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NooffenceAlan Clegg has hinted he would accept an EU referendum0
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I'm not a kipper and I am not talking about homophobia, i'm talking about university segregation by muslims, but if you continue like this I might even become a member of the kippers just for you.antifrank said:
Kippers telling me that I shouldn't be concerned about Kipper homophobia? Well, whodathunkit?Speedy said:
Actually SeanT has a point, I got the point when muslims tried to segregate universities, ironically that is setting left wing atheists against islam.antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2014/03/gender-segregation--universities-and-student-representatives-continue-to-fail-their-students-miserably0 -
Were UKIP to come to power, I think it is hugely unlikely they would persecute gay men and women. And, I suspect that there will be gay men and women voting UKIP tomorrow.0
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To me they're both symptoms of the PC religion.Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually, I agree with that, or at least their double standards about some of the disagreeable variants of Islam which we have encouraged to take root here (and, in case tim is reading this: Yes, I accept that this mistake goes right back to Maggie's time, when the French authorities were tearing their hair out at the lack of action by Britain against some very nasty Algerian terrorist groups who were planting bombs in the Paris metro at the time).MrJones said:The political class' 1000 foot high, glowing pink neon double standard over islam is one of the things that defines the political class.
However, when it comes to double standards, UKIP take the biscuit on this. After all, if the threat is from militant Islam, why on earth are they pretending that it is about EU immigration?
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Show Farage condoning an anti gay statement.antifrank said:
Thank you for telling me who you think is my biggest threat. Personally, I'll stick with being concerned about a party whose candidates want to shoot me and whose leader condones anti-gay statements.SeanT said:
Threats from 5000 miles away?antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/muslim-patrol-anti-gay-harassment-east-london-_n_2527111.html
What will this be like when large parts of London, or other cities, are 20-30% Muslim, or 50% Muslim. It ain't gonna be Godfrey Bloom trying to hit you with a brick.
You are an intellectual coward of the first rank, because you are smart enough to know better, but you choose to delude yourself.
All he did was show understanding of why someone said what they did, rather than hair trigger, zero tolerance nonsense which chucks the baby out with the bathwater.
Nothing worse than smug liberal bigotry. There will be things you say now that you think are reasonable but will look bigoted in another generation.
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Speedy said:
I'm not a kipper and I am not talking about homophobia, i'm talking about university segregation by muslims, but if you continue like this I might even become a member of the kippers just for you.antifrank said:
Kippers telling me that I shouldn't be concerned about Kipper homophobia? Well, whodathunkit?Speedy said:
Actually SeanT has a point, I got the point when muslims tried to segregate universities, ironically that is setting left wing atheists against islam.antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2014/03/gender-segregation--universities-and-student-representatives-continue-to-fail-their-students-miserablySpeedy said:
http://www.chronic-oldham.co.uk/Scott_P said:@rosschawkins: Oldham UKIP leaflet drawn up by Joe Fitzpatrick - fmr agent to ex-Lab MP Phil Woolas
@rosschawkins: Fitzpatrick tells me it was a satire - I'm not saying go out and do it, I'm saying this is what happens
@rosschawkins: UKIP leaflet said: steal postal votes, swap postal votes -- 36,000 copies distributed says Fitzpatrick
"Chronic-Oldham has no connection with UKIP, Joe Fitzpatrick or any other political party!"
Labour mud.
The end.
If it smells like a kipper, and is as daft as a kipper...0 -
Yes, and a cracking speech it is too.Peter_the_Punter said:It was in 1977 that the then Home Secretary, Merlyn Rees, was booed down by the Police Federation. In all the time since, no Minister has had the cojones to stand up to them, until today.
Respect.
Plain speaking doesn't come any plainer than that.0 -
Indeed so. Shortly after denouncing UKIP, the Sun will revert to running stories about Romanian gypsies on benefits.another_richard said:
The Sun advocates working class populism as long as the working class vote for the establishment party which the Murdochs support.isam said:
I for one am very surprised at The Sun's recent take on UKIP.SimonStClare said:Speedy said:
In this case they can not endorse the winner since endorsing UKIP after all this media firestorm is imposible for any newspaper bar the Daily Express and perhaps the Mail.SimonStClare said:
The Sun is always right and backs the winner - on this occasion however, its to close to call.TheScreamingEagles said:The Sun Editorial on who to vote for tomorrow is fascinating.
The Sun @TheSunNewspaper 59s
'It's rare for The Sun to endorse no one at an election' — on tomorrow's Euro elections...
pic.twitter.com/CIJp7lHdq3
Good point - quite honestly since the Sun went behind the pay-wall, I don't think I've seen a single article on the kippers or anything else linked to them on PB - have they been anti Ukip in your opinion?
update - cheers Mr Jones, just read your reply.
I dont buy any paper, but when I go to the Cafe I read The Sun. Until May, it has read like a UKIP pamphlet, endorsing their immigration stance in articles and editorials, and portryaing EU immigration as a bad thing.
