -
Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging0
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He surely does metaphorically.Foxy said:
JFK haunts the White House?Nigelb said:
TBF, Kennedy has been dead for a few years.CorrectHorseBattery said:
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I think that a good band. It covers Trump wins but also narrow Biden wins.lockhimup said:Betting post:
Trump is currently 2.6 on betfair and Biden 8 to get 46% - 49%.
Surely virtually all of Trump's wins would leave Biden between those percentages.
Obviously its just about possible that Biden could lose with over 49% of the vote but unlikely (only Nixon has lost with 49+ since the war).
Also v unlikely that Biden will end up below 46% and the odds are over 3x higher.
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You should write a script or novel @Cyclefree. I for one would watch / read it.Cyclefree said:
I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.3 -
Hear hearBenpointer said:
You should write a script or novel @Cyclefree. I for one would watch / read it.Cyclefree said:
I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.0 -
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What's the bloody point of a classification system with 4 alpha classifications? What's wrong with using more than the first three letters of the Greek alphabet if they don't wish to generalise to broad categories only?ManchesterKurt said:
If you want to compare the division in the UK with a country of high devolution and cooperative government compare this.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network#:~:text= v t e Loughborough,Field ... 1 more rows
Alpha ++ London
Alpha +
Alpha Frankfurt
Alpha - Munich
Beta + Berlin, Dusseldorf, Hamburg
Beta
Beta - Stuttgart, Manchester
Gamma + Belfast, Glasgow
Gamma Bristol
High Sufficiency Birmingham, Leeds
Sufficiency Aberdeen, Cardiff, Dortmund, Dresden, Essen, Hanover, Leipzig, Liverpool, Mannheim, Newcastle, Nottingham, Sheffield, Southampton,
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It's a variant of Gell-Mann Amnesia effect.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
Anyone with knowledge of a field finds that field to be portrayed inaccurately on TV and in film.
But they still consider believing other things - in the same piece of work!0 -
It’s an interesting alternative hedge to the number of electoral college votes market. Might take a look.Foxy said:
I think that a good band. It covers Trump wins but also narrow Biden wins.lockhimup said:Betting post:
Trump is currently 2.6 on betfair and Biden 8 to get 46% - 49%.
Surely virtually all of Trump's wins would leave Biden between those percentages.
Obviously its just about possible that Biden could lose with over 49% of the vote but unlikely (only Nixon has lost with 49+ since the war).
Also v unlikely that Biden will end up below 46% and the odds are over 3x higher.
Value?
(btw, I bet Goldwater would barely have been longer than 3 against LBJ on Betfair Exchange, had it then existed.)0 -
"Zoom and enhance", my favourite movie cliche1
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It's a bit disappointing that such an intelligent and learned man can use such lazy techniques to dismiss opponents like anyone else. It does not bode well for his upcoming book.eristdoof said:
"the only response" he missed out the words 'that he has seen', and he has not been looking very hard. There has been plenty rebuttal to the Great Barrington report based analysis of the last 9 months.rottenborough said:"So far, the only response of the lockdown enthusiasts has been an attempt to smear the Great Barrington authors with allegations they are the tools of Right-wing doctrinaires or antisemites. If there was a better answer than abuse, we would no doubt have heard it."
Lord Sumption (Mail)0 -
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317936447802978307
Will the Sun be looking to see how much Keir bows this year and the coat he wears?0 -
And the mullet is back in fashion...dixiedean said:The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.
https://haircutinspiration.com/the-modern-mullet-for-men/0 -
In fairness JFK is probably looking a bit rough right now, as NigelB notes.CorrectHorseBattery said:0 -
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?2 -
Sign of the endtimes - as a child of the late 90s and adult of the 00s. one of the few things I could hold onto was that my generation's hair and clothing styles was not as ridiculous as the 70s, 80s and early 90s.Foxy said:
And the mullet is back in fashion...dixiedean said:The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.
