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Surely not first?
And the biggest lesson from the Veepstakes I thought was "don't bet on them"?
Albeit "lay the favourite" might be a good one. You're bound to have several favourites over time and only one of them will win.1 -
Amazingly so.Andy_Cooke said:Surely not first?
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Pip is right. While I made a reasonable amount on this market, it could have been a lot more if I had laid Warren at 5s not 12s, Abrams 4s not 8s, etc. It is an interesting challenge.0
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Can somebody explain what it means when they say young people don't have respect for British values? YouGov poll0
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I'm sure Alistair Haimes and Toby Young will be able to prove I was actually no higher than fiftieth or sixtieth...Alistair said:
Amazingly so.Andy_Cooke said:Surely not first?
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I think it's a quote from Cicero, isn't it? Kids these days?CorrectHorseBattery said:Can somebody explain what it means when they say young people don't have respect for British values? YouGov poll
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All good advice.
Can we republish this in three and a half years' time ?
I did remark a few days ago that consistently laying the second favourite (there were many) would have been a very profitable strategy.
Sadly I realised this a bit late in the day to have benefitted (possibly as I'd got on Harris at decent odds, and used most of my betting money on laying Trump).0 -
Ah, just spotted a typo. Typical...0
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That they didn't vote for Brexit.CorrectHorseBattery said:Can somebody explain what it means when they say young people don't have respect for British values? YouGov poll
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If only your publisher was on the thread.Quincel said:Ah, just spotted a typo. Typical...
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What Pip's header might also have mentioned is that in the last day or two there were frequent flip-flops where Rice and then Harris would become favourite for a couple of hours. You could have made a fair few quid just trading the front two on the last day, and no doubt someone's bot did just that.0
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"Yes, Harris was an early favourite who was chosen, but see she was far from the only person to be backed very low."TheScreamingEagles said:
If only your publisher was on the thread.Quincel said:Ah, just spotted a typo. Typical...
Remove the 'see'. Comes from a draft where the sentence was 'as we will see, she was[...]'. Shortened for brevity, but not proofed properly by the author.0 -
On topic, this is the first Veep market I've turned a profit on in since 2004.
It is a market where it is best to lay.
That's my advice for 2024.1 -
Fixed.Quincel said:
"Yes, Harris was an early favourite who was chosen, but see she was far from the only person to be backed very low."TheScreamingEagles said:
If only your publisher was on the thread.Quincel said:Ah, just spotted a typo. Typical...
Remove the 'see'. Comes from a draft where the sentence was 'as we will see, she was[...]'. Shortened for brevity, but not proofed properly by the author.0 -
This is true, but I think trading very late you risk getting your hand caught in the cookie jar when the music stops (to mix some metaphors). Definitely money to be made for the brave, but not my style.DecrepiterJohnL said:What Pip's header might also have mentioned is that in the last day or two there were frequent flip-flops where Rice and then Harris would become favourite for a couple of hours. You could have made a fair few quid just trading the front two on the last day, and no doubt someone's bot did just that.
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BBC: "Toronto strip club case leaves hundreds potentially exposed"
With headlines like that, a job at The Sun awaits!3 -
This approach makes a great deal of sense (particularly as individuals who are to only infected, but also currently infectious are more likely to be detected).
https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1294117704517877760
Similar regulatory problem over here, too, I think.
https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/12941177058642370570 -
I hope the new name for the site is permanent!0
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I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?0 -
A very good article.
It does seem to me that the lesson is to cover some fairly long odds but vaguely credible bets at the early stages (primary contenders, people with interesting back-stories in the Senate or Governor's mansions) then sell when they are having their 15 minutes of fame and come in to 3-1 or better. This year, it means you'd have profited despite never directly backing the potential winner (who was always well fancied). It's just a very fad-ish market.
Selling Hilary and Michelle would also have been wise this year. So much chatter over things that were never even vaguely plausible.0 -
I despise this lot.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?0 -
Another thing is to remember to look at the conventional bookmakers. At one point late on, Ladbrokes and Paddy Power had different favourites.Quincel said:
This is true, but I think trading very late you risk getting your hand caught in the cookie jar when the music stops (to mix some metaphors). Definitely money to be made for the brave, but not my style.DecrepiterJohnL said:What Pip's header might also have mentioned is that in the last day or two there were frequent flip-flops where Rice and then Harris would become favourite for a couple of hours. You could have made a fair few quid just trading the front two on the last day, and no doubt someone's bot did just that.