I would have been prepared to back them endorsing UKIP at the GE at 6/4.
So I got that wrong! Their volte face has been remarkable
The Sun has discovered that advocating working class populism is now encouraging the working class to vote for a working class populist party instead of the establishment party which the Murdochs support.
There's a 'Downfall' parody to be made here. Rupert would fit the bunker image well.
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Yeap, it would be like under Thatcher, they wouldn't really persecute them and they did have a number of gays not only voting for them but being in power.Sean_F said:Were UKIP to come to power, I think it is hugely unlikely they would persecute gay men and women. And, I suspect that there will be gay men and women voting UKIP tomorrow.
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Bottesford, or maybe Botcheston?isam said:Here is a thing not to be proud of..
Tomorrow I am going to a place called Botteston, which I believe is in Leicestershire
I think that still means I have only been North of Essex less than ten times in my 39 years
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Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.
Of course that in turn leads to an obvious objection: why are UKIP pretending to be a party which wants to take us out of the EU if their real agenda has nothing to do with whether we are in the EU or not?0 -
Do you know if the full video available online?Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, and a cracking speech it is too.Peter_the_Punter said:It was in 1977 that the then Home Secretary, Merlyn Rees, was booed down by the Police Federation. In all the time since, no Minister has had the cojones to stand up to them, until today.
Respect.
Plain speaking doesn't come any plainer than that.0 -
Exactly. pb has the wisest kipper fools in Christendom.Richard_Nabavi said:
Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.0 -
yup, enough to damage Lab but not enough to create a viable alternative to Conanother_richard said:
The Sun advocates working class populism as long as the working class vote for the establishment party which the Murdochs support.
The Sun has discovered that advocating working class populism is now encouraging the working class to vote for a working class populist party instead of the establishment party which the Murdochs support.
There's a 'Downfall' parody to be made here. Rupert would fit the bunker image well.
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This conversation reminded me of this:SeanT said:
Godfrey Bloom is abroad: let the gays cower. He may biff them with a copy of the Express.antifrank said:
Thank you for telling me who you think is my biggest threat. Personally, I'll stick with being concerned about a party whose candidates want to shoot me and whose leader condones anti-gay statements.SeanT said:
Threats from 5000 miles away?antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/muslim-patrol-anti-gay-harassment-east-london-_n_2527111.html
What will this be like when large parts of London, or other cities, are 20-30% Muslim, or 50% Muslim. It ain't gonna be Godfrey Bloom trying to hit you with a brick.
You are an intellectual coward of the first rank, because you are smart enough to know better, but you choose to delude yourself.
100,000s of seriously, virulently homophobic Muslims are immigrating into the UK: nah, not a problem, they make nice samosas.
Rancid, arrogant, bewildered, homosexual fools like you are building your own crematorium. I can't be bothered trying to persuade you any more. Good luck and good night.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/02/the-threats-to-sadiq-khan-remind-us-of-the-dangers-that-many-mps-face/
"Imams from major mosques in Bradford and Southfield responded by denouncing Khan as an apostate. Excommunicating him, they declared his own marriage null and void, and potentially opened the door for others to attack him (exploiting an extremist view that apostates should be killed)."
All this for gay marriage.0 -
This headline says it all
UKIP candidate Peter Lello arrested for 'sex assault' on homeless Bulgarian man
Full article: http://bit.ly/1qW7oMR0 -
Bibulous intellectual derelicts like you are not going to persuade me that Britain is going to become a Salafi outpost within the next 1000 years. But there is a clear and present danger that Britain may be turned into an inward-looking asylum in the thrall of the ravings of prejudiced old men. You seem to want to encourage them. Sweet dreams.SeanT said:
Godfrey Bloom is abroad: let the gays cower. He may biff them with a copy of the Express.antifrank said:
Thank you for telling me who you think is my biggest threat. Personally, I'll stick with being concerned about a party whose candidates want to shoot me and whose leader condones anti-gay statements.SeanT said:
Threats from 5000 miles away?antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/muslim-patrol-anti-gay-harassment-east-london-_n_2527111.html
What will this be like when large parts of London, or other cities, are 20-30% Muslim, or 50% Muslim. It ain't gonna be Godfrey Bloom trying to hit you with a brick.
You are an intellectual coward of the first rank, because you are smart enough to know better, but you choose to delude yourself.
100,000s of seriously, virulently homophobic Muslims are immigrating into the UK: nah, not a problem, they make nice samosas.
Rancid, arrogant, bewildered, homosexual fools like you are building your own crematorium. I can't be bothered trying to persuade you any more. Good luck and good night.0 -
This daft conversation between to Tories is hard to beat for its inanities and total bollocks.Richard_Nabavi said:
Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.
Of course that in turn leads to an obvious objection: why are UKIP pretending to be a party which wants to take us out of the EU if their real agenda has nothing to do with whether we are in the EU or not?