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Disestablishment of the church can't be far away.Roy_G_Biv said:
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?1 -
Thanks! Muchly!Theuniondivvie said:
HST's review of my favoured bike (a relatively slow one even then).SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Re: last nights sidebar re: Hunter S. Thompson, note that HST's first book, which justly earned him fame if not fortune, was "Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga".Alistair said:
https://twitter.com/agearan/status/1317662436489560066alex_ said:
Trump had any rallies there?Nigelb said:
Along with North and South Dakota...Benpointer said:
Czech Republic is giving Belgium a run for their money over the last few days :-(alex_ said:
Not quite. Even they are getting on for 1.7 times the size of Belgium with fewer cases.another_richard said:
The Netherlands are almost as bad.alex_ said:another_richard said:If we're comparing new cases Sunday by Sunday then:
France
11/10/20 16,101
18/10 20 29,837
Italy
11/10/20 5,456
18/10/20 11,705
Poland
11/10/20 4,178
18/10/20 8,536
are all looking worrying.
All three doing significantly less testing than the UK.
Honourable mention to Belgium pretending to be a country of five times its actual size.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1317906618944614400
'Song of the Sausage Creature'
https://tinyurl.com/y743kph3
". . . . I never got to sixth gear, and I didn't get deep into fifth. This is a shameful admission for a full-bore Cafe Racer, but let me tell you something, old sport: This motorcycle is simply too goddamn fast to ride at speed in any kind of normal road traffic unless you're ready to go straight down the centerline with your nuts on fire and a silent scream in your throat.
. . . . But somehow the brute straightened out. I passed a schoolbus on the right and got the bike under control long enough to gear down and pull off into an abandoned gravel driveway where I stopped and turned off the engine. My hands had seized up like claws and the rest of my body was numb. I felt nauseous and I cried for my mama, but nobody heard, then I went into a trance for 30 or 40 seconds until I was finally able to light a cigarette and calm down enough to ride home. I was too hysterical to shift gears, so I went the whole way in first at 40 miles an hour."0 -
People really get into the competitive spirit I see.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of violating a humanitarian ceasefire in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh...
But an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said Azerbaijan broke the ceasefire after just four minutes by firing artillery shells and rockets.
Azerbaijan later said Armenia had broken the truce after two minutes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54586437
By this time tomorrow they'll be arguing who broke it down to the tenth of a second.0 -
Not under this monarch surely, however No 10 might resent power bases that are higher than them.williamglenn said:
Disestablishment of the church can't be far away.Roy_G_Biv said:
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?0 -
That's a terrible chart.CorrectHorseBattery said:
The Y axis is economic growth H1 2020
The X axis is deaths until mid October 2020
Those aren't the same data sets.
As a result because the deaths hit America later they're showing as comparable deaths to the UK but much less economic damage. Whereas the better comparison for that death period would be Q1-Q3 2020 which I expect will bring the two more in line with each other.0 -
Why do ill people in the north have to go to hospital in the north? Its supposed to be a national health service.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1317933670460739587
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Indeed, so far out I'd assumed he was being ironic ...SeaShantyIrish2 said:0 -
A good tip is to start with the dots that are drawn in a different colour.Roy_G_Biv said:
Every country has arrays of different factors. Can you justify which factors you think should lead to a country being excluded from an analysis?IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:0 -
Re: potential Welsh “circuit breaker”. I wonder if the Welsh executive has jumped the gun a bit, assuming that England and Scotland would follow imminently and they would stand out as being leaders rather than followers? And are now getting a bit twitchy that they won’t and they are going to look a bit isolated, and with no money to pay for it. Especially as a single circuit breaker, as opposed to a series, wasn’t actually what SAGE wanted, and Labour’s England policy now seems to be for a much longer lockdown.0
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Thats a great bike review. I didn't realise Hunter S Thompson was still alive.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Thanks! Muchly!Theuniondivvie said:
HST's review of my favoured bike (a relatively slow one even then).SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Re: last nights sidebar re: Hunter S. Thompson, note that HST's first book, which justly earned him fame if not fortune, was "Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga".Alistair said:
https://twitter.com/agearan/status/1317662436489560066alex_ said:
Trump had any rallies there?Nigelb said:
Along with North and South Dakota...Benpointer said:
Czech Republic is giving Belgium a run for their money over the last few days :-(alex_ said:
Not quite. Even they are getting on for 1.7 times the size of Belgium with fewer cases.another_richard said:
The Netherlands are almost as bad.alex_ said:another_richard said:If we're comparing new cases Sunday by Sunday then:
France
11/10/20 16,101
18/10 20 29,837
Italy
11/10/20 5,456
18/10/20 11,705
Poland
11/10/20 4,178
18/10/20 8,536
are all looking worrying.
All three doing significantly less testing than the UK.