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A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/12940254224898048060 -
This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles0 -
But were they different enough that you could have backed the second favourite with both and profited whichever won?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Another thing is to remember to look at the conventional bookmakers. At one point late on, Ladbrokes and Paddy Power had different favourites.Quincel said:
This is true, but I think trading very late you risk getting your hand caught in the cookie jar when the music stops (to mix some metaphors). Definitely money to be made for the brave, but not my style.DecrepiterJohnL said:What Pip's header might also have mentioned is that in the last day or two there were frequent flip-flops where Rice and then Harris would become favourite for a couple of hours. You could have made a fair few quid just trading the front two on the last day, and no doubt someone's bot did just that.
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But wasn't Harris favourite almost throughout? Others came close and occasionally nudged ahead, but I am not sure it was volatile enough right at the top of the field for that to have worked this time.Andy_Cooke said:Surely not first?
And the biggest lesson from the Veepstakes I thought was "don't bet on them"?
Albeit "lay the favourite" might be a good one. You're bound to have several favourites over time and only one of them will win.0 -
Good piece thanks. Yes, the pro strategy for a market like this is to build up a book over time laying the nonsense and the hype of the moment. You have every chance of being all green and for decent sums by the time it's over.
In fact this is a general betting technique of mine. Go against the herd when I sense the herd getting overexcited. It works particularly well for golf in play betting. Player on a charge, lay them. Player drops a couple of shots, back them. Then close out for a small profit if things stabilize and a big one if they switch.0 -
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/12940254224898048060 -
Oh god. Talk about getting into legal difficulties.TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles0 -
That, too.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/12940254224898048060 -
Hence my observation about laying the second favourites.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
But wasn't Harris favourite almost throughout? Others came close and occasionally nudged ahead, but I am not sure it was volatile enough right at the top of the field for that to have worked this time.Andy_Cooke said:Surely not first?
And the biggest lesson from the Veepstakes I thought was "don't bet on them"?
Albeit "lay the favourite" might be a good one. You're bound to have several favourites over time and only one of them will win.0 -
"Lay the favourite" would have lost money, unless you executed very effectively in which case you'd have probably gone green by laying Rice at 1/2 or less. But that was a very narrow window. I am proposing more "Lay the steamer" when someone's odds drop rapidly and "Hold your nerve" to lay people pretty low when their odds do come in. Then back them again when they hit 50/1 or so.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
But wasn't Harris favourite almost throughout? Others came close and occasionally nudged ahead, but I am not sure it was volatile enough right at the top of the field for that to have worked this time.Andy_Cooke said:Surely not first?
And the biggest lesson from the Veepstakes I thought was "don't bet on them"?
Albeit "lay the favourite" might be a good one. You're bound to have several favourites over time and only one of them will win.0 -
It would be correct to reduce Johnson's majority slightly...CorrectHorseBattery said:
The alternative is the parliament being decided by MPs themselves in this scenario...0 -
Goes with the territory. Where do they think the expression "chamber pot" comes from?kinabalu said:
Oh god. Talk about getting into legal difficulties.TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles1 -
Some thought experiments are just plain stupid. This falls into that category.CorrectHorseBattery said:1 -
Sounds like a new form of torture.kinabalu said:
Oh god. Talk about getting into legal difficulties.TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles
Perhaps we should call it the bladder rack.1 -
Politico is coming up with some consistently good reporting on the campaign.
This story of the Obama/Biden relationship is very interesting (and on the money about Obama's faults, I think).
‘The President Was Not Encouraging’: What Obama Really Thought About Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-3935700 -
I agree. In the last year or so, I think politico has consistently upped the quality of their work. I never used to bother with them, but now I feel they are amongst the best political commentators out there.Nigelb said:Politico is coming up with some consistently good reporting on the campaign.
This story of the Obama/Biden relationship is very interesting.