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imo
PC as an ideology started as an anti-nationalist reaction to WWII and has become an anti-native religion.
PC anti-nativism drives both europhilia and the double standards over islam (among many other things) so it's all the same thing to me.
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I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.0
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Bottesford!TwistedFireStopper said:
Bottesford, or maybe Botcheston?isam said:Here is a thing not to be proud of..
Tomorrow I am going to a place called Botteston, which I believe is in Leicestershire
I think that still means I have only been North of Essex less than ten times in my 39 years
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Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Dear MikeK.
What limits would UKIP apply to migration in terms of numbers? How would this affect family re-unification, students and asylum seekers?
I take it as read that EU and Non-EU would not be a consideration and neither would race or religion.MikeK said:
This daft conversation between to Tories is hard to beat for its inanities and total bollocks.Richard_Nabavi said:
Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.
Of course that in turn leads to an obvious objection: why are UKIP pretending to be a party which wants to take us out of the EU if their real agenda has nothing to do with whether we are in the EU or not?0 -
I've been fond of comparing the Euro elections with the Papal Visit of 2010.antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
Now, how did gays behave during the Papal Visit? Threats of violence, jailings and disruption to religious events.
Compared to the homosexuals' behaviour, UKIP are very mild indeed and more sinned against than sinning.0 -
" UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration."Richard_Nabavi said:
Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.
Of course that in turn leads to an obvious objection: why are UKIP pretending to be a party which wants to take us out of the EU if their real agenda has nothing to do with whether we are in the EU or not?
As embarrassing a deliberate misunderstanding as those who say that because 28m Romanians or Bulgarians didnt arrive on JAn 1st UKIP were wrong somehow.
No one from UKIP is saying that they want an increase in non EU immigration. They merely point out that it is ridiculous to discriminate between someone on the grounds of where outside the UK they were born rather than what they have to offer.
It may be the case that no non EU citizens make the cut, or that only non EU citizens do.. more likely a mixture.. but you know that full well. Dont play the lefty "Im confused" schtick, it is for students, or people who havent grown up0 -
Antifrank: I share your views about Ukip and their two- faced approach to immigration. But really there are very real threats to gays here in this country from parties in power - see how gay councillors in Tower Hamlets are shouted down with homophobic abuse. See how Livingstone allied himself with people who thought gays should be killed. Farage should not be condoning those who say that it is ok to hate gay people but the biggest and nastiest threat to liberal values does not really come from the Godfrey Blooms of this world. They want to turn the clock back to the 1950's, which is bad enough. But there are plenty who want to go very much further and who are willing to use violence to get their way.antifrank said:
You are defending a party that is likely to top the polls tomorrow and whose leader defends the right of its candidates to be anti-gay. Instead of invoking threats from 5000 miles away, I will prefer to concentrate on the bigotry that is being openly expressed here and now by silly old fools that you are condoning.SeanT said:
Are there teams of 70 something vaguely Tory Englishmen trying to push walls onto gay people because of some deeply held ideology?
No.
Is there a country, a culture, a billion strong civilisation which believes gays should be executed that way?
Yes.
And we import 100,000s of people from that latter culture, even as pathetic fools like you bleat about the former.
You are a coward.
The problem with parties like Ukip is that they give a veneer of respectability to xenophobia and demonising of immigrants and a whole load of nastier ideas, even if they don't mean to. But even if Ukip vanished tomorrow the threats to gays and women and Jews and liberal values would still be here.
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Isn't it very reasonable to dislike both rather than choose between them?
Just as it is possible to dislike both the BNP and Respect?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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One for you, Dr. Sox:
UpikNews @UpikNews 14h
#WhyImVotingUkip I was appalled at the number of immigrants in my local A&E. One of them bandaged my arm and another took me for an x-rayfoxinsoxuk said:Dear MikeK.
What limits would UKIP apply to migration in terms of numbers? How would this affect family re-unification, students and asylum seekers?
I take it as read that EU and Non-EU would not be a consideration and neither would race or religion.MikeK said:
This daft conversation between to Tories is hard to beat for its inanities and total bollocks.Richard_Nabavi said:
Of course, I agree entirely. Indeed I made exactly this point a few days ago. The entire EU immigration angle and the vilification of Romanians is a smokescreen.SeanT said:
FFS, because UKIP know that if they came out with one of their real beliefs - stop most immigration from Muslim countries - they would be instantly crucified as racist and they would die like the BNP.
Political correctness has ensured that some things are politically unsayable, even if entirely justifiable. Therefore UKIP are obliged to dress up their Stop Immigration credo in the guise of Controlling our EU Borders.
UKIP voters of course understand this perfectly.
The only people who don't, or who pretend they don't, are those who post on here pushing the risible argument that UKIP wants to reduce EU immigration in order to increase non-EU immigration.