Honourable mention to Belgium pretending to be a country of five times its actual size.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1317906618944614400
'Song of the Sausage Creature'
https://tinyurl.com/y743kph3
". . . . I never got to sixth gear, and I didn't get deep into fifth. This is a shameful admission for a full-bore Cafe Racer, but let me tell you something, old sport: This motorcycle is simply too goddamn fast to ride at speed in any kind of normal road traffic unless you're ready to go straight down the centerline with your nuts on fire and a silent scream in your throat.
. . . . But somehow the brute straightened out. I passed a schoolbus on the right and got the bike under control long enough to gear down and pull off into an abandoned gravel driveway where I stopped and turned off the engine. My hands had seized up like claws and the rest of my body was numb. I felt nauseous and I cried for my mama, but nobody heard, then I went into a trance for 30 or 40 seconds until I was finally able to light a cigarette and calm down enough to ride home. I was too hysterical to shift gears, so I went the whole way in first at 40 miles an hour."
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It is centuries overdue.williamglenn said:
Disestablishment of the church can't be far away.Roy_G_Biv said:
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?0 -
Does that mean we can get some decent music soon?dixiedean said:The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.0 -
So it will be the next Tory pitch, you're basically their PR at this pointPhilip_Thompson said:
It is centuries overdue.williamglenn said:
Disestablishment of the church can't be far away.Roy_G_Biv said:
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?0 -
It's just as bad as I thought it would be.CorrectHorseBattery said:Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging
Laurie's villainous character is far too obvious. They got the Tories 'destroying our future', privatising/selling off the NHS, gross indifference to justice, and a bit of wink-wink racist insinuation all in the first episode. Plus the sex was just gratitutous - absolutely no story at all: people just walk into a flat, shut the door and start shagging.
I mean, really?
And like @Cyclefree says the legal stuff was just poor - my wife is a solicitor and was shaking her head throughout.
If I continue watching it will be because of Hugh Laurie and Hugh Laurie alone.0 -
As someone with a lifetime of Maths and Physics... can you imagine what I think of most SciFi / Space fiction?No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
And do NOT get me started on computers & Hollywood, especially CSI "We found a saliva sample and sequenced DNA. Our computer says he is 6ft 2 with blond hair and is wearing a red T-shirt and is having breakfast at O'Leary's Cafe ..... OK we'll pick him up"3 -
Green wing is the most accurate.Nigelb said:
Not even Bodies ?Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
One of Mercurio’s most entertaining.
And one of the funniest.
** Taps nose significantly **Benpointer said:
You should write a script or novel @Cyclefree. I for one would watch / read it.Cyclefree said:
I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.
Characters identified and named and plot outline. But script-writing - eesh! Looked at a professional script the other day. So much is in the acting and visual.1 -
Live queen concert up on five in half an hourPhilip_Thompson said:
Does that mean we can get some decent music soon?dixiedean said:The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.2 -
I'm an atheist republican. I have believed in disestablishmentarianism all my life but I don't think we will get the secular Republic I think we should be any time soon.CorrectHorseBattery said:
So it will be the next Tory pitch, you're basically their PR at this pointPhilip_Thompson said:
It is centuries overdue.williamglenn said:
Disestablishment of the church can't be far away.Roy_G_Biv said:
Earlier, I was mapping Brexit onto the timeline of the French Revolution. It was meant mainly as a joke, but I note that the parallel timeline has us pretty much exactly at the point where refactory bishops were deemed outlaws who could be killed on sight. Maybe there's more to this toy theory than even I suspected.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1317935671101825025
The next culture war is on the Church?0 -
And one of the funniest.Cyclefree said:
Green wing is the most accurate.Nigelb said:
Not even Bodies ?Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
One of Mercurio’s most entertaining.
** Taps nose significantly **Benpointer said:
You should write a script or novel @Cyclefree. I for one would watch / read it.Cyclefree said:
I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.
Characters identified and named and plot outline. But script-writing - eesh! Looked at a professional script the other day. So much is in the acting and visual.