‘The President Was Not Encouraging’: What Obama Really Thought About Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570
Or maybe it is that I have totally lost faith in the GOP as currently constituted.0 -
It does not help, and misses the point which is to sow confusion and dissent and distract from real issues, just like when used against Obama and (let us not forget) Cruz.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/12940254224898048060 -
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Particularly ironic that it was an ethics exam ...ydoethur said:
Sounds like a new form of torture.kinabalu said:
Oh god. Talk about getting into legal difficulties.TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles
Perhaps we should call it the bladder rack.0 -
You’re quite right, it is.TimT said:
Some thought experiments are just plain stupid. This falls into that category.CorrectHorseBattery said:
So why the fuck did they use it for exam grades?0 -
I am in agreement with you. I fail to see why examination setters can't replace their usual model with an open book exam to meet the realities of COVID. Hell, a good open book exam could easily tell you more about actual learning than a 'spew out the correct answer' exam.ydoethur said:
You’re quite right, it is.TimT said:
Some thought experiments are just plain stupid. This falls into that category.CorrectHorseBattery said:
So why the fuck did they use it for exam grades?1 -
Though the real disgrace is Newsweek actually publishing this as an opinion piece.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/1294025422489804806
Giving a platform to an evident racist lie helps give it traction.
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Masterful article with excellent advice. I sincerely hope everyone has forgotten it by 2024.
I'd add one additional thing which is that there were some dead certainty bets on this market that were pretty profitable (figures in brackets are prices I got - not the best available).
Hilary Clinton (laid at 35), Michelle Obama (laid at 15), Mitt Romney (laid at 95), Barack Obama (laid at 110)…0 -
Yes.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
But were they different enough that you could have backed the second favourite with both and profited whichever won?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Another thing is to remember to look at the conventional bookmakers. At one point late on, Ladbrokes and Paddy Power had different favourites.Quincel said:
This is true, but I think trading very late you risk getting your hand caught in the cookie jar when the music stops (to mix some metaphors). Definitely money to be made for the brave, but not my style.DecrepiterJohnL said:What Pip's header might also have mentioned is that in the last day or two there were frequent flip-flops where Rice and then Harris would become favourite for a couple of hours. You could have made a fair few quid just trading the front two on the last day, and no doubt someone's bot did just that.
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The article says Biden only got Cs and Ds at Delaware University apart from an A in PE, Obama was closer to the more cerebral and disciplined Hillary though Biden was more folksyNigelb said:Politico is coming up with some consistently good reporting on the campaign.
This story of the Obama/Biden relationship is very interesting (and on the money about Obama's faults, I think).
‘The President Was Not Encouraging’: What Obama Really Thought About Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-3935700 -
When you have a global pandemic there are going to be some losers. Also, it looks as though the more unequal your society is, the more unequal will be the consequences.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This would be a lot less of a problem if we abandoned the myth of meritocracy.
In any case we don't need a thought experiment. We faced this problem in WWII, and what happened was that the general election was delayed. Suggests obvious solution of asking all kids to repeat a year.0 -
That was my main thought.Nigelb said:
Though the real disgrace is Newsweek actually publishing this as an opinion piece.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/1294025422489804806
Giving a platform to an evident racist lie helps give it traction.
Wither "cancel culture" when you need it?0 -
But at least they don't want to abolish animals.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/12940254224898048060 -
Is the light actually abysmal at Southampton or are the umpires verging on the ridiculous side of caution >?0
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Case data out at last
Scaled to 100k Population
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"Shorts and 5L bottle" reminds me of the old hippy dude in Hyde Park at the Roger Waters gig. Plastic pint glass gets compressed and inserted up leg, then removed full and the wee thrown on the grass. Was rather impressive TBH and can't have been any less sanitary than the toilets *shudder*TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles0 -
England case data - absolute
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And where do we get the twice as many GCSE A Level teachers and classrooms from?LostPassword said:
When you have a global pandemic there are going to be some losers. Also, it looks as though the more unequal your society is, the more unequal will be the consequences.CorrectHorseBattery said:
This would be a lot less of a problem if we abandoned the myth of meritocracy.