Of course that in turn leads to an obvious objection: why are UKIP pretending to be a party which wants to take us out of the EU if their real agenda has nothing to do with whether we are in the EU or not?0 -
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
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Irrelevant. Young people are the ones who commit violent crime. And there are far more young Muslims than young Ukippers.antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Are there? Pretty much all Muslims think that homosexuality is wrong. And a very significant proportion want sharia law which goes way beyond anything proposed by Ukip. And we can see how they actually behave where they have power e.g. Tower Hamlets. If you were a Muslim who was gay, who would you be likely to fear most if you came out?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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That's pretty good going. In two posts you've managed homophobia, ageism and Islamophobia. It's a shame you couldn't get sexism in there. Perhaps you can manage that in your next post.Ninoinoz said:
Irrelevant. Young people are the ones who commit violent crime. And there are far more young Muslims than young Ukippers.antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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For balance's sake does anyone have any statistics on the relative incidence of sexual abuse amongst homosexuals in general, heterosexuals in general and priests in the Catholic church ?
I mean I have my suspicions on this subject - perhaps my prejudices are incorrect ?0 -
Only a few miles away from my brother in law who is in Melton Mowbray - lovely area, if time allows en-route back to London, stop off at Stamford just off the A1. A bit like Bath with great pubs down by the river.isam said:
Bottesford!TwistedFireStopper said:
Bottesford, or maybe Botcheston?isam said:Here is a thing not to be proud of..
Tomorrow I am going to a place called Botteston, which I believe is in Leicestershire
I think that still means I have only been North of Essex less than ten times in my 39 years0 -
[UpikNews @UpikNews 14h
#WhyImVotingUkip I was appalled at the number of immigrants in my local A&E. One of them bandaged my arm and another took me for an x-ray]
It's a good one Avery.
ah gawd - it's after midnight - will I be allowed this one-
Has anyone, anywhere, gone oh no, I've got an Asian Doctor?0 -
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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MikeK said:
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
Battle of the tin-foil hats !antifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Antifrank is one of the UK's (if not the top) Solicitor when it comes to all things pensions.MikeK said:
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
Antifrank(ing) is a pension term
Anti franking legislation requires that statutory indexation of an individual's [Guaranteed Minimum Pension (GMP)] is paid in addition to any amount by which the scheme benefits exceed the GMP, and is not deemed to be covered or "franked" by other scheme benefits.
The requirements are covered in Chapter III of Part IV PSA93 and if brought into force Part II of Schedule 5 of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Act 2000.
https://www.pensions-pmi.org.uk/news-and-publications/pensions-terminology/?p=6
Edit: For full disclosure, I'm not an Eagle, the symbol so beloved of the Third Reich.0 -
I have had patients refuse to see various Asian doctors in my department over the years, despite never having been seen by them in the past.
Patients are often anxious and afraid, and this sometimes manifests as aggression.JBriskin said:[UpikNews @UpikNews 14h
#WhyImVotingUkip I was appalled at the number of immigrants in my local A&E. One of them bandaged my arm and another took me for an x-ray]
It's a good one Avery.
ah gawd - it's after midnight - will I be allowed this one-
Has anyone, anywhere, gone oh no, I've got an Asian Doctor?0 -
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Huzzah for David Cameron
The British government scuppered Madrid’s bid to host the 2020 Olympic Games in retaliation at Spain’s hard line stance over Gibraltar, a senior Liberal Democrat claimed.
Sir Graham Watson, the MEP for South West England and Gibraltar, described how David Cameron threatened his Spanish counterpart with derailing the Madrid bid last summer amid escalating diplomatic tensions over controls imposed by Spain at its border with the British Overseas Territory.
“I am told Mr Cameron actually said to the Spanish Prime Minister, ‘if you carry on with these border queues we will make sure you don’t get the Olympic Games,’” Sir Graham said during a debate televised debate in Gibraltar ahead of the EU elections.
“And I believe that is what happened,” he added.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10848248/Madrid-lost-Olympics-bid-because-of-row-over-Gibraltar.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
Staying rational, will you accept that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality, and that Nigel Farage has gone out of his way not to condemn those?isam said:
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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I think I am meeting work related peeps, going for dinner in the village of Bottesford then getting the train home.. rather worringly, quite excited to go to a new place!SimonStClare said:
Only a few miles away from my brother in law who is in Melton Mowbray - lovely area, if time allows en-route back to London, stop off at Stamford just off the A1. A bit like Bath with great pubs down by the river.isam said:
Bottesford!TwistedFireStopper said:
Bottesford, or maybe Botcheston?isam said:Here is a thing not to be proud of..
Tomorrow I am going to a place called Botteston, which I believe is in Leicestershire
I think that still means I have only been North of Essex less than ten times in my 39 years
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Thanks for replying Fox.
I probably shouldn't say this but my vetoer isn't here.