Almost any movie/TV involving diplomacy or the UN is unwatchable for me. My wife loved Madame Secretary, but for me it was like fingernails on a blackboard, despite the delectable Tea Leoni. (something wrong with block quotes, lumping Cyclefree's comments in with mine)1 -
HST talking football with RN is my 2nd favorite part ; 1st is Thompson's account of Ed Muskie versus the Savage Boohoo.Nigelb said:
Just started rereading ‘Campaign Trail.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Re: last nights sidebar re: Hunter S. Thompson, note that HST's first book, which justly earned him fame if not fortune, was "Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga".Alistair said:
https://twitter.com/agearan/status/1317662436489560066alex_ said:
Trump had any rallies there?Nigelb said:
Along with North and South Dakota...Benpointer said:
Czech Republic is giving Belgium a run for their money over the last few days :-(alex_ said:
Not quite. Even they are getting on for 1.7 times the size of Belgium with fewer cases.another_richard said:
The Netherlands are almost as bad.alex_ said:another_richard said:If we're comparing new cases Sunday by Sunday then:
France
11/10/20 16,101
18/10 20 29,837
Italy
11/10/20 5,456
18/10/20 11,705
Poland
11/10/20 4,178
18/10/20 8,536
are all looking worrying.
All three doing significantly less testing than the UK.
Honourable mention to Belgium pretending to be a country of five times its actual size.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1317906618944614400
He combines snark, vituperation, observation, and genuine feeling in a manner unmatched since.
The story of his sitting in the back of Nixon’s car in ‘68, talking football for two hours, is rather strange and wonderful.
Would have been great on Twitter.
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So no reason to switch Netflix off then? What a shame.Casino_Royale said:
It's just as bad as I thought it would be.CorrectHorseBattery said:Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging
Laurie's villainous character is far too obvious. They got the Tories 'destroying our future', privatising/selling off the NHS, gross indifference to justice, and a bit of wink-wink racist insinuation all in the first episode. Plus the sex was just gratitutous - absolutely no story at all: people just walk into a flat, shut the door and start shagging.
I mean, really?
And like @Cyclefree says the legal stuff was just poor - my wife is a solicitor and was shaking her head throughout.
If I continue watching it will be because of Hugh Laurie and Hugh Laurie alone.0 -
I'd be wary of holding up Indonesia as a beacon of good pandemic response.IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:
The remedies reflect the unscientific approach to battling the coronavirus in the world’s fourth-most populous country, where the rate of testing is among the world’s lowest, contact tracing is minimal, and authorities have resisted lockdowns even as infections spiked.
Indonesia has officially reported 6,346 deaths from COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, the highest overall toll in Southeast Asia. Including people who died with acute COVID-19 symptoms but were not tested, the death toll is three times higher.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-indonesia-insight-idUSKCN25G02J
I do admit on the face of it, the stats look good, as per Vietnam.0 -
"NHS" is just a label that the various health-based businesses stick to their signs so that the public know which doors to go through. There is no "monolithic" NHS organisation...JohnLilburne said:
Why do ill people in the north have to go to hospital in the north? Its supposed to be a national health service.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1317933670460739587
Levelling down the North, these people I hope will never vote Tory again0 -
Almost any movie/TV involving diplomacy or the UN is unwatchable for me. My wife loved Madame Secretary, but for me it was like fingernails on a blackboard, despite the delectable Tea Leoni. (something wrong with block quotes, lumping Cyclefree's comments in with mine)TimT said:
And one of the funniest.Cyclefree said:
Green wing is the most accurate.Nigelb said:
Not even Bodies ?Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
One of Mercurio’s most entertaining.
** Taps nose significantly **Benpointer said:
You should write a script or novel @Cyclefree. I for one would watch / read it.Cyclefree said:
I offered my advice to them. Still waiting to hear back......FrancisUrquhart said:
Recent big BBC dramas have suffered the other way...the first 2-3 episodes promising, then rapidly downhill e.g. McMafia.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The real stories are so much more interesting than what gets invented and it’s really not hard to find those who have such stories.
Characters identified and named and plot outline. But script-writing - eesh! Looked at a professional script the other day. So much is in the acting and visual.
MY COMMENTS START HERE (Bloody diplomats messing up block quotes!)
The trouble is - and I’ve yet to find a way through it - is making what is interesting, shocking etc to those in the know also interesting to a general audience without having to explain everything at tedious length.
So it’s a case of stripping down to the essentials of what makes a good story.