In any case we don't need a thought experiment. We faced this problem in WWII, and what happened was that the general election was delayed. Suggests obvious solution of asking all kids to repeat a year.0 -
England case data - regions
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Good piece and Quincel is absolutely right. The big 'but' is that you can't really make big bucks like this without taking huge risks. In fact the principle applies to most betting markets and if you are prepared to accumulate small profits you can happily do so in a variety of sports. Dog-racing is good for this, because there are a lot of races and the betting tends to be volatile. You do occasionally get caught out though so net returns at the end of the day hardly justify the effort.0
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Hard for me to picture that working but I feel compelled to try at the first opportunity.RochdalePioneers said:
"Shorts and 5L bottle" reminds me of the old hippy dude in Hyde Park at the Roger Waters gig. Plastic pint glass gets compressed and inserted up leg, then removed full and the wee thrown on the grass. Was rather impressive TBH and can't have been any less sanitary than the toilets *shudder*TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
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Newsweek is not what it was.Nigelb said:
Though the real disgrace is Newsweek actually publishing this as an opinion piece.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/1294025422489804806
Giving a platform to an evident racist lie helps give it traction.
Much worse than the original piece was the defence that Newsweek published. Utterly jaw dropping.0 -
AS long as its not the shorts and the 5L bottle? That sounds well dodgy.kinabalu said:
Hard for me to picture that working but I feel compelled to try at the first opportunity.RochdalePioneers said:
"Shorts and 5L bottle" reminds me of the old hippy dude in Hyde Park at the Roger Waters gig. Plastic pint glass gets compressed and inserted up leg, then removed full and the wee thrown on the grass. Was rather impressive TBH and can't have been any less sanitary than the toilets *shudder*TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
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He is an absolute plankCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/MiriamBrett/status/1294287300365606912
It's a country.0 -
Actually, they kind of have a point don;t they?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I despise this lot.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?
The super rich probably are too rich relative to the rest of us. and the gap is only growing.
Things we took for granted even thirty years ago are suddenly starting to become out of our reach again.
The family holiday abroad (COVID!) The petrol car (Climate Change!) A warm gas heated boiler home (Climate change!) Any home (Population growth!). Education for our kids (COVID!). Decent health treatment (COVID!).
Is this by design? Probably not. But this year all that has happened. You might say it'll be back before we know it, and these are short term problems. I hope so.
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If they're playing to the English I sort of get it but this is the kind of nonsense which just pushes Scotland away.malcolmg said:
He is an absolute plankCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/MiriamBrett/status/1294287300365606912
It's a country.
This Government is so utterly clueless when it comes to anything to do with Scotland, I feel.0 -
Feel proper shit just want the Scottish seats back
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Just think how the PB Tories feel when looking at maps of elections from the 50s.CorrectHorseBattery said:Feel proper shit just want the Scottish seats back
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https://twitter.com/momentumleeds/status/1294220926951849986?s=21TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
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If Momentum don't want to tax people who earn £150K it just confirms they don't belong in the Labour party. They should all fuck off and join the Tories.contrarian said:
Actually, they kind of have a point don;t they?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I despise this lot.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?
The super rich probably are too rich relative to the rest of us. and the gap is only growing.
Things we took for granted even thirty years ago are suddenly starting to become out of our reach again.
The family holiday abroad (COVID!) The petrol car (Climate Change!) A warm gas heated boiler home (Climate change!) Any home (Population growth!). Education for our kids (COVID!). Decent health treatment (COVID!).
Is this by design? Probably not. But this year all that has happened. You might say it'll be back before we know it, and these are short term problems. I hope so.
Surely this is a spoof?0 -
On Topic - Harris turned out to be a good bet.
Good job Mike chickened out and made a small profit. Could have been nasty.
My Betting Post from yesterday. I am tempted to take a £210 profit on the draw but still a potential additional £630 profit to go at.
My rationale yesterday was that we would only get 180 overs in total so couldnt see how a positive result could be achieved. Lost Password reckoned there would be over 350 overs (which would likely make my bet a loser.)
86 overs so far so if no more play today and a poor forecast for tomorrow afternoon and the following 2 days i am tempted to keep the bet going.
What do people think take a £210 profit or leave the bet running?
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Did you get the reference?RobD said:
Just think how the PB Tories feel when looking at maps of elections from the 50s.CorrectHorseBattery said:Feel proper shit just want the Scottish seats back
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No, won't be doing that. You shouldn't put any foreign objects in your shorts.malcolmg said:
AS long as its not the shorts and the 5L bottle? That sounds well dodgy.kinabalu said:
Hard for me to picture that working but I feel compelled to try at the first opportunity.RochdalePioneers said:
"Shorts and 5L bottle" reminds me of the old hippy dude in Hyde Park at the Roger Waters gig. Plastic pint glass gets compressed and inserted up leg, then removed full and the wee thrown on the grass. Was rather impressive TBH and can't have been any less sanitary than the toilets *shudder*TheScreamingEagles said:This takes the piss.