My Gf finds black faces comforting. I tend to find Asian faces comforting. I don't think there's a lot we can do about that. I'm sure in this PC world we can either be the most racist or most unracist people on the planet. There's nothing we can do about it unfortunately...0 -
I see you don't like it when sarcasm and taking the piss, is dished to your side, do you, Vulture?TheScreamingEagles said:
Antifrank is one of the UK's (if not the top) Solicitor when it comes to all things pensions.MikeK said:
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
Antifrank(ing) is a pension term
Anti franking legislation requires that statutory indexation of an individual's [Guaranteed Minimum Pension (GMP)] is paid in addition to any amount by which the scheme benefits exceed the GMP, and is not deemed to be covered or "franked" by other scheme benefits.
The requirements are covered in Chapter III of Part IV PSA93 and if brought into force Part II of Schedule 5 of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Act 2000.
https://www.pensions-pmi.org.uk/news-and-publications/pensions-terminology/?p=6
Edit: For full disclosure, I'm not an Eagle, the symbol so beloved of the Third Reich.
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Has he really gone out of his way not to condemn them? To me he has acted like most normal, middle of the road people would and said that these views are a bit old fashioned etc but try to take into consideration the upbringing of those who said these things.antifrank said:
Staying rational, will you accept that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality, and that Nigel Farage has gone out of his way not to condemn those?isam said:
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The gay weather thing was so ridiculous he even parodied it
In the sprirt of common ground I am typing this while listening to my current fav song "Jet Boy" by NY Dolls
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Fox making sense as usual. Perhaps one day we'll get him back to Labour...foxinsoxuk said:Isn't it very reasonable to dislike both rather than choose between them?
Just as it is possible to dislike both the BNP and Respect?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
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Considering you called me a twat a few weeks ago, when I made a joke at the expense of Nigel Farage (pbuh) perhaps you're the one who should check his sarcasm and humour sensors.MikeK said:
I see you don't like it when sarcasm is dished to your side, do you, Vulture?TheScreamingEagles said:
Antifrank is one of the UK's (if not the top) Solicitor when it comes to all things pensions.MikeK said:
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
Antifrank(ing) is a pension term
Anti franking legislation requires that statutory indexation of an individual's [Guaranteed Minimum Pension (GMP)] is paid in addition to any amount by which the scheme benefits exceed the GMP, and is not deemed to be covered or "franked" by other scheme benefits.
The requirements are covered in Chapter III of Part IV PSA93 and if brought into force Part II of Schedule 5 of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Act 2000.
https://www.pensions-pmi.org.uk/news-and-publications/pensions-terminology/?p=6
Edit: For full disclosure, I'm not an Eagle, the symbol so beloved of the Third Reich.
I guess I should't be surprised that you don't like it up you.0 -
Those uncertain of how to vote tomorrow and who are thinking of voting UKIP could do worse than consult this Huff Post flow chart:
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I cannot remember calling you a twat, but since you are, I'll let it stand in the record.TheScreamingEagles said:
Considering you called me a twat a few weeks ago, when I made a joke at the expense of Nigel Farage (pbuh) perhaps you're the one who should check his sarcasm and humour sensors.MikeK said:
I see you don't like it when sarcasm is dished to your side, do you, Vulture?TheScreamingEagles said:
Antifrank is one of the UK's (if not the top) Solicitor when it comes to all things pensions.MikeK said:
We may have a clue in the avatar name he is using; antifrank. What does the name mean?AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The best possible answer is that he is against Franks. In the early middle ages - during the Crusades - Frank was the generic term for White Christian used by the whole muslim world, wether they came from France or not.
So could antifrank be a muslim? Not so baffling after all, AJS.
Antifrank(ing) is a pension term
Anti franking legislation requires that statutory indexation of an individual's [Guaranteed Minimum Pension (GMP)] is paid in addition to any amount by which the scheme benefits exceed the GMP, and is not deemed to be covered or "franked" by other scheme benefits.
The requirements are covered in Chapter III of Part IV PSA93 and if brought into force Part II of Schedule 5 of the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Act 2000.
https://www.pensions-pmi.org.uk/news-and-publications/pensions-terminology/?p=6
Edit: For full disclosure, I'm not an Eagle, the symbol so beloved of the Third Reich.
I guess I should't be surprised that you don't like it up you.
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SeanF Murdoch is more fond of Farage than Cameron and has had him to dinner0
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I'll take that as an acknowledgement that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality.isam said:
Has he really gone out of his way not to condemn them? To me he has acted like most normal, middle of the road people would and said that these views are a bit old fashioned etc but try to take into consideration the upbringing of those who said these things.antifrank said:
Staying rational, will you accept that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality, and that Nigel Farage has gone out of his way not to condemn those?isam said:
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The gay weather thing was so ridiculous he even parodied it
In the sprirt of common ground I am typing this while listening to my current fav song "Jet Boy" by NY Dolls
Sadly, I haven't had the quantities of anal sex that SeanT ascribes to me, but I do need to go to bed. In a spirit of common ground, if UKIP win tomorrow, I promise not to bring any floods of vengeance.0 -
There may be time to visit the Polish Community, derived from Veterans of the Polish Army and Airforce, who settled in the area from 1946.
http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/meltonmowbray/chronologyofthepolishcommunity.html
An excellent example of a hard working integrated community, proud of their cultural heritage and contributing their own strand to North East Leicestershire.