Easy to say. Hard to do. Where’s @SeanT when you need him, eh?0 -
Ten days ago:CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1317933670460739587
Levelling down the North, these people I hope will never vote Tory again
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/hospitals-in-north-of-england-to-run-out-of-covid-beds-within-a-week
Its always 'within a week'.0 -
@LadyG can "stand in" @Cyclefree0
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Yes - I can have a banker besotted with newts.......!CorrectHorseBattery said:@LadyG can "stand in" @Cyclefree
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That's a very strange reading of that graph, when you compare non-Asian countries with a death rate of under 250 per million with those with a death rate of over 500 per million - i.e. at least twice as high, and often much more. Although the economic hit doesn't vary massively between non-Asian countries, the death rate certainly does.IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:0 -
Though Hubert Humphrey did win Texas in 1968 yet still lost nationally!MikeSmithson said:
If Texas flips then Trump has zero chance.rkrkrk said:That is amazing. And will presumably be a massive blow to those trying c
voter suppression.0 -
Or to another northern hospital ten miles away.JohnLilburne said:
Why do ill people in the north have to go to hospital in the north? Its supposed to be a national health service.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1317933670460739587
Levelling down the North, these people I hope will never vote Tory again0 -
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
0 -
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.1 -
Why not back (even longer) Trump narrow win bands. What do we think he might get in the Biden disaster scenario?Foxy said:
I think that a good band. It covers Trump wins but also narrow Biden wins.lockhimup said:Betting post:
Trump is currently 2.6 on betfair and Biden 8 to get 46% - 49%.
Surely virtually all of Trump's wins would leave Biden between those percentages.
Obviously its just about possible that Biden could lose with over 49% of the vote but unlikely (only Nixon has lost with 49+ since the war).
Also v unlikely that Biden will end up below 46% and the odds are over 3x higher.
Value?
Eg bit of Trump 49-52% at 12.5
I can't make my mind up on some of these fringe bf markets. Seems like a lot of weird prices.0 -
A friend of mine is an ex-spook. Spooks needless to say is nothing like the real thing.
Just watching the Savoy documentary. There is something a bit sad about all these rich lonely women coming to a hotel for company. Lots of luxury and pampering no doubt. But still...0 -
The graph is very flawed by mixing data sets, they've got until June on the Y Axis and until mid October on the X Axis.Northern_Al said:
That's a very strange reading of that graph, when you compare non-Asian countries with a death rate of under 250 per million with those with a death rate of over 500 per million - i.e. at least twice as high, and often much more. Although the economic hit doesn't vary massively between non-Asian countries, the death rate certainly does.IanB2 said:
Take out the purple Asian countries, where there is an array of other factors in play, and there really isn’t any significant correlation there at all.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Intriguingly if they didn't screw that up it'd probably improve their theory. Most of the nations with high deaths but less economic damage are in the Americas - the USA, Brazil, Chile for example. But their deaths were in Q3 so you're showing deaths from Q3 but not the economic damage from Q3.
Once we have an accurate 2020 chart not the flawed one I suspect it will show the correlation between controlling the virus and reducing damage to the economy even clearer.
It's long been known that if healthcare collapses the economy does too because people get afraid.0 -
I always liked the Kaiser's excuses for invading Belgium -kle4 said:People really get into the competitive spirit I see.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of violating a humanitarian ceasefire in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh...
But an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said Azerbaijan broke the ceasefire after just four minutes by firing artillery shells and rockets.
Azerbaijan later said Armenia had broken the truce after two minutes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54586437
By this time tomorrow they'll be arguing who broke it down to the tenth of a second.
- That if he hadn't done it, the French would have. The French not having plans to do so and having moved their troops away from Belgium was evidence of their perfidy.
- The French withdrawing from the border with Germany, to their fortifications was a disgusting trick to put Germany in the bad. By making them have to invade...
- The Belgians illegally resisted being invaded.
I've just realised that in an another life, the Kaiser could have been happy as a cop in certain parts of small town America.
"He was attacking me"
"Hence the 47 bullets in the back.... Just sprinkle some crack on him and we are good here. That was a nasty, sharp, piece of fruit he was carrying...."1 -
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.0 -
Fruit?Malmesbury said:
I always liked the Kaiser's excuses for invading Belgium -kle4 said:People really get into the competitive spirit I see.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have accused each other of violating a humanitarian ceasefire in the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh...
But an Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman said Azerbaijan broke the ceasefire after just four minutes by firing artillery shells and rockets.
Azerbaijan later said Armenia had broken the truce after two minutes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54586437
By this time tomorrow they'll be arguing who broke it down to the tenth of a second.