The next generation of barristers have complained that they were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during their professional ethics exam this week.
The students were told they would fail their two hour 45 minute Bar Professional Training Course assessment if they left their desk to go to the loo, or if they did not maintain eye contact with their online invigilator.
And so the nation's future barristers, having drunk copious amounts of water to stay hydrated on one of the hottest days of the year, found themselves weeing in containers while staring at a stranger on their laptop.
Bar student Tian Juin See told RollOnFriday that when he asked to be excused about an hour into the exam, the online proctor refused.
"I tried to hold it, but a little while later I asked again and he said no", said Tian.
"It became rather unbearable and it was having an effect on my concentration", he said. Despite "literally begging" the proctor, Tian was told that "policy doesn't allow the use of toilets during exams. I told him that if I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to pee in the bottle, but he still wouldn't let me use the toilet".
"Finally, I couldn't hold it anymore", said Tian. "so I dumped out the water in my bottle all over my carpet", though he couldn't see where he was pouring it as the proctor said he was not allowed to turn away from the camera, "and attempted to take a piss into my bottle, blindly, while trying not to move around too much or look away from my screen".
"When I was done I raised the now yellow bottle to the webcam as if to say: 'Are you happy now?'"
Others were pushed to similarly humiliating extremes. Sophie Lamb, who is studying at BPP University in Leeds, said she had to maintain eye contact with her webcam while urinating, after she was unable to get booked at a test centre. "I took a bucket in and wore a long maxi dress so that I could squat down with my face still on camera", she said. "The sacrifices we make for our careers".
BPTC student Pete Kennedy said, "shorts and 5L bottle for me. Think I stealthed it."
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/aspiring-barristers-forced-urinate-bottles
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I'm now a Tory as I support Biden to win the Presidency, that is what a leftie on Twitter told me.rottenborough said:
If Momentum don't want to tax people who earn £150K it just confirms they don't belong in the Labour party. They should all fuck off and join the Tories.contrarian said:
Actually, they kind of have a point don;t they?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I despise this lot.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?
The super rich probably are too rich relative to the rest of us. and the gap is only growing.
Things we took for granted even thirty years ago are suddenly starting to become out of our reach again.
The family holiday abroad (COVID!) The petrol car (Climate Change!) A warm gas heated boiler home (Climate change!) Any home (Population growth!). Education for our kids (COVID!). Decent health treatment (COVID!).
Is this by design? Probably not. But this year all that has happened. You might say it'll be back before we know it, and these are short term problems. I hope so.
Surely this is a spoof?
When will this people understand there's a massive gap between Corbynism and Blairism. You don't have to be one or the other.
How about we figure out what the public want whilst looking at our principles and go there.
For 2015 Labour was seen as Tory-lite and 2019 Labour was seen as old Labour but worse, there is a gap there we're just not exploring.0 -
Cash out gone up to £300 profit now (from £210 in last 10 mins) i am 50/50 if it goes to £350 i am taking it.1
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/rishi-sunak-londoners-return-work-save-economy-a4524841.html
Just last year they told me to stop wasting money on pointless things like avocado on toast and to save for a deposit instead as anyone can do it.0 -
That's not the criticism, though.contrarian said:
Actually, they kind of have a point don;t they?CorrectHorseBattery said:
I despise this lot.TheScreamingEagles said:I see Momentum take my view on what isn't rich.
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1294205157861990401
Out of curiosity how many British trillionaires are there?
The super rich probably are too rich relative to the rest of us. and the gap is only growing.
Things we took for granted even thirty years ago are suddenly starting to become out of our reach again.
The family holiday abroad (COVID!) The petrol car (Climate Change!) A warm gas heated boiler home (Climate change!) Any home (Population growth!). Education for our kids (COVID!). Decent health treatment (COVID!).
Is this by design? Probably not. But this year all that has happened. You might say it'll be back before we know it, and these are short term problems. I hope so.
The point is that Momentum are saying that hammering the super-rich is (a) possible without them leaving the country; and (b) likely to raise enough to solve social problems without ANY contribution from people earning as much as £150k, which is extremely comfortable to put it at its mildest.