I wonder whether they will be voting UKIP.
Have a good day, but bring a brolly. Its going to be wet.isam said:
I think I am meeting work related peeps, going for dinner in the village of Bottesford then getting the train home.. rather worringly, quite excited to go to a new place!SimonStClare said:
Only a few miles away from my brother in law who is in Melton Mowbray - lovely area, if time allows en-route back to London, stop off at Stamford just off the A1. A bit like Bath with great pubs down by the river.isam said:
Bottesford!TwistedFireStopper said:
Bottesford, or maybe Botcheston?isam said:Here is a thing not to be proud of..
Tomorrow I am going to a place called Botteston, which I believe is in Leicestershire
I think that still means I have only been North of Essex less than ten times in my 39 years0 -
Long day coming up - good night all.0
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None of us can probably compare to Sean T when it comes to sexual experience though !antifrank said:
I'll take that as an acknowledgement that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality.isam said:
Has he really gone out of his way not to condemn them? To me he has acted like most normal, middle of the road people would and said that these views are a bit old fashioned etc but try to take into consideration the upbringing of those who said these things.antifrank said:
Staying rational, will you accept that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality, and that Nigel Farage has gone out of his way not to condemn those?isam said:
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The gay weather thing was so ridiculous he even parodied it
In the sprirt of common ground I am typing this while listening to my current fav song "Jet Boy" by NY Dolls
Sadly, I haven't had the quantities of anal sex that SeanT ascribes to me, but I do need to go to bed. In a spirit of common ground, if UKIP win tomorrow, I promise not to bring any floods of vengeance.0 -
Hi MedhiAveryLP said:Those uncertain of how to vote tomorrow and who are thinking of voting UKIP could do worse than consult this Huff Post flow chart:
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The message is quite simple.
Vote Ukip,Get Tory.0 -
You're probably asking the wrong question.Pulpstar said:For balance's sake does anyone have any statistics on the relative incidence of sexual abuse amongst homosexuals in general, heterosexuals in general and priests in the Catholic church ?
I mean I have my suspicions on this subject - perhaps my prejudices are incorrect ?
75% of abuse takes place within families. Hardly surprising, as that's where the kids are.
This would result in low proportions of abusers amongst homosexuals - and Catholic priests. They are already low proportions of the population anyway.
Now, consider institutions. One abuser can end up abusing an awful lot of children unless discovered and stopped. Note also a lot of institutions are sex-segregated, thus exposing children to same-sex attacks only.
But I can give one solid, verified fact. 80.9% of the victims of clerical child abuse in the USA were boys.( John Jay Report)0 -
Its raining outside, Ill take it you had your fingers crossed! Goodnightantifrank said:
I'll take that as an acknowledgement that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality.isam said:
Has he really gone out of his way not to condemn them? To me he has acted like most normal, middle of the road people would and said that these views are a bit old fashioned etc but try to take into consideration the upbringing of those who said these things.antifrank said:
Staying rational, will you accept that an unacceptably high number of UKIP candidates have felt obliged to make comments about homosexuality, and that Nigel Farage has gone out of his way not to condemn those?isam said:
That sort of misrepresentaion is just ridiculous. I know you are trying to win an argument, and no one on here ever admits defeat, but try to stay rationalantifrank said:
Shooting me would put rather a crimp on my day.isam said:
Even if a UKIP govt repealed the law on gay Marriage, which they wouldnt, how would they make the lives of gay men a misery?antifrank said:
Relative numbers. There are far more silly old UKIP-voting fools determined to make the lives of gay men a misery than fundamentalist Muslims. Simple as.AndyJS said:I just can't understand why antifrank is more exercised by UKIP than fundamentalist Muslims living in the UK. Totally baffling.
The gay weather thing was so ridiculous he even parodied it
In the sprirt of common ground I am typing this while listening to my current fav song "Jet Boy" by NY Dolls
Sadly, I haven't had the quantities of anal sex that SeanT ascribes to me, but I do need to go to bed. In a spirit of common ground, if UKIP win tomorrow, I promise not to bring any floods of vengeance.0 -
It's even much simpler than that. Vote UKIP, get UKIP. Night all.volcanopete said:The message is quite simple.
Vote Ukip,Get Tory.0 -
The Roman Catholic church remains quite sex segregated I guess.Ninoinoz said:
You're probably asking the wrong question.Pulpstar said:For balance's sake does anyone have any statistics on the relative incidence of sexual abuse amongst homosexuals in general, heterosexuals in general and priests in the Catholic church ?
I mean I have my suspicions on this subject - perhaps my prejudices are incorrect ?