- That if he hadn't done it, the French would have. The French not having plans to do so and having moved their troops away from Belgium was evidence of their perfidy.
- The French withdrawing from the border with Germany, to their fortifications was a disgusting trick to put Germany in the bad. By making them have to invade...
- The Belgians illegally resisted being invaded.
I've just realised that in an another life, the Kaiser could have been happy as a cop in certain parts of small town America.
"He was attacking me"
"Hence the 47 bullets in the back.... Just sprinkle some crack on him and we are good here. That was a nasty, sharp, piece of fruit he was carrying...."
The real thugs carry Campbell's Soup 🍲0 -
Bodies was a bit in the Sean mode.Cyclefree said:
MY COMMENTS START HERE (Bloody diplomats messing up block quotes!)
The trouble is - and I’ve yet to find a way through it - is making what is interesting, shocking etc to those in the know also interesting to a general audience without having to explain everything at tedious length.
So it’s a case of stripping down to the essentials of what makes a good story.
Easy to say. Hard to do. Where’s @SeanT when you need him, eh?
Utterly scabrous; half the medics were drunk or incompetent; the management either craven or bullying; patients treated with condescension or obfuscation.
Appeared quite realistic
And Keith Allen’s best role.
1 -
When you get a mahoosive tight curly perm, and not a moment sòoner.Philip_Thompson said:
Does that mean we can get some decent music soon?dixiedean said:The spectre of mass unemployment. Northern councils in bitter standoff with Whitehall. Everton, Villa, Liverpool top 3. An inability to meet the demand for sports leisurewear.
It's all gone a bit 80's.1 -
Many years ago, just out of university I had a job interview with what turned out to be a TLA, or it being the UK a TL+ONA. It seemed from what I could glean that the job would in practice involve much hanging around in car parks in the less-pleasant parts of Northern Ireland late at night waiting to meet informants, so I wasn’t very upset that I didn’t get past the first interview.Cyclefree said:A friend of mine is an ex-spook. Spooks needless to say is nothing like the real thing.
Just watching the Savoy documentary. There is something a bit sad about all these rich lonely women coming to a hotel for company. Lots of luxury and pampering no doubt. But still...
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It's written by David Hare, so it's hardly surprising that it has a slant. Do you get equally snowflakey about the TV stuff written by Michael Dobbs?Casino_Royale said:
It's just as bad as I thought it would be.CorrectHorseBattery said:Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging
Laurie's villainous character is far too obvious. They got the Tories 'destroying our future', privatising/selling off the NHS, gross indifference to justice, and a bit of wink-wink racist insinuation all in the first episode. Plus the sex was just gratitutous - absolutely no story at all: people just walk into a flat, shut the door and start shagging.
I mean, really?
And like @Cyclefree says the legal stuff was just poor - my wife is a solicitor and was shaking her head throughout.
If I continue watching it will be because of Hugh Laurie and Hugh Laurie alone.1 -
PPC church council not local government I thinkkle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.0 -
My Parish Council is always advertising for members. We haven't had an election in 15 years I've lived here.kle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.0 -
While we’re back with Humphrey and Hunter S, I see that James A Johnson has just died.justin124 said:
Though Hubert Humphrey did win Texas in 1968 yet still lost nationally!MikeSmithson said:
If Texas flips then Trump has zero chance.rkrkrk said:That is amazing. And will presumably be a massive blow to those trying c
voter suppression.
Ran Mondale’s campaign against Reagan. Which capped a long stretch of rough losses.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/18/james-johnson-obituaries-mondale-430078
... Johnson had a political, cultural and business resume that prompted Harold M. Ickes, President Bill Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, to dub him “the chairman of the universe.” Johnson chaired the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, the Brookings Institution think tank and Fannie Mae all at the same time.
Besides running Mondale’s failed run for the White House against Ronald Reagan in 1984, Johnson was a key player in the presidential campaigns of Eugene McCarthy, Edmund Muskie and George McGovern...
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A common misconception. They acted more like a PCC, but were explicitly referred to as a parish council on many occasions. There was a specific episode about the Chair being on the District Council, however.nichomar said:
PPC church council not local government I thinkkle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.1 -
I have a theory that bad TV led to Donald Trumpkle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
No, not the obvious way.
During the late Soviet Union, the state broadcasters pirated (pretty much) Dallas and Dynasty. To show the proles the evils of Capitalism.