That's incredibly disingenuous snake oil salesmanship - a ludicrous false prospectus to the well off, and downright cruel to people bearing the brunt of social problems.0 -
Bird in the hand is worth two in the bushbigjohnowls said:Cash out gone up to £300 profit now (from £210 in last 10 mins) i am 50/50 if it goes to £350 i am taking it.
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You always think there must be some really really clever thing behind it but it always ends up they prove that they really are just that dumb.CorrectHorseBattery said:
If they're playing to the English I sort of get it but this is the kind of nonsense which just pushes Scotland away.malcolmg said:
He is an absolute plankCorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/MiriamBrett/status/1294287300365606912
It's a country.
This Government is so utterly clueless when it comes to anything to do with Scotland, I feel.0 -
Yes thanks (least so far!) for that. I did the draw too - although only for a fraction of your punt - and I'm leaving it with open layback at 1.25. But for £210 I'd be tempted to take half now.bigjohnowls said:On Topic - Harris turned out to be a good bet.
Good job Mike chickened out and made a small profit. Could have been nasty.
My Betting Post from yesterday. I am tempted to take a £210 profit on the draw but still a potential additional £630 profit to go at.
My rationale yesterday was that we would only get 180 overs in total so couldnt see how a positive result could be achieved. Lost Password reckoned there would be over 350 overs (which would likely make my bet a loser.)
86 overs so far so if no more play today and a poor forecast for tomorrow afternoon and the following 2 days i am tempted to keep the bet going.
What do people think take a £210 profit or leave the bet running?0 -
When yours truly was a kid, Newsweek was - along with Time - a national institution. When they started to decline was just about the same time they (along with Sunday Times) fell for the Hitler Diaries hoax. Or semi-fell; they published, indeed heavily marketed choice excepts from this fraud, but in a way that showed they had their doubts as to it's authenticity.Nigelb said:
Though the real disgrace is Newsweek actually publishing this as an opinion piece.Alistair said:
They're racists. Hope that helps.Nigelb said:A lengthy (and accurate) thread on why those questioning Harris' US citizenship are either utterly ignorant of US law, or utterly disingenuous, or both:
https://twitter.com/juliedcantor/status/1294025422489804806
Giving a platform to an evident racist lie helps give it traction.
Now personally know NOBODY who regularly reads what is left of Newsweek. Once again, they've published a fraud trying to recoup their readership loses.
Tis a strategy fit for losers.0 -
But very suddenly the problem we have isn't that the saving rate is too low, but that it's too high. It's completely possible either for households to be saving too little (storing up liabilities for the future) or too much (leading the service sector to grind to a halt). Last year the problem was the former, now it's very unexpectedly the latter.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/rishi-sunak-londoners-return-work-save-economy-a4524841.html
Just last year they told me to stop wasting money on pointless things like avocado on toast and to save for a deposit instead as anyone can do it.0 -
Interesting bet Pakistan who are currently 223-9 are 1.24 on 225 or more.
Guess it depends if they declare overnight or not0 -
I love these guys, I don't know who is doing their Twitter stuff but Labour should hire them.rottenborough said:
It's like an advert for a Saw movie lol0 -
What will the Government do for young people in the long term so we can buy houses0
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https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1294281202363518977
I wonder if this becomes more common place0 -
Yes, but Scottish IS a brand when it comes to advertising, one that is very appealing, persuasive, powerful in its impact upon consumers. Much more so methinks than English or Welsh (to say nothing of Cornish) and in same league as Irish.CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/MiriamBrett/status/1294287300365606912
It's a country.
Scotland as a brand must rank among the top national brands around the world. Perhaps in part because Scottish does NOT have negative connotations that crop up with British and English (also strong brands) for many people in many countries.
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Labour really should hire them.CorrectHorseBattery said:
I love these guys, I don't know who is doing their Twitter stuff but Labour should hire them.rottenborough said:
It's like an advert for a Saw movie lol
Brilliant ad.2 -
Well, it's trying to make it easier and cheaper to build them,. The opposition parties which young people tend to vote for are slagging them off for it. Funny old world, isn't it?CorrectHorseBattery said:What will the Government do for young people in the long term so we can buy houses
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