75% of abuse takes place within families. Hardly surprising, as that's where the kids are.
This would result in low proportions of abusers amongst homosexuals - and Catholic priests. They are already low proportions of the population anyway.
Now, consider institutions. One abuser can end up abusing an awful lot of children unless discovered and stopped. Note also a lot of institutions are sex-segregated, thus exposing children to same-sex attacks only.
But I can give one solid, verified fact. 80.9% of the victims of clerical child abuse in the USA were boys.( John Jay Report)0 -
Aaaargggh, we can literally choose between Nepali or Spanish film fans!!! Damn you Cosmopolitan Conspirators.0
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Okay - I'll choose Jack Lemmon and Julie Andrews - you've got me for at least another half hour. I'm not happy.0
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Schools, boarding schools, kids' homes and juvenile offenders' institutions.corporeal said:
The Roman Catholic church remains quite sex segregated I guess.Ninoinoz said:
You're probably asking the wrong question.Pulpstar said:For balance's sake does anyone have any statistics on the relative incidence of sexual abuse amongst homosexuals in general, heterosexuals in general and priests in the Catholic church ?
I mean I have my suspicions on this subject - perhaps my prejudices are incorrect ?
75% of abuse takes place within families. Hardly surprising, as that's where the kids are.
This would result in low proportions of abusers amongst homosexuals - and Catholic priests. They are already low proportions of the population anyway.
Now, consider institutions. One abuser can end up abusing an awful lot of children unless discovered and stopped. Note also a lot of institutions are sex-segregated, thus exposing children to same-sex attacks only.
But I can give one solid, verified fact. 80.9% of the victims of clerical child abuse in the USA were boys.( John Jay Report)
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Cripes, UKIP didn't respond to 38 Degrees.
Well colour me pink.,0 -
Conservatives off to thousandville on Betfair.
2 horse race now.0 -
Do you think you'll make a profit Pulpstar? I could only bet on Ukip at the stage.0
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Aaargh 1.4 - I can't even fun bet.0
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And Lewis evens! That's harsh.0
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Reminder of the BBC's national projected shares from last year:
Lab 29%
Con 25%
UKIP 23%
LD 14%
Others 9%
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUXfmS6n7uc&0 -
There have been lots of predictions that the Lib Dems will lose all their seats, but these seem to be hysterical and wishful-thinking than realistic. It reminds me of 1994, when people were forecasting sweeping gains for the Lib Dems but they ended up with only 2 seats (albeit 2 more than they had ever had before) which was much more realistic and reasonable.
I expect the Lib Dems will get about 3 or 4 as a minimum, and I think it's much more likely that the Greens will be squeezed into 5th place by the Lib Dems holding firm on 13% than vice-versa.0 -
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27508752
I thought I was looking at a composite of E and D Miliband.0 -
Does anyone know if this outfit will be first on the London ballot for the Euro elections?
https://picasaweb.google.com/100870979254017684002/UKEPPLeaflet?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPS6hvvM3uKIsgE&feat=directlink#60160297649865611220 -
That's one way to keep the Bulgars out.AveryLP said:
This headline says it all
UKIP candidate Peter Lello arrested for 'sex assault' on homeless Bulgarian man
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I can't begin to imagine how the LDs might contrive to lose their final seat in the SE. They'd just have to do astonishingly badly in places they've been fairly strong in for decades like Eastleigh, Winchester, Newbury, Oxford West, Woking, Portsmouth. It won't happen IMO. In fact they should hold seats in London, NW and possibly SW as well.0
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Vote Silly - get Mili..volcanopete said:The message is quite simple.
Vote Ukip,Get Tory.0 -
Yes they will be:old_labour said:Does anyone know if this outfit will be first on the London ballot for the Euro elections?
https://picasaweb.google.com/100870979254017684002/UKEPPLeaflet?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPS6hvvM3uKIsgE&feat=directlink#6016029764986561122
http://londoneuroelections.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/StatementPersonsNominatedFinal.pdf0 -
Anyone know how to get into bet fair from an iPad whilst in the US of A ?0
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Thank you.AndyJS said:
Yes they will be:old_labour said:Does anyone know if this outfit will be first on the London ballot for the Euro elections?
https://picasaweb.google.com/100870979254017684002/UKEPPLeaflet?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPS6hvvM3uKIsgE&feat=directlink#6016029764986561122
http://londoneuroelections.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/StatementPersonsNominatedFinal.pdf0 -
Wondering who to vote for in the European Elections? Why not ask Google!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wondering-who-vote-european-elections-3583515#ixzz32Q57iuMQ0 -
Lib dems might hold seats but they ain't getting 13% lol0
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And following up on "the google test" the top three for:
David Cameron: "a prick", "evil" "a liar"
Ed Miliband: "useless", "weird" "a joke"
Nick Clegg: "a liar" "sad" "an idiot"
Nîgel Farage: "a prick, "right" "a moron"
Alex Salmond is "a moron", "deluded", "racist"0 -
Pissing it down here in deepest Labour Derbyshire.0
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Rain map:Pulpstar said:Pissing it down here in deepest Labour Derbyshire.