This taught every Russian that Capitalists -
- Never actually do real work
- Work consists of macho threats, drinking and elaborate criminal conspiracies against your partners. Murder included.
- All women need giant hair, giant shoulder pads, more alcohol etc
When 1989 came the Russians set out to implement Capitalism.
Some time later Putin met Donald Trump. It was plainly obvious that Trump was better at American Capitalism than anyone else (apart from the drinking).......0 -
PCC, otherwise agreed.nichomar said:
PPC church council not local government I thinkkle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.0 -
It is curious that there have been very few successful portrayals of the world of money in drama or fiction over the last two or three decades. Not sure why. I wrote about it here - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/financial-dramas/.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
Ironically the best ever single essay on the financial world was written by a novelist, Julian Barnes - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/ask-not-for-whom-the-bell-tolls/.0 -
A lot of the time it's because the council is a lot larger than it needs to be. A parish council with 11, 13 or even more members will often struggle to have sufficient candidates to require an election. Unless you're a very large parish or a town, I think you'd rarely need more than 9. Did have an election round my way with 15 seats and 16 candidates, so one poor bugger missed out.dixiedean said:
My Parish Council is always advertising for members. We haven't had an election in 15 years I've lived here.kle4 said:
And of course we have the whole gang, practically, being parish councillors on Vicar of Dibley, though I doubt any were elected (excepting the Chair, who was elected on the district council).another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
Principal authorities have the ability to sort such matters out, but unless requested to do so I believe they are very reluctant to go against the status quo or even look into it. It's not unheard of to discover parishes which haven't even had any councillors for years as they cannot find anyone to stand.
Parishes as a whole can be a murky business, as its hard to even complain about the things they do have authority to do, if you think there is a problem.0 -
Minder had an episode with Arthur Daley standing for election to the borough council.another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.0 -
Hunter Biden story going well
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1317945295196532736?s=19
You'd think legitimate journalist would want to be associated with the scoop of the century.0 -
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The BBC will be paying Hugh Laurie a damn sight less than he'd charge Netflix.Philip_Thompson said:
So no reason to switch Netflix off then? What a shame.Casino_Royale said:
It's just as bad as I thought it would be.CorrectHorseBattery said:Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging
Laurie's villainous character is far too obvious. They got the Tories 'destroying our future', privatising/selling off the NHS, gross indifference to justice, and a bit of wink-wink racist insinuation all in the first episode. Plus the sex was just gratitutous - absolutely no story at all: people just walk into a flat, shut the door and start shagging.
I mean, really?
And like @Cyclefree says the legal stuff was just poor - my wife is a solicitor and was shaking her head throughout.
If I continue watching it will be because of Hugh Laurie and Hugh Laurie alone.1 -
My favs about money in film/dram areCyclefree said:
It is curious that there have been very few successful portrayals of the world of money in drama or fiction over the last two or three decades. Not sure why. I wrote about it here - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/financial-dramas/.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
Ironically the best ever single essay on the financial world was written by a novelist, Julian Barnes - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/ask-not-for-whom-the-bell-tolls/.
Billions
The Big Short
Margin Call (really good !)
Casino (gangster mixed with money /business)
Hustle (how to get it illegally!)
Ozarks (mainly about money laundering with a bit of Hick /Redneck quirkiness!)
You are right though in that loads of films /dramas about politics and power and crime and even law (I used to joke when working in an accountancy firm in the 1990s that whilst a drama then was called LA law you would never get one called W1 Accountancy!)
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Boiler Room was pretty good - apart from a couple of liberties with technicalities...Cyclefree said:
It is curious that there have been very few successful portrayals of the world of money in drama or fiction over the last two or three decades. Not sure why. I wrote about it here - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/financial-dramas/.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
Ironically the best ever single essay on the financial world was written by a novelist, Julian Barnes - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/ask-not-for-whom-the-bell-tolls/.0 -
Trouble is, Trump probably wins with anything above 47 so you can't arb so easily with the 49+ band.edb said:
Why not back (even longer) Trump narrow win bands. What do we think he might get in the Biden disaster scenario?Foxy said:
I think that a good band. It covers Trump wins but also narrow Biden wins.lockhimup said:Betting post:
Trump is currently 2.6 on betfair and Biden 8 to get 46% - 49%.
Surely virtually all of Trump's wins would leave Biden between those percentages.
Obviously its just about possible that Biden could lose with over 49% of the vote but unlikely (only Nixon has lost with 49+ since the war).
Also v unlikely that Biden will end up below 46% and the odds are over 3x higher.
Value?
Eg bit of Trump 49-52% at 12.5
I can't make my mind up on some of these fringe bf markets. Seems like a lot of weird prices.
The point is rather than back Trump at 2.6 you may as well back Biden at 8 to get 46-49 because if Trump were to win, Biden would be in this band nearly always.
You could also of course lay Trump at 2.62 and hedge with Biden 46/49 at 8.
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Wall Street was good. ("Greed is good.")state_go_away said:
My favs about money in film/dram areCyclefree said:
It is curious that there have been very few successful portrayals of the world of money in drama or fiction over the last two or three decades. Not sure why. I wrote about it here - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/financial-dramas/.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
Ironically the best ever single essay on the financial world was written by a novelist, Julian Barnes - https://barry-walsh.co.uk/ask-not-for-whom-the-bell-tolls/.
Billions
The Big Short
Margin Call (really good !)
Casino (gangster mixed with money /business)
Hustle (how to get it illegally!)
My Cousin Vinny is said to be recommended viewing at American law schools for its accurate portrayal of trial procedure.0 -
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Not for long.rcs1000 said:NEW POST
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Someone was asking about the possible legal consequences for Trump should he lose.
Here’s a long (but almost certainly not exhaustive) list:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/trump-election-legal-reckoning/index.html0 -
Though from the reviews tonight, if Netflix made it then it might actually have been a good drama.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The BBC will be paying Hugh Laurie a damn sight less than he'd charge Netflix.Philip_Thompson said:
So no reason to switch Netflix off then? What a shame.Casino_Royale said:
It's just as bad as I thought it would be.CorrectHorseBattery said:Roadkill conclusion: everyone is shagging
Laurie's villainous character is far too obvious. They got the Tories 'destroying our future', privatising/selling off the NHS, gross indifference to justice, and a bit of wink-wink racist insinuation all in the first episode. Plus the sex was just gratitutous - absolutely no story at all: people just walk into a flat, shut the door and start shagging.
I mean, really?
And like @Cyclefree says the legal stuff was just poor - my wife is a solicitor and was shaking her head throughout.
If I continue watching it will be because of Hugh Laurie and Hugh Laurie alone.0 -
Iain Beale was a councillor in EastEnders years back.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Minder had an episode with Arthur Daley standing for election to the borough council.another_richard said:
I can't remember Eastenders doing local council elections but decades ago it was quite big on Coronation Street with Len Fairclough, Alf Roberts and Deidre Barlow all being councillors.kle4 said:
I am genuinely intrigued to learn they have ever bothered to do so, and would love to know how they portrayed it.No_Offence_Alan said:
Don't get me started on how Eastenders portray local council elections.Foxy said:
For similar reasons I cannot abide medical dramas.Cyclefree said:
God Almighty! Why can’t its producers get the legal aspects right? It’s not hard. Spoils the credibility for me.Casino_Royale said:
It's just the sort of good drama (I hope) that the BBC should be doing much more of.kinabalu said:
Oh yes. In the bag. Thanks for flagging. Who needs atomized globalist Netflix? Not us.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Roadkill -- new politics drama BBC1 9pm tonight
Celebrating his win in a newspaper libel case, cabinet minister Peter Laurence is summoned to Downing Street to see PM Dawn Ellison, who reveals she is looking to promote him to an office of state. However, he is soon bought back down to earth with a bump when his special adviser Duncan Knock reveals an inmate in a women's prison is claiming to have a secret about his past that could affect his future.
Thriller by David Hare, starring Hugh Laurie and Helen McCrory.
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/mrg9jq/roadkill--series-1-episode-1/
I expect it to have a leftist "Tories are evil" tilt - luvvie screenwriters almost always struggle to get Conservatives right, or don't want to - but I'll still be watching enthusiastically.
I know, I know, I’m being a pedant, should get a life etc etc.....
Still, for a huge fee, I am available to act as the legal consultant to aspiring dramatists......
I'm very forgiving of shows taking huge liberties with how things really are in governance, law or medicine, or whatever, depending on how 'realistic' they are seeking to portray themselves, but when you can be relatively realistic without sacrificing the story or the type of story you are telling, and it would take a 5 minute google search to be closer to reality, there's not really much excuse.
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