http://www.raintoday.co.uk
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Beautiful sunshine here in Essex. And I'm still undecided about who to go and vote for!I suppose that as a committed no-borders European it’s goth to be the LibDems, although Richard Howitt, top of the Labour list, appears to be an excellent "on the ground” MEP.0
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Re Lib Dems Euro vote share.looking back at Euro vote shares and comparing with ICM April polls polls since 1989 the Lib Dems have always polled less than prevailing national opinion polls.The average deficit is 5.4%.Thus taking the latest ICM which is 13% would produce a 7.6 share.Anything above this is better than average.!0
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The cretins should be locked up and never ever allowed to vote again. Pathetic halfwits.RobD said:
Although it is easy to understand why the electoral commission don't want people photographing their ballotscompouter2 said:
Heard the arse end of something on the radio saying they will fine people for doing so. It has apparently become a new fad.kle4 said:
No. Says right on them you don't need to take it with you 'but it is helpful if you can'.isam said:
I cant find my ballot card.. does this matter????
On a similar 'not in the rules business'. If anyone takes selfies can they do so in the voting booth tomorrow? Wasn't there a story earlier about how the Electoral Commission have asked staff to stop people doing it, but it is not actually against the law (so long as you don't accidentally show which way you voted)? Someone should try it.
Can imagine some of the newbies going in there, getting their phone out and then asking the person in the next cubical "What do I do now?".0 -
Bet it is a mile away from the actual resultMonikerDiCanio said:
But not all that small.marke09 said:ELECTOR @britainelects 6m
YouGov's final poll for Scotland #EP2014: LAB - 28% SNP - 26% CON - 15% UKIP - 13% GRN - 11% LDEM - 6% (NOTE: small sample of 533)
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The pronunciation of the name" Farage" .In the UK we hear the name pronounced as Fa-rarge (as in large).A rather grand sounding pronunciation!
In Europe" Farage "is pronounced Fa -rage (as in" forage").
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YouGov EURO:
The 2010 splits are interesting - as are the regional splits (usual caveats);But will be interesting to see how close these are to actual.
2010:
Cons: Cons49; LAB:3; LD:2; UKIP:39; Green:3
LAB: Cons:4; LAB:65; LD:2; UKIP:15; Green:8
LDem: Cons:8: LAB:18; LD:31; UKIP:18; Green:19
Regions:
London: Cons: 23; LAB: 27; LD:13; UKIP:20; Green: 12
R of South: Cons: 26; LAB:19; LD:10; UKIP:33; Green:9
Mids/Wales: Cons:22; LAB:26; LD:6; UKIP:30; Green:9; PC:3
NORTH: Cons: 18; LAB:33; LD:7; UKIP:27; Green:10
Scotland: Cons: 15; LAB:28; LD:6; UKIP:13; Green:11; SNP:260 -
If you use Firefox, you could try adding the 'modify headers' extension, and spoofing a UK IP address.TGOHF said:Anyone know how to get into bet fair from an iPad whilst in the US of A ?
This sometimes lets me pretend to be a USA resident to watch US TV shows, but more often not. It depends how strict Betfair want to be.
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The Scotland figure is encouraging. UKIP would win a seat, and I'd collect from Ladbrokes.Financier said:YouGov EURO:
The 2010 splits are interesting - as are the regional splits (usual caveats);But will be interesting to see how close these are to actual.
2010:
Cons: Cons49; LAB:3; LD:2; UKIP:39; Green:3
LAB: Cons:4; LAB:65; LD:2; UKIP:15; Green:8
LDem: Cons:8: LAB:18; LD:31; UKIP:18; Green:19
Regions:
London: Cons: 23; LAB: 27; LD:13; UKIP:20; Green: 12
R of South: Cons: 26; LAB:19; LD:10; UKIP:33; Green:9
Mids/Wales: Cons:22; LAB:26; LD:6; UKIP:30; Green:9; PC:3
NORTH: Cons: 18; LAB:33; LD:7; UKIP:27; Green:10
Scotland: Cons: 15; LAB:28; LD:6; UKIP:13; Green:11; SNP:260 -
Suarez out of World Cup rumours but I stand by them for the World Cup.The price on Uruguay should go well out with this news.
It's a blow to Uruguay indeed.0 -
Opinium's Scottish sub-sample is SNP 37% Lab 24% everbody else 7% or under - enough for SNP 4/Lab 2 seats??MonikerDiCanio said:
But not all that small.marke09 said:ELECTOR @britainelects 6m
YouGov's final poll for Scotland #EP2014: LAB - 28% SNP - 26% CON - 15% UKIP - 13% GRN - 11% LDEM - 6% (NOTE: small sample of 533)0
